Re: how much weight is it possible to ever gain back?

October 28, 2002

In a message dated 10/28/02 7:52:19 AM Eastern Standard Time,

jwmson1@... writes:

> I can only answer this as an opinion - personally my opinion.

>

> Let me tell you quite emphatically that I believe I COULD AND WOULD gain

> the weight back if I went back to my old eating habits! I know that if

> my family and I are out of town for a week, eating out a lot, snacking,

> etc. I will come home having gained " several " pounds as a rule. Now,

> when I get back home I get back to my " normal " eating habits and that

> pretty much goes away. That said - my " normal " now is so much different

> than my " normal " before. I try and eat much more healthy things, my

> portions are obviously smaller than before. However - I know that at

> times (and if I really want to in periods of stress, etc.) I can and do

> consume larger amounts of food (there are ways around everything

> including a small stomach) and it is something I personally have to be

> " every vigilant " as my Weight Watchers leaders says about what I do with

> my weight.

>

> This may not be true for everyone but it is what I believe for me

> personally....

>

> I'm not sure there is a hard and fast answer to your question......and I

> would bet that if there is anyone out there that has gained back most of

> all of their weight in the last 5 years we won't be hearing from them

> for lots of reasons.....( " shame " , anger, etc...)

>

> in GA

>

I agree with !! If you want to gain it back and you try hard enough

(eating all the wrong things and as much as you want) my bet if that you sure

can!

October 28, 2002

I can only answer this as an opinion - personally my opinion.

Let me tell you quite emphatically that I believe I COULD AND WOULD gain

the weight back if I went back to my old eating habits! I know that if

my family and I are out of town for a week, eating out a lot, snacking,

etc. I will come home having gained " several " pounds as a rule. Now,

when I get back home I get back to my " normal " eating habits and that

pretty much goes away. That said - my " normal " now is so much different

than my " normal " before. I try and eat much more healthy things, my

portions are obviously smaller than before. However - I know that at

times (and if I really want to in periods of stress, etc.) I can and do

consume larger amounts of food (there are ways around everything

including a small stomach) and it is something I personally have to be

" every vigilant " as my Weight Watchers leaders says about what I do with

my weight.

This may not be true for everyone but it is what I believe for me

personally....

I'm not sure there is a hard and fast answer to your question......and I

would bet that if there is anyone out there that has gained back most of

all of their weight in the last 5 years we won't be hearing from them

for lots of reasons.....( " shame " , anger, etc...)

in GA

> how much weight is it possible to ever

> gain back?

>

> although it has not happened to me and I'm almost 2 1/2 years post

> op, I still wonder if it is ever possible for us to gain back too

> much weight. I wonder this because my job is typing medical reports

> and there have been numerous reports of people having gastric

> bypasses and tummy tucks in the past and now they are up to 300

> pounds again and having all of the health problems....could this be

> just a different type of gastric bypass surgery....?....

>

> thanks,

> Dee

>

October 28, 2002

And sometimes even if you don't " want " to gain it back....... always be

aware is my new motto!!!

> Re: how much weight is it possible to

> ever gain back?

>

> In a message dated 10/28/02 7:52:19 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> jwmson1@... writes:

>

> > I can only answer this as an opinion - personally my opinion.

> >

> > Let me tell you quite emphatically that I believe I COULD AND WOULD

> > gain the weight back if I went back to my old eating

> habits! I know

> > that if my family and I are out of town for a week, eating

> out a lot,

> > snacking, etc. I will come home having gained " several " pounds as a

> > rule. Now, when I get back home I get back to my " normal " eating

> > habits and that pretty much goes away. That said - my

> " normal " now is

> > so much different than my " normal " before. I try and eat much more

> > healthy things, my portions are obviously smaller than before.

> > However - I know that at times (and if I really want to in

> periods of

> > stress, etc.) I can and do consume larger amounts of food

> (there are

> > ways around everything including a small stomach) and it is

> something

> > I personally have to be " every vigilant " as my Weight

> Watchers leaders

> > says about what I do with my weight.

> >

> > This may not be true for everyone but it is what I believe for me

> > personally....

> >

> > I'm not sure there is a hard and fast answer to your

> question......and

> > I would bet that if there is anyone out there that has gained back

> > most of all of their weight in the last 5 years we won't be hearing

> > from them for lots of reasons.....( " shame " , anger, etc...)

> >

> > in GA

> >

>

> I agree with !! If you want to gain it back and you try

> hard enough

> (eating all the wrong things and as much as you want) my bet

> if that you sure

> can!

>

October 28, 2002

Great question!

Unfortunately, there are a *few* medical reasons one could regain...

unrecognized staple line disruption (Thank goodness we're

transected!! *smile*), enlarged exit stoma, enlarged bowel near the

stoma (more surface area... more villi... more absorption), among

others.

But the main reason for weight regain is not modifying one's old bad

habits and copeing mechanisims. This is why counceling is so

essential for most of us. Without it, I'd have gone back to stress

binging and finding all kinds of situations that were more

easy/convienient to eat my way through. I've also been working a lot

of body image and self esteem issues. My body may have gotten

smaller, but my brain is still M.O. ;-)

That's just my take on it. I believe that this is just a

confirmation that *all* WLS procedures are merely *tools*, not a cure.

My best!

Jenn in Portland, OR

11-1-00

4 days away from my 2 year MGB anniversary.

" batchawana2001 " <vintagemt@g...> wrote:

> although it has not happened to me and I'm almost 2 1/2 years post

> op, I still wonder if it is ever possible for us to gain back too

> much weight. I wonder this because my job is typing medical

reports

> and there have been numerous reports of people having gastric

> bypasses and tummy tucks in the past and now they are up to 300

> pounds again and having all of the health problems....could this be

> just a different type of gastric bypass surgery....?....

>

> thanks,

> Dee

October 28, 2002

Yes, You are definitely right....

When I had the MGB I kinda over did it the opposite way, not fats, no

sugars, no nothing, maybe about 2 pieces of shrimp per meal. I lost

too much weight. I'm now eating pretty normal and have gained about

12 pounds. At least I look alive now. I think that eating disorders

go both ways. I'm sure that your post will help many. I'm thankful

when my husband says I'm half the woman I used to be!

My prayers are with you concerning your cancer. I hope everything

works out for the best.

Dee

> Dee,

> is right. I have a co-worker who had the mgb in July 2000 so

she is a

> little over two years out. From day one after her surgery, she ate

just like

> she did before, even though granted that initially it was in little

smaller

> portions. Every time I went by her desk though, she was drinking

diet cola

> (even tho diet, the carbonation stretches the stomach) and eating

chips,

> popcorn, cake, candy, cookies, home-made breads, fried chicken,

etc, etc,

> etc. She made no drastic changes and it almost came across as

though she were

> trying to see just how much she could get away with.

>

> She lost only 70 pounds total and by last spring she had gained 15

back. She

> tells me that she keeps gaining but doesn't say how much now. I

know she

> feels like a failure and although she was self-pay, she is

considering having

> an RNY now, again out-of-pocket. (She took out a 30 year mortgage

against her

> home in order to have this surgery.)

>

> I am convinced that gastric bypass " is a tool " by which we can lose

weight

> but that we must take advantage of the smaller tummy and try to

learn a new

> mindset to conquer the forces that caused us to overeat and get

that third

> helping even when we weren't hungry and it really didn't taste that

good. If

> we look at our mgb as a " get out of jail free " card but keep our

old eating

> habits, then it is impossible to be truly successful.

>

> In contrast, seeing her " self-destruct " made me realize the mgb is

not a

> 'cure-all'. It scared me to see her slow weight-loss and I figured

it had to

> be only a matter of time until she started gaining again. With that

thought

> constantly plaguing me, I was determined to eat healthy, exercise,

and be

> cautious. I joined a health club and exercised faithfully, pushing

myself to

> exhaustion. And when I experienced that head hunger, which I did

all the time

> initially following my surgery, I would nibble on something

healthy. My one

> downfallI that I could not conquer is that I do drink decaf tea but

I'll sip

> on my one glass all day long.

>

> I had my surgery six months after she did so I will be two years

out in

> December and started out at 272. This year I found out I had breast

cancer,

> had a mastectomy, and went thru chemo, which I know also

contributed to my

> weight-loss, but I now weigh 137. I share this not to give myself

an 'atta

> girl' but to share the reality that how we approach " eating " after

the mgb,

> truly does determine the outcome.

>

> If this post helps even one person to rethink their eating and

exercise

> habits, then it was well worth sharing.

>

> Best of luck to everyone out there!

> Bankie

>

October 28, 2002

What an inspiration you are Bankie my friend!!!! You deserve that ATTA

GIRL that you don't want to give yourself. You have done amazingly well

and going to have beaten cancer to boot! Keep up the great work!

> how much weight is it possible to ever

> gain back?

>

> Dee,

> is right. I have a co-worker who had the mgb in July

> 2000 so she is a

> little over two years out. From day one after her surgery,

> she ate just like

> she did before, even though granted that initially it was in

> little smaller

> portions. Every time I went by her desk though, she was

> drinking diet cola

> (even tho diet, the carbonation stretches the stomach) and

> eating chips,

> popcorn, cake, candy, cookies, home-made breads, fried

> chicken, etc, etc,

> etc. She made no drastic changes and it almost came across as

> though she were

> trying to see just how much she could get away with.

>

> She lost only 70 pounds total and by last spring she had

> gained 15 back. She

> tells me that she keeps gaining but doesn't say how much now.

> I know she

> feels like a failure and although she was self-pay, she is

> considering having

> an RNY now, again out-of-pocket. (She took out a 30 year

> mortgage against her

> home in order to have this surgery.)

>

> I am convinced that gastric bypass " is a tool " by which we

> can lose weight

> but that we must take advantage of the smaller tummy and try

> to learn a new

> mindset to conquer the forces that caused us to overeat and

> get that third

> helping even when we weren't hungry and it really didn't

> taste that good. If

> we look at our mgb as a " get out of jail free " card but keep

> our old eating

> habits, then it is impossible to be truly successful.

>

> In contrast, seeing her " self-destruct " made me realize the

> mgb is not a

> 'cure-all'. It scared me to see her slow weight-loss and I

> figured it had to

> be only a matter of time until she started gaining again.

> With that thought

> constantly plaguing me, I was determined to eat healthy,

> exercise, and be

> cautious. I joined a health club and exercised faithfully,

> pushing myself to

> exhaustion. And when I experienced that head hunger, which I

> did all the time

> initially following my surgery, I would nibble on something

> healthy. My one

> downfallI that I could not conquer is that I do drink decaf

> tea but I'll sip

> on my one glass all day long.

>

> I had my surgery six months after she did so I will be two

> years out in

> December and started out at 272. This year I found out I had

> breast cancer,

> had a mastectomy, and went thru chemo, which I know also

> contributed to my

> weight-loss, but I now weigh 137. I share this not to give

> myself an 'atta

> girl' but to share the reality that how we approach " eating "

> after the mgb,

> truly does determine the outcome.

>

> If this post helps even one person to rethink their eating

> and exercise

> habits, then it was well worth sharing.

>

> Best of luck to everyone out there!

> Bankie

>

October 28, 2002

I have to tell ya... the doc was real worried about me so he told me that

junk food was good and I could eat it and I started eating like I did before

I went up to 126 lbs! For being 5'2 " that's alot to me, so I cut back

considerably and now I'm back to 119 lbs. It is easier to lose what you

gain, but gaining is definitely an issue.

aW

-- how much weight is it possible to ever gain back?

although it has not happened to me and I'm almost 2 1/2 years post

op, I still wonder if it is ever possible for us to gain back too

much weight. I wonder this because my job is typing medical reports

and there have been numerous reports of people having gastric

bypasses and tummy tucks in the past and now they are up to 300

pounds again and having all of the health problems....could this be

just a different type of gastric bypass surgery....?....

thanks,

Dee

October 28, 2002

Well said Bankie! How are you sweetheart! It was so good to read your

post. Bless you!

Betty

how much weight is it possible to ever gain back?

> Dee,

> is right. I have a co-worker who had the mgb in July 2000 so she is

a

> little over two years out. From day one after her surgery, she ate just

like

> she did before, even though granted that initially it was in little

smaller

> portions. Every time I went by her desk though, she was drinking diet cola

> (even tho diet, the carbonation stretches the stomach) and eating chips,

> popcorn, cake, candy, cookies, home-made breads, fried chicken, etc, etc,

> etc. She made no drastic changes and it almost came across as though she

were

> trying to see just how much she could get away with.

>

> She lost only 70 pounds total and by last spring she had gained 15 back.

She

> tells me that she keeps gaining but doesn't say how much now. I know she

> feels like a failure and although she was self-pay, she is considering

having

> an RNY now, again out-of-pocket. (She took out a 30 year mortgage against

her

> home in order to have this surgery.)

>

> I am convinced that gastric bypass " is a tool " by which we can lose weight

> but that we must take advantage of the smaller tummy and try to learn a

new

> mindset to conquer the forces that caused us to overeat and get that third

> helping even when we weren't hungry and it really didn't taste that good.

If

> we look at our mgb as a " get out of jail free " card but keep our old

eating

> habits, then it is impossible to be truly successful.

>

> In contrast, seeing her " self-destruct " made me realize the mgb is not a

> 'cure-all'. It scared me to see her slow weight-loss and I figured it had

to

> be only a matter of time until she started gaining again. With that

thought

> constantly plaguing me, I was determined to eat healthy, exercise, and be

> cautious. I joined a health club and exercised faithfully, pushing myself

to

> exhaustion. And when I experienced that head hunger, which I did all the

time

> initially following my surgery, I would nibble on something healthy. My

one

> downfallI that I could not conquer is that I do drink decaf tea but I'll

sip

> on my one glass all day long.

>

> I had my surgery six months after she did so I will be two years out in

> December and started out at 272. This year I found out I had breast

cancer,

> had a mastectomy, and went thru chemo, which I know also contributed to my

> weight-loss, but I now weigh 137. I share this not to give myself an 'atta

> girl' but to share the reality that how we approach " eating " after the

mgb,

> truly does determine the outcome.

>

> If this post helps even one person to rethink their eating and exercise

> habits, then it was well worth sharing.

>

> Best of luck to everyone out there!

> Bankie

>

October 31, 2002

yes this is something we all need to check into and take care of with

knowledge before hand --another words prevention is best policy --so anyone

that is over the 2 years lets keep track and help each and all keep it

off -support

how much weight is it possible to ever gain back?

> although it has not happened to me and I'm almost 2 1/2 years post

> op, I still wonder if it is ever possible for us to gain back too

> much weight. I wonder this because my job is typing medical reports

> and there have been numerous reports of people having gastric

> bypasses and tummy tucks in the past and now they are up to 300

> pounds again and having all of the health problems....could this be

> just a different type of gastric bypass surgery....?....

>

> thanks,

> Dee