Raw Meat

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In a message dated 11/28/03 5:14:35 PM Eastern Standard Time,

cyndy@... writes:

> So, it's been about six months since I started following NT, and I have

> fully embraced

> it except the raw meat part... How many of you really eat raw meat and if

> so, in what

> form? I'm having a hard time accepting this part and I am questioning

> whether I'm

> really missing all that much nutritional benefit by continuing to eat only

> cooked meat.

> I have felt so much better since merely eating more meat... I would love to

> know what

> you all practice and what you all think about the benefits (and risks?) and

> whether or

> not it's actually tasty!

Cyndy,

I suggest grass-fed buffalo swiss steak. Just put some salt on it. Or, I

also thought it was tasty marinated in homemade cream cheese, with a little

salt, and a little less so marinated in raw honey. I think it would be great

with

a honey mustard sauce but haven't tried it.

The benefits of raw meat are unique.

Chris

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I eat it on occasion, it tatses good actually depending on what you add to it

(I like chives, fine chopped shallots and truffle oil and have used that with

raw venison and bison) used to eat raw meats all the time when I was on a

Primal diet.

Elainie

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cyndy,

i recently began eating raw liver and i love it!!

for me the natural time to eat it, is before dinner (as an hour-

d'ouervre). i also eat bits of raw onion with it. it is great to

nibble on while preparing dinner!!

the way to prepare is as follows:

1)obtain a liver from a grass-fed animal.

2)freeze for 14 days. (this kills parasites)

3)slice off a chunk and let thaw in fridge.

4)make 1/4 inch slices of the thawed liver and put in a little bowl

with lemon juice for 1-2 hours, or so. if you are pressed for time,

you can also take slices of the frozen liver and put in lemon juice.

i am finding this to be incredibly good for me. i only eat a bit-

maybe 3 or 4 slices. i also find the taste to be far better than that

of cooked liver (which i don't so much love).

i approach this like fresh fruit- eat 10-20 minutes before the meal.

good luck,

cric johnson

> So, it's been about six months since I started following NT, and I

have fully embraced

> it except the raw meat part... How many of you really eat raw meat

and if so, in what

> form? I'm having a hard time accepting this part and I am

questioning whether I'm

> really missing all that much nutritional benefit by continuing to

eat only cooked meat.

> I have felt so much better since merely eating more meat... I would

love to know what

> you all practice and what you all think about the benefits (and

risks?) and whether or

> not it's actually tasty!

>

> - Cyndy

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> So, it's been about six months since I started following NT, and I

have fully embraced

> it except the raw meat part... How many of you really eat raw meat

and if so, in what

> form? I'm having a hard time accepting this part and I am

questioning whether I'm

> really missing all that much nutritional benefit by continuing to

eat only cooked meat.

> I have felt so much better since merely eating more meat... I would

love to know what

> you all practice and what you all think about the benefits (and

risks?) and whether or

> not it's actually tasty!

>

> - Cyndy

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I only started to seriously think about eating raw meat about 6

months after first studying NT, which was basically the first time in

my life I'd ever heard of eating raw meat. The tacit assumption in

my worldview up to then was that you'd instantly die or something

from eating raw meat; that it was a shocking and unfathomable act.

When I discovered I had an ideal local source for meat, I decided to

go for it, and it was unbelievably delicious, like candy (it was

beef). That was about 11 months ago, and I've been eating raw meat

virtually everyday since then. Actually, that was the first time in

my life I ever purchased meat, except for restaurants. (I've never

hesitated to eat meat, but I essentially wasn't eating any for about

a year or so). Since raw meat it tastes so good and is more

nutritious (possibly only by a small margin, but possibly by a

significant margin), I try to avoid cooked meat as much as possible

now, except pork, which I eat once in a while and am still nervous

about eating raw. I'll wait till I find an ideal source (pretty

difficult). I would advise against freezing it, because you lose

nutrients and flavor, and it's probably better to keep the micro-

organisms alive than kill them; from everything I've encountered,

parasites don't seem to be an issue worth paying much attention to,

and the bacteria in raw meat are definitely nutritious. Plus, it is

sometimes claimed that the effects of freezing are of dubious

thoroughness in eliminating undesirable micro-organisms. I think

only a small percentage of people who follow NT eat raw meat. Hmmm,

we should have a poll! (But hardly anyone voted on the cod liver oil

poll, so I'm not sure if I want to bother.)

I usually eat it plain, unmarinaded, sometimes mixed in with a salad,

except I've successfully preserved raw meat in whey for a number of

weeks to avoid freezing it, and I've mixed it with sauerkraut a

number of times. I've never tried any lime/lemon/vinegar soaks or

combinations with oils.

I recommend raw heart for flavor and tenderness.

By the way, I ate a raw turkey gizzard the other day, and it was

FANTASTIC!! It was like very mild red meat, and it was very tender,

despite coming from an organ with some very tough sections (which I

didn't try to eat).

Mike

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My favorite is raw chicken. I slice it thin and marinade it in lemon juice.

Then I add chopped onion or garlic and eat it with a little raw cream.

Irene

At 02:10 PM 11/28/03, you wrote:

>So, it's been about six months since I started following NT, and I have

>fully embraced

>it except the raw meat part... How many of you really eat raw meat and if

>so, in what

>form? I'm having a hard time accepting this part and I am questioning

>whether I'm

>really missing all that much nutritional benefit by continuing to eat only

>cooked meat.

>I have felt so much better since merely eating more meat... I would love

>to know what

>you all practice and what you all think about the benefits (and risks?)

>and whether or

>not it's actually tasty!

>

>- Cyndy

>

>

>

>

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Instead of meat (for the squeemish) you can start with raw egg and raw

salmon eggs.

Then move on to other foods (I'd start with marinated meat first) then

proceed to fresh meat with seasonings (carpaccio style). I also don't like to

freeze meat before I eat it.

Elainie

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> So, it's been about six months since I started following NT, and I

have fully embraced

> it except the raw meat part... How many of you really eat raw meat

and if so, in what

> form? I'm having a hard time accepting this part and I am

questioning whether I'm

> really missing all that much nutritional benefit by continuing to

eat only cooked meat.

> I have felt so much better since merely eating more meat... I would

love to know what

> you all practice and what you all think about the benefits (and

risks?) and whether or

> not it's actually tasty!

----I just started eating some raw grassfed hamburger, and it's not

too bad (see previous post " some random thoughts " ). I read an

excerpt from Aajonus Vonderplanitz's book, and it got me thinking.

What I've learned through muscle testing (so it only refers to me

personally), is that I need to consume some raw protein and fat, but

that cooked food is OK, too (thank heavens... an entirely raw diet

would be difficult with my anti-NT hubby). What I find is this...

raw is best, then cured raw, like traditionally cured (with a

culture) hard salami, and then cooked. And cooked is only bad if it

is your sole source of protein and fat. I eat raw fats in the form

of Butter oil and coconut oil every morning, and with the occasional

meal of raw meat, plus fresh fruit every day, I feel I'm getting a

healthy amount of raw foods. I've got some grassfed beef liver in

the freezer, but am not ready to try raw liver yet. I think I'll try

the NT liver rice recipe first and see how it goes.

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My cats hunt daily and eat their prey (mice, rabbits, birds and even

squirrels) but we still give them raw meat, egg etc... one has had a few

tapeworm

problems. Thay also get supplements (probiotics, enzymes etc...)

Elainie

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Interesting as we do give them raw liver and they eat the livers they catch

as well.

Only one cat has had this problem but he was also bornhaving roundworms. We

nursed him back to health (he was a frail little kitten) with raw foods and

love and he looks great (beautiful fur, clear eyes etc..) but he has had

tapeworms 3 times already (in 3 years)

Elainie

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ah... I'm trying to convince myself to head down that track.

What I am doing to get there is to have my steak less and less cooked.

I'm at that point now where the steak is best classified as between blue

and rare. And I'm going to see if my local Japanese place can give me a

selection of raw fish to eat every week.

.... as a side note - I hope all you guys with dogs and cats also have

them on an appropriate raw diet, and are not feeding any kibble or

canned food. check this out: http://www.rawlearning.com

cheers,

Jane

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--- In , Jane <janej@t...>

wrote:

> ... as a side note - I hope all you guys with dogs and cats

> also have them on an appropriate raw diet, and are not feeding

> any kibble or canned food.

As far as raw meat is concerned, our kitties are much more interested

in what they catch themselves than any raw meat I've put out for

them. So, they get kibble in the house, and mice, birds, snakes,

frogs, etc. when they go out hunting.

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My cats tapeworm problem went away when I started feeding her raw liver.

Irene

At 01:28 PM 11/29/03, you wrote:

>My cats hunt daily and eat their prey (mice, rabbits, birds and even

>squirrels) but we still give them raw meat, egg etc... one has had a few

>tapeworm

>problems. Thay also get supplements (probiotics, enzymes etc...)

>

>Elainie

>

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Tapeworm in pets is usually contracted via the ingestion of infected fleas.

This can be from they prey they eat, or from fleas they consume while grooming.

Canines don't always consume fleas or prey, but they do have the lovely habit of

consuming infected feces quite often. I do not know of any herbal remedies for

tapeworm off hand....I live in a fairly flea free climate...but I know there are

some out there if you do a search.

Re: Re: raw meat

My cats hunt daily and eat their prey (mice, rabbits, birds and even

squirrels) but we still give them raw meat, egg etc... one has had a few

tapeworm

problems. Thay also get supplements (probiotics, enzymes etc...)

Elainie

[Guest guest]

Thanks, I was also under the impression that the mice is the host of the flea

tapeworm etc.. We gave him the regular meds for it.

Elainie

[Guest guest]

Raw Meat is yummy! And can be prepared for the faint of heart many ways

by adding herbs, green onions, garlic, cayenne pepper, and so on.

What is the point of eating Cooked meat - or worse yet, done to death

meat? All the benefits such as enzyemes are destroyed by cooking. The

meat protein becomes indigestible. As I also think that man did not

evolve to eat veggies and grains, I try to consume as much Raw Meat as I

can.

I draw the line on such raw meats as pork, and chicken but do enjoy some

raw fish if prepared such as marinating in herbs and oils.

Do I worry about parasites? I consider them a health hazzard but 85% of

the population has parasites in one form or another. They can be dealt

with and should be dealt with on at least a yearly basis. A total

cleanse with herbs and an herbal parasite cleanse is recommended even

for vegetarians - most all of us have parasites. Don't worry about the,

just deal with them, they are a fact of life.

My opinion but I back up my own consumption of raw meat with lots of

reading on evolutionary diets.

As far as pasta is concerned, I wouldn't touch it with a 10 ft pole.

Grains - I consume sparingly. try to eat only sprouted grain breads and

just a little rice occasionally..All dairy products that I consume are

RAW. I wouldn't drink pasturized/homogenized milk no matter what the

circumstances.

This might be wrong for you, but it works for me and my sister. At 74

and my sister at 77, we have no chronic diseases, take no prescription

drugs for anything nor any OTC drugs either. We do love veggies but

only lightly steamed sometimes. Eat lots of organic salads with good

oils and herbs.

Hugs and love,

Anne

VA USA

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,

Right now I'm eating all my meat raw (though only from animals that are

either pasture-fed or organic) as I find it much easier to digest than

cooked meat. (I'm getting on in years and my digestive powers are

definitely limited.) I'm not able to eat any of it " straight " but I do

enjoy it a lot with a sauce of sour cream, honey, and ginger. The

ingredients of this sauce seem very much to help with my digestion as well.

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On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 22:27:36 -0000, shawnalendzion

<recon@...> wrote:

> That's something I should try. I have actually never had oysters, but

> I will gladly try them out for a deal!

a,

I tried oysters for the first time about a year ago (they had

previously been in the " ew gross " category.) Needless to say, I'm a

convert and order them at high-end restaurants whenever they are on

the menu. Recs: go with someone who already likes them; don't order

any from the Gulf of Mexico (people I know got very sick...); order

some nice, icy champagne to go with 'em! Mmmmmmmm I think I need to

get me some this week.