Please Help

[Guest guest]

It's a tabloid so not regarded with the same integrity as a

broadsheet such as The Guardian, The Times and basically the large

sheet papers. But, these " quality " newspapers are often themselves

very biased and leading and I am often no more happy with their

information or accuracy. So the Express is popular...not quite low

level press iykwim, lots of older suburbian people seem to get it..

but ok. I personally don't read much of one paper inparticular and

neither do I have the faith in the BBC that most seem to have

worldwide, some of their angles are quite shocking (we had to

compare them to other news channels here and quite often they came

off worse for accuracy and information and bias)...we did media

studies/socilolgy and english lang and what all my tutors said

basically was accumulate varied sources to get a clearer picture and

gain best understanding. The press over here largely is a

voicepeice for the government and pro vax, if they feel they can get

some shock news to increase sales then they choose to mention

vaccine problems, but they're not very often.

I haven't seen the article myself but would well beleive there have

been both deaths and side effects from this vaccine in line with

other reports. I think to write that they must feel quite confident

about it also as they face a lot of backlash over it. probably next

week they plan to run a pro vaccine story though! such is the press.

It's pretty logical, how is a vaccine appropriate for such a young

child to last throughout their life, or remotely suitable for a

pregnant lady. Yet our pm is pro vaccine and very stern, medicine

is the answer kind of thing....progress! he came under fire lately

a lot for supporting the other sides old leader (who supported

Pinnochet and started the Faulklands war etc) I have just given up

on the political process here, there's no option or sense anymore.

bw

Cath (uk)

In Vaccinations , " Sue " <mum2mishka@...> wrote:

>

> I've always thought the Express was a bit too pro-VAX for my

liking. I've

> found articles in the Independent, the Guardian and the Telegraph

more

> credible.

>

> On this issue, check out

http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/oct/07100507.html

> - the link to the VAERS is there and so is the link to the death

reports.

>

> This is not gossip. There have been deaths. They are too co-

incidental not

> to be connected to the vaccine. This is a new vaccine with very

little

> history - but it's creating one very rapidly!!

>

> Sue

>

> -- please help

>

> please can someone tell me if this Express Post newspaper in the UK

> (where the article for the cervical vaccine came from ) is a good

> sourse of information? My friend is asking me. Is this like the

Sun

> in the USA? Is is just gossip news or is it a liable news source.

> Thanks.

>

> jen c

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

> Sherill;

I would say contact the better business bureau and AMA

too.Then write a letter to the editor of the paper, contact news

stations etc to spread the word too.Yes there is no cure and this Dr.

needs to be keel hauled or lose his license. I feel for the families

too. Gentle Fibro Hugs

Heidi

> Hi,

>

> I am writing to ask you to read a blog post about a chiropractic

technique

> being billed as the cure for Fibromyalgia, and then if you feel so

moved, to

> help me spread the word. It's inconceivable to me that year after

year this

> chiropractor continues to be allowed to be paid to practice on

people with

> Fibromyalgia, while his patients/victims are becoming bankrupt,

their

> families are falling apart, and their health is no better and in

many cases

> it is worse than it was before they laid their life savings out

for " the

> cure " to Fibromyalgia, a.k.a. " The Whitcomb Method. "

>

> This can be stopped. We can stop it. All it takes is awareness.

While it may

> be obvious to you and I that The Whitcomb Method is a scam, to

others it

> sounds like the cure they've been hoping and praying for. I hope

you will

> help me create the simple awareness it will take to stop this guy,

by any

> method you feel comfortable with. For example, by mentioning this

series to

> your own readers if you have a blog or website, by doing your own

research

> and writing your own blog post or article, and/or by telling

everyone you

> know with Fibromyalgia about it. It would be nice if we could

accomplish

> this before Whitcomb makes enough money off of unsuspecting people

with

> Fibromyalgia to retire comfortably, and does so.

>

> That's all. There's no catch and I'm not trying to sell anything.

I'm just

> asking you to read my overview of what's going on here (link at end

of this

> email) and if you agree with my assessment and want to help to keep

more

> people with Fibromyalgia from being conned out of their precious

money and

> time, to spread the word in any way you're motivated to do so.

>

> Thank you for your time and consideration,

>

> Sherril

>

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>

> Please - help keep any more people with FM from being conned into

bankruptcy

> or worse

> http://theiciexperience.blogspot.com/2008/04/outline-of-series-on-

quackery.html

>

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[Guest guest]

IT IS SAD BECAUSE I KNOW SOME CHIRO. ARE TRULY HELPFUL TO OTHERS, BUT A MASS OF THEM ARE IN IT FOR THE MONEY AND MAKE OUTLANDISH CLAIMS FROM BACK ACHE TO CURING THE COMMON COLD. YES WE HAD SOMEONE ADVERTISE THAT. Sherril <sherrillynn@...> wrote: Hi,I am writing to ask you to read a blog post about a chiropractic technique being billed as the cure for Fibromyalgia, and then if you feel so moved, to help me spread the word. It's inconceivable to me that year after

year this chiropractor continues to be allowed to be paid to practice on people with Fibromyalgia, while his patients/victims are becoming bankrupt, their families are falling apart, and their health is no better and in many cases it is worse than it was before they laid their life savings out for "the cure" to Fibromyalgia, a.k.a. "The Whitcomb Method." This can be stopped. We can stop it. All it takes is awareness. While it may be obvious to you and I that The Whitcomb Method is a scam, to others it sounds like the cure they've been hoping and praying for. I hope you will help me create the simple awareness it will take to stop this guy, by any method you feel comfortable with. For example, by mentioning this series to your own readers if you have a blog or website, by doing your own research and writing your own blog post or article, and/or by telling everyone you

know with Fibromyalgia about it. It would be nice if we could accomplish this before Whitcomb makes enough money off of unsuspecting people with Fibromyalgia to retire comfortably, and does so.That's all. There's no catch and I'm not trying to sell anything. I'm just asking you to read my overview of what's going on here (link at end of this email) and if you agree with my assessment and want to help to keep more people with Fibromyalgia from being conned out of their precious money and time, to spread the word in any way you're motivated to do so.Thank you for your time and consideration,Sherril §»§«·´¯`·.,¸¸,»»»§«·´¯`·.,¸¸,» »»§´¯`·.,¸¸,»»»§´¯`·.,¸¸,»»»§»§«·´¯`·.,¸¸,»»»§«·´¯`·.,¸¸,»»»§Please - help keep any more people with FM from being conned into bankruptcy or worsehttp://theiciexperience.blogspot.com/2008/04/outline-of-series-on-quackery.html:»§«·´¯`·.,¸¸,»»»§«·´¯`·.,¸¸,» »»§»§«·´¯`·.,¸¸,»»»§«·´¯`·.,¸¸,»»»§·´¯`·.,¸¸,»»»§´¯`·.,¸¸,»»»§ GENTLE HUGS, CHRISTINA

~ 777

[Guest guest]

Yes Iodine was used by traditional doctors to stop hyperthyroid situations.

They also use L-Carnatine and Lithium to slow the thyroid down. Your Free's

are in the lower end of the ranges so you are showing more hypo according to

them. Your TSH is useless. It is a pituitary hormone and not an indication

of thyroid status.

You can start iodine at any time. If you don't have a Dr that understands

iodine having him check your thyroid levels more often is pointless.

Monitoring nodules would be about all he could do effectively.

Please Help

> I'm sorry but I hope I can finally clear my mind. I have been doing

> extensive research and I want to start iodine. My lab work: TSH .2,

> Free Thyroxine 1.4, Free T3 289. Benign nodules- slowly growing.

> My concerns are:

>

> Right now, I dont have any symptoms of hyper, actually I can relate

> more to the hypo symptoms. Is iodine beneficial for 'maybe' hyper

> also, much of what I read mentions hypo. I don't want to make it worse.

> I go to my doctor every 6 months, my next appt. is Dec. should I start

> now? or wait until is closer to my appointment? He says that if my TSH

> continues to drop, I will become Hyper. I've been the same for 5

> years. But I do want to get rid of my nodules.

> When on Iodine, how often do we need to get checked?

> I'm also assuming I would have to take all the companion nutrients as

> well? right?

> I just want to make sure iodine will be good considering that I am

> borderline but do have nodules.

> Thank you soooooooooo much.

>

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[Guest guest]

Go to www.breastcancerchoices.org and there is a list of practitioners there.

Steph

Please Help> I'm sorry but I hope I can finally clear my mind. I have been doing> extensive research and I want to start iodine. My lab work: TSH .2,> Free Thyroxine 1.4, Free T3 289. Benign nodules- slowly growing.> My concerns are:>> Right now, I dont have any symptoms of hyper, actually I can relate> more to the hypo symptoms. Is iodine beneficial for 'maybe' hyper> also, much of what I read mentions hypo. I don't want to make it worse.> I go to my doctor every 6 months, my next appt. is Dec. should I start> now? or wait until is closer to my appointment? He says that if my TSH> continues to drop, I will become Hyper. I've been the same for 5> years. But I do want to get rid of my nodules.> When on Iodine, how often do we need to get checked?> I'm also assuming I would have to take all the companion nutrients as> well? right?> I just want to make sure iodine will be good considering that I am> borderline but do have nodules.> Thank you soooooooooo much.>>>> ------------------------------------>>>>>

[Guest guest]

thanks. how about Dr. Arem Ridha? do you know anything on him??

Please Help> I'm sorry but I hope I can finally clear my mind. I have been doing> extensive research and I want to start iodine. My lab work: TSH .2,> Free Thyroxine 1.4, Free T3 289. Benign nodules- slowly growing.> My concerns are:>> Right now, I dont have any symptoms of hyper, actually I can relate> more to the hypo symptoms. Is iodine beneficial for 'maybe' hyper> also, much of what I read mentions hypo. I don't want to make it worse.> I go to my doctor every 6 months, my next appt. is Dec. should I start> now? or wait until is closer to my appointment? He says that if my TSH> continues to drop, I will become Hyper. I've been the same for 5> years. But I do want to get rid of my nodules.> When on Iodine, how often do we need to get checked?> I'm also assuming I would have to take all the companion nutrients as> well? right?> I just want to make sure iodine will be good considering that I am> borderline but do have nodules.> Thank you soooooooooo much.>>>> ------------------------------------>>>>>

[Guest guest]

Never heard of him. Sorry.

Steph

Please Help> I'm sorry but I hope I can finally clear my mind. I have been doing> extensive research and I want to start iodine. My lab work: TSH .2,> Free Thyroxine 1.4, Free T3 289. Benign nodules- slowly growing.> My concerns are:>> Right now, I dont have any symptoms of hyper, actually I can relate> more to the hypo symptoms. Is iodine beneficial for 'maybe' hyper> also, much of what I read mentions hypo. I don't want to make it worse.> I go to my doctor every 6 months, my next appt. is Dec. should I start> now? or wait until is closer to my appointment? He says that if my TSH> continues to drop, I will become Hyper. I've been the same for 5> years. But I do want to get rid of my nodules.> When on Iodine, how often do we need to get checked?> I'm also assuming I would have to take all the companion nutrients as> well? right?> I just want to make sure iodine will be good considering that I am> borderline but do have nodules.> Thank you soooooooooo much.>>>> ------------------------------------>>>>>

[Guest guest]

You could try Dr. Arturo Volpe here in Houston:

Dr. Arturo M. Volpe

DC, CCN, FIAMA

1714 Sunset Boulevard

Houston, Texas 77005

713.529.5669

713.529.5590 fax

www.DoctorVolpe.com

Linn

>

> Thank you so much.! Any ideas on how to find a doctor who understands iodine

in my

area? Houston, TX

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I receive my grains last week and was so excited. I added 2 cups of

> milk to my grains immediately. I did not like the smell at the end of

> the first batch, and poured it down the drain. After reading

> everything, I have tried adding more milk, and not allowing it to go

> the full 24 hours, but it still smells sour. I LOVE kefir that I have

> bought at the store(Lifeway) but I cannot get mine to be even close.

> It has a sour yeasty taste, instead of the tangy/tart taste of the

> store bought stuff. Is this possible to achieve at home, or am I

> wasting my time?

>

> Thanks for any help/advice that you may have.

>

> R.

> Texas

>

Hi, .

I had the same problem at first so I got on the internet to find out

what I was doing wrong. If you put your kefir grains in cold milk

right from the fridge it encourages yeast growth and not lactobacillus

growth. So the milk you put your grains in should be warmed to at

least room temperature. I put the milk I'm going to add my grains to

in a jar and put it in a sink full of warm water and bring the

temperature up to slightly warm. Since I started dong this my kefir

has been delicious with no yeasty flavor at all. I'm not a big fan of

sour so I follow Marilyn's instructions and only leave my kefir grains

in the milk for 24 hours so the kefir is creamy and only slightly

tart. I hope this helps.

[Guest guest]

Does that go for CSY too?  Should the milk be warmed also?  

Re: PLEASE HELP

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> I receive my grains last week and was so excited. I added 2 cups of

> milk to my grains immediately. I did not like the smell at the end of

> the first batch, and poured it down the drain. After reading

> everything, I have tried adding more milk, and not allowing it to go

> the full 24 hours, but it still smells sour. I LOVE kefir that I have

> bought at the store(Lifeway) but I cannot get mine to be even close.

> It has a sour yeasty taste, instead of the tangy/tart taste of the

> store bought stuff. Is this possible to achieve at home, or am I

> wasting my time?

>

> Thanks for any help/advice that you may have.

>

> R.

> Texas

>

Hi, .

I had the same problem at first so I got on the internet to find out

what I was doing wrong. If you put your kefir grains in cold milk

right from the fridge it encourages yeast growth and not lactobacillus

growth. So the milk you put your grains in should be warmed to at

least room temperature. I put the milk

I'm going to add my grains to

in a jar and put it in a sink full of warm water and bring the

temperature up to slightly warm. Since I started dong this my kefir

has been delicious with no yeasty flavor at all. I'm not a big fan of

sour so I follow Marilyn's instructions and only leave my kefir grains

in the milk for 24 hours so the kefir is creamy and only slightly

tart. I hope this helps.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I'd eat half the grains and use a quart of milk over them. You can make

kefir just as mild as you want but first you have to understand how much

milk they require to do that. This takes practice.

Your kefir grains probably could have handled 4 cups of milk right away.

Marilyn

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 6:18 PM, curlyw2kids <curlyw2kids@...> wrote:

> I receive my grains last week and was so excited. I added 2 cups of

> milk to my grains immediately. I did not like the smell at the end of

> the first batch, and poured it down the drain. After reading

> everything, I have tried adding more milk, and not allowing it to go

> the full 24 hours, but it still smells sour. I LOVE kefir that I have

> bought at the store(Lifeway) but I cannot get mine to be even close.

> It has a sour yeasty taste, instead of the tangy/tart taste of the

> store bought stuff. Is this possible to achieve at home, or am I

> wasting my time?

>

> Thanks for any help/advice that you may have.

>

> R.

> Texas

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

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> > milk to my grains immediately. I did not like the smell at the

end of

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> > the first batch, and poured it down the drain. After reading

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> > everything, I have tried adding more milk, and not allowing it to

go

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> > the full 24 hours, but it still smells sour. I LOVE kefir that I

have

>

> > bought at the store(Lifeway) but I cannot get mine to be even

close.

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> > It has a sour yeasty taste, instead of the tangy/tart taste of the

>

> > store bought stuff. Is this possible to achieve at home, or am I

>

> > wasting my time?

>

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>

> > Thanks for any help/advice that you may have.

>

> >

>

> > R.

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> I had the same problem at first so I got on the internet to find

out

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> what I was doing wrong. If you put your kefir grains in cold milk

>

> right from the fridge it encourages yeast growth and not

lactobacillus

>

> growth. So the milk you put your grains in should be warmed to at

>

> least room temperature. I put the milk

> I'm going to add my grains to

>

> in a jar and put it in a sink full of warm water and bring the

>

> temperature up to slightly warm. Since I started dong this my

kefir

>

> has been delicious with no yeasty flavor at all. I'm not a big fan

of

>

> sour so I follow Marilyn's instructions and only leave my kefir

grains

>

> in the milk for 24 hours so the kefir is creamy and only slightly

>

> tart. I hope this helps.

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What's CYS?

From: Matheny <cathym53@...>

Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP

Date: Monday, September 1, 2008, 10:59 PM

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>

> > I receive my grains last week and was so excited. I added 2 cups

of

>

> > milk to my grains immediately. I did not like the smell at the

end of

>

> > the first batch, and poured it down the drain. After reading

>

> > everything, I have tried adding more milk, and not allowing it to

go

>

> > the full 24 hours, but it still smells sour. I LOVE kefir that I

have

>

> > bought at the store(Lifeway) but I cannot get mine to be even

close.

>

> > It has a sour yeasty taste, instead of the tangy/tart taste of the

>

> > store bought stuff. Is this possible to achieve at home, or am I

>

> > wasting my time?

>

> >

>

> > Thanks for any help/advice that you may have.

>

> >

>

> > R.

>

> > Texas

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>

> Hi, .

>

> I had the same problem at first so I got on the internet to find

out

>

> what I was doing wrong. If you put your kefir grains in cold milk

>

> right from the fridge it encourages yeast growth and not

lactobacillus

>

> growth. So the milk you put your grains in should be warmed to at

>

> least room temperature. I put the milk

> I'm going to add my grains to

>

> in a jar and put it in a sink full of warm water and bring the

>

> temperature up to slightly warm. Since I started dong this my

kefir

>

> has been delicious with no yeasty flavor at all. I'm not a big fan

of

>

> sour so I follow Marilyn's instructions and only leave my kefir

grains

>

> in the milk for 24 hours so the kefir is creamy and only slightly

>

> tart. I hope this helps.

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[Guest guest]

CSY- Caspian Sea Yogurt 

Re: PLEASE HELP

Date: Monday, September 1, 2008, 10:59 PM

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0I receive my grains last week and was so excited. I added 2 cups

of

>

> > milk to my grains immediately. I did not like the smell at the

end of

>

> > the first batch, and poured it down the drain. After reading

>

> > everything, I have tried adding more milk, and not allowing it to

go

>

> > the full 24 hours, but it still smells sour. I LOVE kefir that I

have

>

> > bought at the store(Lifeway) but I cannot get mine to be even

close.

>

> > It has a sour yeasty taste, instead of the tangy/tart taste of the

>

> > store bought stuff. Is this possible to achieve at home, or am I

>

> > wasting my time?

>

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>

> > Thanks for any help/advice that you may have.

>

> >

>

> > R.

>

> > Texas

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> Hi, .

>

> I had the same problem at first so I got on the internet to find

out

>

> what I was doing wrong. If you put your kefir grains in cold milk

>

> right from the fridge it encourages yeast growth and not

lactobacillus

>

> growth. So the milk you put your grains in should be warmed to at

>

> least room te

mperature. I put the milk

> I'm going to add my grains to

>

> in a jar and put it in a sink full of warm water and bring the

>

> temperature up to slightly warm. Since I started dong this my

kefir

>

> has been delicious with no yeasty flavor at all. I'm not a big fan

of

>

> sour so I follow Marilyn's instructions and only leave my kefir

grains

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#1, You can ask that on the CSY discussion forum. Normally you have to

pasteurize milk in order to make yogurt but CSY might be different.

#2 Please trim your posts

Thanks,

Marilyn

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 10:59 PM, Matheny <cathym53@...> wrote:

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[Guest guest]

What state are you in?

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:29 AM, sassykidsboutique

<sassykidsboutique@...> wrote:

>

>

> Hello, this may be a little off topic, but I am wondering if anyone else has

> had this problem or any suggestions on how to handle this. I am

> 36 1/2 weeks pregnant and was just told that I tested positive for

> Group B Strep. I already have 2 other kids that I tested negative for. I

> asked my midwife for another test and she said I can't have another one.

> Well, we did get into a disagreement which is too complicated to get into

> right now but she is pro vaccine and pro medicine. I did not know this

> earlier as her partner delivered my other 2 kids and she was cool with my

> stand. She wants me to have an immediate iv when I arrive at the hospital

> and get antibiotics. I told her I would research it but I DO NOT want this.

> I have to tell her tomorrow and am already dreading this. I have called a

> couple of other midwives and even considered a homebirth but neither one can

> take me this late in the game-they are both booked solid. I typed up a

> decline letter and even stated that my midwife recommended the iv but that I

> didn't want it. Does anyone know if a hospital can force me to get the iv?

> Or if they can go against my wishes and give antibiotics to the baby?

>

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[Guest guest]

I have to tell you that my first pregnancy I tested pos for GBS. This was 10 yrs

ago. My labor went so quickly that my son ended up catching the infection. The

plan was to get antibiotics during labor but my water bag broke and he was born

4 hours later. He was exposed for 2 hrs...by the time I got to the hosp which

was an hour away....my due date was still 2.5 weeks away. He was in the NICU for

12 days on antibiotics...he was  really sick the first week. I know everybody is

different and maybe someone on here can suggest some alternatives but having

been through this I would not change how treatment was given because my newborn

was really sick. As much as I am against the overuse of antibiotics and such...I

experienced the infection first hand and how sick they actually do get. It would

be good to hear what others may have to say. Good Luck!!

 

Kim

From: sassykidsboutique <sassykidsboutique@...>

Subject: Please help

Vaccinations

Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 3:29 PM

Hello, this may be a little off topic, but I am wondering if anyone else has had

this problem or any suggestions on how to handle this. I am

36 1/2 weeks pregnant and was just told that I tested positive for

Group B Strep. I already have 2 other kids that I tested negative for. I asked

my midwife for another test and she said I can't have another one. Well, we did

get into a disagreement which is too complicated to get into right now but she

is pro vaccine and pro medicine. I did not know this earlier as her partner

delivered my other 2 kids and she was cool with my stand. She wants me to have

an immediate iv when I arrive at the hospital and get antibiotics. I told her I

would research it but I DO NOT want this. I have to tell her tomorrow and am

already dreading this. I have called a couple of other midwives and even

considered a homebirth but neither one can take me this late in the game-they

are both booked solid. I typed up a decline letter and even stated that my

midwife recommended the iv but that I didn't want it. Does anyone know if a

hospital can force me to get the iv? Or if they can go against my wishes and

give antibiotics to the baby?

[Guest guest]

i am not sure about all that i have 6 kids and only tested postive with my 6th

almost 2 years ago i got meds in iv.My labor was 4 to 5 hours an di was meds

during that time and my water was broke but he came out fine so i am not sur ei

fthat was enough time with meds etc.This time i tested postive again crazy

Please help

Vaccinations

Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 3:29 PM

Hello, this may be a little off topic, but I am wondering if anyone else has had

this problem or any suggestions on how to handle this. I am

36 1/2 weeks pregnant and was just told that I tested positive for

Group B Strep. I already have 2 other kids that I tested negative for. I asked

my midwife for another test and she said I can't have another one. Well, we did

get into a disagreement which is too complicated to get into right now but she

is pro vaccine and pro medicine. I did not know this earlier as her partner

delivered my other 2 kids and she was cool with my stand. She wants me to have

an immediate iv when I arrive at the hospital and get antibiotics. I told her I

would research it but I DO NOT want this. I have to tell her tomorrow and am

already dreading this. I have called a couple of other midwives and even

considered a homebirth but neither one can take me this late in the game-they

are both booked solid. I typed up a decline letter and even stated that my

midwife recommended the iv but that I didn't want it. Does anyone know if a

hospital can force me to get the iv? Or if they can go against my wishes and

give antibiotics to the baby?

[Guest guest]

yeah...he was my first. went on to have 3 more and was always GBS negative...he

was my first one...it is strange how it works for some people. Can't figure it

out myself.

 

Kim

From: sassykidsboutique <sassykidsboutique>

Subject: Please help

Vaccinations

Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 3:29 PM

Hello, this may be a little off topic, but I am wondering if anyone else has had

this problem or any suggestions on how to handle this. I am

36 1/2 weeks pregnant and was just told that I tested positive for

Group B Strep. I already have 2 other kids that I tested negative for. I asked

my midwife for another test and she said I can't have another one. Well, we did

get into a disagreement which is too complicated to get into right now but she

is pro vaccine and pro medicine. I did not know this earlier as her partner

delivered my other 2 kids and she was cool with my stand. She wants me to have

an immediate iv when I arrive at the hospital and get antibiotics. I told her I

would research it but I DO NOT want this. I have to tell her tomorrow and am

already dreading this. I have called a couple of other midwives and even

considered a homebirth but neither one can take me this late in the game-they

are both booked solid. I typed up a decline letter and even stated that my

midwife recommended the iv but that I didn't want it. Does anyone know if a

hospital can force me to get the iv? Or if they can go against my wishes and

give antibiotics to the baby?

[Guest guest]

Hi,with my first I tested positive and my midwife strongly suggested to take the

iv. And I did. My Son was born healthy and strong and so far he has not had any

side affect from the iv meds (he is 2). With my second which is now I tested

negative but my midwife wanted me to sign a paper saying I would not take the

meds. So it would not come back on her. I guess once you test positive they

consider you to be always positive even if I tested negative the second

time ?????

From: sassykidsboutique <sassykidsboutique@...>

Subject: Please help

Vaccinations

Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 11:29 AM

Hello, this may be a little off topic, but I am wondering if anyone else has had

this problem or any suggestions on how to handle this. I am

36 1/2 weeks pregnant and was just told that I tested positive for

Group B Strep. I already have 2 other kids that I tested negative for. I asked

my midwife for another test and she said I can't have another one. Well, we did

get into a disagreement which is too complicated to get into right now but she

is pro vaccine and pro medicine. I did not know this earlier as her partner

delivered my other 2 kids and she was cool with my stand. She wants me to have

an immediate iv when I arrive at the hospital and get antibiotics. I told her I

would research it but I DO NOT want this. I have to tell her tomorrow and am

already dreading this. I have called a couple of other midwives and even

considered a homebirth but neither one can take me this late in the game-they

are both booked solid. I typed up a decline letter and even stated that my

midwife recommended the iv but that I didn't want it. Does anyone know if a

hospital can force me to get the iv? Or if they can go against my wishes and

give antibiotics to the baby?

[Guest guest]

I am in PA

[Guest guest]

Oh bummer, I was going to hook you up with a midwife that would take

you at this late date if you were a bit closer to the southwest.

Have you heard about garlic to treat GBS? You can search the archives

of this list for GBS and garlic, or if you let me know I'll email you

off-list with instructions.

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 2:12 PM, sassykidsboutique

<sassykidsboutique@...> wrote:

>

>

> I am in PA

[Guest guest]

i tested positive w/dd2 when i was planning a homebirth. My midwife gave

me a natural protocol to take (probiotics, echinacea, zinc, grapefruit seed

extract, garlic, vit c, etc) and i delivered just fine w/no complications.

i don't know if i would have retested positive or not, but you can and

often do change status throughout your pregnancy, so you are absolutely right

to request to be retested.

w/ds...i planned another homebirth and i just did the protocol again even

though i opted not to be tested. again, delivered fine w/no problems. i

just had dd3 5.5 months ago (homebirth)...we opted out of the test and just

did the protocol again.

you can ABSOLUTELY decline the abx, BUT then after the baby is born they

can be really nasty and make the baby stay in NICU for abx for days after the

birth (for " observation " ). If that's the case, then make sure that you

bring in a good probiotic and demand that they give it to the baby.

There is no way that the homebirth midwife would take you on? If that's

something you're really serious about doing, I would call her back and ask

her to make an exception or ask if she has any other recommendations for

midwives. If that's out of the question, I would suggest that you write your

letter and take it to the midwife and have her sign it. If she refuses,

then I would demand that you be retested. Either she signs your letter or she

retests you...keep the ball in your court. You've still got plenty of

time to start the GBS protocol and be tested in a few weeks, granted if you

don't go into labor before then!

Best of luck!

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[Guest guest]

In NY at least, when I gave birth, no matter if you took the IV antibiotics or

you didn't, they gave antibiotics to the baby in the hospital if you tested

positive, period.

Immediately start a regimen to lower your Strep count and potentially go back to

testing negative, which happens and isn't all that hard to do. Quick vaginal

birth, deny and decline all IV's and antibiotics, keep the baby with you in your

room 100% of the time and get home asap. Once you have that baby signed out of

there, the baby is in the care of its pediatrician. So, get a good ped that

agrees with you. :-)

HTH. -Arlynn

[Guest guest]

It is unfortunate that your midwife, at the eleventh hour, is not able to

advocate for what you want your birth experience to be. She would probably be

the best one to answer those questions. I imagine that if you signed a waiver

of IV antibiotics at the hospital beforehand (with your preregistraion packet)

they would have to honor it. It might help to call the OB nurses at your

hospital and ask. If they say okay, my thought is that you want to make sure

your partner, dula, and any other birth advocates who will be with you for the

birth know your stance and can fight off anyone who threatens your comfort and

safety.

The group B strep thing is such a racket...why won't she retest you? You can do

a vaginal garlic treatment (http://www.sgbirthservices.com/gbs4.pdf) and retest

negative and not have to deal with the whole thing!

All the best!

d.

-- In Vaccinations , " sassykidsboutique " <sassykidsboutique@...>

wrote:

>

> Hello, this may be a little off topic, but I am wondering if anyone else has

had this problem or any suggestions on how to handle this. I am

> 36 1/2 weeks pregnant and was just told that I tested positive for

> Group B Strep. I already have 2 other kids that I tested negative for. I asked

my midwife for another test and she said I can't have another one. Well, we did

get into a disagreement which is too complicated to get into right now but she

is pro vaccine and pro medicine. I did not know this earlier as her partner

delivered my other 2 kids and she was cool with my stand. She wants me to have

an immediate iv when I arrive at the hospital and get antibiotics. I told her I

would research it but I DO NOT want this. I have to tell her tomorrow and am

already dreading this. I have called a couple of other midwives and even

considered a homebirth but neither one can take me this late in the game-they

are both booked solid. I typed up a decline letter and even stated that my

midwife recommended the iv but that I didn't want it. Does anyone know if a

hospital can force me to get the iv? Or if they can go against my wishes and

give antibiotics to the baby?

>