Magnesium

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That would be great, Mate.

Thanks, from Gaele.

Re: Re: magnesium

It's actually sold for treating farm animals - milking cows etc - hence the large quantity and it's shipped in from Israel.

Cheers, B

NZ

On 23/11/2009, at 7:15 AM, Nuss wrote:

Yeah, that's for fertilizer, right? Or road de-icing? Is it seawater derived food grade nigari? That is a great price.

Ellie

On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Barker <rbarkerclear (DOT) net.nz> wrote:

Our local farmers supply house has magnesium chloride/nigari for approximately $10.00US for 50lbs. By far the cheapest way I've found to buy it and it works just fine as a body spray or internally when mixed with distilled water.

Cheers, B

NZ

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I'm a bit nervous of buying on ebay, especially if I haven't seen the product.

Sadly, not all the sellers have integrity where money's involved.

Thanks, Alice, but I was conned by a Tasmanian!

Gullible, Gaele.

Re: Re: magnesium

I think there is some listed on ebay or there was at one time.

Our local farmers supply house has magnesium chloride/nigari for approximately $10.00US for 50lbs. By far the cheapest way I've found to buy it and it works just fine as a body spray or internally when mixed with distilled water.

Cheers, B

NZ

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I do not understand the whole Iodine, or Magnesium thing and am just reading more veryday to try and understand more.

How does one know if ones body requires Iodine or Magnesium? Does one need a blood test?

Whenever I have a CT with contrast a few days later I get an horrific rash, now I have learned that if I start drinking lots of liquds , mostly water, as soon as the CT is over I will not get the rash. I have had the rash so bad I have had to go back to the dr. a couple of times. This makes me wonder if I am allergic to Iodine. I do not know what type of iodne is used in the contrast as opposed to what one takes inernally. I read so much about the need for Iodine, but don't know if my body can handle it.

The dr's say it is NOT an allergy because if it was the rash would be more instant, but I know better. I know my body and I know when it ocucrs and always with a couple of days after the CT.

I get a CT once a year to test for more tumors. So far so good, but this year will be the true test as I have quit taking the hormone therapy my oncologist has had me on for three years.

Barbara N Germany

From: HART518@... <HART518@...>Subject: Re: Re: magnesiumiodine Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 11:28 PM

i know there has been lots of talk about magnesium. I know I do need it daily and it does help me but i still struggle a lot and was wondering what are some dosages that you take. I am afraid to take too much oral magnesium. I have not ever taken more than about 1200 mgs. in one day and usually less than that per day but was wondering if anyone takes more and if it can be helpful to take more. I know the more magnesium I take the better i do feel. ofcourse i take it along with calcium and other things also. and we are supposed to separate the calcium and magnesium from when we take our iodine correct? thanks,

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I just received a new LeCreuset cooking pot from eBay for $25. It was perfect.I have never been disappointed.

Our local farmers supply house has magnesium chloride/nigari for approximately $10.00US for 50lbs. By far the cheapest way I've found to buy it and it works just fine as a body spray or internally when mixed with distilled water.

Cheers, B

NZ

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I bought three new "humane mouse traps" from a Tasmanian seller.

They cost me $67, and they've never caught a Queensland mouse.

We get plagues of rodents in this rural community, so there were

plenty of the dirty little critters to be caught. But none ever were.

Damned disappointed, Gaele.

Re: Re: magnesium

I just received a new LeCreuset cooking pot from eBay for $25. It was perfect.I have never been disappointed.

Our local farmers supply house has magnesium chloride/nigari for approximately $10.00US for 50lbs. By far the cheapest way I've found to buy it and it works just fine as a body spray or internally when mixed with distilled water.

Cheers, B

NZ

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But did you tell them it was for Queensland mice?

Bruce

Re: Re: magnesium

I just received a new LeCreuset cooking pot from eBay for $25. It was perfect.I have never been disappointed.

Our local farmers supply house has magnesium chloride/nigari for approximately $10.00US for 50lbs. By far the cheapest way I've found to buy it and it works just fine as a body spray or internally when mixed with distilled water.

Cheers, B

NZ

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LOL. I certainly did. The vendor didn't advise me that Tassie mice were inbred.

Smiling through my pain, Gaele.

Re: Re: magnesium

I just received a new LeCreuset cooking pot from eBay for $25. It was perfect.I have never been disappointed.

Our local farmers supply house has magnesium chloride/nigari for approximately $10.00US for 50lbs. By far the cheapest way I've found to buy it and it works just fine as a body spray or internally when mixed with distilled water.

Cheers, B

NZ

[Guest guest]



See, this is actually on topic. Tasmanian mice are iodine deficient, so they get caught easily as they have brain fog due to lack of iodine...

Bruce

Re: Re: magnesium

 LOL. I certainly did. The vendor didn't advise me that Tassie mice were inbred.

Smiling through my pain, Gaele.

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Maybe we can swap? Queensland mice are way too smart for me...

Gaele.

Re: Re: magnesium

 LOL. I certainly did. The vendor didn't advise me that Tassie mice were inbred.

Smiling through my pain, Gaele.

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Thanks, Bruce. Looks like a good form to take.

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> It's hard to tell how much one absorbs, perhaps just use more.

> Vit D, I use drops from seroyal - d mulsion 1000. search google easy to find.

> 1,000 iu drop. I take 4-5/day

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[Guest guest]

Keep reading everything on this site, including links.Get the book Iodine for

life, lots of valuable info. I am not a big one for tests. So, obviously you can

do the iodine loading test.Another way would be to start taking iodine,

50-75mgs/day.If you are deficient, this would probably cause you to de-tox the

bromide and you would have a delayed reaction.Say,...a rash several days

later!i.e. You can deduce that you have already 'tested' yourself, and need to

get on the protocol. Just my opinion,,,Jim

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> i know there has been lots of talk about magnesium. I know I do need it daily

and it does help me but i still struggle a lot and was wondering what are some

dosages that you take. I am afraid to take too much oral magnesium. I have not

ever taken more than about 1200 mgs. in one day and usually less than that per

day but was wondering if anyone takes more and if it can be helpful to take

more. I know the more magnesium I take the better i do feel. ofcourse i take it

along with calcium and other things also. and we are supposed to separate the

calcium and magnesium from when we take our iodine correct?  thanks,

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Barbara,

The best book on Magnesium which is fairly comprehensive is called The Magnesium Miracle

by Dr Carolyn Dean MD.

All your magnesium questions will be answered there and many you didn't know about.

Its an easy read and well written.

Magnesium is essential for hundreds of chemical reactions in the body. Lack of magnesium

gives rise to a host of disorders. Many more than I could list now.

Bruce gave a refernce to a site where it is possible to read much of the book for free>

For me magnesium got tid of my back pain and sciatica in two days. No drugs no

adverse effects, very low cost..

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From: HART518aol (DOT) com <HART518aol (DOT) com>Subject: Re: Re: magnesiumiodinegroups (DOT) comDate: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 11:28 PM

i know there has been lots of talk about magnesium. I know I do need it daily and it does help me but i still struggle a lot and was wondering what are some dosages that you take. I am afraid to take too much oral magnesium. I have not ever taken more than about 1200 mgs. in one day and usually less than that per day but was wondering if anyone takes more and if it can be helpful to take more. I know the more magnesium I take the better i do feel. ofcourse i take it along with calcium and other things also. and we are supposed to separate the calcium and magnesium from when we take our iodine correct? thanks,

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Thank you and to everyone else who responded. I just ordered the book, The Magnesium Miracle but one more queston: is there a particular book on Iodine I should read. I seem to buy 5-6 books a month on health. Amazon likes me:-) I am learning a lot.

But this is a person who always beleved whatever the dr's told me and followed thier advice and thought evryone else was nuts.

Of course if I knew even what I know today as new as I am to altrnative care and after reading all these books that keeps Amaon in busness I wouldn't have had surgery in the first place. But what's done is done. I have stopped my hormone threapy for the cancer cells which has my friends and family in uproar. I m not 100%

following anything, but my eating habits have improved so much. I used to laugh at vegeterians

because I felt they were missing out on so much (and I still like my occasional piece of meat)

and then raw food. I thought these people were nuts, but the more I read and the more I study I come to realize the only person nuts if me.

Now I usually start the day with a salad in the vita mixer (something I bought years ago and not

for nutrition). I think I am blessed (I don't believe in luck) in that I have always loved fruits and vegetables or my health would in worse condition.

I am working on it, getting there, enjoying the raw foods. I even had shredded zucchini for spaghetti and loved it. I bought several books on vegeterian cooking and on raw food preparation. I stll don't know what some of it is. I am not a good cook, don't like cooking and don't really have a lot of time for it. Buying new pots and pans for Christmas is a new start. I am thinking of taking a cookng class and something on raw food prep if I can find one in English while I am stll in Germany.

Anyone know where you can get wheatgrass. I read about how good it is for you, but have never seen it for sale. There is someone on this list or on another one that recommended several books lke

Bernard Jensen, and the raw food and some others and I bought them all and have learned so much, but he more I learn, the more I realize I have so much more to learn. So I am trying to put into use

what I do know and keep learning.

I appreciate this list and all of the wonderful people who willingly contribute their knowledge.

Thanks for sharing.

Barbara N Germany

From: HART518aol (DOT) com <HART518aol (DOT) com>Subject: Re: Re: magnesiumiodinegroups (DOT) comDate: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 11:28 PM

i know there has been lots of talk about magnesium. I know I do need it daily and it does help me but i still struggle a lot and was wondering what are some dosages that you take. I am afraid to take too much oral magnesium. I have not ever taken more than about 1200 mgs. in one day and usually less than that per day but was wondering if anyone takes more and if it can be helpful to take more. I know the more magnesium I take the better i do feel. ofcourse i take it along with calcium and other things also. and we are supposed to separate the calcium and magnesium from when we take our iodine correct? thanks,

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Barb

If you search for growing wheatgrass there are a lot of good sites showing

how to do so at home. Even on youtube there are good ones..

Bruce

Re: Re: magnesium

Anyone know where you can get wheatgrass. I read about how good it is for

you, but have never seen it for sale. There is someone on this list or on

another one that recommended several books lke

Bernard Jensen, and the raw food and some others and I bought them all and

have learned so much, but he more I learn, the more I realize I have so

much more to learn. So I am trying to put into use

what I do know and keep learning.

I appreciate this list and all of the wonderful people who willingly

contribute their knowledge.

Thanks for sharing.

Barbara N Germany

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Jim,

Thanks for the info your provided.

I went to amazon.com but didn't find the book on iodine your recommended.

What Iodine should I take and where does one buy it?

Also, are you sayng that the rash that I get from the Iodine in the CT scan is an indicator

of being defcient in Iodine?

I know I am full of questions.

thanks,

Barbara N Germany

From: dutchdivco <jdutchmanjim@...>Subject: Re: magnesiumiodine Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 3:51 PM

Keep reading everything on this site, including links.Get the book Iodine for life, lots of valuable info. I am not a big one for tests. So, obviously you can do the iodine loading test.Another way would be to start taking iodine, 50-75mgs/day.If you are deficient, this would probably cause you to de-tox the bromide and you would have a delayed reaction.Say,...a rash several days later!i.e. You can deduce that you have already 'tested' yourself, and need to get on the protocol. Just my opinion,,,Jim> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>------------------------------------

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, I've tried a few different kinds of Magnesium and really like the

Magnesium Chloride by ALTA Health Products. I'm thyroidless, have had RAI

(Raido Active Iodine) and am doing the Iodine (Iodoral) Protocol. Hope this

helps you!

Sincerely, Sandi B.

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> I am confused about the form of magnesium that I should be using. Most sites

that I view that list the companion nutrients state the following:

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> " 300-600 mg magnesium oxide or comparable magnesium supplement "

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> I have been taking 400mg of the mag oxide. Some seem to say that taking mag

oxide may not be meeting our need for magnesium. I know magnesium is very

important and I am trying to follow the iodine protocol closely and not reinvent

the wheel here. Thanks in advance,

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[Guest guest]

Sandi, How much mag chloride do you take? Thanks for the insight.

From: ptb_1952 <ptb_1952@...>iodine Sent: Thu, December 17, 2009 6:31:39 PMSubject: Re: magnesium

, I've tried a few different kinds of Magnesium and really like the Magnesium Chloride by ALTA Health Products. I'm thyroidless, have had RAI (Raido Active Iodine) and am doing the Iodine (Iodoral) Protocol. Hope this helps you!Sincerely, Sandi B.>> I am confused about the form of magnesium that I should be using. Most sites that I view that list the companion nutrients state the following:> > "300-600 mg magnesium oxide or comparable magnesium supplement"> > I have been taking 400mg of the mag oxide. Some seem to say that taking mag oxide may not be meeting our need for magnesium. I know magnesium is very important and I am trying to follow the iodine protocol closely and not reinvent the wheel here. Thanks

in advance, >

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, I start with 1 tab with my morning supplements and then take 1 more each

time I need one (usually no more that a total of 4/day). If I'm not feeling

sleepy and ready to zonk at bedtime, I take 1.

We're getting snowed in here in land! Hope your day's wonderful!

Sandi B.

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> > I am confused about the form of magnesium that I should be using. Most sites

that I view that list the companion nutrients state the following:

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> > " 300-600 mg magnesium oxide or comparable magnesium supplement "

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> > I have been taking 400mg of the mag oxide. Some seem to say that taking mag

oxide may not be meeting our need for magnesium. I know magnesium is very

important and I am trying to follow the iodine protocol closely and not reinvent

the wheel here. Thanks in advance,

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Hi

http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/food/calcium-foods.htm

http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/food/magnesium-foods.htm

http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/food/potassium-foods.htm

Lilian put this source of data up, a couple of years ago.

the general advice is to take your thyroid meds away from foods high in calcium

.......but as you can see, that also includes quite a lot of magnesium...

of the two or more reasons to avoid high intake of calcium at the same time as

your thyroid meds, the 'binding' of the thyroxine to calcium 'salts' would

prevent absorbtion; in some respects magnesium ought not to be quite so bad as

calcium, but it will be included with many foods ~ also high in calcium.

Hence, the best advice is to avoid food(s) at the same times as your thyroxine (

and/or NDT ).

's Home Lab Experiment was carried out some five or more years ago and she

was well able to tolerate thyroid meds at night ( thyroxine or NDT ).

Dutch workers repeated this experimeent on a small scale, a year or so back and

recommended the addition of T3 ( slow release ) at night time to mimic the

circadian rhythm of TSH/T4/T3 release overnight.

This would obviate the problem of food in the morning, too close to thyroid

meds.

I managed to find a source of light magnesium carbonate to add to acidic drinks

so that I could expect to absorb more 'soluble' magnesium when I did decide I

needed to add some extra magnesium to my 'diet'.

A while back, it was estimated that about half of people with adverse cardiac

events showed no signs of atherosclerosis at post mortem.

Hypothyroid folk tend to loose magnesium from their 'hypoxic' cells, whilst

hyperthyroid people tend to need more to cope with the enhanced metabolism

required in cells that are 'overstimulated'.

During the transition from hypo- to hyperthyroidism, there is a point of quite

high danger when the cells start to 'demand' far more magnesium than is easily

available from the blood stream.

Both potassium and magnesium are needed at that point to readjust the cell

content of electrolytes in favour of higher a metabolic rate ( more potassium

and magnesium and less sodium ).

best wishes

Bob

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> Hi. Does anyone know itssafe to take magnesium vit even know I am t4 and t3

I'm worried it may interfere with my meds I take b complex and I'm ok but unsure

of mag.

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Hi , Yes it's fine, but as a principle don't take vitamins and minerals at the same time as thyroid meds as some- can interfere with thyroid hormone absorption- especially calcium. > thyroid treatment > From: rachel_kijowski@...> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 22:38:53 +0000> Subject: Magnesium> > Hi. Does anyone know itssafe to take magnesium vit even know I am t4 and t3 I'm worried it may interfere with my meds I take b complex and I'm ok but unsure of mag.> > Thanks> > > > > ------------------------------------> > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication.> >

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Yup both magnesium and vitamin C in large doses can create the diarrhea you are experiencing. Each spray is about 16mg so however many you think you need. PamOn Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 9:33 AM, S <housershouse@...> wrote:

 

I have only been on Iodine for two weeks. I have had off and on diarrhea. I take 500 mg of chelated magnesium a day. Could this be causing the problem. I'm thinking of switching to the Swanson spray. If so how many squirts would I need.

Thanks,

sue

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Thanks Pam,I guess I need to back off on the C too.Sue

I have only been on Iodine for two weeks. I have had off and on diarrhea. I take 500 mg of chelated magnesium a day. Could this be causing the problem. I'm thinking of switching to the Swanson spray. If so how many squirts would I need.

Thanks,

sue

[Guest guest]

Try stopping the magnesium and see how it goes. Magnesium and Vit C can both cause diarrhea.

Steph

Magnesium

I have only been on Iodine for two weeks. I have had off and on diarrhea. I take 500 mg of chelated magnesium a day. Could this be causing the problem. I'm thinking of switching to the Swanson spray. If so how many squirts would I need.Thanks,sue

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Just split up the doses. Taking it all at once can have that effect. I just add mine to my water and have no problems. PamOn Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 9:56 AM, sue houser <housershouse@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Pam,I guess I need to back off on the C too.Sue

 

I have only been on Iodine for two weeks. I have had off and on diarrhea. I take 500 mg of chelated magnesium a day. Could this be causing the problem. I'm thinking of switching to the Swanson spray. If so how many squirts would I need.

Thanks,

sue

[Guest guest]

Pam, is that 16mg to the skin? or actually into the blood? Jim

From: Pamela Valley <2007pams@...>iodine Sent: Mon, August 23, 2010 12:52:14 PMSubject: Re: Magnesium

Yup both magnesium and vitamin C in large doses can create the diarrhea you are experiencing. Each spray is about 16mg so however many you think you need. Pam

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 9:33 AM, S <housershouse@...> wrote:

I have only been on Iodine for two weeks. I have had off and on diarrhea. I take 500 mg of chelated magnesium a day. Could this be causing the problem. I'm thinking of switching to the Swanson spray. If so how many squirts would I need.Thanks,sue