Cancer spread to the spine, hip bone and sternum

[Guest guest]

By the BMT sounds like you are doing good. Keep up on the Essiac for sure. Juicing fresh organic fruits and veggies is excellent. Look into super green foods as well like wheat grass, barley grass, chlorella, spirulina and purple dulse. Astragulus is an adaptogen, which means it will adapt to help where ever needed in her body and boost her immune system. Keep us posted on how she is doing.

Janet

----- Original Message -----

From: oldglory@...

health

Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 5:28 PM

Subject: Cancer spread to the spine, hip bone and sternum

Hi,Eight years ago my Mother had a lumpectomy for breast cancer. The doctor said he got it all. Five years later her doctor retired and referred her to another cancer doctor for periodic check ups. The new doctor asked how long it had been since her operation and when told five years, he said to not come to see him because she was cured. Three years later Mother was having great pain and difficulty with her hip. One doctor said an inflamed bursa and it didn't respond to treatment. The next doctor said arthritis and it didn't respond to treatment. It was nearly impossible for her to walk by this time. I insisted on an X-ray which showed her hip bone eaten up 90% or more and in grave danger of breaking any moment. She had emergency surgery to drive a rod down the thigh bone and a pin to hold it all together. This stopped most of the awful pain and she healed very well.Naturally when we went for her first appointment after the surgery (she dismissed chemo and radiation), I asked the doctor about using a heating pad for I'd read viruses were sensitive to heat. He hesitated a long moment and then said, Sure. After that, any question we asked was met with, Sure. Later I found out the reason for him saying anything was OK to try is, there is no cure for cancer in the bones, or such a small percentage that it is nearly 100% fatal.We've been going to Abilene once a month for some time now and having blood marker tests. When Mother had her operation around Feb. 1st, her blood marker test was at 83 and last month it was at 47. I understand anything over 35 indicates cancer so when we went to her doctor's place 9 days ago, they drew blood. Five phone calls later I accidentally connected with the head nurse who had not returned any of my phone calls and messages, asking for information. She said they didn't do the blood marker test the last time, just a kidney test. Long story short, I was pretty peeved and downright irritable. We will go to another doctor tomorrow to have her blood drawn. We have to know if what we are doing is in the right direction and without the blood marker test, we have no clue.My question is, does anyone know anything that can be done for this kind of cancer that we aren't doing? We are doing ESSIAC, Platinum and Selenium colloidal water, Artemisinin, cottage cheese and flaxseed oil and far infrared pad. I'm forgetting a few things but have researched quite a bit.We are planning on trying the Breuss vegetable juice diet if we can get all the vegetables (beets, celeraic, black radishes and potatoes and carrots. Does anyone have any good information on this diet. Supposedly in 42 days all the cancer will be gone without the sugar, carbs and especially protein.Thank you for any help or information!Baugh

[Guest guest]

I thought adaptogenic herbs would all stimulate the immune system because they are adaptive, and most problems in the body go through the immune system at some point in the cycle. Could be over thinking it though hehe.

Janet

----- Original Message -----

From: Don Quai

health

Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 12:18 PM

Subject: Re: Cancer spread to the spine, hip bone and sternum

Anyone know if Astragalus is stimulating to the immune system? Anyone know of any adaptogenic herbs that aren't stimulating to the immune system? Just curious.Peace, love and light,Don Quai"Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man."Janet Seidlitz wrote:> By the BMT sounds like you are doing good. Keep up on the Essiac for > sure. Juicing fresh organic fruits and veggies is excellent. Look into > super green foods as well like wheat grass, barley grass, chlorella, > spirulina and purple dulse. Astragulus is an adaptogen, which means it > will adapt to help where ever needed in her body and boost her immune > system. Keep us posted on how she is doing.> > Janet>> ----- Original Message -----> *From:* oldglory@... <mailto:oldglory@...>> *To:* health > <mailto:health >> *Sent:* Friday, May 14, 2004 5:28 PM> *Subject:* Cancer spread to the spine, hip> bone and sternum>> Hi,>> Eight years ago my Mother had a lumpectomy for breast cancer. The> doctor said he got it all. >> Five years later her doctor retired and referred her to another> cancer doctor for periodic check ups. The new doctor asked how> long it had been since her operation and when told five years, he> said to not come to see him because she was cured. >> Three years later Mother was having great pain and difficulty with> her hip. One doctor said an inflamed bursa and it didn't respond> to treatment. The next doctor said arthritis and it didn't> respond to treatment. It was nearly impossible for her to walk by> this time. I insisted on an X-ray which showed her hip bone eaten> up 90% or more and in grave danger of breaking any moment. She> had emergency surgery to drive a rod down the thigh bone and a pin> to hold it all together. This stopped most of the awful pain and> she healed very well.>> Naturally when we went for her first appointment after the surgery> (she dismissed chemo and radiation), I asked the doctor about> using a heating pad for I'd read viruses were sensitive to heat.> He hesitated a long moment and then said, Sure. After that, any> question we asked was met with, Sure. Later I found out the> reason for him saying anything was OK to try is, there is no cure> for cancer in the bones, or such a small percentage that it is> nearly 100% fatal.>> We've been going to Abilene once a month for some time now and> having blood marker tests. When Mother had her operation around> Feb. 1st, her blood marker test was at 83 and last month it was> at 47. I understand anything over 35 indicates cancer so when we> went to her doctor's place 9 days ago, they drew blood. Five> phone calls later I accidentally connected with the head nurse who> had not returned any of my phone calls and messages, asking for> information. She said they didn't do the blood marker test the> last time, just a kidney test. Long story short, I was pretty> peeved and downright irritable. We will go to another doctor> tomorrow to have her blood drawn. We have to know if what we are> doing is in the right direction and without the blood marker test,> we have no clue.>> My question is, does anyone know anything that can be done for> this kind of cancer that we aren't doing? We are doing ESSIAC,> Platinum and Selenium colloidal water, Artemisinin, cottage cheese> and flaxseed oil and far infrared pad. I'm forgetting a few> things but have researched quite a bit.>> We are planning on trying the Breuss vegetable juice diet if we> can get all the vegetables (beets, celeraic, black radishes and> potatoes and carrots. Does anyone have any good information on> this diet. Supposedly in 42 days all the cancer will be gone> without the sugar, carbs and especially protein.>> Thank you for any help or information!>> Baugh>>

[Guest guest]

Well that is kind of what I thought too. However, in cases of overly

active immunological dis-eases that don't need stimualting, I was

wondering if there might be some adaptogenic herb that does not

stimulate the immune system.

Peace, love and light,

Don Quai

" Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal

and wakes in man. "

Janet Seidlitz wrote:

> I thought adaptogenic herbs would all stimulate the immune system

> because they are adaptive, and most problems in the body go through

> the immune system at some point in the cycle. Could be over thinking

> it though hehe.

>

> Janet

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> *From:* Don Quai <mailto:mysticalherbalist@...>

> *To:* health

> <mailto:health >

> *Sent:* Monday, May 17, 2004 12:18 PM

> *Subject:* Re: Cancer spread to the spine,

> hip bone and sternum

>

> Anyone know if Astragalus is stimulating to the immune system? Anyone

> know of any adaptogenic herbs that aren't stimulating to the immune

> system? Just curious.

>

> Peace, love and light,

>

> Don Quai

>

> " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams

> in the animal and wakes in man. "

>

>

>

> Janet Seidlitz wrote:

>

> > By the BMT sounds like you are doing good. Keep up on the Essiac

> for

> > sure. Juicing fresh organic fruits and veggies is excellent.

> Look into

> > super green foods as well like wheat grass, barley grass,

> chlorella,

> > spirulina and purple dulse. Astragulus is an adaptogen, which

> means it

> > will adapt to help where ever needed in her body and boost her

> immune

> > system. Keep us posted on how she is doing.

> >

> > Janet

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > *From:* oldglory@... <mailto:oldglory@...>

> > *To:* health

> > <mailto:health >

> > *Sent:* Friday, May 14, 2004 5:28 PM

> > *Subject:* Cancer spread to the

> spine, hip

> > bone and sternum

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > Eight years ago my Mother had a lumpectomy for breast

> cancer. The

> > doctor said he got it all.

> >

> > Five years later her doctor retired and referred her to another

> > cancer doctor for periodic check ups. The new doctor asked how

> > long it had been since her operation and when told five

> years, he

> > said to not come to see him because she was cured.

> >

> > Three years later Mother was having great pain and

> difficulty with

> > her hip. One doctor said an inflamed bursa and it didn't

> respond

> > to treatment. The next doctor said arthritis and it didn't

> > respond to treatment. It was nearly impossible for her to

> walk by

> > this time. I insisted on an X-ray which showed her hip bone

> eaten

> > up 90% or more and in grave danger of breaking any moment. She

> > had emergency surgery to drive a rod down the thigh bone and

> a pin

> > to hold it all together. This stopped most of the awful

> pain and

> > she healed very well.

> >

> > Naturally when we went for her first appointment after the

> surgery

> > (she dismissed chemo and radiation), I asked the doctor about

> > using a heating pad for I'd read viruses were sensitive to heat.

> > He hesitated a long moment and then said, Sure. After

> that, any

> > question we asked was met with, Sure. Later I found out the

> > reason for him saying anything was OK to try is, there is no

> cure

> > for cancer in the bones, or such a small percentage that it is

> > nearly 100% fatal.

> >

> > We've been going to Abilene once a month for some time now and

> > having blood marker tests. When Mother had her operation around

> > Feb. 1st, her blood marker test was at 83 and last month it was

> > at 47. I understand anything over 35 indicates cancer so

> when we

> > went to her doctor's place 9 days ago, they drew blood. Five

> > phone calls later I accidentally connected with the head

> nurse who

> > had not returned any of my phone calls and messages, asking for

> > information. She said they didn't do the blood marker test the

> > last time, just a kidney test. Long story short, I was pretty

> > peeved and downright irritable. We will go to another doctor

> > tomorrow to have her blood drawn. We have to know if what

> we are

> > doing is in the right direction and without the blood marker

> test,

> > we have no clue.

> >

> > My question is, does anyone know anything that can be done for

> > this kind of cancer that we aren't doing? We are doing ESSIAC,

> > Platinum and Selenium colloidal water, Artemisinin, cottage

> cheese

> > and flaxseed oil and far infrared pad. I'm forgetting a few

> > things but have researched quite a bit.

> >

> > We are planning on trying the Breuss vegetable juice diet if we

> > can get all the vegetables (beets, celeraic, black radishes and

> > potatoes and carrots. Does anyone have any good information on

> > this diet. Supposedly in 42 days all the cancer will be gone

> > without the sugar, carbs and especially protein.

> >

> > Thank you for any help or information!

> >

> > Baugh

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Email Account with ."oldglory@..." <oldglory@...> wrote:

Hi Suzanne,I got to where it said, No matching account found, when I asked for my ID. Bummer!Baugh********************

health/files/Let's go one step further and see... Suzi"oldglory@..." <oldglory@...> wrote:

Hi Suzanne,I got there but couldn't access any archives. still thinks I'm an alien.

[Guest guest]

Hi Persian,

I wrote to my Mother's (BTW, I know it isn't 'proper' to capitalize the word

Mother but I decided she deserved it if anyone did), oncologist and received

this reply to my question, Is bone cancer fatal if not in a major organ?

Reply: " JEAN, YOUR MOTHER HAS BREAST CANCER THAT HAS GONE TO THE BONE. THERE

IS A DIFFERENCE. "

Thank you,

Baugh

********************

>

> On Sat, May 15, 2004 at 06:17:15 -0500, oldglory@... wrote:

>>

>> The hip and sternum wouldn't concern me so much as the spine, which carries

>> all your body's messages. If the hip was in grave danger of breaking from

>> being eaten up, what happens when cancer eats your spine in two? Mom said

>> it is dead feeling in those areas when using a heating pad.

>

> I am sorry I dont know about this, because it didn't happen to the people

> I have known with the bone mets. One ended up with a pin in the hip and one

> with

> a pin in a leg, both were still alive years after. I met them on a newsgroup

> when I was looking for help for another friend of mine with breast cancer.

> Another one I knew personally had mets all over the bones but they

> seemed to stabalise about 30 years ago and she was 65 last time I saw her in

> Australia.

>

> regards

> Persian

>

>

> ------------------------