Guest guest Posted September 19, 2000 Report Share Posted September 19, 2000 Peggy, I have osteoporosis as well. I'm not sure if I'll end up with revision surgery since they don't talk about it much in Canada. But if it comes to that, I'm also worried about how my osteoporosis will impact on the surgery. Anyone else have any comments? Diane Popiuk & Peggy Greene wrote: > > > I woke up in the middle of the night with a thought racing through my head. I also have osteoporosis so I'm not sure I could have surgery. My bone may be too thin. Does anyone else suffer from osteoporosis? > > Peggy Greene > JPG Unlimited > Antiques & Collectibles > jpgreene@... > > Jesus laid down His life for us, so that He could give His life to us, so that He could live His life through us! > > Simplify your life with Tupperware! Check out my site at http://my.tupperware.com/pgreene. When you place your order, please use my Consultant number 00577000619. Thanks! > > Join AllAdvantage.com and get paid to surf the Web! Please use my ID (HGD-969) when asked if someone referred you. Thanks! > http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=HGD-969 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2000 Report Share Posted September 19, 2000 ----- Original Message ----- From: Busch The school he goes to is a school that has both normal (whatever that means) kids and kids with disabilities. Two weeks ago when he started he was worried about "catching" the disabilities from the other kids. I think we got over that, but this may be a result of that as well. I don't know. Not too long ago on this list there was a discussion of our children having problems with "different" people, everything from hippies to drug addicts to the mentally retarded (my own daughter worries about those with foreign accents.) You might want to search the archives for this thread for some insight into this type of obsession/compulsion. Kathy R. in Indiana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2000 Report Share Posted September 19, 2000 Thank you Kathy. I will research that. Kathy <klr@...> wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: Busch The school he goes to is a school that has both normal (whatever that means) kids and kids with disabilities. Two weeks ago when he started he was worried about "catching" the disabilities from the other kids. I think we got over that, but this may be a result of that as well. I don't know. Not too long ago on this list there was a discussion of our children having problems with "different" people, everything from hippies to drug addicts to the mentally retarded (my own daughter worries about those with foreign accents.) You might want to search the archives for this thread for some insight into this type of obsession/compulsion. Kathy R. in IndianaYou may subscribe to the OCD-L by emailing listserv@... . In the body of your message write: subscribe OCD-L your name. You may subscribe to the Parents of Adults with OCD List at parentsofadultswithOCD . You may access the files, links, and archives for our list at . Our list advisors are Tamar Chansky, Ph.D., and Aureen Pinto Wagner, Ph.D. Our list moderators are Birkhan, Kathy Hammes, Jule Monnens, Gail Pesses, Roman, and Jackie Stout. Subscription issues, problems, or suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at harkins@... . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2000 Report Share Posted September 19, 2000 Hi: I would also like to encourage all of you to consider going beyond what " typically " people would do during exposures. Dr. Foa's treatment manual discusses this and it really helped Steve for me to read this part to him. Before then he would refuse to do an exposure which was a bit over the top as he felt someone without OCD would not do things that way. The kinds of things he did include: cleaning the toilet without gloves, licking his shoes (yes the soles!), not washing his hands after using the toilet, eating of plates with utensils used by someone else, and the list goes on. This has helped him tremendously with his contamination OCD which is a very stubborn variety in our experience. ALoha, Kathy (H) kathyh@... At 04:58 AM 09/19/2000 -0400, you wrote: >Hi -- > >Just adding my vote to Kathy's about CBT. After successfully doing CBT on >her counting OCD, and being fairly OCD free for a month, I also noticed >contamination fears creeping in. wouldn't sit on a bench in a >cafeteria because it was sticky, wouldn't fold her Dad's socks after they >came from the laundry because it was icky, was examining the silverware >before she would eat with it. > >With her knowledge of ERP and how to use it, I finally pointed out to her >what she was doing, and explained how worrying about contamination was going >to limit her life even more than the counting had. She understood stopping >it at this point would be way easier than waiting until it became a habit. >She was able to stop it immediately, within a few days, by using ERP-- eating >off a dish that didn't totally get clean from the dishwasher, sitting in >public places even though it was filthy, etc. > >Can't stress enough how well ERP works. > >Ellen/NY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2000 Report Share Posted September 19, 2000 HI : An untreated germ worry can be very limiting. THe trick is to get some exposure and response prevention (E & RP) therapy, a very specific form of cognitive behavior therapy (CBT) which involves facing their fears/ocd triggers and agreeing not to perform their usual rituals/responses to reduce anxiety. By facing their fears they can overcome them. It needs to be done in a graduated fashion and it works like magic. My son, Steve, now 13, was dxed at 10, and has had many contamination fears. MR kids are a big part of this. He could not eat in the cafeteria at school as he had to sit at the bench where the MR kids had sat at an earlier sitting of the meal. So he charmed his way into eating in the sick room which was adjacent to the cafeteria. You can imagine how chagrined the school was that my son was reporting to the sick room and they had not even called me. Such is the skill of OCDers at covering up their rituals and symptoms. Now he does self initiated E & RP and walks by the MR kids classroom during recess and tell me about it. ALso I am thinking of getting him to volunteer with MR adults. This summer we were at a party with some of his relatives in Minnesota. One has a job taking care of MR adults at a care home. So she brought two of them to the family reunion. I socialized with them extensively, particularly within Steve's view and made a point of going up to him and hugging him and asking him not to wash. What was amazing was how many of the other relatives were asking me who those people were and why they were there and what was wrong with them. They also were very reluctant to have anything to do with them. And to think the OCD is from my side of the family!! Steve thinks he will get brain damage and die sometimes when he is around people who are MR or have mental disabilities. Go figure how this works rationally for a kid with three DSM-IV diagnoses <VBG> SO I just kid him and tell him he is already dead and talking to me through the 900# psychic hotline. He also has ocd around hippies and people living an alternative lifestyle, which is practically everyone where we live!! When you don't take their fears seriously, although you treat them very respectfully, this helps them to recognize them as unusual and OCD. THen when they know the techniques of E & RP they can boss back these fears. I also joke with Steve that he is a master in coping with people with brain problems as he lives with us and seems to have survived that! Keeping it light really helps. Hang in there, things will get a lot better, take care, aloha, Kathy (H) kathyh@... At 10:29 AM 09/19/2000 -0700, you wrote: > > Kathy~ > > I do think my biggest concern is how limiting a germ worry can be. There are > germs everywhere and I just don't want him to be so worried that he stops > doing everything and ends up constantly washing. > > The school he goes to is a school that has both normal (whatever that means) > kids and kids with disabilities. Two weeks ago when he started he was > worried about " catching " the disabilities from the other kids. I think we > got over that, but this may be a result of that as well. I don't know. > > Thanks again~ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2000 Report Share Posted September 21, 2000 I have osteoporosis and take Fosamax (and lots of calcium). I had a major revision surgery in January and appear to be fusing adequately. > > Peggy, > > I have osteoporosis as well. I'm not sure if I'll end up with revision > surgery since they don't talk about it much in Canada. But if it comes > to that, I'm also worried about how my osteoporosis will impact on the > surgery. > > Anyone else have any comments? > > Diane Popiuk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2001 Report Share Posted February 7, 2001 , yes, carrots are high-glycemic. You may find this site useful: http://www.nutrinews.com/public/recipesfood/referencedatabases/glycemi cindex/index.cfm Andy > Are there any foods that are commonly mistaken for not too bad that you > would definately avoid? I was just told for example that carrots are high > glycemic or something to that effect and I eat them all the time especially > at night! I was just wondering if there are any I should definately leave > for my free day that most would consider healthy that I might not know. > Also does caffine free beverages such as pop, tea, coffee interfere with > bfl? Should I treat them as regular and add a cup of water or can they > maybe not count but not really matter either way? Thanks for your time > > ______________________________________________________________________ ___ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2001 Report Share Posted February 7, 2001 I wouldn't avoid carrots nor overdo it. They have lots of fiber and are a good source of betacarotene. If you are preparing a bunch of raw veggies to eat just include lots of others as well such as celery, cucumbers, cauliflower, broccoli, snow peas, radishes, zucchini, etc. Just my opinion. I really doubt it will impact your results. I would put this into the small details that make up 80% of what doesn't matter compared with the 20% of things that really do matter. In the 20% I would include the six balanced meals off the authorized food list, the six days of training using the high point techniques, practicing good form and safety, the crossing the abyss process, lots of water, planning, tracking progress and staying inspired through as many means as possible. Most of the rest is nuances that may or may not make a difference and certainly won't make up for not doing the 20%. Focus on the basics. If you have time and money to burn after mastering the basics and you aren't 100% delighted with the results, then look at other high yield strategies or other tweaks. Many have made tremendous progress with carrots, bread, bagels, regular pasta, and yes potatoes too. If you have a medical issue that requires you to avoid them then do so. listen to your body. If you have hunger pangs and hour or so after a spud and not after an apple then it may be that you are getting too big a spike of insulin. If you are very low energy an hour or so after a meal your spike may have been too high, see if a lower Glycemic index carb makes a difference. Don't necessarily blindly follow these rules. The key is small balanced meal with portion control six times a day. People have been successful with 5 and with 7 with suitable adjustments on portions. 4 is more difficult and less efficient. Eating lots of veggies is good as it helps with fiber and the feeling of fullness. Just some thoughts from my view of the world. Kit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2001 Report Share Posted February 23, 2001 In a message dated 2/23/01 1:06:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, smilinggail@... writes: << Well, actually a few more! LOL What are the components of the words " most appropriate placement " ? How do I make home the most appropriate placement, or do I make all their other choices not appropriate? I found out that the district will provide services if I homeschool Seth, but he would have to go to school to get them! DUH!!!!!!! What's wrong with this picture? LOL Do you think I could use " least restrictive environment " to make home the best place because he wouldn't have to be taken out of class to have all his needs met? I have a meeting with Seth's advocate tomorrow, but I don't think she will have the answers to these questions. >> Gail, You have to demonstrate to them why their choices are NOT appropriate. When we had Maddie's IEP, they kept yapping up down left and right about how they could place her appropriately and that there were plenty of kids like Maddie currently attending their schools. (OH BOY, did this comment get me hot, since the one yelling the most had NEVER EVEN MET MADDIE---DID I TELL YOU GUYS THIS BEFORE??????????????? LOLOL) They wanted to know WHAT Melmark had to offer Maddie that they couldn't provide. THAT'S the piece we had defend. Also Gail, something that might help is a letter from Seth's developmental ped. We had letters from our ped and from Dr. Capone, backing up our reasoning for approved private school. Good luck girlfriend!!!! We're cyberly with you!!!! Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2001 Report Share Posted February 23, 2001 I think " most appropiat placement " is to put the child where they belong in public schooling. They should have all the modifications that they need in the placement that their in. You should start right when the child is diagnosed with a disibility, etc. to start placing them in a school, etc. All the school systems, etc. will mostly cover the costs, of when you intervian a child into an apooropiate placement at any age. I'll going to have to look and see if I have any captionsist notes about appropiate placement, if I'll do then I'll send them. ===== Friends Till The End __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2001 Report Share Posted February 23, 2001 In a message dated 2/23/01 2:15:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, duffey48@... writes: << What are the components of the words " most appropriate placement " ? How do I make home the most appropriate placement, >> Gail, I personally think the most appropriate placement is the place that you think is most appropriate for your child. That is how I have always approached that question. Lauri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2001 Report Share Posted February 23, 2001 I had to do something similar but then i got prescritions from his special needs peds for the things he needs ST and OT and they had a letter that showed where he was now etc, with it and then through a company which we got our SCL and Respite services we got in home services, and they were way longer and more productive than what they get from AEA, and you get copies form each visit to keep in your homeschooling record too. We continue to go through the hospital rehab program during the summer, they dont have summer school really here, he does qualify and will get a few weeks extra this year but AEA closes during the summer and he continues to need great work in his speech and FMS. shawna. another question > > Well, actually a few more! LOL > What are the components of the words " most appropriate placement " ? How do I > make home the most appropriate placement, or do I make all their other > choices not appropriate? I found out that the district will provide services > if I homeschool Seth, but he would have to go to school to get them! > DUH!!!!!!! What's wrong with this picture? LOL Do you think I could use > " least restrictive environment " to make home the best place because he > wouldn't have to be taken out of class to have all his needs met? I have a > meeting with Seth's advocate tomorrow, but I don't think she will have the > answers to these questions. LOL > Gail-another year older today, but alas, no wiser! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2001 Report Share Posted February 23, 2001 In a message dated 2/23/01 11:29:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, Strider3@... writes: << I'll going to have to look and see if I have any captionsist notes about appropiate placement, if I'll do then I'll send them. >> Thanks Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2001 Report Share Posted February 23, 2001 In a message dated 2/23/01 11:29:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, Strider3@... writes: << I'll going to have to look and see if I have any captionsist notes about appropiate placement, if I'll do then I'll send them. >> Thanks Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2001 Report Share Posted February 23, 2001 In a message dated 2/23/01 2:10:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, duffey48@... writes: << Also Gail, something that might help is a letter from Seth's developmental ped. We had letters from our ped and from Dr. Capone, backing up our reasoning for approved private school. Good luck girlfriend!!!! We're cyberly with you!!!! Donna >> Donna, Seth doesn't have a developmental pediatrician. He only goes to his regular ped. for yearly checkups and ear infections. I was shocked to find out that he was supposed to be tested for his thyroid! Never had that done. Other than the heart surgeries, his medical exposure has been very limited to say the least. Eye doctors once, hearing test once and neck x-ray once. That's really about it. LOL Do you think his doc is too lax? LOL Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2001 Report Share Posted February 23, 2001 In a message dated 2/23/01 4:30:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, timothytlstein@... writes: << Gail, I personally think the most appropriate placement is the place that you think is most appropriate for your child. That is how I have always approached that question. Lauri >> Hope you're right Lauri! LOL That would make home the most appropriate! LOL Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2001 Report Share Posted February 24, 2001 Gail...I am sure his pediatrician is not too lax...nick has a dev. ped mainly because of his eating issues and because we knew his behaviors were not just a result of the ds and we wanted to get a formal dagnosis for school reasons. our reg. ped has been very good. it might be a bonus that seth has not had to have lots of medical visits...it be so unnerving to kids, don't you think? cheri Re: another question In a message dated 2/23/01 2:10:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, duffey48@... writes: << Also Gail, something that might help is a letter from Seth's developmental ped. We had letters from our ped and from Dr. Capone, backing up our reasoning for approved private school. Good luck girlfriend!!!! We're cyberly with you!!!! Donna >> Donna, Seth doesn't have a developmental pediatrician. He only goes to his regular ped. for yearly checkups and ear infections. I was shocked to find out that he was supposed to be tested for his thyroid! Never had that done. Other than the heart surgeries, his medical exposure has been very limited to say the least. Eye doctors once, hearing test once and neck x-ray once. That's really about it. LOL Do you think his doc is too lax? LOL Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2001 Report Share Posted February 26, 2001 This was a video about IDEA and testing, and other stuff that we saw on Feb. 6 2001. Placeamn and related services: When a decision is made to put a child in special education one of two things can happen. The child can be physically moved to another location where they receive related services. But most likely they will stay in the classroom and services will be brought to them. ThE law provided that children be provided these services as much aE possible. So Congress strengthened the requirement for look at special education not as a place but as a set of services that should be able to follow a student wherever they are. Related services are far reaching and can be individual speech, language and audiology; physical psychological or occupational therapy, support of learning and recreational opportunities; parent counseling and training; special training for the regular education teacher; sensitivity training for the nondisabled students who are in a class where a child with a disability wil' be included. Those are examples of possible related services that are not specifically named in the law but provided if the student needs it. Inclusion: Under the 1997 IDEA, the concept of inclusion plays a more important part than it did in 1975. It means to include the student in the main stream curriculum. It is believed that it is less obstructive in the educational experience. It has been found when special education services are brought in the classroom nondisabled students' benefit as well. The priority of the law is that services be delivered as much as possible in the classroom, so that persons with disabilities can interact with others. The district has to offer a full continuum of placement options: Regular class with support; resource room; self contained class; private schools for children with special needs;lresidential placement and home or hospital instruction. You don't want the classification to drive the placement, the IEP needs to drive that. In keeping with the parent education partnership, the IEP should address not only the school agenda but how the school will provide for how long. And parents and teachers and guidance counselors should be involved in that process. That needs to be set out in the IEP exactly what resources the school is committing to this student and who is responsible to make sure those services are provided. The individualized programs is developed at meeting with the parent and student when appropriate. The law requires a student's progress to be regularly reevaluated by mixture of the team and provide accordingly. For some this is once a year and others every three years. Once they are receiving these services an IEP cannot be changed without a member of the family. And that indicates that a reevaluation should be done to see how a student's progress has changed. The child is getting older arid what kind of services are now necessary. What skills should they be gaining at this point? Transitions: Transitioning is a word that means change and preparing students for it. They can include moving from general to special education; preschool to kindergarten through grade 12 and high school and to post secondary school. At age 14 the component that they have in their IEP focuses on the courses they should be taking as they get older. Independent living skills, recreation, other opportunities that will help the student be ready when they leave school and go on to adult life. If a student plans to go to college involves the guidance counselor in the planning. Find out about the requirements and provide modifications for testing. Visit different campuses and ask about students with special needs. ____________- --- smilinggail@... wrote: > In a message dated 2/23/01 11:29:37 AM Eastern > Standard Time, > Strider3@... writes: > > << I'll going to have to look and see if I have any > captionsist notes about appropiate placement, if > I'll > do then I'll send them. > > >> > > Thanks > Gail > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2001 Report Share Posted February 26, 2001 In a message dated 2/26/01 6:10:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, Strider3@... writes: << This was a video about IDEA and testing, and other stuff that we saw on Feb. 6 2001. >> Wow ! Thanks for all the info. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 In a message dated 2/23/01 9:11:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, smilinggail@... writes: << Donna, Seth doesn't have a developmental pediatrician. He only goes to his regular ped. for yearly checkups and ear infections. I was shocked to find out that he was supposed to be tested for his thyroid! Never had that done. Other than the heart surgeries, his medical exposure has been very limited to say the least. Eye doctors once, hearing test once and neck x-ray once. That's really about it. LOL Do you think his doc is too lax? LOL >> Gail, Did you ever go to Len's site and print out the DS Preventive Medical Guidelines? Give them to your doc and then that way, he'll have something to follow. My ped had only had one other child with DS in his practice who was older, but I liked my ped, so I kept him. Still, you could write the letter for the doc and have him sign it. Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 In a message dated 2/27/01 2:43:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, duffey48@... writes: << Gail, Did you ever go to Len's site and print out the DS Preventive Medical Guidelines? Give them to your doc and then that way, he'll have something to follow. My ped had only had one other child with DS in his practice who was older, but I liked my ped, so I kept him. Still, you could write the letter for the doc and have him sign it. Donna >> I did that Donna, and will take them when he goes for his yearly checkup next week. I don't think the doc is going to take it too well. This is the only group of peds. that we have in our city. Well, actually, they do about 3 cities here. No other peds. for miles, and miles, and miles! LOL Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2001 Report Share Posted March 19, 2001 Hi Cheryl The database I used came up with this information: 1 raw ck liver(1oz); 40 calories, 1g fat, 1g carb, 6g protein. ~~ Does anyone know if it is ok to eat chicken livers and what the nutritionalvalues are? I'd love to throw some in a pan with a little Pam!! Not sureof the value and if it is worth it!Cheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2001 Report Share Posted March 19, 2001 YEA!! Then it was okay that I ate it!! I made chicken livers with new potatoes - I fried them up in a pan using Garlic Pam and then sprinkled a little Cajun seasoning on them. They were delicious - looks like I did ok. What database did you use? I couldn't find anything anywhere! THANKS!! Cheryl 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2001 Report Share Posted March 19, 2001 That sounds yummy I dont have chicken livers in the freezer, but I have beef liver...I might consider beef liver and onions, sauteed in Pam....yum! LOLI used the link Kit gave here awhile back..... www.kitchenlink.com Blessings, ~~ YEA!! Then it was okay that I ate it!! I made chicken livers with new potatoes - I fried them up in a pan using Garlic Pam and then sprinkled a little Cajun seasoning on them. They were delicious - looks like I did ok. What database did you use? I couldn't find anything anywhere! THANKS!! Cheryl 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2001 Report Share Posted March 19, 2001 Oh Boy! I love liver... calves liver, chicken liver... yum yum! Next time I go to the store I know what I'm gonna buy. I wonder how I will disguise it so that my 14 year old son will eat it... if I could only make it look like a steak or a pizza! Kathy > Hi Cheryl The database I used came up with this information: > 1 raw ck liver(1oz); 40 calories, 1g fat, 1g carb, 6g protein. > ~~ > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ > > Does anyone know if it is ok to eat chicken livers and what the nutritional > values are? I'd love to throw some in a pan with a little Pam!! Not sure > of the value and if it is worth it! > > Cheryl > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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