Re: Warning- do not try this without professional help, or healthy supply of meds

August 8, 2006

Thanks for the rant. This has been one of my main concerns. It seems

this may be the case in Chicago as well. It looks like if I do this

I will need to plan on repeat trips south of the border.

Thanks again,

JGK

>

> Dear All,

>

> I have spent each moment since being banded on7/20/06

demonstrating

> to my family how wonderful it is, what a great step it was for me,

> and so on, remaining POSITIVE POSITIVE and even more POSITIVE.

>

> Now I need to scream and whine for a minute. I have spent an

untold

> number of hours since returning to the states trying to find a

> surgeon who would provide my follow up care and fills. Although I

> had confirmed in advance one particular surgeon, less than 2 hours

> away, who would provide the care, I have now been told that they

> will only see me AFTER I pay a $2000 assessment fee, and that that

> doesnt guarantee that they will actually do the fills for me.

>

> I have called 27 TWENTY SEVEN providers in Virginia,

> land, DC, and Pennsylvania. The answer is a resounding " If we

> didnt place the band, we wont do the follow up fills " A few of the

> practices DID offer to enroll me in the " programs " of support

groups

> and so forth, averaging anywhere between 500 and 1000 dollars, but

> confirmed that even if I did that, I could still not have fills

done

> by their doctors.

>

> Bless her heart, one nurse coordinator did finally agree with me

> that since the intent of the lapband is to serve as a restrictive

> device, without being actually ABLE to use the band in that way

> would be pretty much like sending me to their support groups with

a

> tattoo'd " eat to here " line on my stomach, and she suggested that

I

> had just " wasted my money going to Mexico, because they have their

> own competitive reduced rates- only $18 thousand for the surgeon,

> plus of course the fees for the use of the OR, anesthesia, labs,

> xrays, etc. She thought the total would be somewhere in the $30

> thousand range, and wasnt that worth having care done here in the

> States?

>

> NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

>

> I am so disheartened. I am disgusted with the medical profession.

I

> want to write letters to the editor, or picket doctors offices, or

> SOMETHING. If I had a colostomy done in one state, I am PRETTY

> damn sure that I could find a surgeon to follow me in another. If

I

> was on vacation and needed a root canal begun, I know that my

> dentist would be more than happy to take my money to finish the

work

> and put in a crown when I got home.

>

> Sorry- I just needed to vent, and to someone other than my spouse.

I

> really dont need the " I told you so " right now.

>

> P

>

August 8, 2006

// I have called 27 TWENTY SEVEN providers in Virginia,

land, DC, and Pennsylvania. //

I am so sorry to hear about your trouble. Unfortuantley this

happens all the time. There was nothing you could do to prevent

it. In fact, you were ahead of the game by booking a date prior to

banding. I really hate it when people do the right thing and get

cheated in the end. Did you try all the Dr's on our list?

These are 2 I posted before that I found on another site.

If these 2 turn you away please let me know so I can remove them

from our list or Dr's.

**1st option - this was part of a post online

Dr. Brinkley in Frederick - Northern Virginia

(301) 668-2800.

She is also banded (in MX).

$200 a fill

she has a great open personality. She will take the time to talk

with you and works with you on the fill amount.

**2nd option

www.metrobariatrics.com

$200 per fill

Dr. E. Roll

Dr. ph E. Chebli

Dr. Amir H. Moazzez

Fair Oaks Professional Bldg.

3650 ph Siewick Dr. #309

Fairfax, VA 22033

703.620.3211 Phone

703.620.3215 Fax

Hope this helps.

7/18/05

280/180/140

August 8, 2006

Gosh , Man I feel for ya. I know Dana lives in land. You might ask her where she get her fills. For that kind of money---I'd be flying to San Diego to see the most wonderful Dr. A 's Team of specialists. Also you might try the smartbandsters group. Here's their link: SmartBandsters/ They have all kinds of things going on up there. Hope this helps you. I know how it is to have a hubby breathing down your neck all the time. yuck!!!! I too have been so positive in front of him and will always be even if I was about to die. He'd never know. ha/ha He is really a wonderful man, but if he knew that I had surgery in Mexico. He would have had a hessy fit I'm sure!!!!! Anyway he's real happy so far. I have had just the best attitude

since returning from surgery and all is just fine. Remember I was the one that had to sneak out of the house in the middle of the nite--and just do it for me---HAVEN"T REGRETED IT FOR ONE MOMENT and he hasn't either--He gets much more attention now than before--so all is well. Sure hope you can find some a good fill place and that you continue with your happy positive self. Good Luck Deborrbefore <susan@...> wrote: Dear All,I have spent each moment since being banded on7/20/06 demonstrating to my family how wonderful it is, what a great step it was for me, and so on, remaining POSITIVE POSITIVE and even more POSITIVE.Now I need to scream and whine for a minute. I have spent an untold number of hours since returning to the states trying to find a surgeon who would provide my follow up care and fills. Although I had confirmed in advance one particular surgeon, less than 2 hours away, who would provide the care, I have now been told that they will only see me AFTER I pay a $2000 assessment fee, and that that doesnt guarantee that they will actually do the fills for me.I have called 27 TWENTY SEVEN providers in Virginia, land, DC, and Pennsylvania. The answer is a resounding "If we didnt place the band, we wont do the follow up fills" A few of the practices DID offer to enroll me in the "programs" of support

groups and so forth, averaging anywhere between 500 and 1000 dollars, but confirmed that even if I did that, I could still not have fills done by their doctors. Bless her heart, one nurse coordinator did finally agree with me that since the intent of the lapband is to serve as a restrictive device, without being actually ABLE to use the band in that way would be pretty much like sending me to their support groups with a tattoo'd "eat to here" line on my stomach, and she suggested that I had just "wasted my money going to Mexico, because they have their own competitive reduced rates- only $18 thousand for the surgeon, plus of course the fees for the use of the OR, anesthesia, labs, xrays, etc. She thought the total would be somewhere in the $30 thousand range, and wasnt that worth having care done here in the States?NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NOI am so disheartened. I am disgusted with the

medical profession. I want to write letters to the editor, or picket doctors offices, or SOMETHING. If I had a colostomy done in one state, I am PRETTY damn sure that I could find a surgeon to follow me in another. If I was on vacation and needed a root canal begun, I know that my dentist would be more than happy to take my money to finish the work and put in a crown when I got home.Sorry- I just needed to vent, and to someone other than my spouse. I really dont need the "I told you so" right now. P

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August 8, 2006

Gosh , Man I feel for ya. I know Dana lives in land. You might ask her where she get her fills. For that kind of money---I'd be flying to San Diego to see the most wonderful Dr. A 's Team of specialists. Also you might try the smartbandsters group. Here's their link: SmartBandsters/ They have all kinds of things going on up there. Hope this helps you. I know how it is to have a hubby breathing down your neck all the time. yuck!!!! I too have been so positive in front of him and will always be even if I was about to die. He'd never know. ha/ha He is really a wonderful man, but if he knew that I had surgery in Mexico. He would have had a hessy fit I'm sure!!!!! Anyway he's real happy so far. I have had just the best attitude

since returning from surgery and all is just fine. Remember I was the one that had to sneak out of the house in the middle of the nite--and just do it for me---HAVEN"T REGRETED IT FOR ONE MOMENT and he hasn't either--He gets much more attention now than before--so all is well. Sure hope you can find some a good fill place and that you continue with your happy positive self. Deborrbefore <susan@...> wrote: Dear

All,I have spent each moment since being banded on7/20/06 demonstrating to my family how wonderful it is, what a great step it was for me, and so on, remaining POSITIVE POSITIVE and even more POSITIVE.Now I need to scream and whine for a minute. I have spent an untold number of hours since returning to the states trying to find a surgeon who would provide my follow up care and fills. Although I had confirmed in advance one particular surgeon, less than 2 hours away, who would provide the care, I have now been told that they will only see me AFTER I pay a $2000 assessment fee, and that that doesnt guarantee that they will actually do the fills for me.I have called 27 TWENTY SEVEN providers in Virginia, land, DC, and Pennsylvania. The answer is a resounding "If we didnt place the band, we wont do the follow up fills" A few of the practices DID offer to enroll me in the "programs" of support groups

and so forth, averaging anywhere between 500 and 1000 dollars, but confirmed that even if I did that, I could still not have fills done by their doctors. Bless her heart, one nurse coordinator did finally agree with me that since the intent of the lapband is to serve as a restrictive device, without being actually ABLE to use the band in that way would be pretty much like sending me to their support groups with a tattoo'd "eat to here" line on my stomach, and she suggested that I had just "wasted my money going to Mexico, because they have their own competitive reduced rates- only $18 thousand for the surgeon, plus of course the fees for the use of the OR, anesthesia, labs, xrays, etc. She thought the total would be somewhere in the $30 thousand range, and wasnt that worth having care done here in the States?NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NOI am so disheartened. I am disgusted with the medical

profession. I want to write letters to the editor, or picket doctors offices, or SOMETHING. If I had a colostomy done in one state, I am PRETTY damn sure that I could find a surgeon to follow me in another. If I was on vacation and needed a root canal begun, I know that my dentist would be more than happy to take my money to finish the work and put in a crown when I got home.Sorry- I just needed to vent, and to someone other than my spouse. I really dont need the "I told you so" right now. P

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August 8, 2006

Dear ,

Thanks- Metrobariatrics was one that gave me a definitive no

already, but I will try Dr Brinkley now- thanks so much, and thanks

for listening to my ranting and raving.

Sadly, or not so sadly, depending on what sort of a mood you may be

in, it was in the midst of all these calls that I opened a letter

from the Commonwealth of VA DMV stating that they could not renew my

drivers license because my name, social security number, and date of

birth do not match with SSA records. I called the DMV immediately,

with both my drivers license, and my ss card in front of me, and

spent 45 minutes arguing with the moron at the DMV that the fact

that the DMV lists names by Last, first middle and the SSA lists

them by first middle last, does NOT mean that my name is wrong.

Then I called SSA, who have no idea how the DMV gets access to their

incorrect information anyway, who confirmed that both of these

documents do in fact have the identical information on them, and

that they cannot correct what is not incorrect. So I called the DMV

back, and they said they cant go by what is on my SS card, that SSA

needs to provide me with a written statement that the misinformation

has been corrected. Which, of course, the SSA cannot/will not do,

because it is not incorrect.

Ordinarly, I am as big a fan of beaurocratic BS stories to share

around the water cooler as anyone else. Heck, I work for the county

government- I SWIM through rhetoric and BS on a daily basis.

Unfortunately, when I woke up this morning I had about 1/3 of a

frayed nerve left. And that's gone now, too.

I am sitting on my deck with my laptop, partly swearing to myself,

partly crying, and partly wondering if I am going to be able to pull

myself back together SOON. ( Do you remember the old spoof movie

Airplane, when the air traffic controller walks around muttering " I

picked a hell of a day to stop smoking? " That's me.

P.

>

> // I have called 27 TWENTY SEVEN providers in Virginia,

> land, DC, and Pennsylvania. //

> I am so sorry to hear about your trouble. Unfortuantley this

> happens all the time. There was nothing you could do to prevent

> it. In fact, you were ahead of the game by booking a date prior

to

> banding. I really hate it when people do the right thing and get

> cheated in the end. Did you try all the Dr's on our list?

>

> These are 2 I posted before that I found on another site.

> If these 2 turn you away please let me know so I can remove them

> from our list or Dr's.

>

> **1st option - this was part of a post online

>

> Dr. Brinkley in Frederick - Northern Virginia

> (301) 668-2800.

> She is also banded (in MX).

> $200 a fill

> she has a great open personality. She will take the time to talk

> with you and works with you on the fill amount.

>

> **2nd option

>

> www.metrobariatrics.com

> $200 per fill

> Dr. E. Roll

> Dr. ph E. Chebli

> Dr. Amir H. Moazzez

> Fair Oaks Professional Bldg.

> 3650 ph Siewick Dr. #309

> Fairfax, VA 22033

> 703.620.3211 Phone

> 703.620.3215 Fax

>

> Hope this helps.

>

> 7/18/05

> 280/180/140

>

August 8, 2006

can i grt the fills in mexico?

carianne felix

Re: Warning- do not try this without professional help, or healthy supply of meds

Gosh ,

Man I feel for ya. I know Dana lives in land. You might ask her where she

get her fills. For that kind of money---I'd be flying to San Diego to see the most

wonderful Dr. A 's Team of specialists. Also you might try the smartbandsters

group. Here's their link: SmartBandsters/

They have all kinds of things going on up there.

Hope this helps you. I know how it is to have a hubby breathing down your neck

all the time. yuck!!!! I too have been so positive in front of him and will always be

even if I was about to die. He'd never know. ha/ha He is really a wonderful man,

but if he knew that I had surgery in Mexico. He would have had a hessy fit I'm

sure!!!!! Anyway he's real happy so far. I have had just the best attitude since

returning from surgery and all is just fine. Remember I was the one that had to

sneak out of the house in the middle of the nite--and just do it for me---HAVEN"T

REGRETED IT FOR ONE MOMENT and he hasn't either--He gets much more

attention now than before--so all is well. Sure hope you can find some a good

fill place and that you continue with your happy positive self.

Good Luck

Deb

orrbefore <susan@...> wrote:

Dear All,

I have spent each moment since being banded on7/20/06 demonstrating

to my family how wonderful it is, what a great step it was for me,

and so on, remaining POSITIVE POSITIVE and even more POSITIVE.

Now I need to scream and whine for a minute. I have spent an untold

number of hours since returning to the states trying to find a

surgeon who would provide my follow up care and fills. Although I

had confirmed in advance one particular surgeon, less than 2 hours

away, who would provide the care, I have now been told that they

will only see me AFTER I pay a $2000 assessment fee, and that that

doesnt guarantee that they will actually do the fills for me.

I have called 27 TWENTY SEVEN providers in Virginia,

land, DC, and Pennsylvania. The answer is a resounding "If we

didnt place the band, we wont do the follow up fills" A few of the

practices DID offer to enroll me in the "programs" of support groups

and so forth, averaging anywhere between 500 and 1000 dollars, but

confirmed that even if I did that, I could still not have fills done

by their doctors.

Bless her heart, one nurse coordinator did finally agree with me

that since the intent of the lapband is to serve as a restrictive

device, without being actually ABLE to use the band in that way

would be pretty much like sending me to their support groups with a

tattoo'd "eat to here" line on my stomach, and she suggested that I

had just "wasted my money going to Mexico, because they have their

own competitive reduced rates- only $18 thousand for the surgeon,

plus of course the fees for the use of the OR, anesthesia, labs,

xrays, etc. She thought the total would be somewhere in the $30

thousand range, and wasnt that worth having care done here in the

States?

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

I am so disheartened. I am disgusted with the medical profession. I

want to write letters to the editor, or picket doctors offices, or

SOMETHING. If I had a colostomy done in one state, I am PRETTY

damn sure that I could find a surgeon to follow me in another. If I

was on vacation and needed a root canal begun, I know that my

dentist would be more than happy to take my money to finish the work

and put in a crown when I got home.

Sorry- I just needed to vent, and to someone other than my spouse. I

really dont need the "I told you so" right now.

P

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susan there a fill doctor in bronxsville ny that will do fills from mexico if you need # let me know jessieorrbefore <susan@...> wrote: Dear All,I have spent each moment since being banded on7/20/06 demonstrating to my family how wonderful it is, what a great step it was for me, and so on, remaining POSITIVE POSITIVE and even more POSITIVE.Now I need to scream and whine for a minute. I have spent an untold number of hours since returning to the states trying

to find a surgeon who would provide my follow up care and fills. Although I had confirmed in advance one particular surgeon, less than 2 hours away, who would provide the care, I have now been told that they will only see me AFTER I pay a $2000 assessment fee, and that that doesnt guarantee that they will actually do the fills for me.I have called 27 TWENTY SEVEN providers in Virginia, land, DC, and Pennsylvania. The answer is a resounding "If we didnt place the band, we wont do the follow up fills" A few of the practices DID offer to enroll me in the "programs" of support groups and so forth, averaging anywhere between 500 and 1000 dollars, but confirmed that even if I did that, I could still not have fills done by their doctors. Bless her heart, one nurse coordinator did finally agree with me that since the intent of the lapband is to serve as a restrictive device, without being actually ABLE to use

the band in that way would be pretty much like sending me to their support groups with a tattoo'd "eat to here" line on my stomach, and she suggested that I had just "wasted my money going to Mexico, because they have their own competitive reduced rates- only $18 thousand for the surgeon, plus of course the fees for the use of the OR, anesthesia, labs, xrays, etc. She thought the total would be somewhere in the $30 thousand range, and wasnt that worth having care done here in the States?NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NOI am so disheartened. I am disgusted with the medical profession. I want to write letters to the editor, or picket doctors offices, or SOMETHING. If I had a colostomy done in one state, I am PRETTY damn sure that I could find a surgeon to follow me in another. If I was on vacation and needed a root canal begun, I know that my dentist would be more than happy to take my money to finish the

work and put in a crown when I got home.Sorry- I just needed to vent, and to someone other than my spouse. I really dont need the "I told you so" right now. P

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August 8, 2006

Hi , Dana here. If you get really desparate...you could drive to land. I see Dr. Brinkley in Frederick, Md. She also had her band done in Mexico, and will see local and Mexico patients! During my first fill back in April, I meet another nurse from Virginia, she drove to Frederick because she couldn't locate anyone in Virginia to give her fills, but she was going to keep trying. She doesn't come on the board (as far as I know) So I don't know if she found one or not.

I think Dr.Brinkley has privlages at the near by hospital, but not for sure. I am taking my daughter for her 1st fill on Aug 30th and will ask if she can arrange fluro at the hospital. She does her fills without fluro at her office. She is an Internal Medicine Dr. She only does fills on the 2nd and last Wednesdays of each month.

I also plan on calling a few places in Baltimore to see if anyone will do fills for us, with or without fluro. I'll let you know what I find out......Take care....Dana

-------------- Original message -------------- From: jessie harding <hotontop42@...>

susan there a fill doctor in bronxsville ny that will do fills from mexico if you need # let me know

jessieorrbefore <susanparkerstudios> wrote:

Dear All,I have spent each moment since being banded on7/20/06 demonstrating to my family how wonderful it is, what a great step it was for me, and so on, remaining POSITIVE POSITIVE and even more POSITIVE.Now I need to scream and whine for a minute. I have spent an untold number of hours since returning to the states trying to find a surgeon who would provide my follow up care and fills. Although I had confirmed in advance one particular surgeon, less than 2 hours away, who would provide the care, I have now been told that they will only see me AFTER I pay a $2000 assessment fee, and that that doesnt guarantee that they will actually do the fills for me.I have called 27 TWENTY SEVEN providers in Virginia, land, DC, and Pennsylvania. The answer is a resounding "If we didnt place the band, we wont do the follow up fills" A few of the practices DID offer to enroll me in the "programs" of support groups a

nd so forth, averaging anywhere between 500 and 1000 dollars, but confirmed that even if I did that, I could still not have fills done by their doctors. Bless her heart, one nurse coordinator did finally agree with me that since the intent of the lapband is to serve as a restrictive device, without being actually ABLE to use the band in that way would be pretty much like sending me to their support groups with a tattoo'd "eat to here" line on my stomach, and she suggested that I had just "wasted my money going to Mexico, because they have their own competitive reduced rates- only $18 thousand for the surgeon, plus of course the fees for the use of the OR, anesthesia, labs, xrays, etc. She thought the total would be somewhere in the $30 thousand range, and wasnt that worth having care done here in the States?NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NOI am so disheartened. I am disgusted with the medical profession. I w

ant to write letters to the editor, or picket doctors offices, or SOMETHING. If I had a colostomy done in one state, I am PRETTY damn sure that I could find a surgeon to follow me in another. If I was on vacation and needed a root canal begun, I know that my dentist would be more than happy to take my money to finish the work and put in a crown when I got home.Sorry- I just needed to vent, and to someone other than my spouse. I really dont need the "I told you so" right now. P

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August 8, 2006

……BREATH………..now

relax. Sorry you are having a bad day, but I love the way you write. It

expresses my feelings exactly! I had a bad day too, so I am taking my own

advice….breath in….breath out…. Tomorrow WILL be better.

Mills

DOB 3/1/05

280/168/160

http://www.tracyslapband.com

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