RE: Digest Number 577

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[Lyme-aid] Digest Number 577

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In a message dated 03/02/2000 8:09:24 PM US Mountain Standard Time,

Vaccinationsonelist writes:

<< Presumably, without one there is also no social security number, >>

Having a birth certificate does not mean you have to have a social security

number. I had a home birth & had to send $9 for each copy of my daughter's

birth certificate along w/a form my midwife gave me that had to be notarized.

I received her birth certificate in the mail. If I'm right here, just

because I didn't have a copy of the birth certificate doesn't mean the State

wasn't aware of the birth. Maybe would know more about that issue. I

got a card from Governor Jane Hull before I got her birth certicate or social

security number. It was an Ambassador greeting card congratulating me on the

birth w/a message to " make sure I kept on schedule w/vaccinations " & included

a vaccination chart for me to write the dates, etc. on. Her husband is a

Doctor so she knows how important vaccinations are. Give me a break!! I

know who to vote against next election. Of course, probably all politicians

are the same on that issue. They'd probably be assassinated for publicly

speaking otherwise. Anyway, back to the point of social security numbers. I

did not want my daughter to get a soc. sec. # because I did not want her to

be tracked by the govt. I did not get one until I was 15 1/2 & got a job.

They needed my social security number to hire me so I got one. There is no

reason I can think of that my daughter needs one. However, my finace's

Grandmother said she needed my daughter's soc. sec. # in order to purchase

bonds for her on holidays such as birthday & Christmas. That is her

customary gift to her grandchildren. When I was a child my Grandfather did

the same for me & he obviously did not need my soc. sec. # because I DIDN'T

HAVE ONE. Although I could do w/o her presents if that's what it takes I

went ahead & got her a soc. sec. # because talking to some people is useless.

BUT, I have not given it to any of her doctors. On our first visits to her

primary pediatrician she did not have a soc. sec. # & I have not given it to

them & do not plan on it. The 2 doctors she has been to since do not have it

either. Of course they have mine because of insurance but I do not know if

the govt. would go so far as to trace her through my #. I suppose anything

is possible though.

Tonya

1st time Mom ( & always full of questions) to:

Home Water Birthed, Breastfed, Non-vaccinated,

Mother/Daughter Bed Sleeping

Brittany

Born 4/22/99

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tonya, your fiance's grandmother can just use her own ss# to purchase

bonds--i've done this many times whne i do not have one of my nieces # with

me when i order them. this is probably what your grandfather did. the only

reason you would need one at this time. is to claim your child as an

exemption on your taxes--i believe you can claim children during their first

year without the ss#, but after that you need it to continue to use them as

an exemption. hope this helps )

brigit

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Hi Moria,

I have thought about purchasing wheat grass juice at the health food store.

Thank you for that information.

Claude

[Guest guest]

> So far as a communication device (which is

> a separate thing from Facilitated Communication, which would require a

> keyboard or letter chart), I say use whatever is going to help Gareth

>

> Hi, Everyone.....MB.....I thought they were the same thing. Gareth had a

> device that held 64 sayings, answers to questions, and info about school

> work. He would push the appropriate box to reply. It really opened up his

> ability to answer questions in science, etc. He was so excited to raise

> his hand, push the box, and have the machine say the answer. Of course,

> his teacher had it programed so he could answer questions.......it's the

> idea that he knew the right box to push.

> a........don't give up....there will be a med that will 'break the

> ice'. Hang in there. I had a lady comment today on how far Gareth has

> come the past year.......for the most part, he's in our world and not

> locked in his. I take him out in public and there is no autistic

> child.........only a polite DS child. My prayers are with you and .

> Take care, Everyone.

>

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shawna,

i am just skimming through the 257 emails i have to read!! i came across

yours.hugs and prayers to you,nathan,and rest of family......

[Guest guest]

thanks for the tought of hope, there are times when nathan is a happy huggy,

social boy, mainly at home, but even at home it comes and goes, i try to

make it a point tonot let him wander off from the family choice activity,to

be alone and self stim, I'm considering taking a leave of abence from work,

so I wont be soo tired as i am allthe time now. Work keeps scheduling me

mega hours and with my boys schedule, and nathan's behavior, illnesses, plus

nicholas needs work with his subtaction and reading, we dont read together

as often anymore, I'm too tired, and my boys will only be this age once. My

spouse said it was up to me, dont know, maybe just every other weekend i

will work, am thinking real hard, just know i cant keep going like this. As

for the xmas program me hubby and me discussed it and are pulling him, and

are going to have soe changes made at school, breaking down his music time

and to his level so he can enjoy as he does at home. I cant beleive its come

to this, all his other classes adapt the class activities for him, the class

is doing an activity and they have broken down steps or an appropriate

related activity, dont understand why if he's been having soo many probs in

music class, he never use to, that they didnt change anything, or even tell

me at his IEP meeting last week. But keep him in prayers, that he revives

his love of music. shawna.

Re: Digest Number 577

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> > So far as a communication device (which is

> > a separate thing from Facilitated Communication, which would require a

> > keyboard or letter chart), I say use whatever is going to help Gareth

> >

> > Hi, Everyone.....MB.....I thought they were the same thing. Gareth had

a

> > device that held 64 sayings, answers to questions, and info about school

> > work. He would push the appropriate box to reply. It really opened up

his

> > ability to answer questions in science, etc. He was so excited to raise

> > his hand, push the box, and have the machine say the answer. Of course,

> > his teacher had it programed so he could answer questions.......it's the

> > idea that he knew the right box to push.

> > a........don't give up....there will be a med that will 'break the

> > ice'. Hang in there. I had a lady comment today on how far Gareth has

> > come the past year.......for the most part, he's in our world and not

> > locked in his. I take him out in public and there is no autistic

> > child.........only a polite DS child. My prayers are with you and

.

> > Take care, Everyone.

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

For all who replied to my questions a week ago

regarding acne breakouts - Thankyou! It was great

advice..

I have reduced my zapping and black walnut doses and

my skin has relaxed a bit. I'm eat alot more fresh

fruits and vegetables. Unfortunately, I have never

been very good about doing that.. I, like many,

relied on the strength of my youth and stubbornly

continued my predominantly fast food/high processed

diet (hey - its convenient!) until now that I am

facing 40 and its all catching up on me. I never had

ANY health problems (other than acne, which I thought

was just youthful hormones) until my very late 20's.

It was almost ten years ago that I began to notice

excessive abdominal bloating and gas. Of course, I

had no idea what brought it on. It was probably all

those years growing up drinking whole milk like it was

water finally taking their toll! My parents used to

threaten they would have to buy a cow to keep up with

me. Lots of ice cream too. UGH. Just the thought of

what i have done to my poor intestinal track makes me

sick.

I know this must sound silly but I keep imagining my

little white blood cells cheering as they see the

stuff I am NOW putting into my body - fruits, veggies,

WATER, black walnut, BOILED milk!, not to mention

zapping. The little troopers must be wondering if they

died and went to heaven.. at last!.. reinforcements

have arrived! Hooray!!

Sorry. Sometimes my imagination gets the best of me.

Thanks again everybody.

Cya!

Joni

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Hey there. I am a mommy to twin boys, 4, Austin ds and Dakota. I get a lot

of questions, too. Like, Are they identical? That is one of my favorite. I

sometimes say, why, yes, they are...And I am really tired of people NOT

believing they are twins. Like, at a restaurant, when kids under a certain

age eat free, and we say they are both 4, and nobody believes it...The world

can be pretty pigheaded...At least Dakota proudly announces that Austin is

his twin, and they are 4...

Beth, mommy to Austin ds and Dakota...

[Guest guest]

Hey there. I am a mommy to twin boys, 4, Austin ds and Dakota. I get a lot

of questions, too. Like, Are they identical? That is one of my favorite. I

sometimes say, why, yes, they are...And I am really tired of people NOT

believing they are twins. Like, at a restaurant, when kids under a certain

age eat free, and we say they are both 4, and nobody believes it...The world

can be pretty pigheaded...At least Dakota proudly announces that Austin is

his twin, and they are 4...

Beth, mommy to Austin ds and Dakota...

[Guest guest]

My experience was the same & I still have the photos taken of the procedure &

the various casts, if anyone is interested.... in Santa Clara, CA

first surgery in 1977, T5-T11, no rods

>

> to " push you straight " -- or push you straighter, anyway -- before

> encasing much of your body in plaster. If I'm not mistaken, the

> Risser procedure entailed pulling down on your hips and up on your

> chin, and, once you were stretched out as far as possible, pushing

> in on the side of your torso in a direction opposite to that of your

> major curve. Like many others with progressive idiopathic scoliosis,

> I was in a Risser jacket for several months pre-op, when I was 13,

> and was later in various other types of plaster jackets after

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In a message dated 1/28/03 2:42:40 AM Central Standard Time, writes:

amazing grace  where did you get that info? pumpboz

© Copyright 2003 The Medical Post. All rights reserved.

"Chance favors the prepared mind"

Louis Pasteur

** If you can't be a good example then you have to be a horrible warning**

Da YOOPER

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think about how happy you would be right now if you lost everything thing you have and then got it back

[Guest guest]

Okay Group,went to the Dr. yesterday GI...He said my number was 615 that

my virus was undetectable.But he said come back in 6 months to get

retested..He said either I had a false positive or I was exposed at one

time and it didnt go any further...My husbands viral load test didnt

come back yet! Its been over a week..But because he tested positive for

Hepc and his liver enzymes are up,he said he is going to do a sona gram

on him and a liver biopsy..But he needs to wait on the liver biopsy

until he has not been drinking for 5 months..He has one more month to

go...He said he will know more when his viral load comes in ad then they

will test for the geno type?I asked him alot of questions,which my

husband doesnt like because he just wants to get on with it..He is a

young Dr. and he has alot of Hepc pamplets around his office but I did

ask him if he treats this alot and he said yes..There is alot HepC....My

husband isnt the type to want to talk about this or even to get on the

internet to research it..he just does not want to talk about it ...So

this is where I am at ,going back in 6 months to re-test...

[Guest guest]

That's wonderful news!

I am so happy for you. What a relief it must be!

Another friend had that happen to her, and she's just been thrilled

over it.

Ask as many questions as you can for your husband. I think men just

like to stick their heads into the ground where their health is

concerned. So, this wife takes care of all of " that stuff " .

Sounds like the doc knows his stuff. It'll all be over before you

know it--then treatment can begin.

God bless you,

Suzy

> Okay Group,went to the Dr. yesterday GI...He said my number was 615

that

> my virus was undetectable.But he said come back in 6 months to get

> retested..He said either I had a false positive or I was exposed at

one

> time and it didnt go any further...My husbands viral load test didnt

> come back yet! Its been over a week..But because he tested positive

for

> Hepc and his liver enzymes are up,he said he is going to do a sona

gram

> on him and a liver biopsy..But he needs to wait on the liver biopsy

> until he has not been drinking for 5 months..He has one more month

to

> go...He said he will know more when his viral load comes in ad then

they

> will test for the geno type?I asked him alot of questions,which my

> husband doesnt like because he just wants to get on with it..He is a

> young Dr. and he has alot of Hepc pamplets around his office but I

did

> ask him if he treats this alot and he said yes..There is alot

HepC....My

> husband isnt the type to want to talk about this or even to get on

the

> internet to research it..he just does not want to talk about

it ...So

> this is where I am at ,going back in 6 months to re-test...

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Jeanne, how long will the lilac tincture last?

J.

[Guest guest]

Here are my 2 cents worth for these questions.

1. What is your geographical location? (city/country)

Live in rural Alberta, Canada

2. How severe are your ES symptoms? I.e. do you consider your ES merely

irritating, or has

it seriously impacted your productivity and quality of life?

I consider it a huge impact, I have trouble interacting in the 'real' world.

I'm fine if I stay far, far away from any electricity. Traveling is

difficult, so is working, shopping.

Optional:

3. What factors do you identify as contributing to your ES? (e.g. heavy

metal toxicity,

proximity to cell phone towers, heavy metal toxicity)

Over dose of electricity - I just to work in a place just feet away from a

huge ground based transformer and a fridge in the room. Then there was a

lot of loose current from an incorrectly wired stock waterer where I live.

I find fridges are the worst for me, but telephone, and all other

electrical things do bother me.

I find that I am bothered by the furnace (Natural gas) I get hot all up and

down my body before it turns on.

4. What other serious health issues are you experiencing besides ES? (direct

relationship to

ES need not be established)

I find that exposure makes my muscles very sore and hard. My body retains

fluid in an effort to protect it's self. Which of course hurts. Major

migraines which I have had not since removing a surge protector from under

my bed.

I live within sight of six cell phone towers but I can't really determine if

they add to the problem or not. (likely they do)

I can 'feel' when I am getting close to over head power lines - pain in the

stomach and in the lower back. I have a raw esophagus which medication does

not help but being in less electricity does.

Hope this will help. Being rural is no help, electricity is here too. I

would like to move somewhere there is no power but- much to my surprise -

there aren't any places that do not have electricity!

Good luck to all of us

Judy

[Guest guest]

Hello Judy,

you wrote:

> I find that I am bothered by the furnace (Natural gas) I get hot all up

> and

> down my body before it turns on.

I have found on some gas furnaces with electrical switches for igniting the

flames taht they may give a large magnetic AC field, when the line is not

grounded.

So, you may try and disconnect the electrical cord from the wall plug and

see if the furnace still hinders you.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

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Re: Digest Number 577

> Here are my 2 cents worth for these questions.

> 1. What is your geographical location? (city/country)

>

> Live in rural Alberta, Canada

> 2. How severe are your ES symptoms? I.e. do you consider your ES merely

> irritating, or has

> it seriously impacted your productivity and quality of life?

>

> I consider it a huge impact, I have trouble interacting in the 'real'

> world.

> I'm fine if I stay far, far away from any electricity. Traveling is

> difficult, so is working, shopping.

>

> Optional:

> 3. What factors do you identify as contributing to your ES? (e.g. heavy

> metal toxicity,

> proximity to cell phone towers, heavy metal toxicity)

>

> Over dose of electricity - I just to work in a place just feet away from a

> huge ground based transformer and a fridge in the room. Then there was a

> lot of loose current from an incorrectly wired stock waterer where I live.

> I find fridges are the worst for me, but telephone, and all other

> electrical things do bother me.

>

> I find that I am bothered by the furnace (Natural gas) I get hot all up

> and

> down my body before it turns on.

>

>

> 4. What other serious health issues are you experiencing besides ES?

> (direct

> relationship to

> ES need not be established)

>

> I find that exposure makes my muscles very sore and hard. My body retains

> fluid in an effort to protect it's self. Which of course hurts. Major

> migraines which I have had not since removing a surge protector from under

> my bed.

>

> I live within sight of six cell phone towers but I can't really determine

> if

> they add to the problem or not. (likely they do)

>

> I can 'feel' when I am getting close to over head power lines - pain in

> the

> stomach and in the lower back. I have a raw esophagus which medication

> does

> not help but being in less electricity does.

>

> Hope this will help. Being rural is no help, electricity is here too. I

> would like to move somewhere there is no power but- much to my surprise -

> there aren't any places that do not have electricity!

>

> Good luck to all of us

>

> Judy

[Guest guest]

Sorry. I will not be able to attend the dinner. We have family coming

in from out of town.

Thanks.

Debbie

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Subject: [ ] Digest Number 577

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3. Please Sign-up for our Christmas Party Here.(Revised - see

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4. Please Sign-up for our Christmas Party Here.(even if you aren't

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Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the

group:

Sign-up for our Chirstmas-Holoday Dinner Party. Thursday December 29th

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Even if you aren't sure today if you are going yet, you can sign up here

and I will contact you early next week to confirm your plans.

Also if you need childcare check the boxes for how many children that

will need childcare for the evening.

Thanks!

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Subject: Please Sign-up for our Christmas Party Here.(even if you aren't

100% sure).

Christmas Party Sign-up Here. (even if you aren't 100% sure yet).

There isn't much time before next Thursday December 29th, so I thought I

would make an easy sign-up form for everyone. We will have available

childcare

for that evening close to the restaurant.

Please Sign up by clicking on the link and I will contact you to confirm

your

plans. I need to get an estimate of people coming.

Thanks,

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Subject: Please Sign-up for our Christmas Party Here.(Revised - see

link).

Christmas Party Sign-up Here. (even if you aren't 100% sure yet).

There isn't much time before next Thursday December 29th, so I thought I

would make an easy sign-up form for everyone. We will have available

childcare

for that evening close to the restaurant.

Please Sign up by clicking on the link and I will contact you to confirm

your

plans. I need to get an estimate of people coming.

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Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 15:03:48 EST

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Subject: Please Sign-up for our Christmas Party Here.(even if you aren't

100% sure).

Christmas Party Sign-up Here. (even if you aren't 100% sure yet).

There isn't much time before next Thursday December 29th, so I thought I

would make an easy sign-up form for everyone. We will have available

childcare

for that evening close to the restaurant.

Please Sign up by clicking on the link and I will contact you to confirm

your

plans. I need to get an estimate of people coming.

Thanks,

n

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[Guest guest]

Hey Tracey:

THANX for the overview of the Teleconference! As you know, after posting to

both groups in November; my 'gold brain' failed me and I missed it. Now I don't

have to read the posted text at the site. . .THANX again, GF., as always you did

an excellent job for us.

Take care. . .All are in my prayers.

" K "

" I AIN'T FINISHED YET " !!!