Guest guest Posted January 8, 2000 Report Share Posted January 8, 2000 In a message dated 01/08/2000 2:15:57 PM Mountain Standard Time, sparrow@... writes: << i thought beef was ok for us " O's' " >> I think we all have to remember that nothing is OK for everyone in all circumstances at all times. That is why this list is so wonderful. Many of us have shared our experiences with the sometimes subtle feelings that are going on. This helps each one of us. I am at the point where I either print out the email or at least take notes. We all have to be responsible for being aware of our bodies. As we clean up the messes that we have been carrying around for so many years, we will become more sensitive to how we are feeling. I am much more aware of what bothers my digestion now than I was even 6 months ago. Yes, we can normally tolerate beef. But some of us are more sensitive to cholesterol maybe until we get our thyroid running well again. Those of you who are in your twenties and thirties can rejoice. You have been exposed to the truth at a much younger age that those of us who are in our mid fifties! The older ones on this list have had our ignorance do much more damage to our bodies. So think before you eat. Yep, that chocolate muffin will taste good going down, but you won;t feel good for long. Eat lean beef. Try some baked fish or roasted chicken once in a while. Eat tons of green leafy vegs. If you don;t have the ER4YT book, get it. No excuses here. If you have a weight problem, go easy on the starches and fill up on the green stuff. Try to have a HB food at every meal or snack. Drink plenty of water. When I can't seem to drink enough water, I substitute diluted herb tea from the refrigerator. I used to call it sun tea, but we have not had enough sun so I guess it is refrigerator tea. I use one or two bags in two qts of water. I even keep some by my bed at night. I go to bed cold but wake in the middle of the night hot and sweaty. Too old for " hot flashes " so must be my thyroid. Our eating program is not hard. We get lots of things to eat. And don;t forget soup. You guys are probably tires of hearing me talk about it, but it is truly a great thing for us. Use your spices. But most important of all, listen to you body. Maybe it would be a good idea to write down what you eat and also symptoms that occur. Maybe you will see a pattern that you have more energy X number of hours after you eat *. Or you have a queasy tummy X number of days when you eat too much of something else. The body has integrity and wants to be healthy. All we have to do is to remember to stay in tune with ourselves. And of course don;t forget to share what you have learned on this list! Happy New Year. Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2000 Report Share Posted January 8, 2000 In a message dated 01/08/2000 3:14:01 PM Mountain Standard Time, jverner@... writes: << Amen Pam. You have such a sweet, positive attitude. Thanks for your words of wisdom. This list is indeed a blessing. We eat so differently its nice to have eachothers support. Jeanie >> Thank you and I agree. This list is the very best and I am always pleased to see mail waiting. I learn something every day. I appreciate all of you. Thanks so much. Pam Pamacs Selkirk Rex Please check out my website at http://hometown.aol.com/sharpcats/myhomepage/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2000 Report Share Posted January 8, 2000 Aikya - I may have mentioned this before - but I have shown up borderline low thyroid and then got to the point 3 different Drs. were insisting I start on Synthroid and I refused. Kept taking Kelp and trying to bring it up myself and was very slowly. I started taking this stuff called T-100 that I got for $12.50 through LatterDay Family Resources - this place that sells homeschool, religious and herbal type stuff and my thyroid showed normal after I started taking it! There are other products like that out there too - but this one really did it for me. I still take it but haven't been consistently. (I should). But I still check out normal. They have a website at www.ldfr.com if you are interested in trying it. Jeanie > From: " aikya " <aikya@...> > > So when I went to the doctor recently, before I figured out that my body > wants to be a predominantly fish-eating Type O, blood tests revealed > cholesterol levels that were 100 points higher than the previous test. Dr. > D'Adamo says (and he is not alone) that high cholesterol is linked to low > thyroid function to which type O's are prone. I had been complaining aobut > low thyroid for a while. In my HMO, which is Kaiser, supposedly the best > one in the game, your thyroid is only considered low if your TSH test comes > back 8 or over. I have found that practitioners outside Kaiser will treat > if the TSH is over 3! Anyway my records of low waking axillary temperature > etc. didn't get me any sympathy or help for the thyroid since my TSH was at > 5. I actually had the doctor tell me that she didn't consider axillary > temperatures valid, only temp by mouth. I asked her whether chronic sinus > infection wouldn't alter that reading. She was blissfully unaware of those > issues. Anyway, I got nowhere. (She wanted me to start HRT actually which > for some reason doesn't thrill me.) So now for the cholesterol. Gotta deal > with it. The switch to fish is probably helping. And I'm on the lookout > for other good ideas. Here's an article I found which gave me some good new > information. It came from > http://www.healthyideas.com/healing/living/cholesterol.html > > ****************** > Cholesterol > > > > The Anti-Cholesterol Shopping Cart > If you're concerned about cholesterol, you probably already know the basics: > a healthy low-fat diet that goes easy on the butter, well-marbled steaks and > chocolate chip cookies. But there's more to controlling your cholesterol > than memorizing long lists of forbidden foods. If you're tired of being told > about all the things you shouldn't eat, maybe it's time to start > concentrating on a few things you should eat. > One food you should get into the habit of tossing into your shopping cart is > the humble bunch of grapes, says Elson Haas, MD, director of the Preventive > Medical Center of Marin in San , CA. " There's a compound in grape > skins and seeds that helps lower cholesterol, " he says. > > While you're in the produce section, you should also pick up a few juicy > grapefruits. A study at the University of Florida found that people who ate > a cup and a half of grapefruit sections each day lowered their cholesterol > levels by more than 7 percent in two months. Grapefruits are rich in a fiber > called pectin that binds with dietary fat and cholesterol and escorts them > out of your body before they can be absorbed into your bloodstream. > > Another way to get more pectin into your diet is to eat more carrots. In > fact, researchers have found that some people can lower their total > cholesterol 10 to 20 percent just by eating two carrots a day, says D. > Hoagland, PhD, a researcher at the U.S. Department of Agriculture Eastern > Regional Research Center in Philadelphia. > > For Lower Cholesterol, just add Milk > If your morning routine consists of a cup of coffee and a surly comment to > the paperboy, you're missing out on one of the easiest ways to control your > cholesterol. In a word: breakfast. People who skip the most important meal > of the day tend to have higher cholesterol levels than those who start off > their mornings with a bellyful. One reason may be that breakfast skippers > make up for missing the morning feast by munching on unhealthy snacks later > on, suggest L. Stanton, PhD, a professor at St. ph's University in > Philadelphia. Of course, this doesn't mean you should indulge your morning > craving for a fat-filled Egg McMuffin. The best breakfast for cholesterol > control also happens to be one of the simplest, cheapest and quickest to > prepare: a bowl of ready-to-eat cereal with skim milk. Research shows that > people who start the day with a little snap, crackle and pop have lower > cholesterol levels than those who choose other breakfasts. > > Clobber Cholesterol with a Clove > You've heard whispers that eating garlic can help keep cholesterol under > control -- but you're wary of the distinctive-smelling breath that makes > your corner pizza parlor a really bad place for a date. While eating one > clove of garlic a day is effective in reducing cholesterol, it's not the > only way to get the blood-cleansing benefit of this fragrant plant, says > Varro E. Tyler, PhD, professor of pharmacognosy at Purdue University. You > can get the same effect with garlic supplements, sold at many health food > stores. In fact, allicin -- the active ingredient in garlic -- is actually > easier for your body to absorb when taken as a supplement. Dr.Tyler suggests > looking for a supplement labeled " enteric coated. " These supplements pass > through your stomach and are digested in the small intestine, minimizing the > chance of stomach upset. > > > See Your Way to Lower Cholesterol > By exercising and eating right, you've enlisted your whole body in the fight > against cholesterol. Now get your mind in on the act with this visualization > from Barbara Dossey, RN, director of Holistic Nursing Consultants in Santa > Fe, NM: Imagine you're following a beam of light into one of your blood > vessels. As you approach the wall of the vessel, notice the dome-shaped > accumulation of sticky cholesterol that has collected over an old injury to > the vessel. Now picture yourself gently peeling off layers of fatty material > and handing them over to special cells that pass by. Like little garbage > trucks, these cells haul the cholesterol to the intestine, where it begins > its journey out of your body. > > Next, travel over to your liver, where cholesterol is manufactured. Imagine > talking to the supervisor of cholesterol production and suggesting that > production quotas should be lower, so less cholesterol is made. He agrees > and promises that your cholesterol will be maintained at a lower, healthy > level. > > Dossey recommends doing this exercise twice a day for 15 to 20 minutes at a > time. > > ***************** > > Aikya > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2000 Report Share Posted January 8, 2000 i thought beef was ok for us " O's' " Cholesterol From: " aikya " <aikya@...> So when I went to the doctor recently, before I figured out that my body wants to be a predominantly fish-eating Type O, blood tests revealed cholesterol levels that were 100 points higher than the previous test. Dr. D'Adamo says (and he is not alone) that high cholesterol is linked to low thyroid function to which type O's are prone. I had been complaining aobut low thyroid for a while. In my HMO, which is Kaiser, supposedly the best one in the game, your thyroid is only considered low if your TSH test comes back 8 or over. I have found that practitioners outside Kaiser will treat if the TSH is over 3! Anyway my records of low waking axillary temperature etc. didn't get me any sympathy or help for the thyroid since my TSH was at 5. I actually had the doctor tell me that she didn't consider axillary temperatures valid, only temp by mouth. I asked her whether chronic sinus infection wouldn't alter that reading. She was blissfully unaware of those issues. Anyway, I got nowhere. (She wanted me to start HRT actually which for some reason doesn't thrill me.) So now for the cholesterol. Gotta deal with it. The switch to fish is probably helping. And I'm on the lookout for other good ideas. Here's an article I found which gave me some good new information. It came from http://www.healthyideas.com/healing/living/cholesterol.html ****************** Cholesterol The Anti-Cholesterol Shopping Cart If you're concerned about cholesterol, you probably already know the basics: a healthy low-fat diet that goes easy on the butter, well-marbled steaks and chocolate chip cookies. But there's more to controlling your cholesterol than memorizing long lists of forbidden foods. If you're tired of being told about all the things you shouldn't eat, maybe it's time to start concentrating on a few things you should eat. One food you should get into the habit of tossing into your shopping cart is the humble bunch of grapes, says Elson Haas, MD, director of the Preventive Medical Center of Marin in San , CA. " There's a compound in grape skins and seeds that helps lower cholesterol, " he says. While you're in the produce section, you should also pick up a few juicy grapefruits. A study at the University of Florida found that people who ate a cup and a half of grapefruit sections each day lowered their cholesterol levels by more than 7 percent in two months. Grapefruits are rich in a fiber called pectin that binds with dietary fat and cholesterol and escorts them out of your body before they can be absorbed into your bloodstream. Another way to get more pectin into your diet is to eat more carrots. In fact, researchers have found that some people can lower their total cholesterol 10 to 20 percent just by eating two carrots a day, says D. Hoagland, PhD, a researcher at the U.S. Department of Agriculture Eastern Regional Research Center in Philadelphia. For Lower Cholesterol, just add Milk If your morning routine consists of a cup of coffee and a surly comment to the paperboy, you're missing out on one of the easiest ways to control your cholesterol. In a word: breakfast. People who skip the most important meal of the day tend to have higher cholesterol levels than those who start off their mornings with a bellyful. One reason may be that breakfast skippers make up for missing the morning feast by munching on unhealthy snacks later on, suggest L. Stanton, PhD, a professor at St. ph's University in Philadelphia. Of course, this doesn't mean you should indulge your morning craving for a fat-filled Egg McMuffin. The best breakfast for cholesterol control also happens to be one of the simplest, cheapest and quickest to prepare: a bowl of ready-to-eat cereal with skim milk. Research shows that people who start the day with a little snap, crackle and pop have lower cholesterol levels than those who choose other breakfasts. Clobber Cholesterol with a Clove You've heard whispers that eating garlic can help keep cholesterol under control -- but you're wary of the distinctive-smelling breath that makes your corner pizza parlor a really bad place for a date. While eating one clove of garlic a day is effective in reducing cholesterol, it's not the only way to get the blood-cleansing benefit of this fragrant plant, says Varro E. Tyler, PhD, professor of pharmacognosy at Purdue University. You can get the same effect with garlic supplements, sold at many health food stores. In fact, allicin -- the active ingredient in garlic -- is actually easier for your body to absorb when taken as a supplement. Dr.Tyler suggests looking for a supplement labeled " enteric coated. " These supplements pass through your stomach and are digested in the small intestine, minimizing the chance of stomach upset. See Your Way to Lower Cholesterol By exercising and eating right, you've enlisted your whole body in the fight against cholesterol. Now get your mind in on the act with this visualization from Barbara Dossey, RN, director of Holistic Nursing Consultants in Santa Fe, NM: Imagine you're following a beam of light into one of your blood vessels. As you approach the wall of the vessel, notice the dome-shaped accumulation of sticky cholesterol that has collected over an old injury to the vessel. Now picture yourself gently peeling off layers of fatty material and handing them over to special cells that pass by. Like little garbage trucks, these cells haul the cholesterol to the intestine, where it begins its journey out of your body. Next, travel over to your liver, where cholesterol is manufactured. Imagine talking to the supervisor of cholesterol production and suggesting that production quotas should be lower, so less cholesterol is made. He agrees and promises that your cholesterol will be maintained at a lower, healthy level. Dossey recommends doing this exercise twice a day for 15 to 20 minutes at a time. ***************** Aikya ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please click above to support our sponsor ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2000 Report Share Posted January 8, 2000 Not all of us. I checked out with a beef allergy years ago and still get gunky from it. Angus is a superior grade though. I at least only eat that. Boy is it good. Jeanie Cholesterol From: " aikya " <aikya@...> So when I went to the doctor recently, before I figured out that my body wants to be a predominantly fish-eating Type O, blood tests revealed cholesterol levels that were 100 points higher than the previous test. Dr. D'Adamo says (and he is not alone) that high cholesterol is linked to low thyroid function to which type O's are prone. I had been complaining aobut low thyroid for a while. In my HMO, which is Kaiser, supposedly the best one in the game, your thyroid is only considered low if your TSH test comes back 8 or over. I have found that practitioners outside Kaiser will treat if the TSH is over 3! Anyway my records of low waking axillary temperature etc. didn't get me any sympathy or help for the thyroid since my TSH was at 5. I actually had the doctor tell me that she didn't consider axillary temperatures valid, only temp by mouth. I asked her whether chronic sinus infection wouldn't alter that reading. She was blissfully unaware of those issues. Anyway, I got nowhere. (She wanted me to start HRT actually which for some reason doesn't thrill me.) So now for the cholesterol. Gotta deal with it. The switch to fish is probably helping. And I'm on the lookout for other good ideas. Here's an article I found which gave me some good new information. It came from http://www.healthyideas.com/healing/living/cholesterol.html ****************** Cholesterol The Anti-Cholesterol Shopping Cart If you're concerned about cholesterol, you probably already know the basics: a healthy low-fat diet that goes easy on the butter, well-marbled steaks and chocolate chip cookies. But there's more to controlling your cholesterol than memorizing long lists of forbidden foods. If you're tired of being told about all the things you shouldn't eat, maybe it's time to start concentrating on a few things you should eat. One food you should get into the habit of tossing into your shopping cart is the humble bunch of grapes, says Elson Haas, MD, director of the Preventive Medical Center of Marin in San , CA. " There's a compound in grape skins and seeds that helps lower cholesterol, " he says. While you're in the produce section, you should also pick up a few juicy grapefruits. A study at the University of Florida found that people who ate a cup and a half of grapefruit sections each day lowered their cholesterol levels by more than 7 percent in two months. Grapefruits are rich in a fiber called pectin that binds with dietary fat and cholesterol and escorts them out of your body before they can be absorbed into your bloodstream. Another way to get more pectin into your diet is to eat more carrots. In fact, researchers have found that some people can lower their total cholesterol 10 to 20 percent just by eating two carrots a day, says D. Hoagland, PhD, a researcher at the U.S. Department of Agriculture Eastern Regional Research Center in Philadelphia. For Lower Cholesterol, just add Milk If your morning routine consists of a cup of coffee and a surly comment to the paperboy, you're missing out on one of the easiest ways to control your cholesterol. In a word: breakfast. People who skip the most important meal of the day tend to have higher cholesterol levels than those who start off their mornings with a bellyful. One reason may be that breakfast skippers make up for missing the morning feast by munching on unhealthy snacks later on, suggest L. Stanton, PhD, a professor at St. ph's University in Philadelphia. Of course, this doesn't mean you should indulge your morning craving for a fat-filled Egg McMuffin. The best breakfast for cholesterol control also happens to be one of the simplest, cheapest and quickest to prepare: a bowl of ready-to-eat cereal with skim milk. Research shows that people who start the day with a little snap, crackle and pop have lower cholesterol levels than those who choose other breakfasts. Clobber Cholesterol with a Clove You've heard whispers that eating garlic can help keep cholesterol under control -- but you're wary of the distinctive-smelling breath that makes your corner pizza parlor a really bad place for a date. While eating one clove of garlic a day is effective in reducing cholesterol, it's not the only way to get the blood-cleansing benefit of this fragrant plant, says Varro E. Tyler, PhD, professor of pharmacognosy at Purdue University. You can get the same effect with garlic supplements, sold at many health food stores. In fact, allicin -- the active ingredient in garlic -- is actually easier for your body to absorb when taken as a supplement. Dr.Tyler suggests looking for a supplement labeled " enteric coated. " These supplements pass through your stomach and are digested in the small intestine, minimizing the chance of stomach upset. See Your Way to Lower Cholesterol By exercising and eating right, you've enlisted your whole body in the fight against cholesterol. Now get your mind in on the act with this visualization from Barbara Dossey, RN, director of Holistic Nursing Consultants in Santa Fe, NM: Imagine you're following a beam of light into one of your blood vessels. As you approach the wall of the vessel, notice the dome-shaped accumulation of sticky cholesterol that has collected over an old injury to the vessel. Now picture yourself gently peeling off layers of fatty material and handing them over to special cells that pass by. Like little garbage trucks, these cells haul the cholesterol to the intestine, where it begins its journey out of your body. Next, travel over to your liver, where cholesterol is manufactured. Imagine talking to the supervisor of cholesterol production and suggesting that production quotas should be lower, so less cholesterol is made. He agrees and promises that your cholesterol will be maintained at a lower, healthy level. Dossey recommends doing this exercise twice a day for 15 to 20 minutes at a time. ***************** Aikya ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please click above to support our sponsor ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2000 Report Share Posted January 8, 2000 Amen Pam. You have such a sweet, positive attitude. Thanks for your words of wisdom. This list is indeed a blessing. We eat so differently its nice to have eachothers support. Jeanie > > In a message dated 01/08/2000 2:15:57 PM Mountain Standard Time, > sparrow@... writes: > > << i thought beef was ok for us " O's' " >> > > > I think we all have to remember that nothing is OK for everyone in all > circumstances at all times. That is why this list is so wonderful. Many of > us have shared our experiences with the sometimes subtle feelings that are > going on. This helps each one of us. I am at the point where I either print > out the email or at least take notes. We all have to be responsible for > being aware of our bodies. As we clean up the messes that we have been > carrying around for so many years, we will become more > sensitive to how we are feeling. I am much more aware of what bothers my > digestion now than I was even 6 months ago. Yes, we can normally tolerate > beef. But some of us are more sensitive to cholesterol maybe until we get > our thyroid running well again. Those of you who are in your twenties and > thirties can rejoice. You have been exposed to the truth at a much younger > age that those of us who are in our mid fifties! The older ones on this list > have had our ignorance do much more damage to our bodies. So think before > you eat. Yep, that chocolate muffin will taste good going down, but you > won;t feel good for long. Eat lean beef. Try some baked fish or roasted > chicken once in a while. Eat tons of green leafy vegs. If you don;t have > the ER4YT book, get it. No excuses here. If you have a weight problem, go > easy on the starches and fill up on the green stuff. Try to have a HB food > at every meal or snack. Drink plenty of water. When I can't seem to drink > enough water, I substitute diluted herb tea from the refrigerator. I used to > call it sun tea, but we have not had enough sun so I guess it is refrigerator > tea. I use one or two bags in two qts of water. I even keep some by my bed > at night. I go to bed cold but wake in the middle of the night hot and > sweaty. Too old for " hot flashes " so must be my thyroid. Our eating program > is not hard. We get lots of things to eat. And don;t forget soup. You guys > are probably tires of hearing me talk about it, but it is truly a great thing > for us. Use your spices. But most important of all, listen to you body. > Maybe it would be a good idea to write down what you eat and also symptoms > that occur. Maybe you will see a pattern that you have more energy X number > of hours after you eat *. Or you have a queasy tummy X number of days when > you eat too much of something else. The body has integrity and wants to be > healthy. All we have to do is to remember to stay in tune with ourselves. > And of course don;t forget to share what you have learned on this list! > Happy New Year. > > Pam > > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2000 Report Share Posted January 8, 2000 excellent post. so encouraging and lovingly said. thank you. robin Re: Cholesterol From: Sharpcats@... In a message dated 01/08/2000 2:15:57 PM Mountain Standard Time, sparrow@... writes: << i thought beef was ok for us " O's' " >> I think we all have to remember that nothing is OK for everyone in all circumstances at all times. That is why this list is so wonderful. Many of us have shared our experiences with the sometimes subtle feelings that are going on. This helps each one of us. I am at the point where I either print out the email or at least take notes. We all have to be responsible for being aware of our bodies. As we clean up the messes that we have been carrying around for so many years, we will become more sensitive to how we are feeling. I am much more aware of what bothers my digestion now than I was even 6 months ago. Yes, we can normally tolerate beef. But some of us are more sensitive to cholesterol maybe until we get our thyroid running well again. Those of you who are in your twenties and thirties can rejoice. You have been exposed to the truth at a much younger age that those of us who are in our mid fifties! The older ones on this list have had our ignorance do much more damage to our bodies. So think before you eat. Yep, that chocolate muffin will taste good going down, but you won;t feel good for long. Eat lean beef. Try some baked fish or roasted chicken once in a while. Eat tons of green leafy vegs. If you don;t have the ER4YT book, get it. No excuses here. If you have a weight problem, go easy on the starches and fill up on the green stuff. Try to have a HB food at every meal or snack. Drink plenty of water. When I can't seem to drink enough water, I substitute diluted herb tea from the refrigerator. I used to call it sun tea, but we have not had enough sun so I guess it is refrigerator tea. I use one or two bags in two qts of water. I even keep some by my bed at night. I go to bed cold but wake in the middle of the night hot and sweaty. Too old for " hot flashes " so must be my thyroid. Our eating program is not hard. We get lots of things to eat. And don;t forget soup. You guys are probably tires of hearing me talk about it, but it is truly a great thing for us. Use your spices. But most important of all, listen to you body. Maybe it would be a good idea to write down what you eat and also symptoms that occur. Maybe you will see a pattern that you have more energy X number of hours after you eat *. Or you have a queasy tummy X number of days when you eat too much of something else. The body has integrity and wants to be healthy. All we have to do is to remember to stay in tune with ourselves. And of course don;t forget to share what you have learned on this list! Happy New Year. Pam ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please click above to support our sponsor ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2000 Report Share Posted January 9, 2000 Beef is okay for O's. Dr. D'Adamo goes farther than the allopahic medical community in acknowledging the individual differences due to blood type. Even within blood type there are further differences. Some type O's suffer from fibromalgia and must try to deal with it. Other type O's do not. Some type O's have to deal with cholesterol like me. Other's do not. After you get the hang of the diet, it's okay to make adjustments you need to make that fit you. Aikya Re: Cholesterol From: " sparrow " <sparrow@...> i thought beef was ok for us " O's' " ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please click above to support our sponsor ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2000 Report Share Posted January 9, 2000 Is there a connection with type O's and Fibromyalgia? i have it ...i am trying to find the causes and researching for 7 years i have come close to finding many causes...but do you know something about the O's and fibro? sparrow Some type O's suffer from fibromalgia and must try to deal with it. Other type O's do not. Some type O's have to deal with cholesterol like me. Other's do not. After you get the hang of the diet, it's okay to make adjustments you need to make that fit you. Aikya Re: Cholesterol From: " sparrow " <sparrow@...> i thought beef was ok for us " O's' " -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please click above to support our sponsor -------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2001 Report Share Posted December 14, 2001 Hmmmm, well, I had mine tested at the beginning of BTD and 3 months later after I'd been on it diligently. My cholesterol numbers all dramatically improved! And I've been eating plenty of beef as an Onegnon. Also wondering why yours are so high? Lilla Message: 20 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 15:32:23 -0500 From: " Beckwith " <hoticetea@...> Subject: IMPORTANT!! HELP! ESCALATING CHOLESTEROL LEVELS!! Merrill: This was exactly my concern when I went on this program. All this meat and the eggs, and the fat. But, I rationalized being an O and eating this way would " balance out " . Apparently not. At least, not in your case, and maybe not in mine, if I were to be tested. The dramatic change in your cholesterol stats is pretty scary. This week I ate a lot of lamb burgers, which are very GREASEY. When I look at the pan, I think " good grief, I'm ingesting all this fat " . I'm still not sure about the safety of all this. But, since I'm NO expert - - feedback from would be good. Axel or M even better - because they are Os. Please help!! Best wishes, karenb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2002 Report Share Posted May 19, 2002 Hi: I went thru the same things. The Dr. wanted to put me on Lipitor and I said no., I will not put my liver thru that and the next time I went to the Dr it was better. Phyllis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2002 Report Share Posted May 19, 2002 Hello Mermaid, My " good " chol was on the low side also. I was told to eat things like blueberries, pecans, and walnuts. Since I have been doing that (one month now) I have not had mine checked yet, but I feel great. S cholesterol > Hi everyone, > > I have a question that I hope some of you will be able to answer. I went to > my doctor for my yearly physical and even though I'm only five months out, I > went ahead and took the bloodwork list and had that done. Most everything > was fine. My liver numbers were slightly elevated, which I knew to expect > from reading the post. What I didn't expect were the cholesterol results. > My " bad " choles. was 11 points higher than the normal range - 211. That > didn't concern my doctor as much as the " good " cholesterol. The normal > range starts at 40. Mine was 32. They are concerned that it is so low. I > asked the nurse what to do to raise it. Do you know what she said? Diet > and exercise. What does she think I've been doing the last 5 months?!? Now > granted, I'm one of the lucky one (or unlucky - depending on your point of > view). I can eat almost anything without problem. But except for the last > two weeks in which I've had to eat out alot, I've done pretty well. The > blood work was done 9 days ago, so I don't feel that only a few days of > eating out should have caused all this - or would it. I'm hoping some of > you know more about this than I do. > > The Mermaid > 12-7-01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2003 Report Share Posted April 7, 2003 What else were you eating besides ¡È¡É¡Éhave been eating fish at least 3/week, and have chicken once a week¡É¡É¡É ??? cholesterol I had my cholesterol tested in Dec. along with the cardiac risk factor, and again about 3 weeks ago. The orginal cholesterol figures were a little high in DEc and within the normal range in Mar. My trigycerides on the other hand, are higher as is my cardiac risk factor. I started the diet in Jan. What is making these numbers high? I only cook lean meats and trim all fat off, have been eating fish at least 3/week, and have chicken once a week. Any suggestions would be appreciated. It was kind of discouraging to find out the results after being so diligent about the diet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2003 Report Share Posted April 7, 2003 I hav been eating lots of the benefical vegies, fruit, and sweet potatoes. Some spelt bread for a roast beef sandwich. I have not had an avoid to the best of my knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 Good luck Kay, I know it is hard with these darn medicines of ours, especially when they get in the way each other! Sometimes it is almost impossible to know what to do and you have to try one thing and if it doesn't work, then try another, (sigh). Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 Thanks, Matt, You said it well. People seem surprised when I say I have high cholesterol because I'm a petite woman. The last time it was checked I was on prednisone which has a negative impact on Cholesterol. Also, although I have high cholesterol, the ration of LDL to HDL isn't too bad. I was put on Cholesterol medication but I thought it was increasing muscle pain and weakness. The pain continued in spite of stopping the medication. I would like it rechecked since I've been off the medication and also off prednisone. Perhaps there is no longer a need for cholesterol lowering medication. Some doctors are recommending the statin group of drugs for about everyone as we age. Also, I understand, that the NSAIDs that most of us take can have a positive effect on the heart. Kay Braddock Speedway German Wirehaired Pointers Paint Horses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 Kay, my husband's daughter (my stepdaughter) just went on a statin drug after trying, for several years, to use diet and exercise as an alternative to medication. She lost 25 pounds, but her doctor told her she shouldn't wait any longer. If I remember right, her cholesterol was 260....and didn't have a good ratio of bad verses good. It runs in her mother's family....all seem to have a problem with cholesterol. My cholesterol is borderline, but my doctor says that the good cholesterol balances it out. I have high bloodpressure and take three medicines for that...so it is important to watch out for cholesterol problems. I wouldn't know how to read the ratio between good and bad...so I rely on my doctor's advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2004 Report Share Posted January 16, 2004 The new findings may influence dietary recommendations for people with high cholesterol. For instance, certain low-fat diets that reduce both LDL and HDL levels may be less beneficial than diets that boost HDL cholesterol readings. Products that are high in LDL-lowering trans fats, such as margarine, may also cause an unwelcome drop in heart-protective HDL cholesterol. the authors found that changes in the ratios, as opposed to changes in LDL levels alone, more accurately measure changes in a patient's risk of coronary heart disease. Again, the study challenges current guidelines that state physicians should use the changes in LDL levels alone as a measure of treatment success. For instance, some physicians recommend that patients follow a very restrictive, low-fat diet in order to reduce their LDL level. Often times the HDL level will drop as well, which means the treatment has a neutral -- and sometimes a negative -- effect on reducing coronary heart disease risk. By placing patients on a diet without the heavy restrictions, the patients may not have drastic reductions in their LDL levels, but their HDL levels may improve so much that the net result is much better. By following a less restrictive diet, not only will the quality of life improve for patients, but their coronary heart disease risk may improve as well. Weight Watchers increased HDL cholesterol by 18.5%, while the Atkins and Zone diets increased HDL by 15.4% and 14.6%, respectively. http://www.pslgroup.com/dg951101b.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2004 Report Share Posted January 16, 2004 Good post Connie, I know you and I have sometimes disagreed about health foods, but when it comes to cholesterol, the health food industry is badly misleading a lot of people. I think some of their claims are almost criminal. Cholestorol needs to be measured and monitored by a Doctor, especially when you get older. If needed, you should be treated by a Doctor and not try any of the so-called cures promoted in books or by products. The Doctor may recommend a change in diet and exercise as a first try, but ultimately he or she should be the one who decides when\if you need medication. The reason is with cholesterol you could eat all the right foods, do all the good exercise, do everything exactly perfect and still have dangerously high cholesterol. The reason is genetic, it is NOT your fault, diet and exercise can take you only so far, after that their benefits fall off sharply. The maximum benefit that can be reached by diet and exercise has been measured over and over and over again. It ain't no secret. In cases where diet and exercise are not enough, it is your own body that is creating the " bad " cholesterol, but mentioning that fact doesn't sell books. There are people who never diet, never exercise and are even overweight and still have low cholesterol. There are people who are vegetarians, eat only the good cholesterol, exercise everyday and yet die of heart disease caused by high cholesterol, which they never bothered to have measured because they thought they never needed to. (Krispy Kreme doughnut anyone?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 May be metabolic type? And you definitely have special circumstances that also need to be factored into your diet choices. BTD needs to be just 1 of yout choice factors. Kathy Irene de Villiers <furryboots@...> wrote: THOMAS DEKANY wrote: > According to , for O types cholesterol is " OK " up to 350 What about LDL in particular? Mine was well under the desirable 100 max before BTD which I started oon 7-24-04 and now it is 198, double the max. Lousy trend! I had just spent a year eating a diet that reduced it down from the skies! I am not comfortable that BTD has put it way back up again. Especially as I was having heart attacks when I first changed to a diet to lower it. At least my triglycerides and HDL are still good - but the LDL is said to be the dangerous one and I don't like it so way up. My blood glucose has also gone up on the BTD as measured by A1c - a 3 month average. Another bad trend out of normal limits that was inside normal before BTD. I expected to get healthier! ?????????? So what's this about? ...Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Here is some info about cholesterol. Lighten The Load The other day I was flipping through a magazine that had nothing at all to do with healthcare, when I came across a line that read something like this: " As everyone knows, we should cut down on the cholesterol in our diets to protect us from heart attacks. " You would think, with all the information we've seen about cholesterol in the media over the past few years, that some of the basics would have sunk in by now. Like, for instance: consumption of cholesterol doesn't increase our cholesterol levels. Obviously we still have a long way to go before the basics of cholesterol are widely understood. Today we'll move a little further in the right direction with two recent e-mails I received from HSI members posing questions that will help us sort through some of the most typical cholesterol misconceptions. (Some of this will be familiar to long-time members and e-Alert readers, but bear with me - I've got some new information too.) The good and the bad An HSI member named Ivan writes to say that he's confused about what he feels are mixed signals about cholesterol. Ivan writes: " As someone who has been concerned about their risk of heart disease for several years, I am intrigued by what you have posted. Things like: cholesterol is not a good indicator of risk, homosystene level is better. If cholesterol is not a good indicator then why do you advertise supplements that control it? I find this very conflicting info. " This is a good question, especially in light of all the dangers of statin drugs (like Lipitor and Zocor) that lower cholesterol. Ivan is right - cholesterol is not a particularly good indicator of risk to your heart. Much better indicators are your levels of triglycerides, homocysteine, and C-reactive protein. This is why it simply doesn't make sense to take a statin drug that has plenty of known side effects, such as memory loss, muscle inflammation, kidney failure, irritability, etc. Nevertheless, it's not a good idea to ignore cholesterol either. Generally speaking, keeping your LDL cholesterol low and your HDL cholesterol high IS good for your heart health - but not to the point that you should create other health problems by risking the side effects of a pharmaceutical. So if you don't take statins, how can you get that " good " HDL cholesterol up, and the " bad " LDL cholesterol down? Exercise, maintain a proper body weight, stop smoking, limit alcohol consumption, increase your intake of omega-3 fatty acids, cut out the junk foods in favor of the soluble fiber in fruits and vegetables, and take supplements that are known to protect the heart. Making all of that happen is easier said than done, I know, but if you're committed to supporting the health of your heart, these regimens should also bring triglyceride, homocysteine and C-reactive protein levels into line as well. The free radical hunt In addition to the lifestyle choices mentioned above, getting a good intake of antioxidants is also good for the heart. But a member named Bill has heard something to the contrary: " I have low HDL. A recent medical study says that a high use of antioxidants can increase risk of heart events because HDL is lowered by them and studies show an increase in arterial plaque. This is devastating. I have been a religious user of antioxidants over the years. What is one supposed to think...and do? " Bill, whatever you do, DO NOT get rid of the antioxidants! There is a large body of evidence that antioxidants assist in the prevention of heart disease by helping to keep arteries clear. I haven't found any studies concluding that antioxidants lower HDL cholesterol, and Bill didn't include any further details (such as a journal citation) in his e-mail. So I have to think that Bill is probably referring to a 2001 study in which a combination of four antioxidants - vitamin E, vitamin C, beta-carotene, and selenium - were believed to inhibit the effectiveness of statin drugs in lowering HDL. In an e-Alert I sent you in the summer of 2001 ( " Antioxidants Heart Healthy, Despite Mainstream Slant " 8/18/01), HSI Panelist Randall Wilkinson, M.D., had this to say about the antioxidant/statin research: " The biggest problem with the study isn't the conclusion, " he said. " After all, it may well be that some antioxidants lessen the strength of statins. The real problem is the assumption the researchers make that statin drugs are simply the best thing to take for heart disease. While that may be assumed by the mainstream medical community, it simply isn't true. " Take vitamin E, for example. Double-blind, placebo-controlled human studies have shown that the tocotrienol form of vitamin E lowers cholesterol, improves LDL:HDL levels, and provides general heart protection. And unlike statin drugs, you're not at the mercy of potentially dangerous side-effects when you take them. " In other words, Bill, I sincerely doubt that there's a valid study out there that shows antioxidants might have a negative effect on HDL levels, although they may have been shown to " interfere " with expensive prescription drugs doing their thing. Liver cargo I'm going to finish up today's cholesterol e-Alert with a comment (edited slightly for length) posted on the HSI Forum last month by a member named Gerry, a frequent contributor to the Forum. I've been reading Gerry's postings for about a year now and I always find them interesting and insightful. Gerry starts off by wondering why HDL (high density lipoprotein) and LDL (low density lipoprotein) are considered different substances. He says, " LDL is nothing but HDL with fat and/or cholesterol attached. This fat/cholesterol was made in the liver (mainly because of increase in blood glucose, and thus, insulin levels). The liver must not keep this fat in its tissue and must send it off to other parts of the body. To do this, it attaches the fat/cholesterol to a carrier: HDL. The process converts HDL to LDL and even V(ery)LDL. " The LDL/VLDL then leaves the liver with its cargo and deposits its load in other parts of the body (harmlessly in fat cells, or harmfully in blood vessel walls and similar structures). Once LDL/VLDL drops its cargo of fat/cholesterol, it is now HDL again. Thus, HDL and LDL are the same molecule, except that LDL has an additional cargo. You might say that the body has a constant supply of HDL. If more of it is 'loaded' then you have 'more' LDL and 'less' HDL. If less carries a load, then you have 'more' HDL and 'less' LDL. " So if you want to 'raise' your HDL, you'll have to 'lower' your LDL. And as the mechanisms shown above reveal, you can only do this naturally by controlling fat/cholesterol formation in the liver, mainly by controlling blood glucose levels and insulin secretion. This is even proven by the fact that cholesterol lowering drugs act on the liver enzymes. " In addition, lipoprotein, as the name implies, is made up of protein. So raising overall supply of HDL - whether loaded or not - will require additional protein. This is all clearly shown in any biochemistry or physiology textbook. " As soon as I read that last comment I recalled yesterday's e-Alert ( " Jumpin' Pax Flash " 6/9/03) in which a year-long controlled study found that the Atkins high protein diet significantly increases HDL cholesterol. So in spite of not being the most important marker for heart disease, your cholesterol levels should be monitored and - more importantly - can be maintained in most cases without the use of statin drugs. To Your Good Health, Health Sciences Institute Sources: " Antioxidant Supplements Lessen HDL Response To Cholesterol Drugs " American Heart Association, Journal Report, 8/10/01, americanheart.org Copyright © 1997 - 2004 by Institute of Health Sciences, L.L.C. Cholesterol THOMAS DEKANY wrote: > According to , for O types cholesterol is " OK " up to 350 What about LDL in particular? Mine was well under the desirable 100 max before BTD which I started oon 7-24-04 and now it is 198, double the max. Lousy trend! I had just spent a year eating a diet that reduced it down from the skies! I am not comfortable that BTD has put it way back up again. Especially as I was having heart attacks when I first changed to a diet to lower it. At least my triglycerides and HDL are still good - but the LDL is said to be the dangerous one and I don't like it so way up. My blood glucose has also gone up on the BTD as measured by A1c - a 3 month average. Another bad trend out of normal limits that was inside normal before BTD. I expected to get healthier! ?????????? So what's this about? ..Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 I would not be happy with those results, but I don't think you've been on BTD for a year and many of the things you do in particular, the 1c of skim milk powder per day are not BTD. Doing part of one diet and part of another probably diminishes from the benefits of both. You probably need to be especially careful about using grassfed beef, free range poultry and wild caught salmon, etc. You should possibly also be toward the lower end of the protein and egg range for non-secretors. You know what you ate for low glucose and low cholesterol. Now you have a new puzzle to figure out. Your cortisol problems, etc. also make you a special case. You might look into the metabolic type info that Kathy mentioned. I also consider it somewhat, but still choose O friendly foods to fit that system. I have read that triglycerides are a better indicator of heart attack risk for women than LDL, etc., but I would not accept a 198 LDL myself. Cheryl > > According to , for O types cholesterol is " OK " up to 350 > > What about LDL in particular? > Mine was well under the desirable 100 max before BTD which I started oon > 7-24-04 and now it is 198, double the max. > Lousy trend! I had just spent a year eating a diet that reduced it down > from the skies! I am not comfortable that BTD has put it way back up > again. Especially as I was having heart attacks when I first changed to > a diet to lower it. > At least my triglycerides and HDL are still good - but the LDL is said > to be the dangerous one and I don't like it so way up. > My blood glucose has also gone up on the BTD as measured by A1c - a 3 > month average. Another bad trend out of normal limits that was inside > normal before BTD. > > I expected to get healthier! ?????????? > So what's this about? > > ..Irene > -- > Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. > P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. > http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html > Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 In a message dated 9/18/2004 9:32:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, furryboots@... writes: I'll try to cut out the hamburger patties at fast food places where I eat now and then (about weekly) as they are high fat. The high fat in burgers is not necessarily a bad thing. Natural fat that you eat doesn't cause high cholesterol. Type Os burn fat for fuel. Too many carbs will boost your cholesterol levels. Watch the carbs/avoid foods not the fat (within reason of course). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 cherylhcmba wrote: > I would not be happy with those results, but I don't think you've > been on BTD for a year and many of the things you do in particular, > the 1c of skim milk powder per day are not BTD. Hi Cheryl, Yes true but actually I have been more milk-compliant than I thought I could be. I've used a cup of powder only three times since mid-August and I am finding other ways to handle the reflux problem, mainly I have discovered that sweet potato and/or beetroot for some reason is helpful if I eat that and some meat with my last supplements. Also rice milk works if I use some of that at my bedside to sip as needed in the night. It doesn't solve the calcium problem and I am very prone to osteoporosis with cushings. I take supplements but only time will tell if that's good enough in my case. So since I started BTD on 24 July I have used milk only the first week after the nasty problem I had after 2 weeks of full compliance - and since then only 3 times more total. So I have been on BTD since 24 July, with milk on 10 days total, most of them in mid-August. Still - my LDL was less than half that at the start of BTD - and it is hard to believe that doing more of what made it double, will allow it to halve again. So I am adding in more olive oil, fiber and garlic to hopefully help, and I'll try to cut out the hamburger patties at fast food places where I eat now and then (about weekly) as they are high fat. At home I use bottom round steak but it still has some saturated fat even after trimming. So I am not sure what other strategies I can add in to lower LDL. If I was still in SA I'd change to eating Kudu and ostrich instead of beef, but I am in USA and poorer than a churchmouse so it is not an option. > Doing part of one > diet and part of another probably diminishes from the benefits of > both. I think that combining two diets so they are both compliant may be the way to go. I found the Perricone one got my LDL down before - so maybe I need to find a way to fold Perricone into BTD, and comply with both if possible. > You probably need to be especially careful about using > grassfed beef, free range poultry and wild caught salmon, etc. This is financially impossible in my case as my income is well below poverty level, except I do stick to wild salmon - but it mostly has to be the cheap canned fish and not fresh caught Alaskan. Currently I have salmon burgers from Costco but they are not ideal - loaded with canola oil. Anything more than 2 bucks a pound I can't afford so it's a tad challenging :-) Still I keep an eye out for any specials and need to know what's good so I can get it when I am able. > You > should possibly also be toward the lower end of the protein and egg > range for non-secretors. Lower end of the protein and egg? You mean lower quantity of protein? If thats what you meant, it would help LDL I am sure - but it doesn't work for me at all, I need to eat very high protein. All that sugar in my blood stream is there because cortisol turns muscle to sugar - and the protein in my blood is below normal even though I eat a pound of red meat a day, plus chicken and fish. I was using a few cups of milk powder a day - skim - to get extra protein to fuel that protein destruction problem and resupply it. I don't know what other protein to try instead. I get powdered milk very inexpensively so that was a great help to me, and I am struggling to make ends " meat " without it :-) I sure wish skim milk with olive oil was on the list for O - as it was indeed helpful to me as a low cost protein and LDL strategy. > You know what you ate for low glucose and > low cholesterol. Yeah skim milk and olive oil for LDL lowering :-) With the glucose the whole Perricone diet is low glycemic. BTD is not. > Now you have a new puzzle to figure out. Your > cortisol problems, etc. also make you a special case. You might look > into the metabolic type info that Kathy mentioned. I have looked at metabolic type and at body type diets. I am a very fast oxidizer, and a thyroid type and I need very high protein - which does not help the dilemma! Looks like if I could find inexpensive fish it may help - and I can get canned fish reasonably but is that really healthy? I am sure fresh food is better. Or frozen. Otherwise there is brewer's yeast as protein boost, and that's approved. That may be good for LDL as a protein boost? It's pricey but may suit the task. I'll check out its nutrient profile. > I have read that triglycerides are a better indicator of heart attack > risk for women than LDL, etc., but I would not accept a 198 LDL > myself. I can't afford to accept it either. I have already had heart attacks, it runs in the family etc. I also had HCM myself in 2001 and am not fully over that yet either - another side effect of cushings. So high LDL is not wise for me. I can actually feel that my heart is not behaving as consistently as before BTD. So I do seem to have many pros and cons to weigh, to find the optimum selections for my situation. It will probably take time, it may be that trying to do it all i one go is not right for me. This weekend I have three diets to try to combine - the advice of my homeopath which is based on my lab results and takes precedence; the advice of Perricone's book which did improve my health - and the advice of D'Adamo's book which also helped in different ways. I hope to find enough common to all three to get a viable starting place that gives me enough nutrients in a budget I can cope with. Then I may have to " patch " in a bit of something less ideal in order to meet current needs. Hopefully the BTD encyclopaedia will later help me choose the least harmful non-compliance *if* I need to go that way, so as to minimize any non-compliance. I tend to be a perfectionist - so I will look for full compliance, and if it is doable I'll find it. Thanks for all the food for thought Cheryl - it always helps to have an objective view to consider. Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. 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Guest guest Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 Maddviking@... wrote: Too many > carbs will boost your cholesterol levels. Watch the carbs/avoid foods not the > fat (within reason of course). Hi, Instinct tells me this makes considerable sense - as I have been eating less total protein on BTD than when I threw in a few cups of milk powder a day - and in fact my blood tests show my blood protein is below normal which was not the case before. I had increased the meat I eat significantly - but apparently not enough to make up for the huge number of protein grams I was getting from milk. Logically - the increased meat and egg also means increased cholesterol intake - and I assumed that the cause. Is there scientific backing for a cholesterol-carbs connection too that you know of? Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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