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Peggi - I don't know if luvox can cause bedwetting because my son has never

been on it. I do, however, believe that SSRIs can cause bedwetting in some

children. My son had that problem and he is on celexa. I addressed this

concern to the group several months ago and several members also noted the

problem in their children - all on different SSRIs. I think the consensus

was that if the child went to the bathroom prior to going to bed, the

problem disappeared. I tried this and my son seldom wets the bed now.

another question

> gee whiz ... I have another question ... you guys are going to get sick of

> me and kick me off this list!

>

> Can luvox cause bedwetting. The pediatrician never heard of that reaction

but

> said that doesn't mean it isn't from the luvox. His bet was that the luvox

> made him sleep too soundly and therefore didn't wake up to go. He is

checking

> on it for me and told me to cut his dose in half until he gets back to me

> later this week. ( He was just checking in with me to make sure everything

is

> OK because he has a child of his own in the hospital and is taking the

rest

> of the week off)

>

> Thank you so much for all your help. I hope I get used to this soon so I

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YES ROBIN WE POST HERE, BUT USUALLY THE BEGINNING OF THE WEEK IS VERY SLOW. I HAVE NOT HAD ANY SOLUTIONS OR IDEAS ABOUT ANYTHING YOU HAVE ASKED SO I HAVE NOT POSTED ANYTHING.

SORRY....BUT THINGS WILL PICK UP...BELIEVE ME THEY WILL

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Does anyone ever post here? I have received next to no mail. I am new to the diet and am interested in hearing from other people about their experiences with the diet.

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Thanks Debbie, for responding. I appreciate that you took the time to write back even if you don't have any helpful hints to my questions.

Robin

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-----Original Message-----From: debbie [mailto:debmcb@...]Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 11:00 AMegroupsSubject: Re: Another question

YES ROBIN WE POST HERE, BUT USUALLY THE BEGINNING OF THE WEEK IS VERY SLOW. I HAVE NOT HAD ANY SOLUTIONS OR IDEAS ABOUT ANYTHING YOU HAVE ASKED SO I HAVE NOT POSTED ANYTHING.

SORRY....BUT THINGS WILL PICK UP...BELIEVE ME THEY WILL

DEBBIE

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Another question

Does anyone ever post here? I have received next to no mail. I am new to the diet and am interested in hearing from other people about their experiences with the diet.

Robin

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Every now and then I think that maybe I got disconnected from the forum as there is nothing in the email for days from ERFYT.

Maybe right now people are being cautious due to the virus that is going around. This forum is keen place for some idiot to get into thousands of emails with one shot. I have a very intense virus scanner on the computer I use here at work as I work with Government agencies all over the country. But, at home, I have a basic virus program and will not download any messages from the ERFYT on that computer.

So that may be the reason so many are not writing much. Take care

Debbie

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Another question

Does anyone ever post here? I have received next to no mail. I am new to the diet and am interested in hearing from other people about their experiences with the diet.

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Sorry I have off line for a few days Sherry

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>Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 10:43:35 -0400

>

>Does anyone ever post here? I have received next to no mail. I am new to

>the

>diet and am interested in hearing from other people about their experiences

>with the diet.

>

>Robin

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I have also had this problem with out much sucess since I was a teenager. My

dr doesnt like to give the pill very often either. I was told to eat alot of

yogurt and that would lessen the yeast infection. I have tried it but not

often enough to find out if it is any good. Hope this helps you.

Tina1

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>Subject: Another question

>Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 13:03:34 EDT

>

>Hi folks,

>

>Well I decided to jump in and ask another question.

>

>Does anyone have any treatments for vaginal yeast infections that do not

>respond to much of anything? I have allergic reactions to all the creams

>and

>other " inserted " stuff, or they just plain don't work. What is the point

>in

>using something for 7 days and then get only 7 days of relief before it

>starts again.

>I take Diflucan (the one-shot pill) every couple of weeks as it gets

>totally

>out of control and miserable. But my doctor doesn't want me to take it

>that

>often and I just about lose my mind. She has no other suggestions either.

>I am diabetic and I know that is part of the problem, but I have fought

>these

>since I was just a young adult.

>

>ANY suggestions are welcome.

>Sheena, any natural remedies that you know of??

>

>Thanks

>Jo

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In a message dated 6/18/00 4:36:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

belowskinbeauty@... writes:

<< I used to have yeast infections, until my homeopath

prescribed the correct remedy for me. The other thing

that helps is live acidophilus, taken by mouth and

calendula cream for external itching.

>>

Lee - the homeopathic remedy didn't work for me - it was something called

YeastGuard, I think, that they gave me. I take the acidophilus. Never heard

of calendula cream. That would help. I just want this problem GONE!

Thanks for the tip.

Jo

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I used to have yeast infections, until my homeopath

prescribed the correct remedy for me. The other thing

that helps is live acidophilus, taken by mouth and

calendula cream for external itching.

Lee

--- TediBrLuv@... wrote:

> Hi folks,

>

> Well I decided to jump in and ask another question.

>

>

> Does anyone have any treatments for vaginal yeast

> infections that do not

> respond to much of anything? I have allergic

> reactions to all the creams and

> other " inserted " stuff, or they just plain don't

> work. What is the point in

> using something for 7 days and then get only 7 days

> of relief before it

> starts again.

> I take Diflucan (the one-shot pill) every couple of

> weeks as it gets totally

> out of control and miserable. But my doctor doesn't

> want me to take it that

> often and I just about lose my mind. She has no

> other suggestions either.

> I am diabetic and I know that is part of the

> problem, but I have fought these

> since I was just a young adult.

>

> ANY suggestions are welcome.

> Sheena, any natural remedies that you know of??

>

> Thanks

> Jo

>

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In a message dated 6/18/00 10:09:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

aisha@... writes:

<< You get Candida when you have been on long term antibiotics or immune

suppressants. It is the first thing that flares up. So if you keep getting

it, then you might need to talk to your dr about changing

antibiotic/immunosuppressive medications. Candida can spread through your

system, through your blood etc.. many people get it in their mouths. (You

prolly knew all that LOL).

Hope that helps

xox Aisha. >>

Aisha

Ahhhh but you get it for lots of other reasons too. I am not on antbiotics

or immunosuppressants. I have battled these things for 30 years, long before

I was " sick " . Now it is my diabetes that makes them a constant problem.

The Diflucan for a vaginitis is a one pill dose here, Advertised, packaged

and sold that way. I know that for folks with immune system problems they do

take it regularly, but my docs all say not for vaginitis.

I do the acidophilus religiously 3 times a day. And the milk I drink has it

in as well.

Tried the vaginal yogurt treatment without success and was told that I could

do more harm than good by the homeopath and my GYN. Do not ask me why, but

this was one thing they both agreed on. I eat the stuff but choke and gag

every spoonful down. I hate it.

I have never heard of tea tree oil. Is that available in the states too?

thanks - I just get so frustrated.

Jo

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"Does anyone have any treatments for vaginal yeast infections that do not respond to much of anything?"

Yoghurt! It is the best thing, insert it as you would a cream, and also eat as much of it as you can.

If you cannot tolerate yoghurt to eat, get some acidophilous/bifidus powder and have that several times a day with meals. (you mix it in water and drink.)

Yoghurt also mixed with a few drops of tea tree oil and inserted also works really well. But only a few drops like about 3-4 of the tea tree oil.

Diflucan should be taken every day for 30 days as a proper treatment. There is also a product called cantessen. It comes in cream and tablet form, and there is one other called Nilstat powder. You've probably tried all these though.

You get Candida when you have been on long term antibiotics or immune suppressants. It is the first thing that flares up. So if you keep getting it, then you might need to talk to your dr about changing antibiotic/immunosuppressive medications. Candida can spread through your system, through your blood etc.. many people get it in their mouths. (You prolly knew all that LOL).

Hope that helps

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"calendula cream for external itching."

I was going to say calendula also. You can also get it orally in homeopathic doses from a good homeopath. I tried it but it floored me. But I'm like that with naturals, however calendula is an AMAZING plant, and helps just about everything!

xox A

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Homeopathic calendula is often used for cancer but has to be prescribed by a good homeopathic physician. Each homeopathic remedy is prescribed individually, based on the total state of the person.

Lee

Aisha Elderwyn <aisha@...> wrote:

"calendula cream for external itching."

I was going to say calendula also. You can also get it orally in homeopathic doses from a good homeopath. I tried it but it floored me. But I'm like that with naturals, however calendula is an AMAZING plant, and helps just about everything!

xox A

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"Homeopathic calendula is often used for cancer but has to be prescribed by a good homeopathic physician. Each homeopathic remedy is prescribed individually, based on the total state of the person."

Agreed Lee, Sheena and I talked about this before. All herbal/homeopathic's are drugs, same as any drug, and should only be taken as prescribed by an expert, and they should monitor you also. I have been sicker on naturals from practitioners of natural products then anything else. However others I know have had wondrous results. All depends on the person.

xox A.

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I really worry when someone is taking a bunch of things that are labelled "natural" and don't know about interactions. They also can be quite careless about dosages. Just because something doesn't require a prescription doesn't mean you don't have to use caution.

Lee

Aisha Elderwyn <aisha@...> wrote:

"Homeopathic calendula is often used for cancer but has to be prescribed by a good homeopathic physician. Each homeopathic remedy is prescribed individually, based on the total state of the person."

Agreed Lee, Sheena and I talked about this before. All herbal/homeopathic's are drugs, same as any drug, and should only be taken as prescribed by an expert, and they should monitor you also. I have been sicker on naturals from practitioners of natural products then anything else. However others I know have had wondrous results. All depends on the person.

xox A.

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Yogurt is not sterile, so it is not a good idea to insert it usually. Tea Tree Oil is available in most US health food stores.Lee

TediBrLuv@... wrote:

Tried the vaginal yogurt treatment without success and was told that I could do more harm than good by the homeopath and my GYN. Do not ask me why, but this was one thing they both agreed on. I eat the stuff but choke and gag every spoonful down. I hate it. I have never heard of tea tree oil. Is that available in the states too?thanks - I just get so frustrated.Jo------------------------------------------------------------------------Free, Unlimited Calls Anywhere!Conference in the whole family on the same call.Let the fights begin! Visit Firetalk.com - Click below.1/5476/5/_/817445/_/961383493/------------------------------------------------------------------------The Being Sick CommunityChat RoomDaily Chat at # on IRC DALnethttp://www.elderwyn.com/members/chat.htmlMemorial Pagehttp://www.elderwyn.com/members/inlovingmemory.htmlMembers Lounge-FREE counselling via email-Daily Horoscopes-FREE psychic/tarot readings via email-Daily cartoons-Members Profiles, locations and birthdays-Medical Resources, and more....http://www.elderwyn.com/members To subscribe or unsubscribesubscribe/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~“Hold on to what is good, even if it's a handful of earth. Hold on to what you believe, even if it's a tree that stands by itself. Hold on to what you must do even, if it's a long way from here. Hold on to your life, even if it's easier to let go." - Pueblo Prayer

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"I eat the stuff but choke and gag every spoonful down. I hate it. "

Hey Jo,

Have you tried drinking yoghurt instead of normal yoghurt? Gwydi isn't mad on tub yoghurt so gets drinking yoghurt and finds that easier to take.

Hey Lee,

"I really worry when someone is taking a bunch of things that are labelled "natural" and don't know about interactions. They also can be quite careless about dosages. Just because something doesn't require a prescription doesn't mean you don't have to use caution."

That was my exact point....

Love A.

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In a message dated 6/18/00 10:51:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

belowskinbeauty@... writes:

<<

Homeopathic calendula is often used for cancer but has to be prescribed by

a good homeopathic physician. Each homeopathic remedy is prescribed

individually, based on the total state of the person.

>>

Aha - so it isn't something you can buy in the health food store? I can't

afford to pay for medical care outside of my HMO any more. And clearly they

don't have homeopaths on staff.

Dang

Jo

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In a message dated 6/19/00 4:16:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

aisha@... writes:

<<

Have you tried drinking yoghurt instead of normal yoghurt? Gwydi isn't mad

on tub yoghurt so gets drinking yoghurt and finds that easier to take.

>>

Hmmm

Never heard of it. Will have to check the natural store.

Jo

[Guest guest]

Hi --

Just adding my vote to Kathy's about CBT. After successfully doing CBT on

her counting OCD, and being fairly OCD free for a month, I also noticed

contamination fears creeping in. wouldn't sit on a bench in a

cafeteria because it was sticky, wouldn't fold her Dad's socks after they

came from the laundry because it was icky, was examining the silverware

before she would eat with it.

With her knowledge of ERP and how to use it, I finally pointed out to her

what she was doing, and explained how worrying about contamination was going

to limit her life even more than the counting had. She understood stopping

it at this point would be way easier than waiting until it became a habit.

She was able to stop it immediately, within a few days, by using ERP-- eating

off a dish that didn't totally get clean from the dishwasher, sitting in

public places even though it was filthy, etc.

Can't stress enough how well ERP works.

Ellen/NY

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HI :

Concern about germs and contamination obsessions in general are some of the

most prevalent OCD symptoms. The best way to deal with contamination

obsessions I have found is to get a skilled CBT therapist to work with your

child on exposure and response prevention to the potential triggers.

Good luck, aloha, Kathy (H)

kathyh@...

At 06:21 AM 09/19/2000 -0000, you wrote:

>I am sorry that I have so many questions and nothing positive to

>contribute yet. But you all have no idea how helpful this list has

>been. I read all of the emails and try to learn from them and

>hopefully one of these days I can have some positive experiences to

>share here.

>

>My latest question is that my husband and I both see what the next

>obsession is going to be. GERMS. He is all of a sudden getting a

>little concerned about germs. The term has come up more than once

>recently. This concerns me because this one could be taken to

>extremes even more so than the others. Any thoughts on how to " nip

>this in the bud " so to speak? Or is that impossible?

>

>Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

>

>Sincerely~

>

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,

Never apologize for asking questions - that is reassurance seeking! hahaha

- just teasing you - ask away, that's what we're here for!

When I see a new 'ocd thing' coming up - I flood them with exposure and

humour! In your case of germs, I would tell germs jokes, leave newpaper

articles around on how Americans only wash their hands X amount of times

after using the toilet and Canadians wash X amount of times (out of todays

newpaper!!), I would on purpose drop something on the floor, pick it up and

eat it! I would hug my dogs, and then touch something, like food, without

washing in between!

Just so you know, I wouldnt usually do these things!

My point is to show the kids that nothing happens if you dont wash, are

exposed to germs, or are in contact with 'dirty' things. There are germs

everywhere and we survive. I hate leaving the kitchen table dirty - but if

its to expose the contaminators in this house, I will do it, and they will

eat off the table to prove that they are stronger than this OC monster! We

do a lot of externalizing here: " its not you, its the ocd telling you what

to do " . I challenge them with expressions like: " Am I pushing your worry

button? " and if they answer yes - I ask what they are going to do about it!!

I hope this helps.... wendy, in canada

===============================================

>I am sorry that I have so many questions and nothing positive to

>contribute yet. But you all have no idea how helpful this list has

>been. I read all of the emails and try to learn from them and

>hopefully one of these days I can have some positive experiences to

>share here.

>>My latest question is that my husband and I both see what the next

>obsession is going to be. GERMS. He is all of a sudden getting a

>little concerned about germs. The term has come up more than once

>recently. This concerns me because this one could be taken to

>extremes even more so than the others. Any thoughts on how to " nip

>this in the bud " so to speak? Or is that impossible?

>>Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

>>Sincerely~>

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Hi Stacey, I am a devoted " nipper in the bud " especially when I notice my

child (6) suddenly, repeatedly doing something that falls into one of OCD's

classic categories such as germs and washing. I figure that this is where

her early diagnosis, and my having learned about the disorder, pays off in

that I recognize early on when she may be straying into OCD waters. I

haven't been wrong very often and she's been very successful in bossing back

new compulsions. The ones that got entrenched in the months following her

onset before we started E & RP are still with us (though less intense) and are

at the top of her heirarchy.

For example, this morning Kel had " sleepy seeds " stuck in her eyelashes.

She was very intent on removing these and spent quite awhile pulling at her

lashes. Most people would want to remove the crusts, I realize, and this

was the first time she's noticed or cared about something like this. It's

also picture day at school, very normal not to want your photo taken with

junk in your eyelashes.

I didn't say anything but I'm going to keep an eye on this because I know

hair-pulling is in the OCD spectrum, a common comorbidity, also because she

did a little hairpulling early on when she started on Prozac. It came and

went then, but it seems possible to me that this urge is still rolling

around in her brain somewhere.

I am also more afraid of contamination obsessions and compulsions than some

of the others because they can be so very limiting to the sufferer. I tend

to jump on these right away. Your instincts are good IMO and you certainly

don't have to wait for your son's germ worries to become huge to begin to

address them.

Kathy R. in Indiana

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From: " Busch " <stacybusch@...>

> My latest question is that my husband and I both see what the next

> obsession is going to be. GERMS. He is all of a sudden getting a

> little concerned about germs. The term has come up more than once

> recently. This concerns me because this one could be taken to

> extremes even more so than the others. Any thoughts on how to " nip

> this in the bud " so to speak? Or is that impossible?

>

> Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

[Guest guest]

Ellen~

It is great to hear that by identifying things in the beginning stages you can stop them before they become to big of an issue. But what is ERP? I am somewhat familiar with what CBT is but I have no idea what ERP is.

Thanks again~

elan214@... wrote:

Hi --Just adding my vote to Kathy's about CBT. After successfully doing CBT on her counting OCD, and being fairly OCD free for a month, I also noticed contamination fears creeping in. wouldn't sit on a bench in a cafeteria because it was sticky, wouldn't fold her Dad's socks after they came from the laundry because it was icky, was examining the silverware before she would eat with it. With her knowledge of ERP and how to use it, I finally pointed out to her what she was doing, and explained how worrying about contamination was going to limit her life even more than the counting had. She understood stopping it at this point would be way easier than waiting until it became a habit. She was able to stop it immediately, within a few days, by using ERP-- eating off a dish that didn't totally get clean from the dishwasher, sitting in public places even though it was filthy, etc.Can't stress enough how well ERP works. Ellen/NYYou may subscribe to the OCD-L by emailing listserv@... . In the body of your message write: subscribe OCD-L your name. You may subscribe to the Parents of Adults with OCD List at parentsofadultswithOCD . You may access the files, links, and archives for our list at . Our list advisors are Tamar Chansky, Ph.D., and Aureen Pinto Wagner, Ph.D. Our list moderators are Birkhan, Kathy Hammes, Jule Monnens, Gail Pesses, Roman, and Jackie Stout. Subscription issues, problems, or suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at harkins@... .

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~

Thanks, I tried your idea about making a joke about germs and I tried playing little "germ games" (who can touch the most things with germs on them, etc..). At first he had a horrified look on his face and although the horrified look is gone he still isn't to sure. I don't think he sees this as a joking matter. But I will keep trying.

"W. Birkhan" <wb4@...> wrote:

, Never apologize for asking questions - that is reassurance seeking! hahaha - just teasing you - ask away, that's what we're here for! When I see a new 'ocd thing' coming up - I flood them with exposure and humour! In your case of germs, I would tell germs jokes, leave newpaper articles around on how Americans only wash their hands X amount of times after using the toilet and Canadians wash X amount of times (out of todays newpaper!!), I would on purpose drop something on the floor, pick it up and eat it! I would hug my dogs, and then touch something, like food, without washing in between!Just so you know, I wouldnt usually do these things! My point is to show the kids that nothing happens if you dont wash, are exposed to germs, or are in contact with 'dirty' things. There are germs everywhere and we survive. I hate leaving the kitchen table dirty - but if its to expose the contaminators in this house, I will do it, and they will eat off the table to prove that they are stronger than this OC monster! We do a lot of externalizing here: "its not you, its the ocd telling you what to do". I challenge them with expressions like: " Am I pushing your worry button?" and if they answer yes - I ask what they are going to do about it!! I hope this helps.... wendy, in canada===============================================>I am sorry that I have so many questions and nothing positive to>contribute yet. But you all have no idea how helpful this list has>been. I read all of the emails and try to learn from them and>hopefully one of these days I can have some positive experiences to>share here.>>My latest question is that my husband and I both see what the next>obsession is going to be. GERMS. He is all of a sudden getting a>little concerned about germs. The term has come up more than once>recently. This concerns me because this one could be taken to>extremes even more so than the others. Any thoughts on how to "nip>this in the bud" so to speak? Or is that impossible?>>Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.>>Sincerely~>_________________________________________________________________________Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.You may subscribe to the OCD-L by emailing listserv@... . In the body of your message write: subscribe OCD-L your name. You may subscribe to the Parents of Adults with OCD List at parentsofadultswithOCD . You may access the files, links, and archives for our list at . Our list advisors are Tamar Chansky, Ph.D., and Aureen Pinto Wagner, Ph.D. Our list moderators are Birkhan, Kathy Hammes, Jule Monnens, Gail Pesses, Roman, and Jackie Stout. Subscription issues, problems, or suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at harkins@... .

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Kathy~

I do think my biggest concern is how limiting a germ worry can be. There are germs everywhere and I just don't want him to be so worried that he stops doing everything and ends up constantly washing.

The school he goes to is a school that has both normal (whatever that means) kids and kids with disabilities. Two weeks ago when he started he was worried about "catching" the disabilities from the other kids. I think we got over that, but this may be a result of that as well. I don't know.

Thanks again~

Kathy <klr@...> wrote:

Hi Stacey, I am a devoted "nipper in the bud" especially when I notice mychild (6) suddenly, repeatedly doing something that falls into one of OCD'sclassic categories such as germs and washing. I figure that this is whereher early diagnosis, and my having learned about the disorder, pays off inthat I recognize early on when she may be straying into OCD waters. Ihaven't been wrong very often and she's been very successful in bossing backnew compulsions. The ones that got entrenched in the months following heronset before we started E & RP are still with us (though less intense) and areat the top of her heirarchy.For example, this morning Kel had "sleepy seeds" stuck in her eyelashes.She was very intent on removing these and spent quite awhile pulling at herlashes. Most people would want to remove the crusts, I realize, and thiswas the first time she's noticed or cared about something like this. It'salso picture day at school, very normal not to want your photo taken withjunk in your eyelashes.I didn't say anything but I'm going to keep an eye on this because I knowhair-pulling is in the OCD spectrum, a common comorbidity, also because shedid a little hairpulling early on when she started on Prozac. It came andwent then, but it seems possible to me that this urge is still rollingaround in her brain somewhere.I am also more afraid of contamination obsessions and compulsions than someof the others because they can be so very limiting to the sufferer. I tendto jump on these right away. Your instincts are good IMO and you certainlydon't have to wait for your son's germ worries to become huge to begin toaddress them.Kathy R. in Indiana----- Original Message -----From: " Busch" <stacybusch@...>> My latest question is that my husband and I both see what the next> obsession is going to be. GERMS. He is all of a sudden getting a> little concerned about germs. The term has come up more than once> recently. This concerns me because this one could be taken to> extremes even more so than the others. Any thoughts on how to "nip> this in the bud" so to speak? Or is that impossible?>> Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.You may subscribe to the OCD-L by emailing listserv@... . In the body of your message write: subscribe OCD-L your name. You may subscribe to the Parents of Adults with OCD List at parentsofadultswithOCD . You may access the files, links, and archives for our list at . Our list advisors are Tamar Chansky, Ph.D., and Aureen Pinto Wagner, Ph.D. Our list moderators are Birkhan, Kathy Hammes, Jule Monnens, Gail Pesses, Roman, and Jackie Stout. Subscription issues, problems, or suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at harkins@... .