Guest guest Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 When I reply (as I'm doing now) my reply is sent to both the person who authored the post and the group (i.e. Twirly Girly <Twirly Girly1@...>; dwarfism ). I've not had an issue except when I don't pay attention and unintenionally click on either " sender " when I want to post to the group or " all " when I want to post privately to the sender. (((hugs))) ~Nan~ ________________________________ From: Twirly Girly <TwirlyGirly1@...> dwarfism Sent: Mon, April 11, 2011 7:38:07 PM Subject: Technical issue  I'm curious as to why the posts to the dwarfism group don't have the " Reply To dwarfism " in the header? I belong to a whole bunch of groups, and this is the only group that doesn't include the " Reply To " field in the header. Hence, when one clicks on " Reply " to respond to a message, only the email address of the individual who *wrote* the post is put in the address field of the reply. So, has to remove THAT email address, and instead replace it with the dwarfism addy. This can get very confusing, especially if a member replies to a group post *privately* to a member. Because the subject line will say , one can mistakingly think the message was sent to *the group,* not as a private message to an individual member. That makes it far too easy to accidentally send your reply to that person to the group, instead of to that individual privately..... If I haven't explained this in a way that's clear, just ask and I'll try it again! TG -- Twirly Girly: Champion of the Misquoted and Misunderstood (cape not included) THIS message and any attachments are CONFIDENTIAL and may be privileged. They are intended ONLY for the individual or entity named. Copying or forwarding this message, or the thoughts contained herein, in whole or in part to any other mailbox - without permission of the author - is forbidden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 Nan, When I click " Reply, " it only addresses the post to the person who wrote the post I'm responding to. If I click " Reply all, " it addresses the post to the person who wrote the post I'm responding to *and* the group. When people reply to a group post, it usually isn't necessary to send the reply *twice* to a member (the person they're responding to *and* the group). It gets confusing, at least for *me,* if I get two copies of the same post when someone responds to something I wrote (makes me think is screwing up again and sending out dupes). Or, I could accidentally respond to a reply to one of my posts sent privately and send my response to the entire group (been there, done that). More often, I might send a reply privately when it's intended to go to the group. Of course, all this could be an issue only because of my (rapidly) advancing age ;-) As I said, I'm just curious because of all the groups I belong to, this is the only one that doesn't have the " Reply to " in the header. So, for the dwarfism group, the method to reply is the reverse of every other group of which I'm a member. For the others, if I click " Reply " the post is sent ONLY to the group, but if for some reason I want the person to whom I'm responding to get a second copy of the message in their inbox, I have to click " Reply to. " TG Nan Rodgers wrote: > When I reply (as I'm doing now) my reply is sent to both the person > who authored the post and the group (i.e. Twirly Girly <Twirly > Girly1@...>; dwarfism > <mailto:dwarfism >). I've not had an issue except when > I don't pay attention and unintenionally click on either " sender " when > I want to post to the group or " all " when I want to post privately to > the sender. > (((hugs))) > ~Nan~ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Twirly Girly <TwirlyGirly1@...> > *To:* dwarfism > *Sent:* Mon, April 11, 2011 7:38:07 PM > *Subject:* Technical issue > > > > I'm curious as to why the posts to the dwarfism group don't have the > " Reply To dwarfism > <mailto:dwarfism%40> " in the header? I belong to a whole > bunch of groups, and this is the only group that doesn't include > the " Reply To " field in the header. Hence, when one clicks on " Reply " to > respond to a message, only the email address of the individual who > *wrote* the post is put in the address field of the reply. So, has to > remove THAT email address, and instead replace it with the > dwarfism <mailto:dwarfism%40> addy. > > This can get very confusing, especially if a member replies to a group > post *privately* to a member. Because the subject line will say > , one can mistakingly think the message was sent to *the > group,* not as a private message to an individual member. That makes it > far too easy to accidentally send your reply to that person to the > group, instead of to that individual privately..... > > If I haven't explained this in a way that's clear, just ask and I'll try > it again! > > TG > > -- > Twirly Girly: Champion of the Misquoted and Misunderstood (cape not > included) > > THIS message and any attachments are CONFIDENTIAL and may be privileged. > They are intended ONLY for the individual or entity named. > Copying or forwarding this message, or the thoughts contained herein, > in whole or in part to any other mailbox - without permission of the > author - is forbidden. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 I have the same problem. The other week, I wrote something that was intended for the whole group and I send it to just one person by mistake. In other , if I hit " reply " in Thunderbird, it will put the groups address - but this one does a reply to the sender for some reason. Maybe it's just a Thunderbird issue? I have to go down to the bottom of the message and hit " reply to group " instead - or manually type in the email address... or do a reply-all and then delete the other email address... but it's not just you, TG! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 I don't think it's an issue with T-bird (I use T-bird as well), because T-bird doesn't " supply " the headers. That comes from the source sending the message. It must have something to do with the way the group is set up. If it were a T-bird issue, then it would be the same thing with ALL the groups I'm subscribed to, and it's not. It's only THIS group. TG Luk wrote: > I have the same problem. The other week, I wrote something that was > intended for the whole group and I send it to just one person by > mistake. In other , if I hit " reply " in Thunderbird, it will > put the groups address - but this one does a reply to the sender > for some reason. Maybe it's just a Thunderbird issue? I have to go down > to the bottom of the message and hit " reply to group " instead - or > manually type in the email address... or do a reply-all and then delete > the other email address... but it's not just you, TG! > > > ------------------------------------ > > === > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 The moderators of the group may be able to confirm this, but I believe the reason this group is set to reply to the individual rather than to the group is to slow down the flame wars that happened in the past over hot button topics. If an angry reply goes by default to one person than to the list, then it is less likely to turn into a massive argument which chases people away from the group... I've got Gmail set to " Reply All " by default so I don't generally run into the problem... Mike On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 6:15 AM, Twirly Girly <TwirlyGirly1@...>wrote: > > > I don't think it's an issue with T-bird (I use T-bird as well), because > T-bird doesn't " supply " the headers. That comes from the source sending > the message. It must have something to do with the way the group is set > up. If it were a T-bird issue, then it would be the same thing with ALL > the groups I'm subscribed to, and it's not. It's only THIS group. > > TG > > > Luk wrote: > > I have the same problem. The other week, I wrote something that was > > intended for the whole group and I send it to just one person by > > mistake. In other , if I hit " reply " in Thunderbird, it will > > put the groups address - but this one does a reply to the sender > > for some reason. Maybe it's just a Thunderbird issue? I have to go down > > to the bottom of the message and hit " reply to group " instead - or > > manually type in the email address... or do a reply-all and then delete > > the other email address... but it's not just you, TG! > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > === > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Mike is right. This group was formed over 12 years ago, and this was the default setting for . I was a moderator (along with Dan Kennedy) from 2002-2004. During that time, when offered a chance to change the settings, we decided not to, because there were a lot of divisive flame wars going on, and we thought it better that you had to intentionally hit " reply all " in the heat of the moment (saved a lot of public embarrassment). Three or four years back the moderators held a vote to see if people wanted to change the settings again, and group voted not to. In reality, Facebook has decimated this group. If you look at the number of posts in 2002 (averaged 600 a month) to this year (average of 70 a month) that's almost a 90% decline. Bill On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Mike Mallinson <mike@...> wrote: > The moderators of the group may be able to confirm this, but I believe the > reason this group is set to reply to the individual rather than to the group > is to slow down the flame wars that happened in the past over hot button > topics. If an angry reply goes by default to one person than to the list, > then it is less likely to turn into a massive argument which chases people > away from the group... > > I've got Gmail set to " Reply All " by default so I don't generally run into > the problem... > > Mike > > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 6:15 AM, Twirly Girly <TwirlyGirly1@...>wrote: > >> >> >> I don't think it's an issue with T-bird (I use T-bird as well), because >> T-bird doesn't " supply " the headers. That comes from the source sending >> the message. It must have something to do with the way the group is set >> up. If it were a T-bird issue, then it would be the same thing with ALL >> the groups I'm subscribed to, and it's not. It's only THIS group. >> >> TG >> >> >> Luk wrote: >> > I have the same problem. The other week, I wrote something that was >> > intended for the whole group and I send it to just one person by >> > mistake. In other , if I hit " reply " in Thunderbird, it will >> > put the groups address - but this one does a reply to the sender >> > for some reason. Maybe it's just a Thunderbird issue? I have to go down >> > to the bottom of the message and hit " reply to group " instead - or >> > manually type in the email address... or do a reply-all and then delete >> > the other email address... but it's not just you, TG! >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------ >> >> > >> > === >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 I personally miss those days when there were flame wars. Those hot discussions between the Bradford brothers, Dan Kennedy, Nick Koontz, etc. were great. It provided a virtual community when we're miles apart from one another. As much as I enjoy Facebook too, I do miss how active this list used to be. I may just start a flame war just to rile up some people and make sure they're still here, alive and kicking. I think all the dwarfism related have gone down in participation after Facebook, though. If you look at the Parents of Little People (POLP), POLP2, Adult Dwarfism, and Women with Dwarfism group, the participation is almost at a slow leaking drip. With this downturn in participation on the , I'm hoping that there is more need for people to connect face-to-face, like at LPA conferences. Shameless plug insert here: We'll be doing a dwarf parenting workshop at the LPA National Conference this summer. It's more of a sharegroup than a teaching workshop. See you all there! -Ellen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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