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I was in a rut as well the past few weeks where the scales wouldnt tip, what I started doing was eating little healthy snacks every 2 hours between meals, so I would have grapes/apple/nectarine before lunch and then have maybe a snack size tuna kit before I headed out to the gym. If you can boost your protein in between meals that will help, also change up your exercise. I decided one day of the week I would swim at my local gym's pool and it seemed to help. I've also started eating higher protein in the AM, I'll have like 3 chicken nuggets which is about 120 cal but 12g of protein, then my 1/2 sandwich with turkey or chicken, then something high in protein in the evening...like Fish. Kinda change things up a bit and see how it works...give the body chance to adjust. You'll be surprised cause all of a sudden I had dropped 4lbs which seemed over night. Also, drink lots of water...it aids in losing weight. My gym produces these flyers and it says that sometimes we think we are hungry when in fact we need water...so drink water if you feel a twinge of hunger to see if that is what your body really needed. Take Care!Kelli>> Hello everyone> > This is keri in Florida. i have not wrote in awhile because life has been crazy. any way i need help. i have lost a total of 50 lbs in 5 months. but i am stuck at 250. and cant go down. i has been like this for the past 3 weeks, i dont need a fill but what can i do to loose again. please help.> > keri> > > > > > ---------------------------------> How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.>

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My dear friend ,

While we are all subject to memory gaps from time to time, may I remind you (and anybody else) of the wonderful "search" function that this site has.

The person you are looking for is " in Michigan," whose husband suffers from DES. Post #37896 will give you her information (linked below)

achalasia : Message: DES for

If I wanted information about DES (Diffuse esophageal spasms), all I would do is enter in the "Search" field those words and within seconds I would get a lists of posts that contain the words "Diffuse esophageal spasms."

In a message dated 10/19/2006 7:01:10 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, mt4mar@... writes:

Hello all. I know I have been not responding to to many post over the last few weeks. I have been trying to get used to the hours of my new job. I keep everyone in mind though and I have been thinking of eveyone getting ready for surgery and stuff. I have a quick question. My memory is not that good when it comes to names so please helpe me out here. I know there is someone in the group that has a spouce with DES. I have been talking to a girl from Jordan that was just told she has DES and would like to talk about that to someone that is dealing with that. If you could please be willing to let me know who you are and are you willing for me to pass on your e-mail?Thanks again and I am thinking of all you all...lol in Georgia

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I think you will find 's husband in Michigan has DES

her name is let45ride see message 38298.

Hope this help

Pippa x

>

> Hello all. I know I have been not responding to to many post over

the

> last few weeks. I have been trying to get used to the hours of my

new

> job. I keep everyone in mind though and I have been thinking of

> eveyone getting ready for surgery and stuff.

>

> I have a quick question. My memory is not that good when it comes

to

> names so please helpe me out here. I know there is someone in the

> group that has a spouce with DES. I have been talking to a girl

from

> Jordan that was just told she has DES and would like to talk about

that

> to someone that is dealing with that. If you could please be

willing

> to let me know who you are and are you willing for me to pass on

your e-

> mail?

>

>

> Thanks again and I am thinking of all you all...lol

>

> in Georgia

>

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Hi -

I think that is from Michigan.I dont have her e mail but Im

sure someone here may or can get it.Im pretty sure her hubby

has that.I may be wrong-there are so many members here now I could

be confused as to who is who.lol Hope this helps a little.Take care-

good to hear from ya.Tonia

>

> Hello all. I know I have been not responding to to many post over

the

> last few weeks. I have been trying to get used to the hours of my

new

> job. I keep everyone in mind though and I have been thinking of

> eveyone getting ready for surgery and stuff.

>

> I have a quick question. My memory is not that good when it comes

to

> names so please helpe me out here. I know there is someone in the

> group that has a spouce with DES. I have been talking to a girl

from

> Jordan that was just told she has DES and would like to talk about

that

> to someone that is dealing with that. If you could please be

willing

> to let me know who you are and are you willing for me to pass on

your e-

> mail?

>

>

> Thanks again and I am thinking of all you all...lol

>

> in Georgia

>

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Thank you Tonia in foggy Georgiatoniasdogsandi <toniasdogsandi@...> wrote: Hi -I think that is from Michigan.I dont have her e mail but Im sure someone here may or can get it.Im pretty sure her hubby has that.I may be wrong-there are so many members here now I could be confused as to who is who.lol Hope this helps a little.Take care-good to hear from ya.Tonia>> Hello all. I know I have been not responding to to many post over the > last few weeks. I have been trying to get used to the hours of my new > job. I keep everyone in mind though and I have been thinking of > eveyone getting ready for surgery and stuff. > > I have a quick question. My memory is not that good when it comes to > names so please helpe me out here. I know there is someone in the > group that has a spouce with DES. I have been talking to a girl from > Jordan that was just told she has DES and would like to talk about that > to someone that is dealing with that. If you could please be willing > to let me know who you are and are you willing for me to pass on your e-> mail?> > > Thanks again and I am thinking of

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Thank you in foggy Georgiacynmark24@... wrote: My dear friend , While we are all subject to memory gaps from time to time, may I remind you (and anybody else) of the wonderful "search" function that this site has. The person you are looking for is " in Michigan," whose husband suffers from DES. Post #37896 will give you her information (linked below) achalasia : Message: DES for If I wanted information about DES (Diffuse esophageal spasms), all I would do is enter in the "Search" field those words and within seconds I would get a lists of posts that contain the words "Diffuse esophageal spasms." In a message dated 10/19/2006

7:01:10 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, mt4mar writes: Hello all. I know I have been not responding to to many post over the last few weeks. I have been trying to get used to the hours of my new job. I keep everyone in mind though and I have been thinking of eveyone getting ready for surgery and stuff. I have a quick question. My memory is not that good when it comes to names so please helpe me out here. I know there is someone in the group that has a spouce with DES. I have been talking to a girl from Jordan that was just told she has DES and would like to talk about that to someone that is dealing with that. If you could please be willing to let me know who you are and are you willing for me to pass on your

e-mail?Thanks again and I am thinking of all you all...lol in Georgia <FONT face="comic sans ms" color=#ff0000 size=5> in Georgia </FONT><IMG src=" ">

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Yes. They're right, it's me with the hubby with DES ().

Does this girl live in Jordan (the country)? That would be great to

hear from someone with DES! The only one we've ever corresponded with

was a woman who started a GI motility disorders group. She said she

was diagnosed with DES AND A. I don't know if that means her DES was

misdiagnosed or just became A or what. Anyway, feel free to have the

girl you know e mail me: brendacoyle at comcast.net (I took the hint

from someone earlier and wrote it the long way so that it shows up

fully).

Thanks, and good luck with the new job!

in Michigan

>

> Hello all. I know I have been not responding to to many post over the

> last few weeks. I have been trying to get used to the hours of my new

> job. I keep everyone in mind though and I have been thinking of

> eveyone getting ready for surgery and stuff.

>

> I have a quick question. My memory is not that good when it comes to

> names so please helpe me out here. I know there is someone in the

> group that has a spouce with DES. I have been talking to a girl from

> Jordan that was just told she has DES and would like to talk about that

> to someone that is dealing with that. If you could please be willing

> to let me know who you are and are you willing for me to pass on your e-

> mail?

>

>

> Thanks again and I am thinking of all you all...lol

>

> in Georgia

>

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wrote:

> ... I have been talking to a girl from

> Jordan that was just told she has DES and would like to talk about that

> to someone that is dealing with that. ...

>

Please tell her she is welcome to join us here. DES is closely related

to achalasia and DES sufferers are very welcome here. There is also a

group started by for DES.

diffuseesophagealspasm/

notan

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Yes, she lives in the country of Jordan. Can I give her your name and e-mails? Thanks in Georgialet45ride <brendacoyle@...> wrote: ,Yes. They're right, it's me with the hubby with DES (). Does this girl live in Jordan (the country)? That would be great tohear from someone with DES! The only one we've ever corresponded withwas a woman who started a GI motility disorders group. She said shewas diagnosed with DES AND A. I

don't know if that means her DES wasmisdiagnosed or just became A or what. Anyway, feel free to have thegirl you know e mail me: brendacoyle at comcast.net (I took the hintfrom someone earlier and wrote it the long way so that it shows upfully). Thanks, and good luck with the new job! in Michigan>> Hello all. I know I have been not responding to to many post over the > last few weeks. I have been trying to get used to the hours of my new > job. I keep everyone in mind though and I have been thinking of > eveyone getting ready for surgery and stuff. > > I have a quick question. My memory is not that good when it comes to > names so please helpe me out here. I know there is someone in the > group that has a spouce with DES. I have been talking

to a girl from > Jordan that was just told she has DES and would like to talk about that > to someone that is dealing with that. If you could please be willing > to let me know who you are and are you willing for me to pass on your e-> mail?> > > Thanks again and I am thinking of all you all...lol> > in Georgia><FONT face="comic sans ms" color=#ff0000

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,

Yes. Please do that. Maybe she'd be interested in joining this

group or possibly my DES group. Either way, it might be nice to talk

to her about DES issues.

Thank you, Notan, for mentioning my group! I had almost

forgotten about the group, since it hasn't had any activity.

in Michigan

>

> Yes, she lives in the country of Jordan. Can I give her your name

and e-mails?

>

> Thanks

> in Georgia

>

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I Have A Couple Questions What Affects The Etg Test I

Mean Every One Has Different Metabolism Rate Or Does

That Not Even Matter ?

--- Ethylglucuronide

<jhartman32001@...> wrote:

> I thought every thing was going fine, with etg

tetsing. I have stopped taki

> ng seroquel, my 3

> recent tests have been negative. I just got a call

that I had another posit

> ive test the highest

> 1100. I am shocked. They wanted me to go into

another rehab, my third in 5

> months. I just

> officially withdrew from ca diversion. I am scared,

I don't know what to d

> o. Can I work with

> my license, until probation catches up with me? If

they do accept me into p

> robation, how can

> I stop testing positive for etg?

>

> Please help

>

>

>

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sorry julie about your positive...do you have a creatinine value on that 1100?...if you had it off the seroquel then something elsemust be going on...did you take a lot of hydrocodone/apap combo drugs(vicodin,lortab,etc.) when you were using sometimes up to 10-20/da?...if so per previous post liver systems can be damaged upregulating EtG conjugation..i might also look at drawing a cdt blood test to see if the % change will disprove EtG...that is what they did with me...blood test much more specific..regards,r.jhartman32001 <jhartman32001@...> wrote: I thought every thing was going fine, with etg tetsing. I have stopped taking seroquel, my 3 recent tests have been negative. I just got a call that I had another positive test the highest 1100. I am shocked. They wanted me to go into another rehab, my third in 5 months. I just officially withdrew from ca diversion. I am scared, I don't know what to do. Can I work with my license, until probation catches up with me? If they do accept me into probation, how can I stop testing positive for etg?Please help

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hi jason,many things can affect hepatic metabolism which makes this test so dangerous because results can vary 15X person to person or in fact in the same person due to multiple factors...review the posts to get an idea, you are right it matters very much to anyone who has had an innocent positive...regards,r jason holbrook <jholbrook42@...> wrote: I Have A Couple Questions What Affects The Etg Test IMean Every One Has Different Metabolism Rate Or

DoesThat Not Even Matter ?--- Ethylglucuronide <jhartman32001 > wrote:> I thought every thing was going fine, with etgtetsing. I have stopped taki> ng seroquel, my 3 > recent tests have been negative. I just got a callthat I had another posit> ive test the highest > 1100. I am shocked. They wanted me to go intoanother rehab, my third in 5 > months. I just > officially withdrew from ca diversion. I am scared,I don't know what to d> o. Can I work with > my license, until probation catches up with me? Ifthey do accept me into p> robation, how can > I stop testing positive for etg?> > Please help> > >

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Yes I took 10-20 norco's a day for 5 years. there is

nothing I can do right now regarding other tests,

since I have no money and I am not in a testing

program at this time.

I just talked to my husband he hasn't been the best

support at this time, I think he was waiting for me to

say I really relapsed. I am just so upset at this

time, I want to talk to others who have gone the

probation route.

--- robin murray <remurraymd@...> wrote:

> sorry julie about your positive...do you have a

> creatinine value on that 1100?...if you had it off

> the seroquel then something elsemust be going

> on...did you take a lot of hydrocodone/apap combo

> drugs(vicodin,lortab,etc.) when you were using

> sometimes up to 10-20/da?...if so per previous post

> liver systems can be damaged upregulating EtG

> conjugation..i might also look at drawing a cdt

> blood test to see if the % change

> will disprove EtG...that is what they did with

> me...blood test much more specific..regards,r.

>

> jhartman32001 <jhartman32001@...> wrote:

> I thought every thing was going fine, with

> etg tetsing. I have stopped taking seroquel, my 3

> recent tests have been negative. I just got a call

> that I had another positive test the highest

> 1100. I am shocked. They wanted me to go into

> another rehab, my third in 5 months. I just

> officially withdrew from ca diversion. I am scared,

> I don't know what to do. Can I work with

> my license, until probation catches up with me? If

> they do accept me into probation, how can

> I stop testing positive for etg?

>

> Please help

>

>

>

>

>

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sorry again julie...hang in there...regards,r Hartman <jhartman32001@...> wrote: Yes I took 10-20 norco's a day for 5 years. there isnothing I can do right now regarding other tests,since I have no money and I am not in a testingprogram at this time. I just talked to my husband he hasn't been the bestsupport at this time, I think he was waiting for me tosay I really relapsed. I am just so upset at thistime, I want to talk to others who have gone theprobation route.---

robin murray <remurraymd > wrote:> sorry julie about your positive...do you have a> creatinine value on that 1100?...if you had it off> the seroquel then something elsemust be going> on...did you take a lot of hydrocodone/apap combo> drugs(vicodin,lortab,etc.) when you were using> sometimes up to 10-20/da?...if so per previous post> liver systems can be damaged upregulating EtG> conjugation..i might also look at drawing a cdt> blood test to see if the % change> will disprove EtG...that is what they did with> me...blood test much more specific..regards,r.> > jhartman32001 <jhartman32001 > wrote:> I thought every thing was going fine, with> etg tetsing. I have stopped taking seroquel, my 3 > recent

tests have been negative. I just got a call> that I had another positive test the highest > 1100. I am shocked. They wanted me to go into> another rehab, my third in 5 months. I just > officially withdrew from ca diversion. I am scared,> I don't know what to do. Can I work with > my license, until probation catches up with me? If> they do accept me into probation, how can > I stop testing positive for etg?> > Please help> > > > > > __________________________________________________________Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited (http://music./unlimited)

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hey thanks robin i was just kind of curious, i know

its

" accurate " for like 80 hours but it seems that people

who metabolize faster it would be less time and slower

it would also take longer??? would that also mean that

if someone had accidental exposure and had a slow

metabolism that it would show up alot easier. sorry i

do not understand exactly how all this works. another

thing the 80 hours is that a constant i mean if somone

washed with purrell or drank a 12 pack is there a

difference or would they last the same amount of time?

i have so many questions i dont even know where to

begin!!!

--- robin murray <remurraymd@...> wrote:

> hi jason,many things can affect hepatic metabolism

> which makes this test

> so dangerous because results can vary 15X person

> to person or in fact

> in the same person due to multiple

> factors...review the posts to get an idea,

> you are right it matters very much to anyone who

> has had an innocent

> positive...regards,r

>

> jason holbrook <jholbrook42@...> wrote:

> I Have A Couple Questions What Affects The

> Etg Test I

> Mean Every One Has Different Metabolism Rate Or Does

> That Not Even Matter ?

> --- Ethylglucuronide

> <jhartman32001@...> wrote:

> > I thought every thing was going fine, with etg

> tetsing. I have stopped taki

> > ng seroquel, my 3

> > recent tests have been negative. I just got a call

> that I had another posit

> > ive test the highest

> > 1100. I am shocked. They wanted me to go into

> another rehab, my third in 5

> > months. I just

> > officially withdrew from ca diversion. I am

> scared,

> I don't know what to d

> > o. Can I work with

> > my license, until probation catches up with me? If

> they do accept me into p

> > robation, how can

> > I stop testing positive for etg?

> >

> > Please help

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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,

I'm so sorry to hear this. If your license is not suspended right now,

you can work. There is the possibility that they will suspend your

license b/c they deem you a " danger to the public " due to the positive

EtGs. I've not heard of that happening to ANYONE in nursing diversion

program who has been having problems with EtG. Has anyone else?

I can't understand why Maximus is still using EtG as the sole

determinant of relapse. My guess is that they are sending you off to

rehab in the name of " treatment " , which for them is different than

" discipline " . It is my understanding that Probation is ALL about

" discipline " and NOT about " treatment " . By the time Probation gets ahold

of you, they will HOPEFULLY know that EtG evidence will be THROWN OUT of

court. The precedence has been set.

Hang in there,

Lorie

>

> I thought every thing was going fine, with etg tetsing. I have stopped

taking seroquel, my 3

> recent tests have been negative. I just got a call that I had another

positive test the highest

> 1100. I am shocked. They wanted me to go into another rehab, my third

in 5 months. I just

> officially withdrew from ca diversion. I am scared, I don't know what

to do. Can I work with

> my license, until probation catches up with me? If they do accept me

into probation, how can

> I stop testing positive for etg?

>

> Please help

>

>

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These are interesting kinetic factors you bring up, . Look, for

example, at how long any drug will remain detectable in your body and

you will likely find a WIDE RANGE. The figure " 80 hours " is a nice round

number for marketing purposes. However, based upon differences in human

metabolism, this number is highly variable.

The drug testing industry IGNORES all of these messy metabolic factors.

After all, they operate under the premise that, since the substance is

ILLEGAL, it shouldn't be in your system in the first place, so

metabolism does not play a role. TRUE with other drugs, but b/c ethanol

is both legal AND impossible to avoid, this assumption DOESN'T work for

ethanol/EtG.

The elimination of EtG follows first order kinetics, meaning a constant

fraction of the drug in the body is eliminated per unit time. The rate

of elimination is proportional to the amount of drug in the body. It

would take some HEAVY alcohol consumption to show up 80 hours later. How

much? Too many variables...beats me.

> > > I thought every thing was going fine, with etg

> > tetsing. I have stopped taki

> > > ng seroquel, my 3

> > > recent tests have been negative. I just got a call

> > that I had another posit

> > > ive test the highest

> > > 1100. I am shocked. They wanted me to go into

> > another rehab, my third in 5

> > > months. I just

> > > officially withdrew from ca diversion. I am

> > scared,

> > I don't know what to d

> > > o. Can I work with

> > > my license, until probation catches up with me? If

> > they do accept me into p

> > > robation, how can

> > > I stop testing positive for etg?

> > >

> > > Please help

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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Wow This Whole Test Seems So Loaded I Mean I Am Kind

Of A Simpleton Compared To Most Of You It Seems But

Intelligent Enough To See That All Of This Is A Big

Crock!

--- Ethylglucuronide

<lorieg@...> wrote:

>

> These are interesting kinetic factors you bring up,

. Look, for

> example, at how long any drug will remain detectable

in your body and

> you will likely find a WIDE RANGE. The figure " 80

hours " is a nice round

> number for marketing purposes. However, based upon

differences in human

> metabolism, this number is highly variable.

>

> The drug testing industry IGNORES all of these messy

metabolic factors.

> After all, they operate under the premise that,

since the substance is

> ILLEGAL, it shouldn't be in your system in the first

place, so

> metabolism does not play a role. TRUE with other

drugs, but b/c ethanol

> is both legal AND impossible to avoid, this

assumption DOESN'T work for

> ethanol/EtG.

>

> The elimination of EtG follows first order kinetics,

meaning a constant

> fraction of the drug in the body is eliminated per

unit time. The rate

> of elimination is proportional to the amount of drug

in the body. It

> would take some HEAVY alcohol consumption to show up

80 hours later. How

> much? Too many variables...beats me.

>

>

>

> > > > I thought every thing was going fine, with etg

> > > tetsing. I have stopped taki

> > > > ng seroquel, my 3

> > > > recent tests have been negative. I just got a

call

> > > that I had another posit

> > > > ive test the highest

> > > > 1100. I am shocked. They wanted me to go into

> > > another rehab, my third in 5

> > > > months. I just

> > > > officially withdrew from ca diversion. I am

> > > scared,

> > > I don't know what to d

> > > > o. Can I work with

> > > > my license, until probation catches up with

me? If

> > > they do accept me into p

> > > > robation, how can

> > > > I stop testing positive for etg?

> > > >

> > > > Please help

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

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I found the study that gave EtG the infamous " 80 hour " moniker. It was a

drinking experiment that involved 17 people (ALL men) who consumed

60-184g of beer, spirits, and wine (by self report--That's 6-20 shots of

booze) during a 6hr " student meeting " (I think we used to call them

" keggers " or " frat parties " when I was in school...). Of the 17 guys, 3

of them still tested positive for EtG 78.5 hours after drinking stopped.

> > > > > I thought every thing was going fine, with etg

> > > > tetsing. I have stopped taki

> > > > > ng seroquel, my 3

> > > > > recent tests have been negative. I just got a

> call

> > > > that I had another posit

> > > > > ive test the highest

> > > > > 1100. I am shocked. They wanted me to go into

> > > > another rehab, my third in 5

> > > > > months. I just

> > > > > officially withdrew from ca diversion. I am

> > > > scared,

> > > > I don't know what to d

> > > > > o. Can I work with

> > > > > my license, until probation catches up with

> me? If

> > > > they do accept me into p

> > > > > robation, how can

> > > > > I stop testing positive for etg?

> > > > >

> > > > > Please help

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

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Hi , I dropped out of Diversion in California in August 2005, for

the same reasons. 9 months later I was contacted by the Dept. Of

Consumer Affairs via registered letter and given an opportunity to

cooperate in their investigation--that is, have my say to the

investigator--which I did, completely and honestly. He told me he

would then complete my file and send it on to the Board. That was

around May 2006. I've heard nothing yet, but I'm not hiding or

anything, I haven't moved or even changed phone numbers. And yes I am

working, in a job that would be diversion approved if I were still in.

So that's where I am, and I'll be sure to keep everyone posted " as

events warrant " ...don't give up. Truth, honesty, all that corny stuff

WILL PREVAIL. At any rate I can look at myself in the mirror and know

I am OK. My husband had difficulty with the whole drug situation but

has been totally supportive throughout the " ETG fiasco " . Hang in there.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~Keep the Faith~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Evil Eva

> > I thought every thing was going fine, with

> > etg tetsing. I have stopped taking seroquel, my 3

> > recent tests have been negative. I just got a call

> > that I had another positive test the highest

> > 1100. I am shocked. They wanted me to go into

> > another rehab, my third in 5 months. I just

> > officially withdrew from ca diversion. I am scared,

> > I don't know what to do. Can I work with

> > my license, until probation catches up with me? If

> > they do accept me into probation, how can

> > I stop testing positive for etg?

> >

> > Please help

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Thanks for the info. What kind of job? How soon did

they post that you are being investigated on the brn

board?

--- curlyquiz <curlyquiz@...> wrote:

> Hi , I dropped out of Diversion in California

> in August 2005, for

> the same reasons. 9 months later I was contacted by

> the Dept. Of

> Consumer Affairs via registered letter and given an

> opportunity to

> cooperate in their investigation--that is, have my

> say to the

> investigator--which I did, completely and honestly.

> He told me he

> would then complete my file and send it on to the

> Board. That was

> around May 2006. I've heard nothing yet, but I'm not

> hiding or

> anything, I haven't moved or even changed phone

> numbers. And yes I am

> working, in a job that would be diversion approved

> if I were still in.

> So that's where I am, and I'll be sure to keep

> everyone posted " as

> events warrant " ...don't give up. Truth, honesty, all

> that corny stuff

> WILL PREVAIL. At any rate I can look at myself in

> the mirror and know

> I am OK. My husband had difficulty with the whole

> drug situation but

> has been totally supportive throughout the " ETG

> fiasco " . Hang in there.

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~Keep the

> Faith~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Evil Eva

>

>

>

>

> > > I thought every thing was going fine,

> with

> > > etg tetsing. I have stopped taking seroquel, my

> 3

> > > recent tests have been negative. I just got a

> call

> > > that I had another positive test the highest

> > > 1100. I am shocked. They wanted me to go into

> > > another rehab, my third in 5 months. I just

> > > officially withdrew from ca diversion. I am

> scared,

> > > I don't know what to do. Can I work with

> > > my license, until probation catches up with me?

> If

> > > they do accept me into probation, how can

> > > I stop testing positive for etg?

> > >

> > > Please help

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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hi again jason you are correct basically varies with amount and rate,but varies exponentially making it oversensitive and incorrect a lot kind of like most alcoholic/ addicts i know including myself...i know the whole thing boggles the mind but if you go way back and review the posts you will gradually figure it out..regards,r Ethyl glucuronide 3–4 days (half-life 2–3 h) Identifies even low–level consumption Can be measured in urine or hairjason holbrook

<jholbrook42@...> wrote: hey thanks robin i was just kind of curious, i knowits"accurate" for like 80 hours but it seems that peoplewho metabolize faster it would be less time and slowerit would also take longer??? would that also mean thatif someone had accidental exposure and had a slowmetabolism that it would show up alot easier. sorry ido not understand exactly how all this works. anotherthing the 80 hours is that a constant i mean if somonewashed with purrell or drank a 12 pack is there

adifference or would they last the same amount of time?i have so many questions i dont even know where tobegin!!!--- robin murray <remurraymd > wrote:> hi jason,many things can affect hepatic metabolism> which makes this test> so dangerous because results can vary 15X person> to person or in fact> in the same person due to multiple> factors...review the posts to get an idea,> you are right it matters very much to anyone who> has had an innocent> positive...regards,r > > jason holbrook <jholbrook42 > wrote:> I Have A Couple Questions What Affects The> Etg Test I> Mean Every One Has Different Metabolism Rate Or Does> That Not Even Matter ?> --- Ethylglucuronide > <jhartman32001 > wrote:> > I thought every thing was going fine, with etg> tetsing. I have stopped taki> > ng seroquel, my 3 > > recent tests have been negative. I just got a call> that I had another posit> > ive test the highest > > 1100. I am shocked. They wanted me to go into> another rehab, my third in 5 > > months. I just > > officially withdrew from ca diversion. I am> scared,> I don't know what to d> > o. Can I work with > > my license, until probation catches up with me? If> they do accept me into p> > robation, how can > > I stop testing positive for etg?> > > > Please help> > > > > > >

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you are far wiser than you know jason...it is kind of an emperor's clothing kind of deal..regards,rjason holbrook <jholbrook42@...> wrote: Wow This Whole Test Seems So Loaded I Mean I Am KindOf A Simpleton Compared To Most Of You It Seems ButIntelligent Enough To See That All Of This Is A BigCrock!--- Ethylglucuronide <lorieglanset> wrote:> > These are

interesting kinetic factors you bring up,. Look, for> example, at how long any drug will remain detectablein your body and> you will likely find a WIDE RANGE. The figure "80hours" is a nice round> number for marketing purposes. However, based upondifferences in human> metabolism, this number is highly variable.> > The drug testing industry IGNORES all of these messymetabolic factors.> After all, they operate under the premise that,since the substance is> ILLEGAL, it shouldn't be in your system in the firstplace, so> metabolism does not play a role. TRUE with otherdrugs, but b/c ethanol> is both legal AND impossible to avoid, thisassumption DOESN'T work for> ethanol/EtG.> > The elimination of EtG follows first order kinetics,meaning a constant> fraction of the drug in the body is eliminated perunit time. The rate> of

elimination is proportional to the amount of drugin the body. It> would take some HEAVY alcohol consumption to show up80 hours later. How> much? Too many variables...beats me.> > > > > > > I thought every thing was going fine, with etg> > > tetsing. I have stopped taki> > > > ng seroquel, my 3> > > > recent tests have been negative. I just got acall> > > that I had another posit> > > > ive test the highest> > > > 1100. I am shocked. They wanted me to go into> > > another rehab, my third in 5> > > > months. I just> > > > officially withdrew from ca diversion. I am> > > scared,> > > I don't know what to d> > > > o. Can I work with> > > > my license, until probation catches up

withme? If> > > they do accept me into p> > > > robation, how can> > > > I stop testing positive for etg?> > > >> > > > Please help> > > > > > > >> > > >> > >=== Message Truncated === __________________________________________________________Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business (http://smallbusiness.)