Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 , Tha answer to your question depends on alot of things. What is your child's age? What level are they at? Does your child need sameness or a structured environment? I used it for the daily stuff that we did on schedule *ie* Getting dressed, brushing teeth, going potty, etc. The things that just pop up, don't worry too much. Our kids need an occasional surprise, at least my son. The more we tried to avoid anything that we feared would cause a meltdown, the more rigid he became. He now, understands FIRST/THEN So if he wants to go shopping, but I have to stop for gas first. He used to freak out, now we tell him First gas/ Then Shopping. If you have this sort of problem make pictures and put them in your car. Just the usual stuff like store, school, gas station, church, etc. I know you can never plan for everything, just go with the flow and maybe your son will learn to be more flexible as a result, you may have to go through meltdowns at first, we did. HTH ----- Original Message ----- From: Biehl Sent: 3/14/2006 3:07:57 PM Subject: [ ] Picture Schedule Hi group, I was wondering if anyone is seriously was using picture schedules to help make the day go better for there child? I used them for about 2 months and found it hard to make it work. Reason being, life is not all planned, and to say, oh wait a min I have to find a picture for that sounds unrealistic when something spontaneous comes up. If anyone is using this technique and is having luck with it could you please tell me how you do it? Thanks Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 A lot of times our kids receptive language is much higher than they indicate. I think its important to "talk out loud" about how we cope with changes, and lets face it, noone likes changes. Or think of what you tell yourself to keep from having a melt down when you can't have what you want. I have seen plenty of adults have melt downs, they are not limited to kids. When ours was in the throws of the terrible twos and would have melt downs whenever she was told no, we started thinking about what we tell ourselves when we are frustrated or don't want to shift activities. Over the course of the next few months, when we encountered new situations we would say, "I'm a little scared of this new thing but I'll try it and maybe I will like it, if I don't like it then maybe I will just do--------------. Or, when faced with the question "Can I have, do or get? We would say "maybe later." We did this, many times, over the screaming and tantruming never sure that she was actually hearing anything. Sure enough, it took about 3-4 months, but she started to repeat our coping skills whenever she got frustrated or scared, etc. And then she got better at it and made up some of her own. ----- Original Message ----- From: rmaher1969@... Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 6:34 PM Subject: RE: [ ] Picture Schedule , Tha answer to your question depends on alot of things. What is your child's age? What level are they at? Does your child need sameness or a structured environment? I used it for the daily stuff that we did on schedule *ie* Getting dressed, brushing teeth, going potty, etc. The things that just pop up, don't worry too much. Our kids need an occasional surprise, at least my son. The more we tried to avoid anything that we feared would cause a meltdown, the more rigid he became. He now, understands FIRST/THEN So if he wants to go shopping, but I have to stop for gas first. He used to freak out, now we tell him First gas/ Then Shopping. If you have this sort of problem make pictures and put them in your car. Just the usual stuff like store, school, gas station, church, etc. I know you can never plan for everything, just go with the flow and maybe your son will learn to be more flexible as a result, you may have to go through meltdowns at first, we did. HTH ----- Original Message ----- From: Biehl Sent: 3/14/2006 3:07:57 PM Subject: [ ] Picture Schedule Hi group, I was wondering if anyone is seriously was using picture schedules to help make the day go better for there child? I used them for about 2 months and found it hard to make it work. Reason being, life is not all planned, and to say, oh wait a min I have to find a picture for that sounds unrealistic when something spontaneous comes up. If anyone is using this technique and is having luck with it could you please tell me how you do it? Thanks Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 My son now says, O.K., O.K. Calm down when he gets really upset!! Laurie --- Cochran <Ladyshrink111@...> wrote: > A lot of times our kids receptive language is much > higher than they indicate. I think its important to > " talk out loud " about how we cope with changes, and > lets face it, noone likes changes. Or think of what > you tell yourself to keep from having a melt down > when you can't have what you want. I have seen > plenty of adults have melt downs, they are not > limited to kids. > > When ours was in the throws of the terrible twos and > would have melt downs whenever she was told no, we > started thinking about what we tell ourselves when > we are frustrated or don't want to shift activities. > > Over the course of the next few months, when we > encountered new situations we would say, > " I'm a little scared of this new thing but I'll try > it and maybe I will like it, if I don't like it then > maybe I will just do--------------. Or, when faced > with the question " Can I have, do or get? We would > say " maybe later. " We did this, many times, over > the screaming and tantruming never sure that she was > actually hearing anything. > > Sure enough, it took about 3-4 months, but she > started to repeat our coping skills whenever she got > frustrated or scared, etc. And then she got better > at it and made up some of her own. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: rmaher1969@... > > Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 6:34 PM > Subject: RE: [ ] Picture Schedule > > > , > Tha answer to your question depends on alot of > things. What is your child's age? What level are > they at? Does your child need sameness or a > structured environment? I used it for the daily > stuff that we did on schedule *ie* Getting dressed, > brushing teeth, going potty, etc. The things that > just pop up, don't worry too much. Our kids need an > occasional surprise, at least my son. The more we > tried to avoid anything that we feared would cause a > meltdown, the more rigid he became. He now, > understands FIRST/THEN So if he wants to go > shopping, but I have to stop for gas first. He used > to freak out, now we tell him First gas/ Then > Shopping. If you have this sort of problem make > pictures and put them in your car. Just the usual > stuff like store, school, gas station, church, etc. > I know you can never plan for everything, just go > with the flow and maybe your son will learn to be > more flexible as a result, you may have to go > through meltdowns at first, we did. > HTH > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Biehl > > Sent: 3/14/2006 3:07:57 PM > Subject: [ ] Picture Schedule > > > Hi group, > I was wondering if anyone is seriously was using > picture schedules to help make the day go better for > there child? I used them for about 2 months and > found it hard to make it work. Reason being, life is > not all planned, and to say, oh wait a min I have to > find a picture for that sounds unrealistic when > something spontaneous comes up. If anyone is using > this technique and is having luck with it could you > please tell me how you do it? > Thanks > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying > attachments. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 My son's school relies on picture schedules for the day because it is generally routine. If there's a change, she discusses it with the kids. The visuals are very important for my son. Once he could read, the pictures were dropped and now they are just words. I have used them at home, but not as consistently. One summer, my son took the " go to school(camp) " icon off of the schedule and put the " go to pool " one up instead!!!LOL!!! It was really cute! I still use the first/then statements a lot. It works well. Also---if we are going somewhere that we have never been and I know it will be stressful, I will write out a social story for him. This has worked incredibly well. It may sound strange, but you have to tell them that they will have fun. Sometimes our kids don't get that on their own. Laurie p.s. I have asked the school S.T. in the past to print me some icons from the Boardmaker program, then I laminated them at kinko's, put velcro on the back and made my own schedule. --- Biehl <angelabiehl@...> wrote: > Hi group, > I was wondering if anyone is seriously was using > picture schedules to help make the day go better for > there child? I used them for about 2 months and > found it hard to make it work. Reason being, life is > not all planned, and to say, oh wait a min I have to > find a picture for that sounds unrealistic when > something spontaneous comes up. If anyone is using > this technique and is having luck with it could you > please tell me how you do it? > Thanks > > > > --------------------------------- > > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Thank you all for your emails, My son is 5 and is very high functioning (so everyone keeps telling me) and is having some behavioral problems at home. After he gets home from school he meltsdown. I have been told that if we go back to the using picture schedules it will help him from losing control. I did not see alot of difference when we used them before so I am hoping that doing something alittle different this time helps. He is not getting alot of sensory input in Kindergarten because they are telling me he is doing so well, so we have to really play catch up when he gets home and by then he is so far gone. Not sure if the picture schedules will be the complete fix. Thanks again Laurie Kowalski <lyndhurstmom3@...> wrote: My son now says, O.K., O.K. Calm down when he getsreally upset!! Laurie--- Cochran <Ladyshrink111@...>wrote:> A lot of times our kids receptive language is much> higher than they indicate. I think its important to> "talk out loud" about how we cope with changes, and> lets face it, noone likes changes. Or think of what> you tell yourself to keep from having a melt down> when you can't have what you want. I have seen> plenty of adults have melt downs, they are not> limited to kids.> > When ours was in the throws of the terrible twos and> would have melt downs whenever she was told no, we> started thinking about what we tell ourselves when> we are frustrated or don't want to shift activities.> > Over the course of the next few months, when we> encountered new situations we would say,> "I'm a little scared of this new thing but I'll try> it and maybe I will like it, if I don't like it then> maybe I will just do--------------. Or, when faced> with the question "Can I have, do or get? We would> say "maybe later." We did this, many times, over> the screaming and tantruming never sure that she was> actually hearing anything.> > Sure enough, it took about 3-4 months, but she> started to repeat our coping skills whenever she got> frustrated or scared, etc. And then she got better> at it and made up some of her own.> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: rmaher1969@... > > Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 6:34 PM> Subject: RE: [ ] Picture Schedule> > > ,> Tha answer to your question depends on alot of> things. What is your child's age? What level are> they at? Does your child need sameness or a> structured environment? I used it for the daily> stuff that we did on schedule *ie* Getting dressed,> brushing teeth, going potty, etc. The things that> just pop up, don't worry too much. Our kids need an> occasional surprise, at least my son. The more we> tried to avoid anything that we feared would cause a> meltdown, the more rigid he became. He now,> understands FIRST/THEN So if he wants to go> shopping, but I have to stop for gas first. He used> to freak out, now we tell him First gas/ Then> Shopping. If you have this sort of problem make> pictures and put them in your car. Just the usual> stuff like store, school, gas station, church, etc. > I know you can never plan for everything, just go> with the flow and maybe your son will learn to be> more flexible as a result, you may have to go> through meltdowns at first, we did.> HTH > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Biehl > > Sent: 3/14/2006 3:07:57 PM > Subject: [ ] Picture Schedule> > > Hi group,> I was wondering if anyone is seriously was using> picture schedules to help make the day go better for> there child? I used them for about 2 months and> found it hard to make it work. Reason being, life is> not all planned, and to say, oh wait a min I have to> find a picture for that sounds unrealistic when> something spontaneous comes up. If anyone is using> this technique and is having luck with it could you> please tell me how you do it? > Thanks> > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------> > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying> attachments. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 , You are so right! We had the same situation with our son. He still uses the coping skills and he also self regulates himself in the same manner. If you hear him say "No jumping!" You know that he is standing on the back of the couch getting ready to jump. Now he just needs to learn to listen to himself! ----- Original Message ----- From: Cochran Sent: 3/14/2006 7:02:23 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Picture Schedule A lot of times our kids receptive language is much higher than they indicate. I think its important to "talk out loud" about how we cope with changes, and lets face it, noone likes changes. Or think of what you tell yourself to keep from having a melt down when you can't have what you want. I have seen plenty of adults have melt downs, they are not limited to kids. When ours was in the throws of the terrible twos and would have melt downs whenever she was told no, we started thinking about what we tell ourselves when we are frustrated or don't want to shift activities. Over the course of the next few months, when we encountered new situations we would say, "I'm a little scared of this new thing but I'll try it and maybe I will like it, if I don't like it then maybe I will just do--------------. Or, when faced with the question "Can I have, do or get? We would say "maybe later." We did this, many times, over the screaming and tantruming never sure that she was actually hearing anything. Sure enough, it took about 3-4 months, but she started to repeat our coping skills whenever she got frustrated or scared, etc. And then she got better at it and made up some of her own. ----- Original Message ----- From: rmaher1969@... Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 6:34 PM Subject: RE: [ ] Picture Schedule , Tha answer to your question depends on alot of things. What is your child's age? What level are they at? Does your child need sameness or a structured environment? I used it for the daily stuff that we did on schedule *ie* Getting dressed, brushing teeth, going potty, etc. The things that just pop up, don't worry too much. Our kids need an occasional surprise, at least my son. The more we tried to avoid anything that we feared would cause a meltdown, the more rigid he became. He now, understands FIRST/THEN So if he wants to go shopping, but I have to stop for gas first. He used to freak out, now we tell him First gas/ Then Shopping. If you have this sort of problem make pictures and put them in your car. Just the usual stuff like store, school, gas station, church, etc. I know you can never plan for everything, just go with the flow and maybe your son will learn to be more flexible as a result, you may have to go through meltdowns at first, we did. HTH ----- Original Message ----- From: Biehl Sent: 3/14/2006 3:07:57 PM Subject: [ ] Picture Schedule Hi group, I was wondering if anyone is seriously was using picture schedules to help make the day go better for there child? I used them for about 2 months and found it hard to make it work. Reason being, life is not all planned, and to say, oh wait a min I have to find a picture for that sounds unrealistic when something spontaneous comes up. If anyone is using this technique and is having luck with it could you please tell me how you do it? Thanks Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 LOL! I love the "pool" switcheroo! Did your son switch school and pool because they rhymed and he thought you wouldn't notice? What a cutie! If/then statements worked wonders with my son as well. Social stories are a very important and indispensable part of our proactive arsenal, too. Chris----- Original Message ----- From: Laurie Kowalski Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 9:07 AMSubject: Re: [ ] Picture ScheduleMy son's school relies on picture schedules for theday because it is generally routine. If there's achange, she discusses it with the kids. The visualsare very important for my son. Once he could read,the pictures were dropped and now they are just words. I have used them at home, but not as consistently. One summer, my son took the "go to school(camp)" iconoff of the schedule and put the "go to pool" one upinstead!!!LOL!!! It was really cute! I still use thefirst/then statements a lot. It works well. Also---if we are going somewhere that we have neverbeen and I know it will be stressful, I will write outa social story for him. This has worked incrediblywell. It may sound strange, but you have to tell themthat they will have fun. Sometimes our kids don't getthat on their own.Lauriep.s. I have asked the school S.T. in the past to printme some icons from the Boardmaker program, then Ilaminated them at kinko's, put velcro on the back andmade my own schedule.--- Biehl <angelabiehl@...> wrote:> Hi group,> I was wondering if anyone is seriously was using> picture schedules to help make the day go better for> there child? I used them for about 2 months and> found it hard to make it work. Reason being, life is> not all planned, and to say, oh wait a min I have to> find a picture for that sounds unrealistic when> something spontaneous comes up. If anyone is using> this technique and is having luck with it could you> please tell me how you do it? > Thanks> > > > ---------------------------------> > Use Photomail to share photos without annoyingattachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 In a message dated 3/15/2006 10:31:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, angelabiehl@... writes: Thank you all for your emails, My son is 5 and is very high functioning (so everyone keeps telling me) and is having some behavioral problems at home. After he gets home from school he meltsdown. I have been told that if we go back to the using picture schedules it will help him from losing control. I did not see alot of difference when we used them before so I am hoping that doing something alittle different this time helps. He is not getting alot of sensory input in Kindergarten because they are telling me he is doing so well, so we have to really play catch up when he gets home and by then he is so far gone. Not sure if the picture schedules will be the complete fix. Thanks again Sounds like he needs a sensory diet at school, which is a proactive way of handling things and could help him loose some of his anxiety during the day and not save it up. A great article which would help you explain this need is here --> http://www.assew.org/articles/balancing_the_tray.htm You should also stress to them that by not helping him now, he will eventually start having behaviors pop out at school. Both my boys were/are like this and eventually, they got attention at school when they couldn't save it up for home any longer. A picture schedule could be one way of helping him at school if he is having problems with transitioning and that causes him stress. But I doubt that would be the entire solution. And if they just mean a picture schedule at home, I doubt that would solve the problem if he is stressing out because of school, not because of home. Roxanna ô¿ôDon't take life too seriously; No one gets out alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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