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Hi ,

I have the same problem my daugher is 11 though and she is somewhat active since its been really hot here lately not as much, she likes to sneak eat at night I find things in her room all the time like soda cans, popcorn bags etc. I wouldnt suggest putting a child on a diet, just eliminate the junk in the house so she has healthy things to eat.. my biggest problem is that we eat fast food about 4 times a week for dinner and that has got to stop. I did great for about 2+ weeks then it went downhill. So to answer your question I personally wouldnt put a child on a diet. School starts for my kids this coming Friday so I am just going to watch what she eats and make dinners at home instead of fast food and eliminate sodas in the house if its not there she cant eat or drink it..

Oh and about the exercise just have her take walks with you, my daughter is constantly asking me to walk around the neighborhood with her, I'm afraid of dogs though and never want to incase they are loose.. (excuses I know) I also bought her the tae bo kicks dvd its a kids dvd for tae bo and she loves it...

and <bronco2_mom@...> wrote:

I have another question...my 8 year old daughter is also overweight.... so I put an 8 year old on a diet....should I have her do what I will be doing....example if I do weight watchers, or , etc....

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Thanks ...I know she would probably like going to ww

meetings(if that is the plan I choose) I had done ww years ago and

did good at it then I couldnt afford to go anymore and the support

group really kept me on track my daughter went to few meetings with

me...she enjoyed the people clapping for others and the stars you

get etc...so it might be a good idea...I know keeping sweets out of

the house will help too.

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question...my 8 year old daughter is also overweight....honestly I

think she knows she is on the chubby side...but I have never really

came out and said your overweight. Once and while she will say I am

fat mom and I will will say we both just need to get into shape....I

know she would go for the walks with me either walking or riding her

bike of course I dont know how long she could go..but I am starting

out small anyway so it should be okay....she is really active she

rides her bike and swims alot and is always playing with friends..I

am sure its her diet....how so I put an 8 year old on a

diet....should I have her

> do what I will be doing....example if I do weight watchers, or

, etc....obesity does run on my hubbys' side of the

family...my side not sure I was adopted.....any ideas would be

great....thanks for listening...

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Thanks ....I know I need to get the junk food out of the

house...and I am bad about the fast food too...I know its no excuse

but its some much easier then cooking after a long day at

work....acutally my daughter likes more healthy foods than I do but

she also likes ice cream...cookies etc....Wow school starts early

for you...but I think it will help once she is back in school...but

I need to make sure she has healthy snacks after school she always

semms so starved....thanks for you input...

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8 year old on a diet....should I have her do what I will be

doing....example if I do weight watchers, or , etc....

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----- Original Message -----

From: " and " <bronco2_mom@...>

> I am sure its her diet....how so I put an 8 year old on a diet....should I

have her do what I will be doing

What kind of food do you keep in the house? If she wants a snack what is

available? I wouldn't put her on a diet. I'd just clear out any junk food

in the house so anything she reaches for is healthy. I have 5 and 8 year

old daughters. We very rarely have cookies, chips, sugar soda, etc. in the

house. They snack on Goldfish, pretzels and fruit.

Ann

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We dont always have the healthist stuff in the house...we will go a

while with fruits and veggies and then here comes the ice

cream....and koolaid...not so much chips and cookies..I do make

cookies or brownies once and while but I make a small batch so it

gets eaten fast with the four of us in the house....but I do need to

keep the ice cream etc out...my daughter likes the goldfish I will

have to try that...we do try fruit snacks but they do get tired of

those.

In 100-plus , " maryannanderic " <maryannanderic@e...>

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> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " and " <bronco2_mom@y...>

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> > I am sure its her diet....how so I put an 8 year old on a

diet....should I

> have her do what I will be doing

>

> What kind of food do you keep in the house? If she wants a snack

what is

> available? I wouldn't put her on a diet. I'd just clear out any

junk food

> in the house so anything she reaches for is healthy. I have 5 and

8 year

> old daughters. We very rarely have cookies, chips, sugar soda,

etc. in the

> house. They snack on Goldfish, pretzels and fruit.

>

> Ann

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As you all know I have a 10 yr old. She is a big girl. She went sat for her 11 yr check up. She is 95 lbs. BUT the dr says her body is normal proportions. So she says mom I want to be smaller. So she is starting to make better choices. More fruits and 100 cal snacks. Portions are key for any child.

NH... Mom to Abby Liz 10/94 Anne 7/99

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It is hard to have a child so WW. They dont have points set up for children unless they are over 10 and they have to be with a dr note. I would just encourage exercise, portions, and water. Walk together. Keep a snack boxes with acceptable snacks. Our box has sugar free pudding, 100 cal packs, keebler 100 cal packs, raisins, applesauce, and then of course fruit.

NH... Mom to Abby Liz 10/94 Anne 7/99

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get rid of junk food and replace with carrot stix dip etcall healthy

thing..(no debbie cakets etc except 1 choice say afyter dinner and even

that can be healthy with some planning say...angel food cake with

berries and cool whip or.. popcicles or frozen yogurt on a stix. For

every junk food out there there is a healthy one. Practice making

better choices. she will be sad later on if you don't!

lm

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8 year olds do not need to be on diets! She and you need to play

detectives and find the healthy stuff They teach this t her in

school but the do not enfoirce anything. They just tell them what is

better...like cut up apples with a dip etc

lm

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From: <cinderellaoooo@...>

> berries and cool whip or.. popcicles

FWIW we don't have dessert everyday. It's a special occasion thing.

The Popsicle brand sugar free popsicles are great. My kids don't notice a

difference and they are very low calorie. My kids have artificial

sweeteners in small amounts but not on a regular basis. My kids aren't

overweight. I feel so sorry for fat kids and I worry that my kids will take

after me.

I don't regulate how much my kids eat but I do have some rules. One is fill

up your tummy at dinner because that's it for the day. They were barely

eating anything for dinner and then wanting a snack later so we made the

rule. We eat about 6 and bedtime is 7:30 for Vonn and 8:30 for Lynn so they

don't need more food after dinner. They have a snack after school but I

have to make sure it's not too big or they won't eat dinner.

If a kid is really hungry then they'll eat what you offer. If they aren't

really hungry they'll turn down the fruit or healthy choice because they

really just want the taste of junk. Luckily my kids like fruit and raw

veggies.

Ann

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We recently had this same discussion on a different list that I am on. The final recommendations were to enlist the child's help to help mom - help mom plan a healthy menu (better choices), help mom learn by taking notes in a notebook at weight watchers, help mom prep snacks.

The focus is not on the child, but on her helping mom. She will learn as a result. That is the bonus.

My 10 year old son attends weight watchers meetings with me and sits in the back row and plays (actually he lays on the floor and takes his bioncles apart over and over) but he will repeat things back to me later that he heard. They hear and watch and learn.

HTH

Becky and <bronco2_mom@...> wrote:

I have another question...my 8 year old daughter is also overweight....honestly I think she knows she is on the chubby side...but I have never really came out and said your overweight. Once and while she will say I am fat mom and I will will say we both just need to get into shape....I know she would go for the walks with me either walking or riding her bike of course I dont know how long she could go..but I am starting out small anyway so it should be okay....she is really active she rides her bike and swims alot and is always playing with friends..I am sure its her diet....how so I put an 8 year old on a diet....should I have her do what I will be doing....example if I do weight watchers, or , etc....obesity does run on my hubbys' side of the family...my side not sure I was adopted.....any ideas would be great....thanks for listening...

[Guest guest]

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Ahhh! You do not say how overweight your daughter is. But I was

heavy at that age (and every age) and I wish I was only as

overweight as I was at eight. You say she is physically active.

Great! Encourage that and encourage healthy eating but, in my

opinion, do not put her on a restrictive diet. My parents tried

that on me over and over again and it always backfired. Teach

healthy choices. Aim for not gaining weight and she may grow into

her weight. If she gains please don't shame her. Let her know how

hard you know it is. Show her how hard you are working and let her

know it becomes even harder with time. Rewards (grades, chores and

such) should be non food items. Keep junk out of the house. Teach

her to cook. Encourage her talents. The only thing my family

seemed to have in common was eating so every occasion and non

occasion was spent eating out or feasting in (but I was the only fat

one). Develop real family interests & enjoy yourselves. Food does

not need to be the glue that holds your family together. There's my

2 cents worth!

I wish you much luck and happiness!

Alice

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I'm sure they will become pancake shape, but I'm more concerned that they are

still viable. If they came regular mail they were probably irradiated and could

be damaged.

Anything I order, that is food grade, I specifically ask that it be sent via

FedEx or UPS.

Shari

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You'll notice after a week or so, when you look to see

how the fermentation is coming along that the strips

of scobies will have bonded together to form one scoby

fitting the size of your bowl. I wouldnt worry about

that!

After two weeks, once the fermentation is ready you

will notice another baby scoby formed under what your

received by post.

Denyse

--- chrianna2000 <christia@...> wrote:

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aloha,

me, again. really new newbie with those kinds of

questions. i bought

my scobys from an ebay seller. she sent me a sealed

packet with about

four strips of culture instead of a pancake shaped

baby. how will

these cultures produce new cultures if they're not

pancake shaped?

when one sends a baby to someone via regular mail, is

that what is

done? i thought i would get a complete culture

instead of part of one.

tia again--

best,

anna

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In message <20050813121008.22845.qmail@...> you wrote:

> After two weeks, once the fermentation is ready you

> will notice another baby scoby formed under what your

> received by post.

Excuse the correction, Denyse,

the new scoby always grows uppermost and the older culture underneath :-)

Therefore it should read,

> will notice another baby scoby formed OVER what you received by post.

Margret:-)

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I found some nice big glass jars at a place called Hobby Lobby. They sort of

look like big flower vases. They might even be flower vases, I am not really

sure. There is probally a hobby store near you in a big town

Bennethum <rosesagetwins@...> wrote:

I been thinking of giving my dad a kombucha culture but he smokes and I don't

know how that will effect the culture. and does anyone know where to get a good

jar for kombucha I have been using a small tea jar with spigot and I would like

a larger jar.

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Hi - Frequent suggestions for getting large glass jars for

free/cheap are delis, supermarkets, restaurants, yard sales, & thrift

stores. Another source to try is Freecycle, a community networking

initiative that encourages people to offer free things in their

community. Go to freecycle.org and see if there's a group in your

community. Join the list and post a " WANTED " msg for large glass

jars. All of these suggestions also apply for those who want to find

empty wine bottles, etc., for bottling.

If you prefer to purchase a new jar, Anchor Hocking makes good jars in

a range of sizes, up to 2 1/2 gallon capacity. If you do a google

search under Anchor Hocking, you should be able to purchase online.

HTH,

Nori

> does anyone know where to get a good jar for kombucha I have been

using a small tea jar with spigot and I would like a larger jar.

[Guest guest]

I found a big beautiful glass jar with glass lid (helpful for the

steeping portion of the process) that is probably based on the old

jars used in grocery or apothecary shops. I think they are Anchor-

Hocking but not sure. I started buying them (I have a passel of them)

at a kitchen store ($$$) and then saw them at a new Super Target at

half the price. They come in the gallon (perfect and manageable) and

2 gallon size (hard to lift this one when full onto a closet shelf

but otherwise wonderful). I've seen them sporadically at Wal-Mart but

I wouldn't count on finding them there. Another reason I like these

is they have a protruding lip that is easy to tie the cover over and

helps when you pour out of them. And no, I don't work for any of

these companies mentioned, I just like what I like a lot.

G

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I've been reading all the responses to your post but no one

addressed the part about smoking. Smoke will kill the scoby but if

there is a room that your dad doesn't smoke in then it will be ok.

Also, tell him not to smoke while making his brew. I smoke and have

never had a problem because I keep my fermenting jars in my cats

bedroom which I don't smoke in:o) Plus I never smoke while brewing.

By the way, the Kombucha will also help his lungs.

Judy

> I been thinking of giving my dad a kombucha culture but he smokes

and I don't know how that will effect the culture. and does anyone

know where to get a good jar for kombucha I have been using a small

tea jar with spigot and I would like a larger jar.

>

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[Guest guest]

An easy solution: make the tea in a place where there is no smoke, then cap

it. Leave 10% at least for air. Do not remove cap until the brew is done.

CMR

Re: another question

> Hi ,

> I've been reading all the responses to your post but no one

> addressed the part about smoking. Smoke will kill the scoby but if

> there is a room that your dad doesn't smoke in then it will be ok.

> Also, tell him not to smoke while making his brew. I smoke and have

> never had a problem because I keep my fermenting jars in my cats

> bedroom which I don't smoke in:o) Plus I never smoke while brewing.

>

> By the way, the Kombucha will also help his lungs.

>

> Judy

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>> I been thinking of giving my dad a kombucha culture but he smokes

> and I don't know how that will effect the culture. and does anyone

> know where to get a good jar for kombucha I have been using a small

> tea jar with spigot and I would like a larger jar.

>>

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[Guest guest]

Thanks every one for your help I was thinking I can make it for him and then

when it is ready strain it and put it in his fridge so that he can drink it That

way he doesn't have to mess with it and have it die or something else happen to

it. You all will probley get tired of my questions but I have another one it was

brought up on another list and then got me to worrying. I was wondering if I

should be drinking Kombucha and Breast Feeding my child I have been drinking

about a glass a day and it started me to worrying about the toxins that may be

leaching from my body to my babies milk I feed her.

[Guest guest]

>You all will probley get tired of my questions but I have another one it

>was brought up on another list and then got me to worrying. I was

>wondering if I should be drinking Kombucha and Breast Feeding my child I

>have been drinking about a glass a day and it started me to worrying about

>the toxins that may be leaching from my body to my babies milk I feed her.

>

, Margret has already spoken to your question but I wanted to add

that in my time on the list these last few months it seems clear that

people overthink the detox aspect and what that means. The primary thing

to remember here is that when the body detoxes, the products go through the

liver and/or kidneys and out through body waste products, sometimes also

through the skin in the form of pimples, also can be sweated out through

sauna, etc.

But the waste products are not being channeled through your milk. And the

cleaner/healthier you get, the better your milk, so there's no conflict

whatsoever. I've made the argument previously that KT has been around for

thousands of years; if there was any question that drinking it harmed human

reproductive ability, it would have been detected by the tribal healers

long ago and KT would have been stamped out.

Wishing you most well,

--

vbaker@...

[Guest guest]

good point didn't think of that . And Margret I will make sure to drink

more water I was wondering why I was feeling a bit dry and under the weather

because I wasn't getting enough fluid.

[Guest guest]

> I was wondering if I should be drinking Kombucha and Breast

> Feeding my child I have been drinking about a glass a day and it

> started me to worrying about the toxins that may be leaching from my

> body to my babies milk I feed her.

Watch your baby. If she starts to show signs of not wanting to nurse

then it means the toxins are affecting your milk. Toxins will make the

milk taste " weird. " If she's still nursing like always then everything is

okay.

Lizzie (retired La Leche League Leader)

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[Guest guest]

> But the waste products are not being channeled through your milk.

Anything that goes in the blood system (which is the main transport

system within the body) has the potential of being absorbed into the

breast milk. The breast does have a pretty good filtration system, but

some things (like some toxins) do get through.

Lizzie

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