Guest guest Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Here are some instructions. http://www.ancient-minerals.com/ancient-minerals-instructions.pdf Joan > > I have only been on Iodine for two weeks. I have had off and on diarrhea. I take 500 mg of chelated magnesium a day. Could this be causing the problem. I'm thinking of switching to the Swanson spray. If so how many squirts would I need. > Thanks, > sue > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Sue, What is your main complaint that may have to do with magnesium? Loose stool, or diarreah is a common one, not sure how to handle that besides cutting the doses down and making them more frequent instead. > > > > I have only been on Iodine for two weeks. I have had off and on diarrhea. I take 500 mg of chelated magnesium a day. Could this be causing the problem. I'm thinking of switching to the Swanson spray. If so how many squirts would I need. > > Thanks, > > sue > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 magnesium glycinate is easier for the gut On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 2:39 PM, light <lauralight1972@...> wrote: Sue,What is your main complaint that may have to do with magnesium? Loose stool, or diarreah is a common one, not sure how to handle that besides cutting the doses down and making them more frequent instead. > >> > I have only been on Iodine for two weeks. I have had off and on diarrhea. I take 500 mg of chelated magnesium a day. Could this be causing the problem. I'm thinking of switching to the Swanson spray. If so how many squirts would I need. > > Thanks,> > sue> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Thanks,I just read up on magnesium glycinate and I will give it a try.Sue Sue,What is your main complaint that may have to do with magnesium? Loose stool, or diarreah is a common one, not sure how to handle that besides cutting the doses down and making them more frequent instead. > >> > I have only been on Iodine for two weeks. I have had off and on diarrhea. I take 500 mg of chelated magnesium a day. Could this be causing the problem. I'm thinking of switching to the Swanson spray. If so how many squirts would I need. > > Thanks,> > sue> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 With the mag glycinate I'm able to take 800mg of elemental mag a day. Very very good. With other forms I can barely take 400mg without gut issues. -- At 09:08 AM 8/25/2010, you wrote: >Thanks, >I just read up on magnesium glycinate and I will give it a try. > >Sue > > > >From: ido zahavi <zahavi100@...> >Subject: Re: Re: Magnesium >iodine >Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 9:46 AM > > > >magnesium glycinate is easier for the gut ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 I think I looked at several stores in OR and never found it. I had to settle for citrate. > > > > > > > > I have only been on Iodine for two weeks. I have had off and on > > diarrhea. I take 500 mg of chelated magnesium a day. Could this be causing > > the problem. I'm thinking of switching to the Swanson spray. If so how many > > squirts would I need. > > > > Thanks, > > > > sue > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 It is hard to estimate the amounts you get from food. Magnesium is needed in over 400 enzyme reactions in the body. There are many things that deplete it. That is why transdermal works well. If your gut is not healthy then you will not absorb it well. 400 mgs is the bare minimum recommended. Steph Magnesium Does the magnesium have to be right on? (amount I mean ) How important is it ? I take it mainly from food source then a bit from supplememnts.Best, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 Basically many of us are suffering from magnesium deficiency so looking on this list will give you a better idea of whether you are doing enough to change that for your own body. Seems simpler to fix the missing nutrients than get involved with all the RX scripts that are handed out if you fall somewhere on this list. Pam What are some Signs of Magnesium Deficiency... So lets see what these magnesium deficiency symptoms look like: ConstipationHypertension or high blood pressureAnxietyDepressionInsomniaFatigue Sound like anyone that you know?? It's practically the definition of all of the Symptoms of Fibromyalgia! Even the epidemic of High Cholesterol is related to magnesium deficiency. The millions of prescriptions for the dangerous cholesterol lowering 'Statin' Drugs could be drastically decreased if doctors were to use Natural Cholesterol Lowering Strategies like magnesium before handing out drugs with sometimes devastating side effects. Even some so-called 'Side Effects' of substances are actually due to the Magnesium Depletion that they cause- and are not really 'side effects' in and of themselves. For instance, you should ALWAYS take Magnesium and Vitamin D together to avoid any of the Vitamin D Side Effects that are (almost always) due to low magnesium!! Pain as one of the Signs of Magnesium Deficiency Painful conditions can be due to magnesium deficiency. Especially conditions that are due to tenseness and tightness- even if you don't know that you are tense or tight, if you have these pain conditions, it's likely that you are. Conditions like: Muscle CrampsChronic Back PainMagnesium for Migraines Muscular PainTendonitis ANYTHING that makes you tense and tight could potentially be due to magnesium deficiency. Even anger, aggression, ADHD, insomnia and obsessive compulsive disorder are Signs of Magnesium Deficiency until proven otherwise. If you can’t relax or you can’t stop, then it is likely that this is a symptom of magnesium deficiency. " Similarly, patients with diagnoses of depression, epilepsy, diabetes mellitus, tremor, Parkinsonism,arrhythmias, circulatory disturbances (stroke, cardiacinfarction, arteriosclerosis), hypertension, migraine, cluster headache, cramps, neuro-vegetative disorders,abdominal pain, osteoporosis, asthma, stress dependentdisorders, tinnitus, ataxia, confusion, preeclampsia,weakness, might also be consequences of the magnesium deficiency syndrome. " About the Misdiagnosis of Magnesium Deficiency A good formula for you to remember is that it takes Calcium to make muscles contract and it takes Magnesium to make muscles relax. Health Problems are Signs of Magnesium Deficiency too... Full blown health problems, and not just minor problems, can ALSO be magnesium deficiency symptoms- and most people with health problems benefit greatly from a high Magnesium Dosage therapy. Diseases such as: Heart Disease Atrial Fibrillation Hypertension or high blood pressure Heart Palpitations Osteoporosis (yes, osteoporosis! See the page on Calcium With Magnesium to see why magnesium is MORE important than calcium for bone health.) Diabetes Sudden Death in patients with Congestive Heart Failure Fibromyalgia and Magnesium Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Kidney Stones Read more: http://www.easy-immune-health.com/signs-of-magnesium-deficiency.html#ixzz1BRJpZaTW On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 2:24 PM, <r_long@...> wrote: Does the magnesium have to be right on? (amount I mean ) How important is it ? I take it mainly from food source then a bit from supplememnts. Best, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 Pamela, Thank you very much ! Very useful information ! Didn't know most of it. > > > > > > > Does the magnesium have to be right on? (amount I mean ) How important is > > it ? I take it mainly from food source then a bit from supplememnts. > > > > Best, > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 When I was low on magnesium, I tried epsom salt baths for 3 years daily and made no headway according to blood tests with very low magnesium. That isn't good for the body as the body tries to keep the cells in good shape by making available to the blood if you have the nutrient. Even healing my gut didn't make enough difference. It took the transdermal or on the skin in addition to whatever amounts I get from foods and calcium/magnesium citrate supplements. I am still low in magnesium even with 400mg of skin magesium daily so my body just uses a lot fighting muscle aches and pains from RA, FM and 2 drunk drivers who rear ended me. So some of us have higher needs than others. Pam On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:44 PM, ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...> wrote: It is hard to estimate the amounts you get from food. Magnesium is needed in over 400 enzyme reactions in the body. There are many things that deplete it. That is why transdermal works well. If your gut is not healthy then you will not absorb it well. 400 mgs is the bare minimum recommended. Steph Magnesium Does the magnesium have to be right on? (amount I mean ) How important is it ? I take it mainly from food source then a bit from supplememnts.Best, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 I am curious about transdermal. How does that work ? what is the product ? magnesium oil ? I went out and bought a small pouch of Magnesium chloride yesterday. I took about 500mg and I fell asleep for 3 hours. Is magnesium chloride a good choice ? Is Magnesium taurine that much better than the others ? Finest Regards, > > > > > > > It is hard to estimate the amounts you get from food. Magnesium is needed > > in over 400 enzyme reactions in the body. There are many things that > > deplete it. That is why transdermal works well. If your gut is not healthy > > then you will not absorb it well. 400 mgs is the bare minimum recommended. > > > > > > Steph > > > > > > > > * Magnesium > > > > > > > > Does the magnesium have to be right on? (amount I mean ) How important is > > it ? I take it mainly from food source then a bit from supplememnts. > > > > Best, > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 The skin is a large absorption organ. Those with bad guts can sometimes absorb more through the skin. I use Ancient Minerals www.magneticclay.com Each spray is approx 18 mgs. You can listen to Dr. Sircus on the therapy here http://www.archive.org/details/Transdermal_Magnesium_Interview_with_Mark_Sircus He has a book you can find on Amazon - Transdermal Magnesium Therapy Here is Dr. Sircus website http://magnesiumforlife.com/ There are some cheaper forms of Magnesium Oil (Magnesium Chloride) but I am concerned with purity and the Ancient Minerals are clean. Steph * Magnesium> >> >> >> > Does the magnesium have to be right on? (amount I mean ) How important is> > it ? I take it mainly from food source then a bit from supplememnts.> >> > Best,> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Thank you Steph, The mag chloride is from a health food store and its for internal use. If its pure enough for internal use it must be pure enough for trans-dermal use ? Best, > > > > > > > > > > > It is hard to estimate the amounts you get from food. Magnesium is needed > > > in over 400 enzyme reactions in the body. There are many things that > > > deplete it. That is why transdermal works well. If your gut is not healthy > > > then you will not absorb it well. 400 mgs is the bare minimum recommended. > > > > > > > > > Steph > > > > > > > > > > > > * Magnesium > > > > > > > > > > > > Does the magnesium have to be right on? (amount I mean ) How important is > > > it ? I take it mainly from food source then a bit from supplememnts. > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 ,How do you know your are getting it from food? Are you getting enough?From: <r_long@...>iodine Sent: Tue, 18 January, 2011 22:24:53Subject: Magnesium Does the magnesium have to be right on? (amount I mean ) How important is it ? I take it mainly from food source then a bit from supplememnts. Best, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 What you can eat you can put on your skin. Steph * Magnesium> > >> > >> > >> > > Does the magnesium have to be right on? (amount I mean ) How important is> > > it ? I take it mainly from food source then a bit from supplememnts.> > >> > > Best,> > >> > > > > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Hello , I get 250 mg from my daily Concentrace which is, in my mind, a food. Add about 40 mg from my multi supplement. I used to take a Tbs of Organic Black Strop Molasses, however, someone mentioned it may have a yeast of some kind. So I stopped. Although, I must say the BSM seemed to give me better health and sleep. The BSM had a decent amount of magnesium and potassium in it as well. Best, > > , > How do you know your are getting it from food? Are you getting enough? > > > > > ________________________________ > From: <r_long@...> > iodine > Sent: Tue, 18 January, 2011 22:24:53 > Subject: Magnesium > > > Does the magnesium have to be right on? (amount I mean ) How important is it ? I > take it mainly from food source then a bit from supplememnts. > > Best, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 I'm not a believer in this idea that all yeasts are bad for people. In fact, there are yeasts in our gut that are part of the probiotics. http://www.suite101.com/content/saccharomyces-boulardiithe-yeast-probiotic-a8460\ 2 If you like how you feel with BSM, I don't think hypothetical yeast is a reason not to have it. -- > I get 250 mg from my daily Concentrace which is, in my mind, a food. > Add about 40 mg from my multi supplement. I used to take a Tbs of Organic > Black Strop Molasses, however, someone mentioned it may have a yeast of > some kind. So I stopped. Although, I must say the BSM seemed to give me > better health and sleep. The BSM had a decent amount of magnesium and > potassium in it as well. > > Best, > > > > > > , > > How do you know your are getting it from food? Are you getting enough? > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: <r_long@...> > > iodine > > Sent: Tue, 18 January, 2011 22:24:53 > > Subject: Magnesium > > > > > > Does the magnesium have to be right on? (amount I mean ) How important > is it ? I > > take it mainly from food source then a bit from supplememnts. > > > > Best, > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT >group IodineOT/ > > >Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 Thanks very much for this very useful information. I tested low on rbc magnesium. I can't tolerate much in the form of oral supplementation as it goes straight through me, so have been using magnesium oil. It says on the bottle that you can tell when your levels are recovering because you stop getting itchy when using it. I've used a whole bottle over a few months and it still makes me really itchy, so I'm wondering if I'm still deficient. I'm low in calcium and vit d and supplement for both, so I'm guessing that makes my need for magnesium even higher, from what I've read. Do you think I should up my dose? Susie x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 Hi Mandy, Low magnesium can upset the heart rate. If it gets too low it can also cause what's known as Long Q-T gap. That condition can lead to cardiac arrhythmia and in the extreme it can be a cause of morbidity or mortality. In low potassium (Hypokalemia), replacing the potassium when the magnesium is low will provoke cardiac dysfunction. It is necessary to increase the magnesium supply at the same time that potassium is being given, but preferably, beforehand. Consult a cardiologist for confirmation of appropriate treatment for either low potassium or low magnesium and especially, if both are low. Hypothyroidism or hyperthyroidism can raise or lower the blood magnesium level. In hyperthyroidism, the increased metabolism requires more potassium (and more magnesium) to create a larger 'driving force' for more energy output from the cell. In hypothyroidism, the magnesium is released from the cell because the energy output is lower (and becomes hypoxic). Eventually, this magnesium will leak away through the kidneys, since there is no conservation mechanism in the kidneys such as would conserve sodium in a correctly working organ. Hence, if the body has been deficient in magnesium for some time, it will require sustained effort to recover the capacity to 'work harder' ~ by supplementing with magnesium ~ light magnesium carbonate is the cheapest source and dissolves easily, even in carbonic acid; one of the mildest acids. best wishes Bob > > Hi everyone - thought this was worth posting re contraindications re this marvellous mineral and a few good tips. > > It's impossible for me to forget magnesium. Me too!! (Bob) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 Do you have a link to source this information please Mandy? Luv - Sheila Hi everyone - thought this was worth posting re contraindications re this marvellous mineral and a few good tips. It's impossible for me to forget magnesium. Every day I talk about it with my clients. Just yesterday a new client said he was appalled that during his 15 years of suffering a serious magnesium deficiency condition no doctors had ever mentioned this mineral. Also in his world as an athlete and personal trainer he had never come across information indicating the significance of magnesium in the diet. A frequent question I get is how to know if you are taking enough magnesium. One blog reader said she has tried several different forms of magnesium (including taurate, glycinate, and citrate), waited 3 months before having her Mg-RBC re-tested, but regardless of what form she tries, her magnesium levels do not increase. However, her mild case of Mitral Valve Prolapse is no longer evident, which indicates the magnesium must be having an effect. MVP is causes by a valve that doesn't close properly and is related to magnesium deficiency. I tell my clients that it can take 6 months to a year to build up their depleted magnesium stores. If magnesium is helping to remove symptoms I just tell them to keep taking it and eventually the RBC blood tests will catch up. A few individuals actually feel worse when they first take magnesium. This is mostly caused by taking too much magnesium too soon in a body that's very depleted. If you are run down and exhausted and feel you are very magnesium deficient, start taking very small amounts of magnesium, like 50 mg a day of magnesium citrate powder in water to slowly get your body used to taking this high octane fuel. We know that taking Vitamin D can utilize more magnesium in the body. We will probably find the same for other supplements. They all work together and as one nutrient stimulates the body to more activity it requires more nutrients to do its work. So, if you take high doses magnesium you can uncover deficiencies of other nutrients as they are called into action to work with magnesium. There are four major conditions where magnesium is contraindicated so taking magnesium with these conditions can make you feel worse. 1. Kidney failure. 2. Myasthenia gravis. 3. Excessively slow heart rate. 4. Bowel obstruction. best wishes Mandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 Hi Sheila, Here it is http://drcarolyndean.com/ Best wishes Mandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 Hi Susie, You should not have itchy skin taking magnesium - sometimes itchy skin can mean kidney implications - it might mean that you are not metabolising it correctly. I wouldn't up your dose but lower it - although can you tell me how much you are taking i.e. the mg equivalent. I will do some research and see what may be causing this and come back to you. You might be causing your cal/mg.D balance to be out or what you are taking is not helping but aggravating it. Best wishes Mandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 Hi Bob Thanks for this - I was dangerously low when I first got ill - and the electrical impulses supplied by magnesium to the neurological system were not getting through to my muscles - so everything went haywire - it was like a living nightmare. I lifted a pint of milk out of the fridge and my tendon snapped - my muscle strength went into reverse mode - ie. things snapped when I picked things up because they were in the relax mode and vice versa my ribs were moving around inside my chest (low zinc) my clavacle separated and piggy backed over another bone in my shoulder whilst I was asleep I just woke up and found a lump in my shoulder. It was an awful time - when I was ill I showed textbook deficiency symptoms on vitamins and minerals including the beginning of scurvy - a scar I had started to elongate - it was a miracle that because I study nutrition I knew what was going on in all cases and supplemented my way out of these deficiencies but it was frightening - really frightening and I am lucky to be here. Best wishes Mandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 Carolyn Dean's book on magnesium is brilliant - that's what started me thinking about magnesium. Susie > > Hi Sheila, > > Here it is > > http://drcarolyndean.com/ > > Best wishes > > Mandy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 hi Mandy Thanks so much for your concern and help. I'm using magnesium oil, which is applied to the skin. It itches straight away, so I think it's my skin reacting, not my kidneys, though I totally appreciate where you're coming from on that one. It actually says on the bottle: 'May cause a tingling sensation on first usage. This will pass as mineral levels increase.' Not sure whether that covers itchiness or not. The dose is 10 sprays twice a day, which is equivalent to 360mg magnesium. I've actually not been having as much as that. I suppose it might just be because my skin is very dry anyway. The thing is, I don't know what other type of magnesium to take, as any I've tried orally have given me the runs. The symptom I'm most concerned about is my tachycardia, which is what led me to investigate magnesium. The cardio has ruled out anything being wrong with my heart. I'm well aware that this could also be caused by other things I've got going on, namely, low ferritin, hypot and fatigued adrenals, but I wanted to address all points. Thanks Susie > > Hi Susie, > > You should not have itchy skin taking magnesium - sometimes itchy skin can > mean kidney implications - it might mean that you are not metabolising it > correctly. I wouldn't up your dose but lower it - although can you tell me > how much you are taking i.e. the mg equivalent. > > I will do some research and see what may be causing this and come back to > you. > > You might be causing your cal/mg.D balance to be out or what you are taking > is not helping but aggravating it. > > Best wishes > > Mandy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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