Guest guest Posted February 1, 2000 Report Share Posted February 1, 2000 Thanks to those who replied, I think I am leaning towards the beck machine (Silver Pulser) because a) it is dual purpose pulser (zapper) and col. silver maker and because no additional herbs, medicines, etc. is required. Can any one who has a Pulser or Silver Pulser give me some feed back. are you out there, what do you think... Thanks ------------------------------------------------------ This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original and any copy of any e-mail and any printout thereof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2000 Report Share Posted February 1, 2000 I was wondering if I could get a phone number or a website on where to find out more info on Dr. Beck Silver Pulser or e's Zapper or where to purchase them? thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2000 Report Share Posted March 9, 2000 Hi , I haven't read the books you mentioned.But I will. Also don't know about naturpath Dr. but as soon as I get better from this last surgery I will look into it.My results came back and once again I am very lucky! Non cancerous tumors!!yeah! Just another scar, I have had a great recovery! Even sick as i have always been i feel lucky to still be Zesty:) Thank you for sharing with me. Rita I am also learning a lot from this list, what a blessing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2000 Report Share Posted June 10, 2000 At 09:21 AM 6/10/00 +0000, you wrote: >I'd like to make salves and creams but I do not have a scale. Do I >absolutely need one or is there some way I can convert the pounds and ounces >in recipes to a liquid measurement? you really DO need a scale... every oil and every essential oil (and I would suppose fragrance oils, as well) has a different specific gravity, which means that 16 ounces of one oil might only be 15 fluid ounces, or might be 17 or 18... you can't just translate from weight to volume with anything except water. I recently bought five pounds of essential oil....should = 5.16 ounces, when measured, right? (or 10 cups.) or 80 ounces. measured out to 96 fluid ounces... which is why using weight, rather than volume to measure is more accurate. Your source for superb Essential Oils, Aromatherapy Accessories, Information, Books and more! Visit us at: <http://www.naturesgift.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2000 Report Share Posted June 11, 2000 Hi Everyone, I am . I am knew to all of this, but I am going to start making my own soaps, candles, oils and so on. If you have any recipes or any advice for me please email me. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2000 Report Share Posted June 12, 2000 Hi , You may have already heard this, but definetly go check out the toiletries library. There is a ton of recipes, business info, suppliers, and a lot more. Have Fun! And let us know if you need any help. ~ http://www.luxurylane.com/thelibrary/index.htm --- sarah2kev@... wrote: > Hi Everyone, I am . I am knew to all of this, > but I am going to start > making my own soaps, candles, oils and so on. If you > have any recipes or any > advice for me please email me. Thanks. > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2001 Report Share Posted March 3, 2001 > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 20:01:59 -0600 > From: " " <snakedancerr@...> > Subject: Re: h202 > > it wasn't until I started drinking h2o2 that my skin changed > dramatically to > being as soft as a baby's butt. I got the same effect from taking Microhydrin, and that occurred in a couple of days - See http://www.homestead.com/gemjobs/micro.html ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2001 Report Share Posted March 4, 2001 > > it wasn't until I started drinking h2o2 that my skin changed > > dramatically to > > being as soft as a baby's butt. > > I got the same effect from taking Microhydrin, and that occurred in a > couple of days I've been taking Microhydrin for a few months and have never had this effect on my skin... Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2001 Report Share Posted March 4, 2001 , If you are a MLM dealer, please disclose that fact. Chuck No matter how cynical you get, it's impossible to keep up! On Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:30:01 -0800, L Spignesi <andrea531@...> wrote: > >> >________________________________________________________________________ >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 20:01:59 -0600 >> From: " " <snakedancerr@...> >> Subject: Re: h202 >> > >> it wasn't until I started drinking h2o2 that my skin changed >> dramatically to >> being as soft as a baby's butt. > >I got the same effect from taking Microhydrin, and that occurred in a >couple of days - See http://www.homestead.com/gemjobs/micro.html >________________________________________________________________ >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2001 Report Share Posted September 24, 2001 Carole wrote that she has found help in pain clinics. I was referred to a pain management Dr. last year, and the only thing he did was give me 2 S.I. joint injections, and 2 epidurals. After enduring these 4 injections, which were painful, but Fully Bearable, if they had provided any relief, he told me that their was nothing else that he does. I asked about medications, and was told to talk to my primary care doctor. I have talked to my primary care Dr., and am currently taking Vioxx, and Ultram. I also take vicodene almost every evening because I am in pain. I've had a terrible time trying to fall asleep for the last month. This in turn makes me cranky in the morning. I guess I should back up and say that I have an S shaped curve, with 2 curves being at 53, and 56 degrees. I have a failed fusion from when I was an early teenager. This was done with No instrumentation, such as harrington rods. Now, in my 40's, I'm having a lot of pain and problems. A neurologist/Surgeon told me that I would need A/P surgery but that he would Not recommend it at this time, as he didn't think that he could get much correction, and he couldn't guarentee that the pain would be any better either. He was not a SRS Dr., and I'm asking my primary care Dr. for a referral, but their are no SRS Doctors participating in our plan, Health-Plus. Meanwhile, I'm living a pretty quiet life, ie not doing much at all, otherwise I am in constant pain. I've thought of asking my Dr. to put me on oxycontin so that I could be more active. Does oxy make you drowsy? Also, what does your pain management doc's do to help you? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Bonnie K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2001 Report Share Posted September 24, 2001 Bonnie, There aredifferent type pain management doctors. The one you saw must be an anasteia (sp). They mostly put people to sleep for surgery. I would not recommend them because the shots are all they can do. Mine has his degree in physical medicine and he placed me on oxycontin. (My PCP cannot order it.) If a person is on the correct dose, it does not put one to sleep nor make one really drowsy. On the other hand, if taken and one goes directly to bed, it does help with sleep. Confusing? That's the way it works for me anyhow. The pills are taken 12 hours apart. During the day, I have a 3rd available to take when I need it for break-through pain. That's because I was on 20 mg. tablets and have decreased it to 10 mg. ===== Jeanette __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2001 Report Share Posted September 24, 2001 You could ask to try Elavil. A very low dose of Elavil will act on the pain and make you drowsy that the same time. I find that the Elavil prevents my muscles from going into spasm when I twist or turn the wrong way. I use MS Contin daily in addition to the Elavil. In addition Elavil is also an anti-depressant although not so much at lower doses but it is a really good drug for certain types of pain. So there are three benefits to it that I can see. I wouldn't recommend pain specialists who are also an anesthetist. I haven't had much luck with those sorts as they are pretty specific in what they do. However they are sometimes the only people available. Personally the shots in the back didn't do anything but flare up the situation every single time. I stopped them after a few weeks. I find that getting muscle stimulation from a physiotherapist much more beneficial. Once the muscle is relaxed and not in spasm the pain is a whole lot more tolerable and you only need to deal with the instantaneous pain one gets when you contact a nerve by bending or twisting. The Elavil is excellent for this too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2001 Report Share Posted September 24, 2001 In a message dated 9/24/01 5:47:38 PM Central Daylight Time, legerpj@... writes: > You could ask to try Elavil. A very low dose of Elavil will act on > the pain and make you drowsy that the same time. I find that the > Elavil prevents my muscles from going into spasm when I twist or turn > the wrong way. I use MS Contin daily in addition to the Elavil. This drug has helped me. I have noticed a big difference sice starting it a few months ago. Keeps the spasms from being as frequent or as intense, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2001 Report Share Posted September 28, 2001 I was originally referring to Pain " Clinics " . In the clinic I attended there were all sorts of disciplines represented. Yes, injections were used, depending upon the problem. Also used were infusions, accupuncture, support group therapy, medication, intrathecal baclofen therapy, etc. One had to have a little patience in order to find the exact combination of medication and/or treatment, but the word " chronic " was not treated like a dirty word, as it is sometimes. This was an outpatient clinic and I know of at least two of them in my area. Some have pretty rigid contracts regarding the use of pain killing drugs but, hey, they do make them available. has certainly found his combination and has been able to keep it very sensible at the same time. That is great! Many of the antidepressant type medications really do help with pain control, and there are many reasons why they are worth trying. I surely hope we all find a way to get relief! I know that my pain is nearly unbearable at night! I will look for a way to control it but, at this point, I'm almost more curious why it is happening. Carole ----Original Message Follows---- From: " Leger " <legerpj@...> Reply-Scoliosis Treatment Scoliosis Treatment Subject: Re: Digest Number 289 Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 22:42:41 -0000 You could ask to try Elavil. A very low dose of Elavil will act on the pain and make you drowsy that the same time. I find that the Elavil prevents my muscles from going into spasm when I twist or turn the wrong way. I use MS Contin daily in addition to the Elavil. In addition Elavil is also an anti-depressant although not so much at lower doses but it is a really good drug for certain types of pain. So there are three benefits to it that I can see. I wouldn't recommend pain specialists who are also an anesthetist. I haven't had much luck with those sorts as they are pretty specific in what they do. However they are sometimes the only people available. Personally the shots in the back didn't do anything but flare up the situation every single time. I stopped them after a few weeks. I find that getting muscle stimulation from a physiotherapist much more beneficial. Once the muscle is relaxed and not in spasm the pain is a whole lot more tolerable and you only need to deal with the instantaneous pain one gets when you contact a nerve by bending or twisting. The Elavil is excellent for this too... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2002 Report Share Posted February 13, 2002 Hi Everyone, Sorry I've missed so much but I've been slammed at work. My son is in denial of his hep c also. He barely speaks of it and hasn't made his appointment for the specialist. I offered to do it for him but got no response. Now its time to let go. I'm giving up the same for lent......ribovarin and rebetron. I go for my 3 mos. test at the beginning of next month. Terry, I'm so glad you finally slept. I remember how I felt when I first started tx and couldn't sleep. I felt like crying all the time (and sometimes did). My sleep pattern has just returned to normal. I've stopped the trazadone and can now fall asleep quickly (and earlier than ever). I don't know, I think the tx does something permanent. I am still very tired more than I think I should be. Any other comments on that? I sometimes fear that the hep-c is still there and detectable and that is why i'm tired. Thanks everyone for being such a wonderful group. Vicky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2002 Report Share Posted February 13, 2002 I am still tired much of the time, although I have marked improvement. I know what you mean though, every time I have a pain in my right side, I think that dragon is creeping back... Just got to keep going, I guess and hope for the best.. -dz- --- VicLea227@... wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Sorry I've missed so much but I've been > slammed at work. My son is in > denial of his hep c also. He barely speaks of it > and hasn't made his > appointment for the specialist. I offered to do it > for him but got no > response. Now its time to let go. I'm giving up > the same for > lent......ribovarin and rebetron. I go for my 3 > mos. test at the beginning > of next month. Terry, I'm so glad you finally > slept. I remember how I felt > when I first started tx and couldn't sleep. I felt > like crying all the time > (and sometimes did). My sleep pattern has just > returned to normal. I've > stopped the trazadone and can now fall asleep > quickly (and earlier than > ever). I don't know, I think the tx does something > permanent. I am still > very tired more than I think I should be. Any other > comments on that? I > sometimes fear that the hep-c is still there and > detectable and that is why > i'm tired. Thanks everyone for being such a > wonderful group. > > Vicky > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2002 Report Share Posted February 13, 2002 Sounds like inflammation to me Dave..Be careful ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2002 Report Share Posted February 14, 2002 Yes Dave back off the chips... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2002 Report Share Posted February 14, 2002 I'm trying. Does that mean to go easy on the jalapeno potato chips? The pains are very seldom (as they always were) but very sharp for an instant. -dz- --- Jannewilms42@... wrote: > Sounds like inflammation to me Dave..Be careful ok > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2002 Report Share Posted February 14, 2002 --- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote: > I'm trying. Does that mean to go easy on the > jalapeno > potato chips? The pains are very seldom (as they > always were) but very sharp for an instant. -dz- > > --- Jannewilms42@... wrote: > > Sounds like inflammation to me Dave..Be careful ok I have never been in a support group before, so this is new to me. I have tried to handle my illness myself which has been highly ineffective for the most part. What are these pains ?? Because I have alot of pain that is on and off, but my Doctors have insisted there are no symptoms. Honestly I believe they are full of it. How could they know how it is since they dont have Chronic HCV. > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2002 Report Share Posted February 14, 2002 Jan, Double trouble is back... ;o Get the heck away from them chips girl!!!!!! Angel Hugs, Diane May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, Hope, Peace & Unity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2002 Report Share Posted February 15, 2002 BINGO!!! You got that one right off. The dr's all say these things aren't hcv related, yet we all know that we never had them before. They just can't figure out why they happen so they don't admit that they do. -dz- --- Tony <net34us@...> wrote: > > --- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote: > > I'm trying. Does that mean to go easy on the > > jalapeno > > potato chips? The pains are very seldom (as they > > always were) but very sharp for an instant. -dz- > > > > --- Jannewilms42@... wrote: > > > Sounds like inflammation to me Dave..Be careful > ok > I have never been in a support group before, so this > is new to me. I have tried to handle my illness > myself > which has been highly ineffective for the most part. > What are these pains ?? Because I have alot of pain > that is on and off, but my Doctors have insisted > there > are no symptoms. Honestly I believe they are full of > it. How could they know how it is since they dont > have > Chronic HCV. > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2002 Report Share Posted February 26, 2002 Bills Platelets were down to 23,000. As long as we keep his liver functions down he wont need a transplant. God willing using alternative treatment and a healthy lifestyle will keep this under control. I have him on the Milk Thistle and Alpha lipoic Acid, N-Acetylcystine, Vit E, Vit B complex, Selenium, Flax Seed Oil(for the RA), Vit C Crystals(they are buffered so the stomach can absorb it better and not cause him to keep running to the bathroom), Zinc, Calcium, Magnesium, Burdock Root. I have to look into the Aloe Vera and Liverite. I was also going to add Baical Skullcap and Bupleurum. I have been using the book " Herbs for Hepatitis C and the Liver " , put out by A Storey Medicinal Herb Guide. This book goes into great detail on exactly what the supplement will do for your liver and immune system, what dosage to take and side effects if any. I recommend it to all of you that are willing to try the alternative. I am looking for a book like that for RA, but most of them do not say what effects the herbs and nutritional supplements have on the liver. Both Bill & I agree that his RA doctor is not the one for us. We are really limited in our area on RA docs. You would think that in FLA there would be an overload of them. The ones in our area do not believe in alternative medicine. It's a shame! Thanks to all of you for your input. God Bless! & Bill [ ] Digest Number 289 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2002 Report Share Posted February 26, 2002 tracy and bill what part of fla. are you in ... i'm in fla. also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2002 Report Share Posted February 27, 2002 Hi , Do NOT go by only his liver function tests, especially if you are talking about the ALT and AST. They are not completely reliable in anyone, but they are especially not reliable in someone with advanced liver disease. If they drop down to normal levels that might only mean that he doesn't have enough healthy liver cells left to be inflammed and release those enzymes into the blood stream in amounts high enough to be considered abnormal. It is very common in people with cirrhosis to have normal liver enzyme levels. I'm just saying that in addition to using alternatives, make sure he is being followed medically by someone who is an expert in liver diseases! Much more than just elevated liver enzymes need to be monitored. It sounds to me like you have picked some good alternatives. The only thing I would question is the skullcap as it has been implicated in causing liver problems, although I have my doubts that small, occasional use is a problem. I used it for years on and off to help me relax and sleep before I knew I had hepatitis. Of course, everyone is different too, and I had very little liver damage at that time. You might look into an oriental alternative medicine, TJ9 (sho-saiko-to). I don't really know much about it, but some research done at the University of Florida has indicated it may improve fibrosis in HCV. Good luck! Claudine __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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