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Hi,

I have had same problem at times and usually wake up in a panic. This

happened while on effexor so I stopped it, but it also happened on prozac

so buspar was added.

Perhaps you could up the dose of sinequan which might give better sleep

,But check it out with a doctor. Perhaps you have a sleep disorder. Did

you know that sleep apnea used to be called CFS? I didn't know that until

today when PULM told me. Goes to show that DD can be most anything!

I have seen on lyme list that people have very vivid dreams and will be

interested in feedback here.

Take care,

CHristie

:

>I have a question about sleep. Just before bedtime I take 1mg of

>klonopin , 5 mg of doxepin, 5mg of ambien (and sometime I add neurotin

>-I do not have pain just cognitive and physical fatigue) . My problem is

>overly vivid dreams. Some times the dreams are disturbing sometimes

>pleasant. If I have a night mare I just make sure my dog is in my

>bedroom and then I am OK. At the end of each dream I wake up. I usually

>get back to sleep OK but I could do without the dreams. I have always

>had vivid dreams but it has gotten to an extreme point. Short of

>psychoanalysis is there any way to tone this down?

>

>Thanks & I will see you in my dreams.

>

>Steve

>

>

>

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My vivid dream are not always bad today I woke up petty my old horse -- until I

finally figured out is was the pillow. It is a good thing I do not have a dream

catcher it would be all clogged up &

I would have to clean it out each day.

Steve

or ChristieTabacchi wrote:

> Hi,

>

> I have had same problem at times and usually wake up in a panic. This

> happened while on effexor so I stopped it, but it also happened on prozac

> so buspar was added.

> Perhaps you could up the dose of sinequan which might give better sleep

> ,But check it out with a doctor. Perhaps you have a sleep disorder. Did

> you know that sleep apnea used to be called CFS? I didn't know that until

> today when PULM told me. Goes to show that DD can be most anything!

>

> I have seen on lyme list that people have very vivid dreams and will be

> interested in feedback here.

>

> Take care,

>

> CHristie

>

> :

> >I have a question about sleep. Just before bedtime I take 1mg of

> >klonopin , 5 mg of doxepin, 5mg of ambien (and sometime I add neurotin

> >-I do not have pain just cognitive and physical fatigue) . My problem is

> >overly vivid dreams. Some times the dreams are disturbing sometimes

> >pleasant. If I have a night mare I just make sure my dog is in my

> >bedroom and then I am OK. At the end of each dream I wake up. I usually

> >get back to sleep OK but I could do without the dreams. I have always

> >had vivid dreams but it has gotten to an extreme point. Short of

> >psychoanalysis is there any way to tone this down?

> >

> >Thanks & I will see you in my dreams.

> >

> >Steve

> >

> >

> >

> >---------------------------

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-Gloe: beautiful and inspiring, I'm printing this one! Taz

-- In bodyforlifeegroups, " gloe2000 " <gloe2000@g...> wrote:

> Hope you enjoy this, sent from a friend ----

>

> DREAMS~

>

> The first day of school our professor introduced

> himself and challenged us to get to know someone we didn't already

know. I stood up to look around

> when a gentle hand touched my shoulder. I turned around to find a

wrinkled, little old lady beaming up at me with a smile that lit up

her entire

> being.

> She said, " Hi handsome. My name is Rose. I'm

> eighty-seven years old. Can I give you a hug? " I laughed and

enthusiastically responded, " Of

> course you may! " and she gave me a giant squeeze.

>

> " Why are you in college at such a young, innocent

> age? " I asked. She jokingly replied, " I'm here to meet a rich

husband, get married, have a

> couple of children, and then retire and travel. " " No seriously, " I

asked. I was curious what may have motivated her to be taking on this

challenge

> at her age. " I always dreamed of having a college

> education and now I'm getting one! " she told me.

>

> After class we walked to the student union building and shared a

chocolate milkshake. We became instant friends. Every day for

> the next three months we would leave class together and talk

nonstop. I was always mesmerized

> listening to this " time machine " as she shared her

> wisdom and experience with me.

>

> Over the course of the year, Rose became a campus icon and she

easily made friends wherever she went. She loved to dress up and she

reveled went. She loved to dress up and she reveled

> in the attention bestowed upon her from the other

> students. She was living it up.

>

> At the end of the semester we invited Rose to speak at our football

banquet. I'll never forget what she taught us. She was introduced and

> stepped up to the podium. As she began to deliver her prepared

speech, she dropped her three by five cards on the floor. Frustrated

and a little

> embarrassed she leaned into the microphone and simply said " I'm

sorry I'm so jittery. I gave up beer for Lent and this whiskey is

killing me!

> I'll never get my speech back in order so let me just tell you what

I know. " As we laughed she cleared her throat and began:

>

> " We do not stop playing because we are old;

> we grow old because we stop playing.

>

> There are only four secrets to staying young, being happy, and

achieving success. " You have to laugh and find humor every day.

>

> " You've got to have a dream.

> When you lose your dreams, you die. We have so many people walking

around who are dead and don't even know it! " " There is a huge

difference

> between growing older and growing up. If you are nineteen years old

and lie in bed for one full year and don't do one productive thing,

you will

> turn twenty years old. If I am eighty-seven years old and stay in

bed for a year and never do anything I will turn eighty-eight.

> Anybody can grow older. That doesn't take any talent or ability.

The idea is to grow up by

> always finding the opportunity in change. "

>

> Have no regrets.

> The elderly usually don't have regrets for what we did, but rather

for things we did not do. The only people who fear death are those

with

> regrets. " She concluded her speech by courageously singing " The

Rose. " She challenged each of us to study the lyrics and live

> them out in our daily lives.

>

> ~At the years end Rose finished the college degree she had begun

all those years ago. One week after graduation Rose died peacefully

in her sleep.

> Over two thousand college students attended her

> funeral in tribute to the wonderful woman who taught by example

that it's never too late to be all you can possibly be.

>

> ~~If you read this, please send

> this peaceful word of advice to your friends and family, they'll

really enjoy it!

>

> We send these words in loving memory of ROSE @}~~~

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<<Donna, last week you said that you *dream* about Maddie talking. I had my

first dream that Seth talked, after I read that. He had the sweetest voice

you ever heard. He talked about how beautiful the mountains were, what he

loved, and how happy he was. In my dream I was sitting there stunned

thinking that these were the thoughts that were there all the time, and I

never realized how full his life had been. (I think of him as a baby still.)

I was crying in my dream, not because Seth could talk, but at the beauty of

what he was saying, the wisdom with which he spoke and how absolutely

heavenly his voice was. I woke up with tears running from my eyes. I'm

sure

the first time Seth grunts a gravely *mom*, I will recapture the feelings I

had in that dream. Something to hold on to anyway.

Gail>>

Gail -

Thanks for sharing your dream. I, too, have had dreams where

was talking. She has never said anything too profound, just stuff like,

" Mom, can I have a drink? " or " Can I have a snack? " . 's wants &

needs are so simple - music, toilet, food. She can sign these things & does

independently sometimes, but she's usually just content to wait until we get

her what she needs. She's not motivated to communicate much - is really

happy to just sit (or rock) in the sun all day (sort of like a cat!).

She's doing that right now & is so content. Great news about Errick's C.F.

test being negative!

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In a message dated 2/11/01 12:50:06 PM Eastern Standard Time,

burnett@... writes:

<< Gail -

Thanks for sharing your dream. I, too, have had dreams where

was talking. She has never said anything too profound, just stuff like,

" Mom, can I have a drink? " or " Can I have a snack? " . 's wants &

needs are so simple - music, toilet, food. She can sign these things & does

independently sometimes, but she's usually just content to wait until we get

her what she needs. She's not motivated to communicate much - is really

happy to just sit (or rock) in the sun all day (sort of like a cat!).

She's doing that right now & is so content. Great news about Errick's C.F.

test being negative! >>

,

That's so cool that Steph is into music. What is her favorite type of music?

Seth loves RAP!!!!!!! This in a house that listens to classical music all

the time. LOL I got him a " Nursery Rhyme Rap " tape and he loves it. LOL

It is cute to hear the rhymes to rap. LOL

Gail

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Rex,

My 5 year old has had bizarre (and tormenting to him) dreams. One time it

was that some of the letters of the alphabet were missing - he was a total

wreck over it. Another time he woke up and was terrified over a dream about

a birthday cake that was way too big. Most of the time he doesn't want to

talk about his bad dreams. I was almost relieved when last week he had a

bad dream about mean dogs - that would almost seem normal...

Stacey

Dreams

We're off to the pediatrician for our first consultation on OCD for

our five year old. We have a list of psychiatrists and -ologists

lined up. I've been reading, but I have a simple question that I'm

hoping someone in this group can answer.

My son has obsessive fears. All of you know the heartbreak of this.

My question is what happens while our children sleep. Do they obsess

while in their dreams?

Thanks

Rex in Atlanta

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Rex,

My 5 year old has had bizarre (and tormenting to him) dreams. One time it

was that some of the letters of the alphabet were missing - he was a total

wreck over it. Another time he woke up and was terrified over a dream about

a birthday cake that was way too big. Most of the time he doesn't want to

talk about his bad dreams. I was almost relieved when last week he had a

bad dream about mean dogs - that would almost seem normal...

Stacey

Dreams

We're off to the pediatrician for our first consultation on OCD for

our five year old. We have a list of psychiatrists and -ologists

lined up. I've been reading, but I have a simple question that I'm

hoping someone in this group can answer.

My son has obsessive fears. All of you know the heartbreak of this.

My question is what happens while our children sleep. Do they obsess

while in their dreams?

Thanks

Rex in Atlanta

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Dear Stacey and Rex,

I don't know whether kids obsess during their dreams, but my

daughter has dreams about her obsessions - she has nightmares about throwing

up pretty often when her OCD is bad.

Your son's nightmare about letters of the alphabet missing is just

priceless. It's heartbreaking and so imaginative at the same time. And what a

thing to worry about...

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Hello Rex, yes according to my 7-year-old (onset at 4), OCD does infest her

dreams. I've also noticed her ticcing and doing compulsions such as tapping

in her sleep.

One good thing is, with treatment, these things happen less and less while

sleeping...and during the day as well.

Good luck with the doctor's appointment. I know it may not seem like it

now, but your boy is lucky. His parents are aware there is a problem and

are seeking help for him. Many children suffer for many years before

receiving an accurate diagnosis and effective treatment.

Take care,

Kathy R. in Indiana

----- Original Message -----

> My son has obsessive fears. All of you know the heartbreak of this.

> My question is what happens while our children sleep. Do they obsess

> while in their dreams?

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Hello Rex, yes according to my 7-year-old (onset at 4), OCD does infest her

dreams. I've also noticed her ticcing and doing compulsions such as tapping

in her sleep.

One good thing is, with treatment, these things happen less and less while

sleeping...and during the day as well.

Good luck with the doctor's appointment. I know it may not seem like it

now, but your boy is lucky. His parents are aware there is a problem and

are seeking help for him. Many children suffer for many years before

receiving an accurate diagnosis and effective treatment.

Take care,

Kathy R. in Indiana

----- Original Message -----

> My son has obsessive fears. All of you know the heartbreak of this.

> My question is what happens while our children sleep. Do they obsess

> while in their dreams?

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Rex,

My 9 year old was just diagnosed, and your question broke my heart at a whole

new level

-- the likelihood that these beautiful blessings NEVER get any rest from their

torments!

I'm having a hard time as all of this information settles into my psyche.

Best of luck to you as you start on your own journey with this diagnosis.

patti in CA

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Rex,

My 9 year old was just diagnosed, and your question broke my heart at a whole

new level

-- the likelihood that these beautiful blessings NEVER get any rest from their

torments!

I'm having a hard time as all of this information settles into my psyche.

Best of luck to you as you start on your own journey with this diagnosis.

patti in CA

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Rex, as I mentioned in the reply to Kathy on your subject, I've

observed my son (12) going through some of his " movements " in

his sleep. He doesn't really have obsessive fears, that I know of

now. When he was younger, he was afraid of death. He'd obsess on

little things, cuts and when they would heal, was he going to get

cancer....

I was wondering if your son is having a hard time sleeping or having

bad dreams or moving in his sleep or something since you asked the

question??

> We're off to the pediatrician for our first consultation on OCD for

> our five year old. We have a list of psychiatrists and -ologists

> lined up. I've been reading, but I have a simple question that I'm

> hoping someone in this group can answer.

>

> My son has obsessive fears. All of you know the heartbreak of

this.

> My question is what happens while our children sleep. Do they

obsess

> while in their dreams?

>

> Thanks

>

> Rex in Atlanta

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I mainly asked the question out of curiousity and with the hope that

he'd have some reprieve from the ocd demons. It seems to me he moves

about less in his sleep.

Thanks

Rex

> > We're off to the pediatrician for our first consultation on OCD

for

> > our five year old. We have a list of psychiatrists and -ologists

> > lined up. I've been reading, but I have a simple question that

I'm

> > hoping someone in this group can answer.

> >

> > My son has obsessive fears. All of you know the heartbreak of

> this.

> > My question is what happens while our children sleep. Do they

> obsess

> > while in their dreams?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Rex in Atlanta

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I have wondered about the dream/nightmare connection for a long time, too. My

daughter had horrible night terrors for a while when she was younger--seems like

she saw something horrible on the ground she didn't want to look at. She used

to holler as she was running through the house in her night terror sleep " make

them go away! " Upon retrospect, I'm pretty sure she was seeing swarms of

insects--insects have been a source of her fears/obessions many times. She

tells us she doesn't like watching the Discover channel because they're shows

have too many pictures of swarms of things...

Now that she's older (9and a half), she's getting to where she remembers parts

of her dreams. She reports that they're " weird " , but I always had strange

dreams too. They're not always bad. The most disconcerting image she's

described lately is that she can't see herself " right " in her dreams--that she

sees her face, but a part of it's out of focus, or she sees the back of her head

only--and she clearly wants to see herself clearly! I never see myself in my

dreams--I simply am myself. So this struggle with dissociation is interesting

to me.

Kathy, thanks for pointing out that the dreams seem to get better with

treatment. Maia did have a really good phase--and only recently with a major

OCD flare-up has she been reporting disturbing dreams again.

Yes, I want her to feel peacefully rested. I suspect sometimes that is not the

case. During and after OCD flare-ups, her sleep patterns get out of kilter.

Then she is exhausted. I just want to cuddle her and make it better, sometimes.

But I know she must learn how to manage this herself--I want her to feel

confident and competent (she'll always be loved!)

in Lubbock

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On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:04:23

Kathy wrote:

>Hello Rex, yes according to my 7-year-old (onset at 4), OCD does infest her

>dreams. I've also noticed her ticcing and doing compulsions such as tapping

>in her sleep.

>

>One good thing is, with treatment, these things happen less and less while

>sleeping...and during the day as well.

>

>Good luck with the doctor's appointment. I know it may not seem like it

>now, but your boy is lucky. His parents are aware there is a problem and

>are seeking help for him. Many children suffer for many years before

>receiving an accurate diagnosis and effective treatment.

>

>Take care,

>Kathy R. in Indiana

>

>----- Original Message -----

>

>> My son has obsessive fears. All of you know the heartbreak of this.

>> My question is what happens while our children sleep. Do they obsess

>> while in their dreams?

>

>

>

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Hi Rex:

As I do not have OCD myself I asked my son, Steve, and he

confirmed my suspicion that people with OCD do obsess while dreaming.

I do however have sub-clinical GAD (some call this OCD in disguise!)

and can assure you that I had many anxiety dreams as a child, and

even have a few as an adult.

OCD is cruel and attacks its suffers worst when they are at their most

relaxed so you can expect it to be in dreams. However with good

treatment your son will be able to put OCD more into the background of

his life and of his dreams. Good luck, take care, please keep us

posted on your son's progress, aloha, kathy (h)

kathyh@...

> We're off to the pediatrician for our first consultation on OCD for

> our five year old. We have a list of psychiatrists and -ologists

> lined up. I've been reading, but I have a simple question that I'm

> hoping someone in this group can answer.

>

> My son has obsessive fears. All of you know the heartbreak of this.

> My question is what happens while our children sleep. Do they obsess

> while in their dreams?

>

> Thanks

>

> Rex in Atlanta

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Hi, I was a nurses aide at a nursing home befor I became disabled. I really

loved my job, and my patients. I have dreams that I go back to work in the

special care unit(S.C.U) unit and someone else has taken my place and they

wont let me work there any more. I wake up feeling the same desperation I

felt when I began to realize that it would be a long time until I could

return to work, if ever. Sometimes when I'm awake I wonder how and why all of

this started. I used to be able to lift 200lb. men, to put them to bed. I

used to be able to walk and kneel and not think twice about it, now I haven't

even been able to take a bath, because I cant bend or kneel because of my

joints. I dont know if this is similar to what you're going through, it's

been 2 years and 5 months since I've worked. I still pray to God that one day

I will be able to go back, even if it's part time.I think most things happen

for a reason, and hopefully that reason will be revealed to us one day.

Sincerely, Diane.

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In a message dated 6/12/03 9:51:34 PM Central Daylight Time,

alrt@... writes:

> I mostly have floating torso dreams unless the specific theme of the

> dream is walking or driving my chair.

Hey me too! Well, I'm more a floating head (unless the dream involves

physical pain or pleasure then my body parts appear).

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I always have dreams i can walk or do things i cant but sometimes i have a

reocurring nightmare that i am running away from something in the woods and then

i remember i cant walk and fall to the ground and try to crawl and squirm

away. its scarey though. i also have the reoccuring dream that i can drive the

realize i cant. wonder what all this means.

kimi

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Ha...I mostly have floating torso dreams unless the specific theme of the

dream is walking or driving my chair. My brother used to dream of me

walking with my legs bent because of my contractures. Funny he couldn't

picture them straight.

At 09:59 PM 6/12/03 -0400, you wrote:

>Hey, I was wondering, when you dream at night do you ever dream that you can

>walk? And if so, is it a recurring dream?

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I have really weird dreams. When I dream I'm walking, I'm usually

either " learning " to walk (kind of half floating/half walking) or I

suddenly remember I can't walk and fall down!

I have three frequently reoccuring dreams:

1. I am in my wheelchair and either fall or am pushed down a flight of

steps or over a precipice.

2. I need to get from Point A to Point B but have to find my way

through a maze of underground tunnels, elevator systems, automatic

doors, and ramps.

3. I only need one more class to graduate from college (fyi I

graduated 11 years ago!) and I keep flunking it, missing it, or

forgeting to go to it all quarter.

I have also dreamt several times that I am a serial killer, but that's

probably a little too much information...

Jenn

Hey, I was wondering, when you dream at night do you ever dream that

you can walk? And if so, is it a recurring dream?

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In a message dated 6/13/2003 8:15:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

nekrosys@... writes:

> 3. I only need one more class to graduate from college (fyi I

> graduated 11 years ago!) and I keep flunking it, missing it, or

> forgeting to go to it all quarter.

>

Too weird! I have the same reoccurring dream too, expect it's high school,

not college. I wonder what it means.

As far as walking in dreams, it depends on what kind of dream it is.

Sometimes I'm in a wheelchair and other times I'm not (even in the same dream).

This

one friend of mine has very vivid dreams of me and I asked her once if I'm

disabled in her dreams. She said that I'm always walking or doing things I don't

normally do (like driving a car).

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I've dreamed I was running, but haven't dreamed that lately. Usually I'm

sitting somewhere I think but not in my chair. Actually I don't see myself in

my

dreams, I'm observing everything around me.

Kathie

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