dreams

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In a message dated 9/25/2005 9:21:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, nancygailus@... writes:

I tend to have things affect my dreams from television. In fact, I have sometimes made sure that what I watched was not the LAST thing I watched due to content. What I read can affect things, too, but television is much more visual.

This can happen with me as well. If I have spent a lot of time playing a computer game or reading a book, my dreams can take on those themes.

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In a message dated 9/25/2005 9:21:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, nancygailus@... writes:

I tend to have things affect my dreams from television. In fact, I have sometimes made sure that what I watched was not the LAST thing I watched due to content. What I read can affect things, too, but television is much more visual.

This can happen with me as well. If I have spent a lot of time playing a computer game or reading a book, my dreams can take on those themes.

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I too have dreams of flying and having a weightlessness where I can bouce around. Some dreams I am flying over water then can hit the water and then "fly" underwater.

But I also believe they are just that, dreams.

Shaun.VISIGOTH@... wrote:

In a message dated 9/25/2005 9:21:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, nancygailus@... writes:

I tend to have things affect my dreams from television. In fact, I have sometimes made sure that what I watched was not the LAST thing I watched due to content. What I read can affect things, too, but television is much more visual.

This can happen with me as well. If I have spent a lot of time playing a computer game or reading a book, my dreams can take on those themes.

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I too have dreams of flying and having a weightlessness where I can bouce around. Some dreams I am flying over water then can hit the water and then "fly" underwater.

But I also believe they are just that, dreams.

Shaun.VISIGOTH@... wrote:

In a message dated 9/25/2005 9:21:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, nancygailus@... writes:

I tend to have things affect my dreams from television. In fact, I have sometimes made sure that what I watched was not the LAST thing I watched due to content. What I read can affect things, too, but television is much more visual.

This can happen with me as well. If I have spent a lot of time playing a computer game or reading a book, my dreams can take on those themes.

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[Guest guest]

I too have dreams of flying and having a weightlessness where I can bouce around. Some dreams I am flying over water then can hit the water and then "fly" underwater.

But I also believe they are just that, dreams.

Shaun.VISIGOTH@... wrote:

In a message dated 9/25/2005 9:21:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, nancygailus@... writes:

I tend to have things affect my dreams from television. In fact, I have sometimes made sure that what I watched was not the LAST thing I watched due to content. What I read can affect things, too, but television is much more visual.

This can happen with me as well. If I have spent a lot of time playing a computer game or reading a book, my dreams can take on those themes.

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This happens to me too. Books and especially TV.

Inger

Dreams

I tend to have things affect my dreams from television. In fact, I have sometimes made sure that what I watched was not the LAST thing I watched due to content. What I read can affect things, too, but television is much more visual.If you love something, set it free! So it is with books. See what I mean atwww.bookcrossing.com/friend/nheckoblogcritics.orghttp://notesfromnancy.blogspot.com Heckofreelance proofreadernancygailus@...

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Anyone else given up smoking? How long do nasty withdrawl symptoms last? Especially the feeling sick one and strangely enough slightly manic - talking fast - stimming more, a bit pacey (wanting to pace) sort of thing.

Yes -- if you can give it about two weeks you should really start feeling a lot better. That's how it was with me. Just know that the current situation really is temporary and just try to ride it out. Drinking water was something that seemed to help me a lot.

Amy

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,

Sometimes when I quit I make up an excel spreadsheet that tracks how

many I have a day and when, and then I begin cutting out cigarettes

one by one, slowly, over a period of weeks, usually increasing the

time between each one.

This lessens the withdawal symptoms considerably.

I tend to have four types of them:

1) Cravings for cigarettes

2) General irritability

3) Increased hunger

4) Occassional dreams about strange bugs crawling all over the walls.

Sometimes I dream that I wake up and still see them. And some times I

do wake up and they gradually fade as the memory of the dream does.

Tom

Trying to give up smoking seems to be affecting my sleep - like my

quality of sleep is not as good and mind thinking lots of odd things -

half dreams half real. Like last night my mind was thinking of

polaroties(sp?), daulity that kind of thing. Whilst I am awake it

almost feels like I am half asleep - like dreaming waking almost -

and tired due to poor quality sleep. Going slightly nuts over

withdrawl sysptoms - maybe I should chart them :-)

Anyone else given up smoking? How long do nasty withdrawl symptoms

last? Especially the feeling sick one and strangely enough slightly

manic - talking fast - stimming more, a bit pacey (wanting to pace)

sort of thing.

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Strange you should mention bugs - I was dreaming of trying to kill a

large black bug the other night and it just would not die. Of course

I later anaylised(sp?) this :-)

I really do think my brain is going a bit screwy though - keep

thinking I see things out of corners of eyes and nothing there -

makes me wonder exactly what ciggarettes were doing to my brain,

keeping me sane :-) I just think it's a case of my brain rebelling

because I've taken one of it's drugs away - ah well I'll just look

upon it as a scientific expiriment in withdrawl.

> ,

>

> Sometimes when I quit I make up an excel spreadsheet that tracks

how

> many I have a day and when, and then I begin cutting out cigarettes

> one by one, slowly, over a period of weeks, usually increasing the

> time between each one.

>

> This lessens the withdawal symptoms considerably.

>

> I tend to have four types of them:

>

> 1) Cravings for cigarettes

> 2) General irritability

> 3) Increased hunger

> 4) Occassional dreams about strange bugs crawling all over the

walls.

> Sometimes I dream that I wake up and still see them. And some times

I

> do wake up and they gradually fade as the memory of the dream does.

>

> Tom

>

[Guest guest]

I have the answer.

If all you folk are having troubling times when giving up tobacco,

simple remedy,

Dont give it up.

You cant have withdrawl symptons when you arent withdrawing?

LOL.

Shaun.greebohere <julie.stevenson16@...> wrote:

Strange you should mention bugs - I was dreaming of trying to kill a large black bug the other night and it just would not die. Of course I later anaylised(sp?) this :-)I really do think my brain is going a bit screwy though - keep thinking I see things out of corners of eyes and nothing there - makes me wonder exactly what ciggarettes were doing to my brain, keeping me sane :-) I just think it's a case of my brain rebelling because I've taken one of it's drugs away - ah well I'll just look upon it as a scientific expiriment in withdrawl.> ,> > Sometimes when I quit I make up an excel spreadsheet that tracks how > many I have a day and when, and then I begin cutting out cigarettes >

one by one, slowly, over a period of weeks, usually increasing the > time between each one.> > This lessens the withdawal symptoms considerably.> > I tend to have four types of them:> > 1) Cravings for cigarettes> 2) General irritability> 3) Increased hunger> 4) Occassional dreams about strange bugs crawling all over the walls. > Sometimes I dream that I wake up and still see them. And some times I > do wake up and they gradually fade as the memory of the dream does.> > Tom>

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When I gave up nine years ago I used the water guzzling tactic every time I felt like one and it worked well. For about two months I felt like killing anyone near me so I took it really bad coming of the addiction. The hardest part was hypocritical government advertisements telling people to give up without actually banning them because the eovernmnent has its own addiction to tobacco taxes. made me want to keep smoking.

Evan"Amy L. " <amyb_short@...> wrote:

Anyone else given up smoking? How long do nasty withdrawl symptoms last? Especially the feeling sick one and strangely enough slightly manic - talking fast - stimming more, a bit pacey (wanting to pace) sort of thing.

Yes -- if you can give it about two weeks you should really start feeling a lot better. That's how it was with me. Just know that the current situation really is temporary and just try to ride it out. Drinking water was something that seemed to help me a lot.

Amy

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Evan,

That is a funny thing. The government tells people to quit smoking yet it is as addicted to the taxes as the people are to the tabacco. Taxes on cigarettes are so high they more than double the cost. Much of that tax is paid by the poorest people since they tend to smoke more than middle class and higher folks.

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sounds like you haven't been participating with our legislative efforts in the last several years .... in talking with the legislators, it is more possible than you appear to understand. Please contact the State Senator or Representative in your district(s) and begin to interact with them. We have the honor of having 2 Reps as patients in our office .... they are strongly 'on our side'.

Uncle Vern's vision IS possible.

The other thing about his vision and efforts that we (the CAO) has discovered: you always ask for more than you want, using the least you will accept as your fall back position.

Sunny

Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon 2677 Willakenzie Road, 7C

Eugene, Oregon, 97401

541- 344- 0509; Fx; 541- 344- 0955

From: "" <waj549@...> Subject: DreamsDate: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 18:24:53 -0000I dream that I was 21 years old again and looked like Tom Cruise. Iread Dr. Saboe's post about becoming gatekeepers for WC and gettingattending physician status. That is something to put on the table asa bargaining chip but it isn't going to happen anytime in the nextcouple of years.Dr. Setera's position is more politically realistic. 30 visits in 90days is the best we can hope for in the foreseeable future.Let's work together to realize our common goals. No lines in the sand.Bill , DCPortland, OROregonDCs rules:1. Keep correspondence professional; the purpose of the listserve is to foster communication and collegiality. No personal attacks on listserve members will be tolerated.2. Always sign your e-mails with your first and last name.3. The listserve is not secure; your e-mail could end up anywhere. However, it is against the rules of the listserve to copy, print, forward, or otherwise distribute correspondence written by another member without his or her consent, unless all personal identifiers have been removed.

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Amen Sunny!

We should not compromise simply for

political expediency. However, I would agree that the “24 visits, 90 days”

proposal could be a fall-back position.

Glenn

Glenn F. Gumaer, B.S., D.C.

Chiropractic Physician

Northside Chiropractic Clinic

1240 N. Riverside Avenue

Medford, OR 97501-4619

541-770-1330 ofc

541-770-7090 fax

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12:21 PM

waj549@...;

Subject: RE: Dreams

sounds like you haven't been participating with our legislative

efforts in the last several years .... in talking with the legislators, it is

more possible than you appear to understand. Please contact the State

Senator or Representative in your district(s) and begin to interact with

them. We have the honor of having 2 Reps as patients in our office ....

they are strongly 'on our side'.

Uncle Vern's vision IS possible.

The other thing about his vision and efforts that we (the CAO)

has discovered: you always ask for more

than you want, using the least you will accept as your fall back

position.

Sunny

Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC

Fibromyalgia Care

Center of Oregon

2677 Willakenzie Road, 7C

Eugene,

Oregon, 97401

541- 344- 0509; Fx; 541- 344- 0955

From: " " <waj549@...>

Subject: Dreams

Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 18:24:53 -0000

I dream that I was 21 years old again and looked like Tom Cruise. I

read Dr. Saboe's post about becoming gatekeepers for WC and getting

attending physician status. That is something to put on the table as

a bargaining chip but it isn't going to happen anytime in the next

couple of years.

Dr. Setera's position is more politically realistic. 30 visits in 90

days is the best we can hope for in the foreseeable future.

Let's work together to realize our common goals. No lines in the sand.

Bill , DC

Portland, OR

OregonDCs rules:

1. Keep correspondence professional; the purpose of the listserve is to foster

communication and collegiality. No personal attacks on listserve members will

be tolerated.

2. Always sign your e-mails with your first and last name.

3. The listserve is not secure; your e-mail could end up anywhere. However, it

is against the rules of the listserve to copy, print, forward, or otherwise

distribute correspondence written by another member without his or her consent,

unless all personal identifiers have been removed.

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Actually Bill,

It's more probable than not that it is going to happen this next session.

Vern

Dreams

> I dream that I was 21 years old again and looked like Tom Cruise. I

> read Dr. Saboe's post about becoming gatekeepers for WC and getting

> attending physician status. That is something to put on the table as

> a bargaining chip but it isn't going to happen anytime in the next

> couple of years.

>

> Dr. Setera's position is more politically realistic. 30 visits in 90

> days is the best we can hope for in the foreseeable future.

>

> Let's work together to realize our common goals. No lines in the sand.

>

> Bill , DC

> Portland, OR

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> OregonDCs rules:

> 1. Keep correspondence professional; the purpose of the listserve is to

foster communication and collegiality. No personal attacks on listserve

members will be tolerated.

> 2. Always sign your e-mails with your first and last name.

> 3. The listserve is not secure; your e-mail could end up anywhere.

However, it is against the rules of the listserve to copy, print, forward,

or otherwise distribute correspondence written by another member without his

or her consent, unless all personal identifiers have been removed.

>

[Guest guest]

I notice bad dreams as a sign of sickness or symptom flare-up sometimes

and even for others that happens as their only strep symptom - the bad

dreams - but OCD in dreams has never been mentioned here - you're

right - can they ever be free - that stinks!!!!

Quoting kidsnpets <sdonovan1@...>:

> Has anyone's child had OCD in their dreams? My dd is 5, one of her

> worries is her toys going down the drain in the bathtub, or losing

> her toys down the side of her bed next to the wall. She woke up

> early this morning (thankfully went back to sleep!) and told me her

> dream. She said she was standing on a dock by a lake and was holding

> small toys. She dropped some on the lake and tried to get them, but

> couldnt. Is this her OCD showing up in her dreams???!!! Cant it

> leave her alone when she is sleeping??!

> Sharon

>

>

[Guest guest]

She does have a cough, so a cold may be coming on. Interesting. I will keep an

eye on her. Hopefully it doesnt mean a symptom flare up, she is doing very well

with having just started preschool.

Sharon

Re: dreams

I notice bad dreams as a sign of sickness or symptom flare-up sometimes

and even for others that happens as their only strep symptom - the bad

dreams - but OCD in dreams has never been mentioned here - you're

right - can they ever be free - that stinks!!!!

Quoting kidsnpets <sdonovan1@...>:

> Has anyone's child had OCD in their dreams? My dd is 5, one of her

> worries is her toys going down the drain in the bathtub, or losing

> her toys down the side of her bed next to the wall. She woke up

> early this morning (thankfully went back to sleep!) and told me her

> dream. She said she was standing on a dock by a lake and was holding

> small toys. She dropped some on the lake and tried to get them, but

> couldnt. Is this her OCD showing up in her dreams???!!! Cant it

> leave her alone when she is sleeping??!

> Sharon

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sharon,

OMG yes! I have ocd myself and always dream in that manner!!!

My kids do also, but my dreams are like that almost every night. Funny! I

don't think there is anything you can do about it though. (sigh!)

Hugs

Judy

[Guest guest]

This is the first time she has ever told me of a dream like this. She just

recently has started to remember dreams, or is now just able to recall enough to

tell me about them. I feel bad that she is feeling this stress even while

sleeping! Her symptoms have been pretty good during the day, so that is good, I

guess. I think the dream wore her out, she slept til 10:00 this morning!! I

dont think she has ever done that in her whole life!

Sharon

Re: dreams

Sharon,

OMG yes! I have ocd myself and always dream in that manner!!!

My kids do also, but my dreams are like that almost every night. Funny! I

don't think there is anything you can do about it though. (sigh!)

Hugs

Judy

[Guest guest]

My dd, 11 y/o, had a little run with nightmares a couple of weeks

ago. She has had progressive problems with sleep and anxiety/fears.

Her OCD often flares up at bedtime with ordering and making lists and

such. She said that one nightmare was that she had gotten stabbed in

the eye with a needle and stabbed in the arm... said she woke up with

her arm really hurting. A night or two later, said she was in a group

of girls and one girl was going to stab her, so she had to stab her

first, and she did. I know this is OCD because K. is a very sweet,

quiet, obedient child normally. There is no violence or upset at

school or anywhere else in her life. This stuff is out of the blue (or

out of OCD, rather).

Therapist said to heal the bad dream like the Indian tradition

does. If it was a 'monster' in the dream, when awake, heal the dream

by staring the so-said monster in the eyes. Or if stabbed, do

something healing and caring, like pretend to rub love on the wound or

medicine, etc. A dreamcatcher works like this, I'm guessing.

Have a great day,

>

> Has anyone's child had OCD in their dreams? My dd is 5, one of her

worries is her toys going down the drain in the bathtub, or losing her

toys down the side of her bed next to the wall. She woke up early

this morning (thankfully went back to sleep!) and told me her dream.

She said she was standing on a dock by a lake and was holding small

toys. She dropped some on the lake and tried to get them, but

couldnt. Is this her OCD showing up in her dreams???!!! Cant it

leave her alone when she is sleeping??!

> Sharon

>

>

[Guest guest]

My son tends to sleep-walk to wherever I am and talk incoherantly in

a very upset manor. I never wake him. I just tell him very calmly

in an almost off handed manor, " Oh I know, I already took care of

that. Let's get you back to bed OK? " . Then I hug him and take him

back to bed. He doesn't remember this the next day and I rarely

mention it anymore. I have noticed that this starts up again when

he is starting to have a tough time with anxiety during the day.

>

> This is the first time she has ever told me of a dream like this.

She just recently has started to remember dreams, or is now just

able to recall enough to tell me about them. I feel bad that she is

feeling this stress even while sleeping! Her symptoms have been

pretty good during the day, so that is good, I guess. I think the

dream wore her out, she slept til 10:00 this morning!! I dont think

she has ever done that in her whole life!

> Sharon

> Re: dreams

>

>

> Sharon,

> OMG yes! I have ocd myself and always dream in that manner!!!

> My kids do also, but my dreams are like that almost every night.

Funny! I don't think there is anything you can do about it though.

(sigh!)

> Hugs

> Judy

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My son tends to sleep-walk to wherever I am and talk incoherantly in

a very upset manor. I never wake him. I just tell him very calmly

in an almost off handed manor, " Oh I know, I already took care of

that. Let's get you back to bed OK? " . Then I hug him and take him

back to bed. He doesn't remember this the next day and I rarely

mention it anymore. I have noticed that this starts up again when

he is starting to have a tough time with anxiety during the day.

>

> This is the first time she has ever told me of a dream like this.

She just recently has started to remember dreams, or is now just

able to recall enough to tell me about them. I feel bad that she is

feeling this stress even while sleeping! Her symptoms have been

pretty good during the day, so that is good, I guess. I think the

dream wore her out, she slept til 10:00 this morning!! I dont think

she has ever done that in her whole life!

> Sharon

> Re: dreams

>

>

> Sharon,

> OMG yes! I have ocd myself and always dream in that manner!!!

> My kids do also, but my dreams are like that almost every night.

Funny! I don't think there is anything you can do about it though.

(sigh!)

> Hugs

> Judy

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

oh the poor thing - so sad that even her sleep is ruined by OCD so

young! - it stinks!!!!!!!!

Quoting kidsnpets <sdonovan1@...>:

> This is the first time she has ever told me of a dream like this.

> She just recently has started to remember dreams, or is now just able

> to recall enough to tell me about them. I feel bad that she is

> feeling this stress even while sleeping! Her symptoms have been

> pretty good during the day, so that is good, I guess. I think the

> dream wore her out, she slept til 10:00 this morning!! I dont think

> she has ever done that in her whole life!

> Sharon

> Re: dreams

>

>

> Sharon,

> OMG yes! I have ocd myself and always dream in that manner!!!

> My kids do also, but my dreams are like that almost every night.

> Funny! I don't think there is anything you can do about it though.

> (sigh!)

> Hugs

> Judy

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

oh the poor thing - so sad that even her sleep is ruined by OCD so

young! - it stinks!!!!!!!!

Quoting kidsnpets <sdonovan1@...>:

> This is the first time she has ever told me of a dream like this.

> She just recently has started to remember dreams, or is now just able

> to recall enough to tell me about them. I feel bad that she is

> feeling this stress even while sleeping! Her symptoms have been

> pretty good during the day, so that is good, I guess. I think the

> dream wore her out, she slept til 10:00 this morning!! I dont think

> she has ever done that in her whole life!

> Sharon

> Re: dreams

>

>

> Sharon,

> OMG yes! I have ocd myself and always dream in that manner!!!

> My kids do also, but my dreams are like that almost every night.

> Funny! I don't think there is anything you can do about it though.

> (sigh!)

> Hugs

> Judy

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

hope she stays well - how's the pre-school??

Eileen

Quoting kidsnpets <sdonovan1@...>:

> She does have a cough, so a cold may be coming on. Interesting. I

> will keep an eye on her. Hopefully it doesnt mean a symptom flare

> up, she is doing very well with having just started preschool.

> Sharon

> Re: dreams

>

>

> I notice bad dreams as a sign of sickness or symptom flare-up sometimes

> and even for others that happens as their only strep symptom - the bad

> dreams - but OCD in dreams has never been mentioned here - you're

> right - can they ever be free - that stinks!!!!

>

> Quoting kidsnpets <sdonovan1@...>:

>

> > Has anyone's child had OCD in their dreams? My dd is 5, one of her

> > worries is her toys going down the drain in the bathtub, or losing

> > her toys down the side of her bed next to the wall. She woke up

> > early this morning (thankfully went back to sleep!) and told me her

> > dream. She said she was standing on a dock by a lake and was holding

> > small toys. She dropped some on the lake and tried to get them, but

> > couldnt. Is this her OCD showing up in her dreams???!!! Cant it

> > leave her alone when she is sleeping??!

> > Sharon

> >

> >