Re: seeking guests for TV show

[Guest guest]

I'm so glad to see these posts coming through on a regular basis now.

When can I expect a job application for the next Nacho Man? The

request for that Very Special Episode of " The Moment of Truth: When

Midgets Lie " ?

This list gets their collective panties in a wad over a 21 year old

girl who is attempting to ask questions for a class, yet this doesn't

bother anyone? may not have had the finesse that was so desired

by some members of the list, but she at least gave us her name and

other information! Which " Major Cable Television Network " ? What is

the name of this " award-winning documentary series " ? Who is this

person asking? Why is this person (gender unknown) seeking people

with dwarfism? And if this unnamed person is trying to tell a Kleenex-

moment story, why ask for a photo to be included with the first email

that includes " details about yourself " ? Are only the pretty dwarf

mommies worthy of their moment in reality heaven?

This is allowed to get through with nary a word but posts where a

member is attempting to give away shoes gets a " moderators note? " Are

clothes swaps so dodgy they need to be monitored closely?

Rose

>

> We are a Major Cable Television Network searching for short persons

who are mothers to

> share their stories for our award-winning documentary series.

>

> Every woman has a story and this program strives to educate our

audiences about the day-

> to-day struggles and triumphs of today's women. We want to know

what it's like to walk a

> mile in your shoes. This is your chance to tell your own story in

your own words.

>

> If you are or know a mom and would like to share your experiences,

please contact us at

> kaostv1@... with details about yourself. Please include a photo and

contact

> information.

>

> Thank you.

>

[Guest guest]

Rose,

Does this mean if I give away my old clothes and shoes on the Dwarf

Adults list you'll take me of Moderation?

Yipeeee!

TS

On Sep 5, 2008, at 5:09 AM, Rose wrote:

> This is allowed to get through with nary a word but posts where a

> member is attempting to give away shoes gets a " moderators note? " Are

> clothes swaps so dodgy they need to be monitored closely?

>

> Rose

[Guest guest]

once again, it's a given that if the mods approve a note [despite a poll

that so far has 80% willing to have shows approved], they're wrong. if we

didn't approve it and someone posted it via 3rd party posting, we'd be

wrong. if someone heard about it in the media, and learned that it had asked

to be posted but we had rejected it, we'd be wrong.

we sincerely apologise for all the things we've done wrong in the past,

currently and in the future. we are attempting to give some freedom of

choice here by list members, but that's probably wrong too.

Whims

***********

Well, maybe there is a God above,

But all that I've ever learned from love

Was how to shoot somebody who outdrew you.

***********

_____

From: dwarfism [mailto:dwarfism ] On Behalf

Of Rose

Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 5:10 AM

dwarfism

Subject: Re: seeking guests for TV show

I'm so glad to see these posts coming through on a regular basis now.

When can I expect a job application for the next Nacho Man? The

request for that Very Special Episode of " The Moment of Truth: When

Midgets Lie " ?

This list gets their collective panties in a wad over a 21 year old

girl who is attempting to ask questions for a class, yet this doesn't

bother anyone? may not have had the finesse that was so desired

by some members of the list, but she at least gave us her name and

other information! Which " Major Cable Television Network " ? What is

the name of this " award-winning documentary series " ? Who is this

person asking? Why is this person (gender unknown) seeking people

with dwarfism? And if this unnamed person is trying to tell a Kleenex-

moment story, why ask for a photo to be included with the first email

that includes " details about yourself " ? Are only the pretty dwarf

mommies worthy of their moment in reality heaven?

This is allowed to get through with nary a word but posts where a

member is attempting to give away shoes gets a " moderators note? " Are

clothes swaps so dodgy they need to be monitored closely?

Rose

>

> We are a Major Cable Television Network searching for short persons

who are mothers to

> share their stories for our award-winning documentary series.

>

> Every woman has a story and this program strives to educate our

audiences about the day-

> to-day struggles and triumphs of today's women. We want to know

what it's like to walk a

> mile in your shoes. This is your chance to tell your own story in

your own words.

>

> If you are or know a mom and would like to share your experiences,

please contact us at

> kaostv1@... with details about yourself. Please include a photo and

contact

> information.

>

> Thank you.

>

[Guest guest]

Whims

I enjoy the freedom on this list

With freedom comes disputes but that's what

Makes the list interesting

On Sep 5, 2008, at 11:32 AM, Whims Ivey <justwhims@...> wrote:

> once again, it's a given that if the mods approve a note [despite a

> poll

> that so far has 80% willing to have shows approved], they're wrong.

> if we

> didn't approve it and someone posted it via 3rd party posting, we'd

> be

> wrong. if someone heard about it in the media, and learned that it

> had asked

> to be posted but we had rejected it, we'd be wrong.

> we sincerely apologise for all the things we've done wrong in the

> past,

> currently and in the future. we are attempting to give some freedom of

> choice here by list members, but that's probably wrong too.

>

> Whims

>

> ***********

> Well, maybe there is a God above,

> But all that I've ever learned from love

> Was how to shoot somebody who outdrew you.

> ***********

>

>

> _____

>

> From: dwarfism [mailto:dwarfism ] On

> Behalf

> Of Rose

> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 5:10 AM

> dwarfism

> Subject: Re: seeking guests for TV show

>

> I'm so glad to see these posts coming through on a regular basis now.

> When can I expect a job application for the next Nacho Man? The

> request for that Very Special Episode of " The Moment of Truth: When

> Midgets Lie " ?

>

> This list gets their collective panties in a wad over a 21 year old

> girl who is attempting to ask questions for a class, yet this doesn't

> bother anyone? may not have had the finesse that was so desired

> by some members of the list, but she at least gave us her name and

> other information! Which " Major Cable Television Network " ? What is

> the name of this " award-winning documentary series " ? Who is this

> person asking? Why is this person (gender unknown) seeking people

> with dwarfism? And if this unnamed person is trying to tell a Kleenex-

> moment story, why ask for a photo to be included with the first email

> that includes " details about yourself " ? Are only the pretty dwarf

> mommies worthy of their moment in reality heaven?

>

> This is allowed to get through with nary a word but posts where a

> member is attempting to give away shoes gets a " moderators note? " Are

> clothes swaps so dodgy they need to be monitored closely?

>

> Rose

>

>

> >

> > We are a Major Cable Television Network searching for short persons

> who are mothers to

> > share their stories for our award-winning documentary series.

> >

> > Every woman has a story and this program strives to educate our

> audiences about the day-

> > to-day struggles and triumphs of today's women. We want to know

> what it's like to walk a

> > mile in your shoes. This is your chance to tell your own story in

> your own words.

> >

> > If you are or know a mom and would like to share your experiences,

> please contact us at

> > kaostv1@... with details about yourself. Please include a photo and

> contact

> > information.

> >

> > Thank you.

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Great post Rose, I completely agree!

 

-

From: Rose <RMBJustice@...>

Subject: Re: seeking guests for TV show

dwarfism

Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 4:09 AM

I'm so glad to see these posts coming through on a regular basis now.

When can I expect a job application for the next Nacho Man? The

request for that Very Special Episode of " The Moment of Truth: When

Midgets Lie " ?

This list gets their collective panties in a wad over a 21 year old

girl who is attempting to ask questions for a class, yet this doesn't

bother anyone? may not have had the finesse that was so desired

by some members of the list, but she at least gave us her name and

other information! Which " Major Cable Television Network " ? What is

the name of this " award-winning documentary series " ? Who is this

person asking? Why is this person (gender unknown) seeking people

with dwarfism? And if this unnamed person is trying to tell a Kleenex-

moment story, why ask for a photo to be included with the first email

that includes " details about yourself " ? Are only the pretty dwarf

mommies worthy of their moment in reality heaven?

This is allowed to get through with nary a word but posts where a

member is attempting to give away shoes gets a " moderators note? " Are

clothes swaps so dodgy they need to be monitored closely?

Rose

>

> We are a Major Cable Television Network searching for short persons

who are mothers to

> share their stories for our award-winning documentary series.

>

> Every woman has a story and this program strives to educate our

audiences about the day-

> to-day struggles and triumphs of today's women. We want to know

what it's like to walk a

> mile in your shoes. This is your chance to tell your own story in

your own words.

>

> If you are or know a mom and would like to share your experiences,

please contact us at

> kaostv1@... with details about yourself. Please include a photo and

contact

> information.

>

> Thank you.

>

[Guest guest]

I would like to also add to what Whims says, that in a group as large

as this, there is always a very low response when polls take place. Like

at present...in a group with 2,987 members, thus far only 27-35 have

responded...which have been up since August 29th.

These polls being conducted at present, are asking about changes

you may or may not want to have regarding which types of messages

should be allowed. The majority of votes in each poll will determine the

changes to be made...or not to be made. It's up to each of you to

vote...and it all is anonymous. Not even we moderators know who votes.

So hopefully, more will take the time to vote between now and when the poll

closes this Friday...at which time we will ALL be notified of the results

concerning each item voted on. It is easy and painless! And I have even

included a link below for your convenience too. ; )

Thank you everyone!

Adelaide, Co-Moderator

Dwarfism Group

_dwarfism : Polls_ (dwarfism/polls)

In a message dated 9/8/08 12:18:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

justwhims@... writes:

actually, the polls are set up so that the results are sent to the list

members as well as the mods.

this set of polls will end on the 12th. i hope that more people cast a vote

since the end decision will be majority of votes rule.

Whims

**************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog,

plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.

(http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)

[Guest guest]

Okay, the choices that have been made in the past, were not " WRONG " ,

they may have been the right thing at the time. Things change and we

make different choices.

It's great to make changes and try new things to see what works and

what doesn't. You won't know unless you try, and why would that be

wrong?

I voted against having posts regarding advertising acting and show

requests because there is another list that is dessignated for that.

However, the majority voted for it, then I am willing to accept that.

It's great to get people's opinions. I would encourage the moderators

to posts these polls at least once a year to see if there is a

fluxulation of requests and opinions.

Again, there isn't a wrong choice. Trial and error. Keep trying new

things and sometimes it's not the " right time " for an idea, but it

could work out later on.

Stop beating yourself up.Okay, the choices that have been made in the

past, were not " WRONG " , they may have been the right thing at the

time. Things change and we make different choices.

It's great to make changes and try new things to see what works and

what doesn't. You won't know unless you try, and why would that be

wrong?

I voted against having posts regarding advertising acting and show

requests because there is another list that is designated for that.

However, the majority voted for it, then I am willing to accept that.

It's great to get people's opinions. I would encourage the moderators

to posts these polls at least once a year to see if there is a

fluctuation of requests and opinions.

Again, there isn't a wrong choice. Trial and error. Keep trying new

things and sometimes it's not the " right time " for an idea, but it

could work out later on.

Stop beating yourself up.

~ a

> >

> > We are a Major Cable Television Network searching for short

persons

> who are mothers to

> > share their stories for our award-winning documentary series.

> >

> > Every woman has a story and this program strives to educate our

> audiences about the day-

> > to-day struggles and triumphs of today's women. We want to know

> what it's like to walk a

> > mile in your shoes. This is your chance to tell your own story in

> your own words.

> >

> > If you are or know a mom and would like to share your

experiences,

> please contact us at

> > kaostv1@ with details about yourself. Please include a photo and

> contact

> > information.

> >

> > Thank you.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I apologize for the double post with in my post...

The copy and paste feature wasn't working properly when I tried to

correct my spelling and over-write my orginal post with the " new "

post.

I guess I'm not smarter than the computer today....

Below in quotes is what I meant to send....with correct spelling.

~ a

" Okay, the choices that have been made in the past, were not " WRONG " ,

they may have been the right thing at the time. Things change and we

make different choices.

It's great to make changes and try new things to see what works and

what doesn't. You won't know unless you try, and why would that be

wrong?

I voted against having posts regarding advertising acting and show

requests because there is another list that is designated for that.

However, the majority voted for it, then I am willing to accept that.

It's great to get people's opinions. I would encourage the moderators

to posts these polls at least once a year to see if there is a

fluctuation of requests and opinions.

Again, there isn't a wrong choice. Trial and error. Keep trying new

things and sometimes it's not the " right time " for an idea, but it

could work out later on.

Stop beating yourself up. "

> > >

> > > We are a Major Cable Television Network searching for short

> persons

> > who are mothers to

> > > share their stories for our award-winning documentary series.

> > >

> > > Every woman has a story and this program strives to educate our

> > audiences about the day-

> > > to-day struggles and triumphs of today's women. We want to know

> > what it's like to walk a

> > > mile in your shoes. This is your chance to tell your own story

in

> > your own words.

> > >

> > > If you are or know a mom and would like to share your

> experiences,

> > please contact us at

> > > kaostv1@ with details about yourself. Please include a photo

and

> > contact

> > > information.

> > >

> > > Thank you.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Yea...whatever she said.

Lets keep doing these polls that the so called list members never see or results

that only the moderators can review.  Good idea! I'm for that.

CD

Re: seeking guests for TV show

Okay, the choices that have been made in the past, were not " WRONG " ,

they may have been the right thing at the time. Things change and we

make different choices.

It's great to make changes and try new things to see what works and

what doesn't. You won't know unless you try, and why would that be

wrong?

I voted against having posts regarding advertising acting and show

requests because there is another list that is dessignated for that.

However, the majority voted for it, then I am willing to accept that.

It's great to get people's opinions.. I would encourage the moderators

to posts these polls at least once a year to see if there is a

fluxulation of requests and opinions.

Again, there isn't a wrong choice. Trial and error. Keep trying new

things and sometimes it's not the " right time " for an idea, but it

could work out later on.

Stop beating yourself up.Okay, the choices that have been made in the

past, were not " WRONG " , they may have been the right thing at the

time. Things change and we make different choices.

It's great to make changes and try new things to see what works and

what doesn't.. You won't know unless you try, and why would that be

wrong?

I voted against having posts regarding advertising acting and show

requests because there is another list that is designated for that.

However, the majority voted for it, then I am willing to accept that.

It's great to get people's opinions. I would encourage the moderators

to posts these polls at least once a year to see if there is a

fluctuation of requests and opinions.

Again, there isn't a wrong choice. Trial and error. Keep trying new

things and sometimes it's not the " right time " for an idea, but it

could work out later on.

Stop beating yourself up.

~ a

> >

> > We are a Major Cable Television Network searching for short

persons

> who are mothers to

> > share their stories for our award-winning documentary series.

> >

> > Every woman has a story and this program strives to educate our

> audiences about the day-

> > to-day struggles and triumphs of today's women. We want to know

> what it's like to walk a

> > mile in your shoes. This is your chance to tell your own story in

> your own words.

> >

> > If you are or know a mom and would like to share your

experiences,

> please contact us at

> > kaostv1@ with details about yourself. Please include a photo and

> contact

> > information.

> >

> > Thank you.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

actually, the polls are set up so that the results are sent to the list

members as well as the mods.

this set of polls will end on the 12th. i hope that more people cast a vote

since the end decision will be majority of votes rule.

Whims

***********

_____

From: dwarfism [mailto:dwarfism ] On Behalf

Of Cody

Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 11:10 AM

dwarfism

Subject: Re: Re: seeking guests for TV show

Yea...whatever she said.

Lets keep doing these polls that the so called list members never see or

results that only the moderators can review. Good idea! I'm for that.

CD

Re: seeking guests for TV show

Okay, the choices that have been made in the past, were not " WRONG " ,

they may have been the right thing at the time. Things change and we

make different choices.

It's great to make changes and try new things to see what works and

what doesn't. You won't know unless you try, and why would that be

wrong?

I voted against having posts regarding advertising acting and show

requests because there is another list that is dessignated for that.

However, the majority voted for it, then I am willing to accept that.

It's great to get people's opinions.. I would encourage the moderators

to posts these polls at least once a year to see if there is a

fluxulation of requests and opinions.

Again, there isn't a wrong choice. Trial and error. Keep trying new

things and sometimes it's not the " right time " for an idea, but it

could work out later on.

Stop beating yourself up.Okay, the choices that have been made in the

past, were not " WRONG " , they may have been the right thing at the

time. Things change and we make different choices.

It's great to make changes and try new things to see what works and

what doesn't.. You won't know unless you try, and why would that be

wrong?

I voted against having posts regarding advertising acting and show

requests because there is another list that is designated for that.

However, the majority voted for it, then I am willing to accept that.

It's great to get people's opinions. I would encourage the moderators

to posts these polls at least once a year to see if there is a

fluctuation of requests and opinions.

Again, there isn't a wrong choice. Trial and error. Keep trying new

things and sometimes it's not the " right time " for an idea, but it

could work out later on.

Stop beating yourself up.

~ a

> >

> > We are a Major Cable Television Network searching for short

persons

> who are mothers to

> > share their stories for our award-winning documentary series.

> >

> > Every woman has a story and this program strives to educate our

> audiences about the day-

> > to-day struggles and triumphs of today's women. We want to know

> what it's like to walk a

> > mile in your shoes. This is your chance to tell your own story in

> your own words.

> >

> > If you are or know a mom and would like to share your

experiences,

> please contact us at

> > kaostv1@ with details about yourself. Please include a photo and

> contact

> > information.

> >

> > Thank you.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well...there you go.  You've answered my question.

My belief is moderators should only be here to control the language of the posts

and maybe topics that are too personal to one's beliefs.  I don't see an issue

for anyone to post about their business, or website, etc....as long that it's

little person related.  The thing I see that may pose a problem is that they

over extend that privilige by posting the same content every hour (there you go,

another moderator role). 

Moderators - time for you to let go.  Don't feel threatened that your job

description may be shortened by a few paragraphs.  It's ok.  All 50 of you need

a break.

 

Re: Re: seeking guests for TV show

I would like to also add to what Whims says, that in a group as large

as this, there is always a very low response when polls take place. Like

at present...in a group with 2,987 members, thus far only 27-35 have

responded... which have been up since August 29th.

These polls being conducted at present, are asking about changes

you may or may not want to have regarding which types of messages

should be allowed. The majority of votes in each poll will determine the

changes to be made...or not to be made. It's up to each of you to

vote...and it all is anonymous. Not even we moderators know who votes.

So hopefully, more will take the time to vote between now and when the poll

closes this Friday...at which time we will ALL be notified of the results

concerning each item voted on. It is easy and painless! And I have even

included a link below for your convenience too. ; )

Thank you everyone!

Adelaide, Co-Moderator

Dwarfism Group

_dwarfism : Polls_ (http://health. groups.. com/group/ dwarfism/ polls)

In a message dated 9/8/08 12:18:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

justwhimsbex (DOT) net writes:

actually, the polls are set up so that the results are sent to the list

members as well as the mods.

this set of polls will end on the 12th. i hope that more people cast a vote

since the end decision will be majority of votes rule.

Whims

************ **Psssst. ..Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog,

plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.

(http://www.stylelis t.com/trends? ncid=aolsty00050 000000014)

[Guest guest]

I have a poll question I like to suggest.

In 2000, there was an avg. of 556 messages per month.  In 2008, the avg. is an

amazing 170 messages per month.  What is a major cause for this 70% decline??

A.  Censorship

B.  Global Warming

C.  Technology

D.  Harry Potter

E.  The TV show " Lost "

F.  All of the above

After heavily thinking this over, I think its F. 

 

Re: Re: seeking guests for TV show

I would like to also add to what Whims says, that in a group as large

as this, there is always a very low response when polls take place. Like

at present...in a group with 2,987 members, thus far only 27-35 have

responded... which have been up since August 29th.

These polls being conducted at present, are asking about changes

you may or may not want to have regarding which types of messages

should be allowed. The majority of votes in each poll will determine the

changes to be made...or not to be made. It's up to each of you to

vote...and it all is anonymous. Not even we moderators know who votes.

So hopefully, more will take the time to vote between now and when the poll

closes this Friday...at which time we will ALL be notified of the results

concerning each item voted on. It is easy and painless! And I have even

included a link below for your convenience too. ; )

Thank you everyone!

Adelaide, Co-Moderator

Dwarfism Group

_dwarfism : Polls_ (http://health. groups.. com/group/ dwarfism/ polls)

In a message dated 9/8/08 12:18:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

justwhimsbex (DOT) net writes:

actually, the polls are set up so that the results are sent to the list

members as well as the mods.

this set of polls will end on the 12th. i hope that more people cast a vote

since the end decision will be majority of votes rule.

Whims

************ **Psssst. ..Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog,

plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.

(http://www.stylelis t.com/trends? ncid=aolsty00050 000000014)

[Guest guest]

craig, oddly enough, we as moderators do try to moderate language that

doesnt conform to the guidelines for our rating.

and for moderating topics that are too personal for one's beliefs? whose

beliefs would that be? mine? yours? john doe's? and who decides that they

are too personal?

we have tried to accomodate web sites and businesses. but do we allow one

type of business, owned and operated by an LP, but not allow another

business, also owned by an LP? isn't THAT censorship?

when a website is posted, we allow it so that the information gets out. when

it is repeated over and over again, we add it to the links on the Dwarfism

web site so that information can be accessed by list members. i'm sorry you

consider that not good enough for you.

all 50 of us [me and Adelaide] will be more than happy to loosen the reins

of our extreme censorship. if the occasional adult site, ads for " midget

wrestling " , and a plethora of research students come thru, then oh well!

the job description doesn't include putting up with insults and harassment

for trying to keep this a G rated group, without any bennnies, pay or

vacation.

get yourself another whipping boy. advertise on Google. the other 48 mods

are taking a break.

Whims

***********

_____

From: dwarfism [mailto:dwarfism ] On Behalf

Of Craig M. Hennon

Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 3:25 PM

dwarfism

Subject: Re: Re: seeking guests for TV show

Well...there you go. You've answered my question.

My belief is moderators should only be here to control the language of the

posts and maybe topics that are too personal to one's beliefs. I don't see

an issue for anyone to post about their business, or website, etc....as long

that it's little person related. The thing I see that may pose a problem is

that they over extend that privilige by posting the same content every hour

(there you go, another moderator role).

Moderators - time for you to let go. Don't feel threatened that your job

description may be shortened by a few paragraphs. It's ok. All 50 of you

need a break.

Re: Re: seeking guests for TV show

I would like to also add to what Whims says, that in a group as large

as this, there is always a very low response when polls take place. Like

at present...in a group with 2,987 members, thus far only 27-35 have

responded... which have been up since August 29th.

These polls being conducted at present, are asking about changes

you may or may not want to have regarding which types of messages

should be allowed. The majority of votes in each poll will determine the

changes to be made...or not to be made. It's up to each of you to

vote...and it all is anonymous. Not even we moderators know who votes.

So hopefully, more will take the time to vote between now and when the poll

closes this Friday...at which time we will ALL be notified of the results

concerning each item voted on. It is easy and painless! And I have even

included a link below for your convenience too. ; )

Thank you everyone!

Adelaide, Co-Moderator

Dwarfism Group

_dwarfism : Polls_ (http://health. groups.. com/group/ dwarfism/ polls)

In a message dated 9/8/08 12:18:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

justwhimsbex (DOT) net writes:

actually, the polls are set up so that the results are sent to the list

members as well as the mods.

this set of polls will end on the 12th. i hope that more people cast a vote

since the end decision will be majority of votes rule.

Whims

************ **Psssst. ..Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion

blog,

plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.

(http://www.stylelis t.com/trends? ncid=aolsty00050 000000014)

[Guest guest]

I have a theory about these lists and it goes like this:

Overall 10% of those who appear as members actually continue to read

it after their initial sign-up

Leaving us at 298

And of those, only 10% actively participate

Leaving us at 29

So, I'm not surprised at the turnouts we usually get. It's within my

theory's ballpark.

>

>

> I would like to also add to what Whims says, that in a group as

large as this, there is always a very low response when polls take

place. Like at present...in a group with 2,987 members, thus far only

27-35 have responded...which have been up since August 29th.

[Guest guest]

when a website is posted, we allow it so that the information gets out. when it

is repeated over and over again, we add it to the links on the Dwarfism web site

so that information can be accessed by list members. i'm sorry you consider that

not good enough for you.   - Whims - last time I checked my site isn't on the

dwarfism website.  The only site of mine that is posted is my personal site from

1999.  Most of those links are outdated, so if there's some other dwarfism

website that you're referring to....please let me know.

we have tried to accomodate web sites and businesses. but do we allow one type

of business, owned and operated by an LP, but not allow another business, also

owned by an LP? isn't THAT censorship?  When??  Was this before I became a

member of this list a few years back?? Well...you're right!  The listserve did

post personal websites of its members of the community back then and also

businesses.  I haven't seen anything like that since.  When I first developed my

site, I kept getting threats from the moderators saying that if I posted again,

I would be suspended.  I'll admit, a posting of mine was let through recently

but was it just a miss? or maybe you guys are trying to change.

get yourself another whipping boy. advertise on Google. the other 48 mods are

taking a break. - Well...I keep that job for my wife. I love the sarcasm!

Advertising a community lp website on google is like fishing in a lake without

bait. 

 

 

 

 

Re: Re: seeking guests for TV show

I would like to also add to what Whims says, that in a group as large

as this, there is always a very low response when polls take place. Like

at present...in a group with 2,987 members, thus far only 27-35 have

responded... which have been up since August 29th.

These polls being conducted at present, are asking about changes

you may or may not want to have regarding which types of messages

should be allowed. The majority of votes in each poll will determine the

changes to be made...or not to be made. It's up to each of you to

vote...and it all is anonymous. Not even we moderators know who votes.

So hopefully, more will take the time to vote between now and when the poll

closes this Friday...at which time we will ALL be notified of the results

concerning each item voted on. It is easy and painless! And I have even

included a link below for your convenience too. ; )

Thank you everyone!

Adelaide, Co-Moderator

Dwarfism Group

_dwarfism : Polls_ (http://health. groups.. com/group/ dwarfism/ polls)

In a message dated 9/8/08 12:18:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

justwhimsbex (DOT) net writes:

actually, the polls are set up so that the results are sent to the list

members as well as the mods.

this set of polls will end on the 12th. i hope that more people cast a vote

since the end decision will be majority of votes rule.

Whims

************ **Psssst. ..Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion

blog,

plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.

(http://www.stylelis t.com/trends? ncid=aolsty00050 000000014)

[Guest guest]

I forgot one. 

all 50 of us [me and Adelaide] will be more than happy to loosen the reins of

our extreme censorship. if the occasional adult site, ads for " midget

wrestling " , and a plethora of research students come thru, then oh well! the job

description doesn't include putting up with insults and harassment for trying to

keep this a G rated group, without any bennnies, pay or vacation.  - You are an

online listserve moderator....you don't bounce at a bar. You don't even take the

insults over the phone.  You get an insult, and all you have to do is click a

button to ban them or submit a response. 

 

Re: Re: seeking guests for TV show

I would like to also add to what Whims says, that in a group as large

as this, there is always a very low response when polls take place. Like

at present...in a group with 2,987 members, thus far only 27-35 have

responded... which have been up since August 29th.

These polls being conducted at present, are asking about changes

you may or may not want to have regarding which types of messages

should be allowed. The majority of votes in each poll will determine the

changes to be made...or not to be made. It's up to each of you to

vote...and it all is anonymous. Not even we moderators know who votes.

So hopefully, more will take the time to vote between now and when the poll

closes this Friday...at which time we will ALL be notified of the results

concerning each item voted on. It is easy and painless! And I have even

included a link below for your convenience too. ; )

Thank you everyone!

Adelaide, Co-Moderator

Dwarfism Group

_dwarfism : Polls_ (http://health. groups.. com/group/ dwarfism/ polls)

In a message dated 9/8/08 12:18:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

justwhimsbex (DOT) net writes:

actually, the polls are set up so that the results are sent to the list

members as well as the mods.

this set of polls will end on the 12th. i hope that more people cast a vote

since the end decision will be majority of votes rule.

Whims

************ **Psssst. ..Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion

blog,

plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.

(http://www.stylelis t.com/trends? ncid=aolsty00050 000000014)

[Guest guest]

i chose B.

would you rather i had chosen A ?

***********

Well, maybe there is a God above,

But all that I've ever learned from love

Was how to shoot somebody who outdrew you.

***********

_____

From: dwarfism [mailto:dwarfism ] On Behalf

Of Craig M. Hennon

Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 6:20 PM

Whims Ivey; dwarfism

Subject: Re: Re: seeking guests for TV show

I forgot one.

all 50 of us [me and Adelaide] will be more than happy to loosen the reins

of our extreme censorship. if the occasional adult site, ads for " midget

wrestling " , and a plethora of research students come thru, then oh well! the

job description doesn't include putting up with insults and harassment for

trying to keep this a G rated group, without any bennnies, pay or vacation.

- You are an online listserve moderator....you don't bounce at a bar. You

don't even take the insults over the phone. You get an insult, and all you

have to do is click a button to ban them or submit a response.

Re: Re: seeking guests for TV show

I would like to also add to what Whims says, that in a group as large

as this, there is always a very low response when polls take place. Like

at present...in a group with 2,987 members, thus far only 27-35 have

responded... which have been up since August 29th.

These polls being conducted at present, are asking about changes

you may or may not want to have regarding which types of messages

should be allowed. The majority of votes in each poll will determine the

changes to be made...or not to be made. It's up to each of you to

vote...and it all is anonymous. Not even we moderators know who votes.

So hopefully, more will take the time to vote between now and when the poll

closes this Friday...at which time we will ALL be notified of the results

concerning each item voted on. It is easy and painless! And I have even

included a link below for your convenience too. ; )

Thank you everyone!

Adelaide, Co-Moderator

Dwarfism Group

_dwarfism : Polls_ (http://health. groups.. com/group/ dwarfism/ polls)

In a message dated 9/8/08 12:18:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

justwhimsbex (DOT) net writes:

actually, the polls are set up so that the results are sent to the list

members as well as the mods.

this set of polls will end on the 12th. i hope that more people cast a vote

since the end decision will be majority of votes rule.

Whims

************ **Psssst. ..Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion

blog,

plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.

(http://www.stylelis t.com/trends? ncid=aolsty00050 000000014)

[Guest guest]

Think about how the Internet has changed since this list was migrated

to ; how many more options we have to communicate within the

community.

Whereas back then if you wanted to see what others were up to you or

catch up on what events are going on you:

A. read their website (if they had one)

B. went to the online chat group which Casey founded

C. read the discussion list

Now you can check out MySpace, Facebook and a bunch of other sites

(such as blogs) where we have information and opinions posted. I'm

surprised that LPA doesn't have an 'official' Facebook site; or does it?

There are also more dwarfism centered lists:

AdultLP - Founded: Jan 22, 2002

some districts, such as D1 have their own - Founded: Oct 31, 2003

Also, some lives have changed and people are at a different stage and

may not have the time to fit in discussion list readings. I can think

of quite a few individuals we no longer see posts from.

Add to that the fact that we're processing a lot more information in

general, so some may not be dedicating as much time to the lists.

All in all, as Bob Dylan said 20 years ago " The Times They Are

A-Changin' "

>

> I have a poll question I like to suggest.

>

> In 2000, there was an avg. of 556 messages per month. In 2008, the

avg. is an amazing 170 messages per month. What is a major cause for

this 70% decline??

>

> A. Censorship

> B. Global Warming

> C. Technology

> D. Harry Potter

> E. The TV show " Lost "

> F. All of the above

>

> After heavily thinking this over, I think its F.

>

[Guest guest]

You make some great points, . I agree:), grady.

And another reply, towards the bottom, just for .

>Think about how the Internet has changed since this list was migrated

to ; how many more options we have to communicate within the

community.

Whereas back then if you wanted to see what others were up to you or

catch up on what events are going on you:

A. read their website (if they had one)

B. went to the online chat group which Casey founded

C. read the discussion list

Now you can check out MySpace, Facebook and a bunch of other sites

(such as blogs) where we have information and opinions posted. I'm

surprised that LPA doesn't have an 'official' Facebook site; or does it?

There are also more dwarfism centered lists:

AdultLP - Founded: Jan 22, 2002

some districts, such as D1 have their own - Founded: Oct 31, 2003

Also, some lives have changed and people are at a different stage and

may not have the time to fit in discussion list readings. I can think

of quite a few individuals we no longer see posts from.

Add to that the fact that we're processing a lot more information in

general, so some may not be dedicating as much time to the lists.

All in all, as Bob Dylan said 20 years ago " The Times They Are

A-Changin' "

--------------------------------------------------------------

But, I have one question for this post of yers:

>Re: seeking guests for TV show

Question: How are food and beverage sales for yer theory's ballpark? I

imagine they are not like what they used to be initially too:D.

Has anyone 'experienced' the price of a hot dog and a drink at any of

our pro league ballparks today?!

>I have a theory about these lists and it goes like this:

Overall 10% of those who appear as members actually continue to read

it after their initial sign-up

Leaving us at 298

And of those, only 10% actively participate

Leaving us at 29

So, I'm not surprised at the turnouts we usually get. It's within my

theory's ballpark.

[Guest guest]

Craig --

Being that you are not, and never have been a moderator of this

group, you don't know what you are talking about in any of your half

dozen or so posts today. You have no idea what sort of garbage they

get sent privately. You have no idea how hard they work at trying to

make this place accessible all the while keeping the " I've always

wanted to meet a midget of my own! " posts off. Is that censorship or

is that giving us a place as a community where we don't have to deal

with the garbage we deal with on a daily basis?

You have been allowed a lot of freedom in the email bombings of your

site. Everytime you have changed one pixel on it, you announced it

and the posts went through. You whine that Whims & Adelaide have not

included it in the list of dwarfism sites -- have you every written

them to ask to be included? Or was it just easier to throw an

accusation?

Rose

>

> when a website is posted, we allow it so that the information gets

out. when it is repeated over and over again, we add it to the links

on the Dwarfism web site so that information can be accessed by list

members. i'm sorry you consider that not good enough for you.   -

Whims - last time I checked my site isn't on the dwarfism website. 

The only site of mine that is posted is my personal site from 1999. 

Most of those links are outdated, so if there's some other dwarfism

website that you're referring to....please let me know.

[Guest guest]

I think the answer is pretty obvious (and not listed below).

In 2000, there were less internet resources for people with dwarfism,

including email lists. This was the only game in town.

Now we have Adult LPs, Parents of Little People, the Dwarfs for Christ

list, the chronic pain list, the " official " (not really) LPA online

list, etc. Throw in Myspace, Facebook, and Litttle.com, and I'm

surprised we only have a 2/3 drop in the number of posts.

Bill

On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Craig M. Hennon <ch1974us@...> wrote:

> I have a poll question I like to suggest.

>

> In 2000, there was an avg. of 556 messages per month. In 2008, the avg. is

> an amazing 170 messages per month. What is a major cause for this 70%

> decline??

>

> A. Censorship

> B. Global Warming

> C. Technology

> D. Harry Potter

> E. The TV show " Lost "

> F. All of the above

>

> After heavily thinking this over, I think its F.

[Guest guest]

Rose, Rose, Rose - I can always count on you to set things straight.  You are so

right...you are always right.  I guess that's why you're a moderator. 

BTW - here's my favorite Rose quote (from Titanic)

Rose:I feel as if I¢m in a room screaming and no one even looks up.

First of all, why wasn't this mentioned to me months ago?  I never knew I had to

go through all of this just to get my site link on the lpaonline website?  A

site that took me 10 minutes to navigate just to find these links.  Dan or

whoever is taking care of the site these days.....improve navigation.  On a

serious note.  The site looks much better than before, but the navigation is

terrible and the site is outdated.  If there's no site admin, i'll be more than

glad to take it over.

Censorship is good....if used the right way.  Of course it needs to be used as

you elequently described in your response to me.  I guess that's another reason

why you're a moderator.....nice penmanship.

Whining?  Trust me, I have so much more on my plate to worry about than this.  I

honestly could care less if my site isn't on the lpa website.  If you do place

me on the site, you can add my link right between Jenn's site of viagra and

's Temp Disabled site. 

Email bombing?  If you want to call 3 emails about the site since June bombing?

Than I'm guilty. 

Finally, on my way home this evening from my sporting event I was thinking about

this listserve.  There is no sense of community here.  The moderators are trying

so hard to improve things but you're leaving out the important thing....sense of

togetherness.  I've noticed in the past when a member would post something good

that has happened to them, there's no " way to go " , " congrats " , or follow up

discussion about their achievement.  I think the person would feel good knowing

that this community is publicly commending them.  For example, Kurt posts a

YouTube video of him playing drums, only 1 person mentioned it.  Grady, works

hard to provide these news articles about lps....no one ever says thank you or

talks about the article.  Faye has a talent of taking pictures and writing

blogs, but she can't really mention them because it's on myspace.  I'm not

saying moderators aren't needed for this listserve...of course they're necessary

but for the right

reasons.  I would go on and on, but I don't want to open up another can of

worms.  I'm also tired. 

Night!

CH

 

Re: seeking guests for TV show

Craig --

Being that you are not, and never have been a moderator of this

group, you don't know what you are talking about in any of your half

dozen or so posts today. You have no idea what sort of garbage they

get sent privately. You have no idea how hard they work at trying to

make this place accessible all the while keeping the " I've always

wanted to meet a midget of my own! " posts off. Is that censorship or

is that giving us a place as a community where we don't have to deal

with the garbage we deal with on a daily basis?

You have been allowed a lot of freedom in the email bombings of your

site. Everytime you have changed one pixel on it, you announced it

and the posts went through. You whine that Whims & Adelaide have not

included it in the list of dwarfism sites -- have you every written

them to ask to be included? Or was it just easier to throw an

accusation?

Rose

>

> when a website is posted, we allow it so that the information gets

out. when it is repeated over and over again, we add it to the links

on the Dwarfism web site so that information can be accessed by list

members. i'm sorry you consider that not good enough for you.   -

Whims - last time I checked my site isn't on the dwarfism website. 

The only site of mine that is posted is my personal site from 1999. 

Most of those links are outdated, so if there's some other dwarfism

website that you're referring to....please let me know.

[Guest guest]

Awww, thank you, Bill! We needed this! With all the unfair criticisms

and blame we are receiving, your kind words of support are a breath of fresh

air to us both. And much appreciated too.

Adelaide, Co-Moderator

Dwarfism Group

In a message dated 9/9/08 6:09:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

tslug1@... writes:

And I'd like to add (even though I'm guilty of occasionally lobbing

complaints) that Whims and Adelaide are doing a great job as

moderators, and it is a thankless, time-consuming task.

Also, Craig, the LPA Online web site has nothing to do with this list.

In fact, this list has nothing to do with LPA period. And Dan

Kennedy is not webmaster of LPA Online. He publicly announced his

retirement from his years of dedicated volunteer service over three

(?) years ago. Slamming Whims, Rose or Dan for the flaws of the LPA

website is pointless.

Just to let you know, LPA finally approved a budget to hire someone to

upgrade and maintain the website (it will have another new look, and

professional programming soon). However, if you're interested in

helping, I'm sure they'd be glad to have you. LPA runs on people

volunteering to help. Just go to the website and click on the

" contact admin " link on the bottom.

Bill

**************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog,

plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.

(http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)

[Guest guest]

craig, sorry that you didn't see the several posts that requested members

send us their links, so that we could add them to the file of links we have

on the site.

Now that you've so kindly brought it to our attention that some of those

links are outdated, we'll be glad to graze thru them again and delete ones

that are dead.

I'm not sure how you are navigating the site.

I click on the left hand side, click FILES, and there are " other dwarfism

groups " listed, as well as " businesses to serve you " and the " LPA job list "

that we received from Fred Short.

If you click on the left hand side on LINKS, we've put up other enterprises

that have asked to be listed.

It took me 2 clicks, but you may well have some hand-eye coordination

problem I'm completely unaware of.

From the tone of your letter, apparently you are also unsure of who exactly

the moderators of Dwarfism are. Once again I'll clarify that.

I, Whims, am a moderator. And owner [for all that will get me-- a buck and

owner status and I can get coffee at mickey d's]

Adelaide [bASHUM] is my co-moderator. She also owns the LPs Chronic Pain

group.

Between the 2 of us we field inappropriate posts, requests for links, weed

out dead links, approve messages, and try to improve the site between work,

family, doctors and daily responsibilities.

Rose is the owner of adultLPs. She retired from Dwarfism quite some time ago

due to other pressing needs.

Dan Kennedy and Bill Bradford also retired from their positions for family,

job and health issues that demanded thir attention.

So, for all the appearance of a busy little workshop here to instantly

approve messages and meet the needs of the list, there are 2 of us. Period.

We have had a couple of other people [kelly and david] who were unable to

coordinate the demands of the list and the demands of daily life.

Perhaps with the blossoming of other dwrfism related groups, you have

confused the number of mods that are available on each list.

Whims

***********

Re: Re: seeking guests for TV show

Rose, Rose, Rose - I can always count on you to set things straight.  You

are so right...you are always right.  I guess that's why you're a

moderator. 

BTW - here's my favorite Rose quote (from Titanic)

Rose:I feel as if I¢m in a room screaming and no one even looks up.

First of all, why wasn't this mentioned to me months ago?  I never knew I

had to go through all of this just to get my site link on the lpaonline

website?  A site that took me 10 minutes to navigate just to find these

links.  Dan or whoever is taking care of the site these days.....improve

navigation.  On a serious note.  The site looks much better than before, but

the navigation is terrible and the site is outdated.  If there's no site

admin, i'll be more than glad to take it over.

Censorship is good....if used the right way.  Of course it needs to be used

as you elequently described in your response to me.  I guess that's another

reason why you're a moderator.....nice penmanship.

Whining?  Trust me, I have so much more on my plate to worry about than

this.  I honestly could care less if my site isn't on the lpa website.  If

you do place me on the site, you can add my link right between Jenn's site

of viagra and 's Temp Disabled site. 

Email bombing?  If you want to call 3 emails about the site since June

bombing? Than I'm guilty. 

Finally, on my way home this evening from my sporting event I was thinking

about this listserve.  There is no sense of community here.  The moderators

are trying so hard to improve things but you're leaving out the important

thing....sense of togetherness.  I've noticed in the past when a member

would post something good that has happened to them, there's no " way to go " ,

" congrats " , or follow up discussion about their achievement.  I think the

person would feel good knowing that this community is publicly commending

them.  For example, Kurt posts a YouTube video of him playing drums, only 1

person mentioned it.  Grady, works hard to provide these news articles about

lps....no one ever says thank you or talks about the article.  Faye has a

talent of taking pictures and writing blogs, but she can't really mention

them because it's on myspace.  I'm not saying moderators aren't needed for

this listserve...of course they're necessary but for the right reasons.  I

would go on and on, but I don't want to open up another can of worms.  I'm

also tired. 

Night!

CH

 

Re: seeking guests for TV show

Craig --

Being that you are not, and never have been a moderator of this group, you

don't know what you are talking about in any of your half dozen or so posts

today. You have no idea what sort of garbage they get sent privately. You

have no idea how hard they work at trying to make this place accessible all

the while keeping the " I've always wanted to meet a midget of my own! " posts

off. Is that censorship or is that giving us a place as a community where we

don't have to deal with the garbage we deal with on a daily basis?

You have been allowed a lot of freedom in the email bombings of your site.

Everytime you have changed one pixel on it, you announced it and the posts

went through. You whine that Whims & Adelaide have not included it in the

list of dwarfism sites -- have you every written them to ask to be included?

Or was it just easier to throw an accusation?

Rose

>

> when a website is posted, we allow it so that the information gets

out. when it is repeated over and over again, we add it to the links

on the Dwarfism web site so that information can be accessed by list

members. i'm sorry you consider that not good enough for you.   -

Whims - last time I checked my site isn't on the dwarfism website. 

The only site of mine that is posted is my personal site from 1999. 

Most of those links are outdated, so if there's some other dwarfism

website that you're referring to....please let me know.

[Guest guest]

And I'd like to add (even though I'm guilty of occasionally lobbing

complaints) that Whims and Adelaide are doing a great job as

moderators, and it is a thankless, time-consuming task.

Also, Craig, the LPA Online web site has nothing to do with this list.

In fact, this list has nothing to do with LPA period. And Dan

Kennedy is not webmaster of LPA Online. He publicly announced his

retirement from his years of dedicated volunteer service over three

(?) years ago. Slamming Whims, Rose or Dan for the flaws of the LPA

website is pointless.

Just to let you know, LPA finally approved a budget to hire someone to

upgrade and maintain the website (it will have another new look, and

professional programming soon). However, if you're interested in

helping, I'm sure they'd be glad to have you. LPA runs on people

volunteering to help. Just go to the website and click on the

" contact admin " link on the bottom.

Bill