Re: ADA has left us LPs in more trouble.

[Guest guest]

That's what happens when you try to mandate specific standards for an

obviously NON-standardized group (People with Disabilities [PWD's])

TG

Pete wrote:

> ADA has left HP bathroom stalls with only the new higher toilets difficult to

use for us shorter LPs. We loose again.

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[Guest guest]

Hi all,

I guess I don't see the issue with higher toilets, I am only 3'3, but I don't

need to use an ADA toilet, I just go in a regular stall if I'm without my

scooter.  Now, in the case I do happen to use my scooter, I may use the ADA

toilet and just go from scooter to toilet, no issue at all, otherwise I park the

scooter and walk into the regular stall, I just take the scooter key with me. 

I

also take a folding turtle stool (folds flat, very light)with me and keep it in

the NY conference drawstring backpack, it's a great stool and nice to use

instead of trying to crawl up a chair when going out or a little boost when

trying to use the toilet.  I always keep it in my car, you never know when you

may need it!

I guess I don't see why " we lose " in this situation?  I also agree with TG, ADA

has a tough job of covering hundreds or maybe even thousands of different

disabilities, I can't knock something that overall is working in my favor.

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From: Twirly Girly <TwirlyGirly1@...>

dwarfism

Sent: Sat, April 16, 2011 11:26:22 AM

Subject: Re: ADA has left us LPs in more trouble.

 

That's what happens when you try to mandate specific standards for an

obviously NON-standardized group (People with Disabilities [PWD's])

TG

Pete wrote:

> ADA has left HP bathroom stalls with only the new higher toilets difficult to

>use for us shorter LPs. We loose again.

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[Guest guest]

Maybe I should explain.

Presently I'm in a rehab for a stroke. My right arm was paralyzed. I used a

power chair or crutches. When I was sent to the rehab I was first put in a newly

renovated room. It was beautiful. Even wide screen TVs. With new furniture and

electric bed too. It looked like a nice bedroom not a prison. The renovation

included the new ADA toilets. So I got shipped to the old rooms with standard

toilets. Being I can't use crutches... yet, I even need help to get on the

throne which is almost impossible with the higher toilets. So now (even before

the stroke) anywhere I encounter the new ADA styles it's just plain difficult.

My thought is like parking spaces, have set a side for LPs and children. BTW -

I'm not going to hold my breath.

Now, if using an ADA fixture, as a male, I aim by calculating the trajectory.

Enjoy,

Pete H.

Sent from my iPhone

[Guest guest]

Being as how the ADA covers disabilities nad how to cover most of the people...

somewhere someoen will lose out. Being in a wheelchair and a parapelegic as well

as a dwarf I prefere the ADA toilets of no less than 17 inches in height.. or

better yet the new 19 inch high toilets. I can directly transfere from the chair

into them. A Standard toilet I have to transfere down which is no big deal.. but

to get back into my chair I have to transfere up.... ever try that? Trust me you

wont like it and its not easy... by a long shot.

Chass

ADA has left us LPs in more trouble.

ADA has left HP bathroom stalls with only the new higher toilets difficult to

use for us shorter LPs. We loose again.