Magnesium

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> i know many of you use topical magnesium as part of the iodine protocol

etc....what is the benefit of magnesium topically over orally ...are you

supposed to do both...or would that be overload? is there ever any side effects

when you use it topically and can you do too much of it if you say take it

orally and topically...and also what are the indications that someone might

benefit from topical application ( i am looking at ancient minerals if anyone

has an opinion on that as well...thanks ..dawn

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Dawn I take 400 mgs of Mag glycinate and I spray the mag oil (from Swansons

vitamins)daily. I understand from many sources we cannot overload on magnesium

since our bowels just eliminate it. The oil still itches when I put it on for

about 2 minutes but goes away. I investigated the Swanson's vs the Ancient and

they both come from the same source in Holland. I suggest spending $8 on a spray

bottle and buy some other needed supplements to maximize your $4.99 shipping

fee. I diluted the first amount about 50% to get used to the itchy feeling but

I'm used to it now. I can really see how some people would not tolerate this

stuff so I suggest a cheap test run.

Karin

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I find the mag chloride by Nutricologly cheaper to use and i dont get itchy.

Perhaps there is something else in the Swansons brand besides mag chloride? I

get the Nutricology from swanson, they have the cheapest price.

I try to get 1000mg of mag, from several sources, mag chelate, mag peroxide and

mag glycinate.

I can feel the mag starting to work when applied topically. And I seem to feel

better with it than without so I keep doing it.

Cheryl

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Cheryl do you apply the mag chloride topically? If so just the 1/2 tsp

recommended? I only found the 8 oz bottle. That is definitely different than

magnesium oil but perhaps better.

Karin

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> I find the mag chloride by Nutricologly cheaper to use and i dont get itchy.

Perhaps there is something else in the Swansons brand besides mag chloride? I

get the Nutricology from swanson, they have the cheapest price.

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> I try to get 1000mg of mag, from several sources, mag chelate, mag peroxide

and mag glycinate.

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> I can feel the mag starting to work when applied topically. And I seem to

feel better with it than without so I keep doing it.

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> Cheryl

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Hi Karin,

I do apply it just about everywhere. Face, neck, legs, feet, arms, hands. I

sometimes add the iodine at the same time (2 birds one stone). You can put it in

a spray bottle if you prefer, too.

Cheryl

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> Cheryl do you apply the mag chloride topically? If so just the 1/2 tsp

recommended? I only found the 8 oz bottle. That is definitely different than

magnesium oil but perhaps better.

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> Karin

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Can you tell me what the difference would be with the liquid form of magnesium and the capsules. I triple magnesium complex from Swanson. Is this the same thing should I be using both?

I'm taking this for bladder carcinoma along with curcumin, super alfalfa, selenium, spirulina, NAC, Chinese Chlorella, milk thistle, vitamin D3, Kyolic, serrapeptase.

Barbara

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The liquid is more likely to be mg chloride which is beneficial. and can also be applied topically - one can raise levels quicker and have the other benefits explained below:

Good explanation here;

http://www.magnesiumforlife.com/

After reading the main page-see the menu.

There is also a good and lengthy explanation of mag chloride here

http://www.health-science-spirit.com/magnesiumchloride.html

Bruce

Re: magnesium

Can you tell me what the difference would be with the liquid form of magnesium and the capsules. I triple magnesium complex from Swanson. Is this the same thing should I be using both?

I'm taking this for bladder carcinoma along with curcumin, super alfalfa, selenium, spirulina, NAC, Chinese Chlorella, milk thistle, vitamin D3, Kyolic, serrapeptase.

Barbara

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I found a liquid source of mag at ionicmagnesium.com. Do you know anything about this form?Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: "Bruce" <bruce@...>Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:56:38 -0500<iodine >Subject: Re: Re: magnesiumThe liquid is more likely to be mg chloride which is beneficial. and can also be applied topically - one can raise levels quicker and have the other benefits explained below:Good explanation here;http://www.magnesiumforlife.com/ After reading the main page-see the menu. There is also a good and lengthy explanation of mag chloride herehttp://www.health-science-spirit.com/magnesiumchloride.html Bruce Re: magnesium Can you tell me what the difference would be with the liquid form of magnesium and the capsules. I triple magnesium complex from Swanson. Is this the same thing should I be using both? I'm taking this for bladder carcinoma along with curcumin, super alfalfa, selenium, spirulina, NAC, Chinese Chlorella, milk thistle, vitamin D3, Kyolic, serrapeptase.Barbara

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No, maybe someone here has. When I see nano particles and ionic my suspicion

flags " go up.

" Nano particle magnesium was developed by inspiration from God. " from the

site...maybe...

Am by nature suspicious of products I call " fiddled with " lol

But that could be due to ignorance on my part. I stick with mg chloride and

sometimes mg citrate.

Bruce

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I found a liquid source of mag at ionicmagnesium.com. Do you know anything

about this form?

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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I use the mag chloride from http://www.magneticclay.com

gracia

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> Cheryl do you apply the mag chloride topically? If so just the 1/2 tsp

> recommended? I only found the 8 oz bottle. That is definitely

> different than magnesium oil but perhaps better.

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> get itchy. Perhaps there is something else in the Swansons brand

> besides mag chloride? I get the Nutricology from swanson, they have

> the cheapest price.

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> > I try to get 1000mg of mag, from several sources, mag chelate, mag

> peroxide and mag glycinate.

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> seem to feel better with it than without so I keep doing it.

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thought that given your job in reasearch you may have heard of this...sorry

> From: Bruce <bruce@...>

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> No, maybe someone here has. When I

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> " Nano particle magnesium was developed by inspiration from

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> But that could be due to ignorance on my part. I stick with

> mg chloride and

> sometimes mg citrate.

> Bruce

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> From: meredithsenter@...

> I found a liquid source of mag at ionicmagnesium.com. Do

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I called swanson and they said their magnesium was for soft skin. They did notbelieve it was absorbed nor did think it helped the body etc. they also saidit just had the magnesium - none of the trace minerals etc. I talked to anexpert at the company.From: bk4529@... <bk4529@...>Subject: Re: magnesiumiodine Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 7:34 PM

Can you tell me what the difference would be with the liquid form of magnesium and the capsules. I triple magnesium complex from Swanson. Is this the same thing should I be using both?

I'm taking this for bladder carcinoma along with curcumin, super alfalfa, selenium, spirulina, NAC, Chinese Chlorella, milk thistle, vitamin D3, Kyolic, serrapeptase.

Barbara

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The magneticclay mag chloride and the Swanson Mag oil have almost the same

wording on their ads... It's mined from deep underground at the site of the

ancient Zechstein Sea in The Netherlands.

Most likely both companies buy the product from the same supplier and put their

own labels. Big price difference tho!

Cheryl

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> I use the mag chloride from http://www.magneticclay.com

> gracia

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solid gold,

thanks

Bruce

From: Bruce <bruce@...>Subject: Re: Re: magnesiumiodine Date: Saturday, 21 November, 2009, 1:56

The liquid is more likely to be mg chloride which is beneficial. and can also be applied topically - one can raise levels quicker and have the other benefits explained below:

Good explanation here;

http://www.magnesiu mforlife. com/

After reading the main page-see the menu.

There is also a good and lengthy explanation of mag chloride here

http://www.health- science-spirit. com/magnesiumchl oride.html

Bruce

Re: magnesium

Can you tell me what the difference would be with the liquid form of magnesium and the capsules. I triple magnesium complex from Swanson. Is this the same thing should I be using both?

I'm taking this for bladder carcinoma along with curcumin, super alfalfa, selenium, spirulina, NAC, Chinese Chlorella, milk thistle, vitamin D3, Kyolic, serrapeptase.

Barbara

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One difference is if you take too much of the pills you may

get loose bowels. I take the triple magnesium also. Swanson also sells the magnesium

oil which is topical to put on your skin.

Lora Price

248-399-9014

Berkley, MI

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The Magnesium For Life link only works for me in the form:

http://magnesiumforlife.com/

and this for the second link:

http://health-science-spirit.com/magnesiumchloride.html

notice that the spaces have been removed as well as the

www.

I use Windows XP and the current Mozilla Firefox

AnitaW

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> From: Bruce <bruce@...>

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> The liquid is more likely to be mg chloride which is beneficial. and can

also be applied topically - one can raise levels quicker and have the other

benefits explained below:

> Good explanation here;

> http://www.magnesiu mforlife. com/

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> After reading the main page-see the menu.

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> There is also a good and lengthy explanation of mag chloride here

> http://www.health- science-spirit. com/magnesiumchl oride.html

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> Bruce

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> Can you tell me what the difference would be with the liquid form of

magnesium and the capsules. I triple magnesium complex from Swanson. Is this the

same thing should I be using both?

> I'm taking this for bladder carcinoma along with curcumin, super

alfalfa, selenium, spirulina, NAC, Chinese Chlorella, milk thistle, vitamin D3,

Kyolic, serrapeptase.

> Barbara

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Alice,

Would this be the mineral oil they were talking about?

Karin

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selenium, spirulina, NAC, Chinese Chlorella, milk thistle, vitamin D3, Kyolic,

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OH OK

that's interesting--maybe I will try the cheaper one.

gracia

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I have tried the Ancient Minerals magnesium oil, got the big jug. It burns my skin, even when I dilute it with spring water. And I've been at it for months now. I can use it under my arms and on the bottom of my feet and I'm okay. But not on my arms and legs, etc. Even putting it in the bath is not comfortable.I've also tried the magnesium oil from Sunfood, the Wolfe company, and I had absolutely no problem with this product, Magnesium Chloride Hexahydrate, derived from Dead Sea Salt.People say the burning means I am magnesium deficient. But I've made sure to take this internally and externally. I just think the Ancient Minerals product burns me and the other stuff doesn't, for whatever reason. And other people have had this issue as well, not just me. I don't know why, I am not a chemist. But obviously some people just don't

interact well with certain products. The moral of this is make sure to buy the smallest bottle of something to test it first.Bests, Cece On Sat, 11/21/09, Gracia <circe@...> wrote:From: Gracia <circe@...>Subject: Re: Re: magnesiumiodine Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 10:45 AMOH OKthat's interesting--maybe I will try the cheaper one.graciacheryl_b_1 wrote:>>> The magneticclay mag chloride and the Swanson Mag oil have almost the > same wording on their ads... It's mined from deep underground at the > site of the ancient Zechstein Sea in The Netherlands.>> Most likely both companies buy the product from the same supplier and > put their own

labels. Big price difference tho!>> Cheryl>> > >> > I use the mag chloride from http://www.magneticclay.com > <http://www.magneticclay.com>> > gracia>> ------------------------------------

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Just a thought, Japanese natural nigari should work just as well and provide some trace minerals also. It's used to coagulate tofu and is food grade, about $4-$8 a pound, less in bulk. Seems a lot cheaper than any of the health-product oriented " oils " I've seen. You could easily make such an " oil " by heating water, adding the magnesium chloride/nigari to saturation then cooling it. It would cost WAY less than the $29/8oz for some of these magnesium oils...

 

One site that sells nigari says " Nigari is derived from sea water and is the mineral-rich residue that slowly drips off moist sea salt and is then sun-dried. " So it's magnesium chloride from seawater, basically seawater with the sodium removed and still retaining all the other trace minerals. Here's a link to the composition of seawater, so you can see the magnesium being at the top. It is in chloride form although they don't say that. http://www.seafriends.org.nz/oceano/seawater.htm

 

Interestingly the same site that sells it also claims  " Nigari can also be added to water to make nigarisui, which is popular today in Japan for losing weight, purifying the skin, combating fatigue, stress, insomnia, constipation, colds and hang-overs. To make nigarisui dissolve 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon of nigari to 1 liter (33 oz) of natural spring water, shake before drinking. "

I just hate seeing people getting duped into paying 10x or more what something really should cost, if the manufacturers/sellers weren't just seemingly out for a buck.

 

Ellie

 

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I would be interested to know if you find it to be the same. Mainly cause i have

seen this phenomenon in other supplements. And looked into it a bit and the

practice of buying from one supplier with multiple " name " brand labels but

exactly the same ingredients is more common than i would a thought.

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Where do you buy nigari?

From: Nuss <cuarrech@...>iodine Sent: Sat, November 21, 2009 8:44:22 AMSubject: Re: Re: magnesium

Just a thought, Japanese natural nigari should work just as well and provide some trace minerals also. It's used to coagulate tofu and is food grade, about $4-$8 a pound, less in bulk. Seems a lot cheaper than any of the health-product oriented "oils" I've seen. You could easily make such an "oil" by heating water, adding the magnesium chloride/nigari to saturation then cooling it. It would cost WAY less than the $29/8oz for some of these magnesium oils...

One site that sells nigari says "Nigari is derived from sea water and is the mineral-rich residue that slowly drips off moist sea salt and is then sun-dried." So it's magnesium chloride from seawater, basically seawater with the sodium removed and still retaining all the other trace minerals. Here's a link to the composition of seawater, so you can see the magnesium being at the top. It is in chloride form although they don't say that. http://www.seafrien ds.org.nz/ oceano/seawater. htm

Interestingly the same site that sells it also claims "Nigari can also be added to water to make nigarisui, which is popular today in Japan for losing weight, purifying the skin, combating fatigue, stress, insomnia, constipation, colds and hang-overs. To make nigarisui dissolve 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon of nigari to 1 liter (33 oz) of natural spring water, shake before drinking."

I just hate seeing people getting duped into paying 10x or more what something really should cost, if the manufacturers/ sellers weren't just seemingly out for a buck.

Ellie

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Yes, it is from the same site as the magnetic clay people get their magnesiumbut the expert at Swanson said they just take out the magnesium and selljust the magnesium. I do not know for sure but that is what the expert atthe company told me. Call Swanson and ask yourself but do not talk tojust anyone taking orders, ask for an expert on the magnesium product.From: Karin <krmaya@...>Subject: Re: magnesiumiodine Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 9:26 AM

Alice,

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If you live in a big enough town you can buy it at Asian food stores. Ask for nigari or lushui (Chinese name). Otherwise there are a ton of places online to get it.

 

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Our local farmers supply house has magnesium chloride/nigari for approximately $10.00US for 50lbs. By far the cheapest way I've found to buy it and it works just fine as a body spray or internally when mixed with distilled water. Cheers, BNZOn 22/11/2009, at 5:44 AM, Nuss wrote: Just a thought, Japanese natural nigari should work just as well and provide some trace minerals also. It's used to coagulate tofu and is food grade, about $4-$8 a pound, less in bulk. Seems a lot cheaper than any of the health-product oriented "oils" I've seen. You could easily make such an "oil" by heating water, adding the magnesium chloride/nigari to saturation then cooling it. It would cost WAY less than the $29/8oz for some of these magnesium oils... One site that sells nigari says "Nigari is derived from sea water and is the mineral-rich residue that slowly drips off moist sea salt and is then sun-dried." So it's magnesium chloride from seawater, basically seawater with the sodium removed and still retaining all the other trace minerals. Here's a link to the composition of seawater, so you can see the magnesium being at the top. It is in chloride form although they don't say that. http://www.seafriends.org.nz/oceano/seawater.htm Interestingly the same site that sells it also claims "Nigari can also be added to water to make nigarisui, which is popular today in Japan for losing weight, purifying the skin, combating fatigue, stress, insomnia, constipation, colds and hang-overs. To make nigarisui dissolve 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon of nigari to 1 liter (33 oz) of natural spring water, shake before drinking." I just hate seeing people getting duped into paying 10x or more what something really should cost, if the manufacturers/sellers weren't just seemingly out for a buck. Ellie

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Excellent! I'm in Oz, . Do you have a link so I can buy from them?

Thanks, from Gaele.

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Our local farmers supply house has magnesium chloride/nigari for approximately $10.00US for 50lbs. By far the cheapest way I've found to buy it and it works just fine as a body spray or internally when mixed with distilled water.

Cheers, B

NZ

On 22/11/2009, at 5:44 AM, Nuss wrote:

Just a thought, Japanese natural nigari should work just as well and provide some trace minerals also. It's used to coagulate tofu and is food grade, about $4-$8 a pound, less in bulk. Seems a lot cheaper than any of the health-product oriented "oils" I've seen. You could easily make such an "oil" by heating water, adding the magnesium chloride/nigari to saturation then cooling it. It would cost WAY less than the $29/8oz for some of these magnesium oils...

One site that sells nigari says "Nigari is derived from sea water and is the mineral-rich residue that slowly drips off moist sea salt and is then sun-dried." So it's magnesium chloride from seawater, basically seawater with the sodium removed and still retaining all the other trace minerals. Here's a link to the composition of seawater, so you can see the magnesium being at the top. It is in chloride form although they don't say that. http://www.seafriends.org.nz/oceano/seawater.htm

Interestingly the same site that sells it also claims "Nigari can also be added to water to make nigarisui, which is popular today in Japan for losing weight, purifying the skin, combating fatigue, stress, insomnia, constipation, colds and hang-overs. To make nigarisui dissolve 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon of nigari to 1 liter (33 oz) of natural spring water, shake before drinking."

I just hate seeing people getting duped into paying 10x or more what something really should cost, if the manufacturers/sellers weren't just seemingly out for a buck.

Ellie