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Hello -

When I was first getting treated for my fatigue

beginning in 1998, thyroid problems were the first

things I was tested for. They discovered I was

hypothyoroid and had an autoimmune antibody

(Hashimoto's Thyroiditis). I was put on 1.0 grain (60

mg) of Armour thyroid daily. My energy improved

dramatically at first, but then leveled off. Like

many others, this was just a small piece of the CFIDS

puzzle for me. The symptoms that did go away were

hives, puffy face, brittle and dry hair, hair falling

out, low body temp, and very cold hands and feet.

Best, Jennie

Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:50:56 -0500

From: " Tania & " <fe38@...>

Subject: Re: Hypothyroid ?

Hypothyriod function can cause CFS-like symptoms. It

was a piece of

the puzzle for me although certainly not the whole

problem. I think the

doctor you're referring to is Dr . You may want

to visit the

extensive website www.wilsonssyndrome.com I have been

able to increase my

body temperature with the help of a doctor versed in

wilson's syndrome.

Good luck. Tania

Hypothyroid ?

Has anyone taken thyroid medication?and there cfs

symptoms got

better?My thyroid tests have always been within

normal limits,but I

always had the symptoms,like afternoon temp. of

97.5,cold

extremities,and worst of all fatigue.Would like to

hear from

others,with same problems.I forget the name of the

Dr.who says

testing body temp.is the most accurate test.

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> Hi,

> I was diagnosed with chronic thyreoditis and treated for

hypothyroidism few years ago (after the onset of CFIDS).

> Before I started levothyroxine my test results were: TSH 10,61

T3 1,07 and T4 8,7.

> My dr. is satisfied with them and when I complained that I was

feeling much worse than during summer (I felt near normal in summer)

she didn't think it might be caused by thyroid gland.

>

Hi,

I remember seeing a report recently, but can't remember where, that

said at least some of us produce less thyroid hormones in the winter

than we do in the summer. I share you decreased wellness in the

winter and wonder if we require less supplements in the summer than we

do in the winter.

B

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Stania,

Thanks for the information. It sounds to me as though you have a

pretty good understanding of your thyroid situation. It seems that

paying attention to how you feel and what symptoms you have can be a

better guide to adjusting your supplemental thyroid hormone than

whether the measured numbers are exactly in the ranges considered

normal. I have heard this from many people.

Rich

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Stania,

I think that many PWCs are operating in a condition of glutathione

depletion. Glutathione depletion causes partial blockades to occur in

the Krebs cycle, and this produces fatigue. Both emotional stress and

infection place additional demands on glutathione, drawing it down

further. I think this is what ties all these things together.

Thyroid hormones can help in some PWCs by increasing the production of

enzymes that can help to speed up the metabolism, make more ATP, and

relieve the fatigue.

Rich

> Hi,

> When I increased the dose of Levothyroxine, I took at least a month

before I noticed positive changes like no weight gain (and even lost

few pounds) and swelling under control. But as for the energy, I felt

better on the first day.

> I'd also like to know what relation may be among thyroid, stress and

(chronic) infections. When I get an infection, my thyroid problems get

worse. When I am exposed to stress, the symptoms of my chronic

infection (throat, ear) get worse (and I also feel exhausted).

> I do not know if this makes any sense. What's your opinion?

> Stania

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have

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Hi Stanislava,

I have noticed that my need for thyroxin increases with stress,

infection, activity, winter......

jennyB

> Hi,

> When I increased the dose of Levothyroxine, I took at least a month

before I noticed positive changes like no weight gain (and even lost

few pounds) and swelling under control. But as for the energy, I felt

better on the first day.

> I'd also like to know what relation may be among thyroid, stress and

(chronic) infections. When I get an infection, my thyroid problems get

worse. When I am exposed to stress, the symptoms of my chronic

infection (throat, ear) get worse (and I also feel exhausted).

> I do not know if this makes any sense. What's your opinion?

> Stania

>

>

>

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> THE THYROID GLAND (A General Overview)

>

>The thyroid gland is part of the ENDOCRINE SYSTEM. The main part of the

>endocrine system comprises:

>For information on what tests are available, see Private Tests.

Where do we click on to see " PRIVATE TESTS " ?

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Hello Sara!

You asked:

" What can naturopaths do in Minnesota then, if they're not licensed? "

They can help you heal yourself with homeopathic remedies and nutrition.

They are not " licensed to kill " so they cannot poison you with

vaccinations and drugs. My son's two boys have never been vaccinated

and are very healthy.

If you go to his website, you will see that he teaches a course on

health and nutrition that helps people be healthy for a lifetime without

vaccinations and prescription poisons.

www.health-potentials.com

It is very unusual for a Naturopathic Doctor to be associated with a

clinic in a hospital like my son, .

JAMA (Journal of the American Medical Associtaion) in their July 27,

2000 issue reported that MDs kill over 250,000 hospital patients a year.

www.mercola.com/2000/jul/30/doctors_death.htm

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> Hey Penny,

> We are most certainly on the same page. Yes, i have been

hypothyroid since

> 1980's - at first had antibodies ie Hashimotos - now no antibodies

and my

> doc can't figure that one out. When i am better I need lower doses

of

> thryoid and then if I get sicker I need more. There certainly does

seem to

> be a connection. The question is how much damage has already been

done that

> is unfixable. I sure would like to be able to stop the growth

hormone as

> well. I have seen improvement in this area when I am better.

> a

>

> Subject: Re: thyroid

>

> Oh, another thought. I really suggest that anyone with thyroid

> issues do a search for " thyroid " at sarcinfo.com

>

> Trevor believes that the thyroid is also a victim of the

> inflammatory cascade and pathogenic causes. Just like I've always

> intutively felt. He talks about the thyroid starting to function

> again when we reduce the inflammation, and that we should keep our

> eyes on our TSH readings. Wouldn't that be great? I just hope my

> thryoid hasn't shriveled up to the size of a peanut.

>

> a, are you hypothyroid and have you noticed any restoration of

> thyroid function now that you feel you've beat your bugs?

>

> penny

Hi

Mercury from dental amalgams/fish is another MAIN cause of thyroid

dysfunction and antibodies and if you want to get well you will have

to get rid of the amalgams safely, chelate safely and then get rid

of the bugs too. Your thyroid then stands a chance of recovering

and you needing less meds.

I rather guess that the huge incidence of thyroid troubles is due to

the mercury issue from dental amalgams and poisoned fish. We have

all taken part in a massive experiment that has so damaged our

health. It is a MASSIVE scandal and CFS is but one result.

Pam

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Hi i just started reading thyroid power : 10 steps to total health by Dr

Shames + Karilee H. Shames and i think that when we are under

additional physical or emtional stress , that changes our body and our

hormonal balance.

I know that when i am very emotionally stressed out or very sick or both,

my need for thryoid homrone changes..? body uses it up faster? , more

adrenal insufficiency unable to keep up thryoid ? or part of the waxing and

wanning of thryoid hormone production with hashimbotes..i sure get more

thyroid symtooms ..which make the cfids seem worse ..

tealk

> [Original Message]

> From: doggy532001 <pam.clewley@...>

> < >

> Date: 5/17/2004 7:41:41 AM

> Subject: Re: Hypothyroid

>

>

> > Hey Penny,

> > We are most certainly on the same page. Yes, i have been

> hypothyroid since

> > 1980's - at first had antibodies ie Hashimotos - now no antibodies

> and my

> > doc can't figure that one out. When i am better I need lower doses

> of

> > thryoid and then if I get sicker I need more. There certainly does

> seem to

> > be a connection. The question is how much damage has already been

> done that

> > is unfixable. I sure would like to be able to stop the growth

> hormone as

> > well. I have seen improvement in this area when I am better.

> > a

> >

> > Subject: Re: thyroid

> >

> > Oh, another thought. I really suggest that anyone with thyroid

> > issues do a search for " thyroid " at sarcinfo.com

> >

> > Trevor believes that the thyroid is also a victim of the

> > inflammatory cascade and pathogenic causes. Just like I've always

> > intutively felt. He talks about the thyroid starting to function

> > again when we reduce the inflammation, and that we should keep our

> > eyes on our TSH readings. Wouldn't that be great? I just hope my

> > thryoid hasn't shriveled up to the size of a peanut.

> >

> > a, are you hypothyroid and have you noticed any restoration of

> > thyroid function now that you feel you've beat your bugs?

> >

> > penny

>

> Hi

>

> Mercury from dental amalgams/fish is another MAIN cause of thyroid

> dysfunction and antibodies and if you want to get well you will have

> to get rid of the amalgams safely, chelate safely and then get rid

> of the bugs too. Your thyroid then stands a chance of recovering

> and you needing less meds.

>

> I rather guess that the huge incidence of thyroid troubles is due to

> the mercury issue from dental amalgams and poisoned fish. We have

> all taken part in a massive experiment that has so damaged our

> health. It is a MASSIVE scandal and CFS is but one result.

>

> Pam

>

>

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with

each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any

treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

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Dave, I tried following the link you gave (below) and could not find my way

in to that portion of his site. Do you have that information on your hard

drive? I would like to read more about what to do about hypothyroid!

At 12:42 PM 10/3/2005 +0000, you wrote:

>Wonderful info...but to say that not many people are hypothyroid (low

>thyroid output) is incorrect. According to Broada approximately 40

>percent of Americans

>are.......<http://www.garynull.com/Documents/Arthritis/Thyroid_Hormone_Therapy.\

htmI>http://www.garynull.com/Documents/Arthritis/Thyroid_Hormone_Therapy.htmI

>will never forget reading the Broada book on how the simple under

>arm temperature test in the morning is more accurate than expensive

>tests...and how in an obese society this is the rate at which we burn

>fat......and how in studies heart disease was stopped with just a few

>grains of dessicated thyroid....

>Dave

>

>

>

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Hi LouiseI opted for rai last year and have 2 friends s who have had their thyroids removed, they are doing a lot better than me, one is an artist the other a receptionist and both returned to work quickly and are both doing really well.I am sure you will do well alsoGood luck and take careDee xFrom: Louise <mtt5nf@...>thyroid treatment Sent: Mon, 7 February, 2011 21:08:08Subject: hypothyroid

In a couple of months I'll have my entire thyroid removed. This is new to me and scares me. Does it weaken the immune system and susceptible to a cold, flu or whatever is going around. Does it weaken the whole body system that I won't be able to work full time?

Louise

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Hi

Louise, I can understand your concern as your thyroid gland is such an

important little organ that helps our body and brain function normally. However,

following

partial thyroidectomy, thyroid function returns to normal in 90% to 98% of

cases, although up to 50% of individuals may experience hypothyroidism during

the first year after surgery.

The prognosis of a thyroidectomy is excellent, with a mortality rate of almost

0% (“Thyroidectomy”).

All individuals undergoing a total thyroidectomy, and some of those undergoing

a partial thyroidectomy, will require lifelong treatment with thyroid hormone

replacement.

You

can read more about how the procedure of the operation is performed, the prognosis

and possible complications here http://www.mdguidelines.com/thyroidectomy

Other

members who have undergone the same operation should be able to help with your

other more specific questions.

Luv

- Sheila

In a couple of months I'll have my entire

thyroid removed. This is new to me and scares me. Does it weaken the immune

system and susceptible to a cold, flu or whatever is going around. Does it

weaken the whole body system that I won't be able to work full time? These may

seem silly questions, but I ask because I am not getting any straight answers

from the doctors.

Louise

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Hi Louise -you said you were having it removed in a couple of months -what

happened before this and why all of it? I wished I had asked questions before

-you are doing the right thing and deserve answers from the doctors Best wishes

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,

Have you tried an iodine supplement, or eating seaweed? Just be sure

you don't have an allergy to iodine beforehand.

Re: Hypothyroid

>I had very obvious hypothyroid symptoms since late 2007 and this time

> coconut oil did not seem to help at all.

>

> However, I think I have had a low level thyroid problem for some time and

> when I first started coconut oil in 2005 it seemed to help quite a bit

> with

> some of the symptoms.

>

> I don't know about cholesterol but mine cholesterol was recently tested

> and

> was all within range on a high good fat diet as per Nourishing

> Traditions/Weston Price.

>

>

>

> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 2:38 AM, showersapril21

> <showersapril21@...>wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> Hi anyone used coconut to bring the levels of their Thyroid

>>

>> and cholestrol?

>> Please share information thank you

>>

>>

>>

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>

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