Guest guest Posted January 29, 2001 Report Share Posted January 29, 2001 > a This came from another list. I think that it is interesting. > > > For years, it was thought that folks > with RA had an overactive immune system, and that is why they were treated > with drugs to suppress the immune system. However, a recent study by the > Mayo Clinic showed that folks with RA have prematurely aged immune systems - > their immune systems are exhausted. The findings were published in the > Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. > The study showed that the T-cells - the immune cells that are > programmed to recognize and attack invaders such as bacteria and viruses - > were worn out. They were not making new T-cells. The lead researcher was > Cornelia Weyand, a rheumatologist at the Mayo Clinic, who said that more > research needed to be done, but that there was a phase when the immune > system was very active and reached a state of exhaustion. She also > indicated that the current arthritis drugs cannot go to the root of the > problem. > I think that most people think that the medical > community/researchers/drug companies know more than they really do. If this > research is confirmed, it could show why the drugs that some people start > on, eventually stop being effective - if they start the drugs when their > system is over active, the drugs make them feel better because the drugs are > designed to treat an over active immune system. Once their immune system is > exhausted, the drugs don't make them feel better anymore. > If any of you have the opportunity, why not ask your doctor if they > are aware of this study, and what they think about it. > Knowledge is power! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2001 Report Share Posted January 29, 2001 Delaine, Could I get more info on this? Who posted this info? Is there a way for us to get a hold of the info from the Study? Thanks so much for posting this! ~Rainy Sue > > For years, it was thought that folks > > with RA had an overactive immune system, and that is why they were treated > > with drugs to suppress the immune system. However, a recent study by the > > Mayo Clinic showed that folks with RA have prematurely aged immune > systems - > > their immune systems are exhausted. The findings were published in the > > Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. > > The study showed that the T-cells - the immune cells that are > > programmed to recognize and attack invaders such as bacteria and viruses - > > were worn out. They were not making new T-cells. The lead researcher was > > Cornelia Weyand, a rheumatologist at the Mayo Clinic, who said that more > > research needed to be done, but that there was a phase when the immune > > system was very active and reached a state of exhaustion. She also > > indicated that the current arthritis drugs cannot go to the root of the > > problem. > > I think that most people think that the medical > > community/researchers/drug companies know more than they really do. If > this > > research is confirmed, it could show why the drugs that some people start > > on, eventually stop being effective - if they start the drugs when their > > system is over active, the drugs make them feel better because the drugs > are > > designed to treat an over active immune system. Once their immune system > is > > exhausted, the drugs don't make them feel better anymore. > > If any of you have the opportunity, why not ask your doctor if they > > are aware of this study, and what they think about it. > > Knowledge is power! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2001 Report Share Posted January 29, 2001 Oh Thank you, , This is great! There is even a number I can call to get the study results! This is exactly what I needed. Thank You!!! ~Rainy Sue > Rainy, > > Dr. Cornelia Weyand is a rheumatologist and researcher at Mayo Clinic in > Rochester, MN. Here is the summary of what she found in her study: > > http://www.mayo.edu/comm/mcr/news/news_1211.html > > a posted this information a few months ago. Enjoy! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2001 Report Share Posted January 30, 2001 Rainy, Dr. Cornelia Weyand is a rheumatologist and researcher at Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN. Here is the summary of what she found in her study: http://www.mayo.edu/comm/mcr/news/news_1211.html a posted this information a few months ago. Enjoy! ----- Original Message ----- From: <Rysu19@...> < > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Immune System > Delaine, > > Could I get more info on this? Who posted this info? Is there a way for us to > get a hold of the info from the Study? Thanks so much for posting this! > > ~Rainy Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2001 Report Share Posted January 30, 2001 Delaine, We had a lot of discussion about this article when it was first published. I can't wait to see more studies done. It sure does give more weight to the infectious cause of arthritis. Our immune systems are fighting the infection constantly and just give out. I don't think it will be long before we get answers. a ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim & Delaine Lowry <keywest@...> onelist < > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 11:26 PM Subject: [ ] Re: Immune System > > > > > a > > This came from another list. I think that it is interesting. > > > > > > > For years, it was thought that folks > > with RA had an overactive immune system, and that is why they were treated > > with drugs to suppress the immune system. However, a recent study by the > > Mayo Clinic showed that folks with RA have prematurely aged immune systems - > > their immune systems are exhausted. The findings were published in the > > Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. > > The study showed that the T-cells - the immune cells that are > > programmed to recognize and attack invaders such as bacteria and viruses - > > were worn out. They were not making new T-cells. The lead researcher was > > Cornelia Weyand, a rheumatologist at the Mayo Clinic, who said that more > > research needed to be done, but that there was a phase when the immune > > system was very active and reached a state of exhaustion. She also > > indicated that the current arthritis drugs cannot go to the root of the > > problem. > > I think that most people think that the medical > > community/researchers/drug companies know more than they really do. If this > > research is confirmed, it could show why the drugs that some people start > > on, eventually stop being effective - if they start the drugs when their > > system is over active, the drugs make them feel better because the drugs are > > designed to treat an over active immune system. Once their immune system is > > exhausted, the drugs don't make them feel better anymore. > > If any of you have the opportunity, why not ask your doctor if they > > are aware of this study, and what they think about it. > > Knowledge is power! > > > > > > Chat room: chat/ > Web pages for our group: http://rheumatoid.arthritis.freehosting.net/ > http://www.rasupport.webprovider.com/ > Change subscription options: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 : Hi. I get very sick easily too--esp. when I fly. I have Hashimotos. My doc said there is a connection. Do you have Hashimotos too? Take care, LM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 : Hi. After I was implanted/explanted, I got about 12 bad colds that year. It was one, right after the other. No wonder I had TE. I don't think it was just the anemia and anesthesia alone.... LM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2002 Report Share Posted September 12, 2002 I have low thyroid but I am taking the armour thyroid, I am wondering if they need to adjust my dose as it is a low dose. One thing I have noticed since moving to Idaho is that everyone here gets sick more, more sore throats and more respiratory stuff. I am wondering if it is something to do with the dry air, or the climate here or what! I worked in the ICU in California and didn't seem to get as many sore throats although since my career in hospitals I have always gotten at least 2 bad colds a year, here though it seems to be more like 4 a year. Between that and my foot injury it feels like I have been ill for along time, but one is an injury and one is an illness however, the foot thing could still somehow be connected to implants, it is just all speculation and I figure that it doesn't matter so much what caused it if it was the implants since they are gone now ya know. ----- Original Message ----- From: perlesetlacet@... Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 5:40 PM Subject: Re: Immune system :Hi. I get very sick easily too--esp. when I fly. I have Hashimotos. My doc said there is a connection. Do you have Hashimotos too?Take care,LM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2002 Report Share Posted September 12, 2002 Yeah I have heard other girls say to me that even though they like the implants and have no health problems that they get more colds afterwards. Who knows anymore! ----- Original Message ----- From: perlesetlacet@... Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 6:14 PM Subject: Re: Immune system :Hi. After I was implanted/explanted, I got about 12 bad colds that year. It was one, right after the other. No wonder I had TE. I don't think it was just the anemia and anesthesia alone....LM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2003 Report Share Posted May 21, 2003 The theory seems to make sense - to miss a few days. However, what you've questioned below also makes sense. Last week, I called Dr. Bihari's office to inquire and they do not support missing days but I didn't get an explanation since I talked to the assistant and not the doctor himself. -----Original Message-----From: fthinman@... [mailto:fthinman@...]Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 10:18 AMlow dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] immune system HiLDN helps the immune system. Could you please tell me, where the immunesystem is, in the body ? The Dr. said; "It's just there". I had a laps of 2 months while on Avonex, which led my body to getmixed up. Instead of helping Avonex fight MS,it fought the Medication,and left the MS go wild, weakening me. Now I have to use a sit downwalker totally. I believe, having a laps in taking the LDN " isn't" a good idea. Ibelieve the body, could also forget within a few days, not having theLDN to remind it , of its goal. Who knows,,, I don't know where the Immune system is, so does any onehave the same logic as me. Good Luck to us all !Thelma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 Hi Suzi, Very interesting! I wonder if my Mother's thymus gland is endangered because of the cancer of her sternum/breastbone? What device is recommended to stimulate the thymus gland? A Godzilla? A magnetic pulsar? ( " Primary Organs: thymus gland (located beneath the breast bone and functioning at its peak during adolescence) and the bone marrow (producing specialized lymphocytes—T-cells and B-cells and dispatching them through the lymph vessels to the secondary organs. The thymus gland is the central organ in the development of immune power. Within its cortex, the bone marrow lymphocytes mature into T-cells helped by thymosin, a hormone secreted by the thymus gland. The main job of bone marrow is to produce blood cells, both red and white (leukocytes and lymphocytes). It is the soft tissue located in the cavities of the bones. It is the source of stem cells which differentiate (change into) leukocytes and lymphocytes. To sum up things so far: the bone marrow creates the stem cells which become the cells of the immune system. From the bone marrow lymphocytes are sent to the thymus gland to mature and are then stored in the secondary organs of the lymph system and in the blood stream. The bone marrow also sends leukocytes into the blood stream on sentry duty. Everything stands in a " combat ready " state. " ) Thank you, Baugh **************************** Here is an interesting article on the immune system..(some interesting reading) http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/immune/immune1.htm d'arco is I believe. Suzi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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