Guest guest Posted October 19, 2002 Report Share Posted October 19, 2002 >Isn't it amazing that with the smallpox vaccine, doctors appear to be so willing to admit that they can cause injuries and deaths. Yet with other vaccines, they are absolutely safe and effective? Why the difference? Maybe because they have not been used for so long, the vested interests have not yet gotten their propaganda machine in full swing? ***************************************< Could it be that it will be perpetrated on the adult population and they couldn't get away with the lies that it is a genetic problem and has nothing to do with the vaccine? C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Hello all, is absolutely an adorable girl, I'm glad she finally got the gold. She is short but I don't think she or others that height can be compared to LP's. With and other gymnists, I don't know if her height is hereditary or her training in a sense prevented more growth? I know with gymnist's rigorous training they drop so much body fat that it prohibits proper reproductive development (hense the girly appearance), which is why some down the road have had a hard time conceiving. I wonder as well if that plays a part in why some are as short as they are. It's actually funny, my friend who is almost 6' complained she's too tall for gymnastics, I had to laugh. I did have a girl in my hs class who never reached 5' but she does not have a dwarfism. Having a dwarfism isn't just about final height, it has to do with a genetic defect of some kind as well as other underlying factors. - >> Like many, I have been caught up in the Olympics, especially gymnastics >> and swimming. Prior to the Olympics, I read a great article about the >> amazing >> U.S. female gymnast, . Ms. is sixteen, and is only >> 4' 8 " tall. What struck me, and this is no reflection on Ms. , >> is in >> one >> sense, she is no taller than many of us. It is highly unlikely she will >> grow much taller than she is now. And yet, " society " views her with >> pride as a >> world champion athlete...as opposed to how we tend to be viewed. I was >> just >> curious if anyone else happened to notice this, and what your thoughts >> were. >> >> Hopefully the day will come when WE too, are viewed no differently >> than >> anyone else...champion athlete or not. >> >> Adelaide >> >> >> >> ************ **It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your >> travel >> deal here. >> (http://information. travel.aol. com/deals? ncid=aoltrv00050 000000047) >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Actually, if you did a national DMV database search of people who are 4'10 and under (the height line for LPA), you'd find not just thousands, but millions of adults who would technically qualify for LPA, which is why we include the statement: " and a medical diagnosis of dwarfism. " Most are from SE Asia and Latin America. The Inuit and Eskimos also are very short statured. In 's case, I think it's a matter of age. I'll bet by the time the 2012 Olympics roll around, she will have added a couple inches to her height. My dad (an AP) was only 5'2 " when he started college; by the time he graduated, he was 5'11 " . Also, to me, a " true " dwarf has associated complications in addition to being short: i.e., orthopedic or respiratory, etc. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 I actually wrote a Graduate level 10 page typewritten paper at Pace University entitled, " Dwarf, what a concept " . It defined the term, giving exemplary cases of those who are definitely dwarfs and those who are definitely NOT dwarfs. One exemplary case was borderline. In my definition I also included those who had " self identified " as dwarfs. That seems to be quite important. Like homosexuality. You can have all the sex you want to have with those of the same sex however, self identifying as gay seems to be key to actually being gay. Having a medical condition which causes the profound level of short stature is key as well, of course. Re: The " difference " Actually, if you did a national DMV database search of people who are 4'10 and under (the height line for LPA), you'd find not just thousands, but millions of adults who would technically qualify for LPA, which is why we include the statement: " and a medical diagnosis of dwarfism. " Most are from SE Asia and Latin America. The Inuit and Eskimos also are very short statured. In 's case, I think it's a matter of age. I'll bet by the time the 2012 Olympics roll around, she will have added a couple inches to her height. My dad (an AP) was only 5'2 " when he started college; by the time he graduated, he was 5'11 " . Also, to me, a " true " dwarf has associated complications in addition to being short: i.e., orthopedic or respiratory, etc. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Folks: Let's remember that is ONLY 16! Biologically she's not full grown yet. Last time I checked women continue to grow until they're about 18-19 years old. Men continue to develop and gain height until they're 22-23. If she comes to the 2012 Olympics I'd bet money she'll be topping out at about 5'1 " or so. -marty Marty -Merritts Administrative Assistant Intermediate UM School of Nursing 400 NIB, Room 4342 Ann Arbor, MI 48109-0482 phone: 734-615-3288 ********************************************************** Electronic Mail is not secure, may not be read every day, and should not be used for urgent or sensitive issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Wait, then how come I'm still growing? ! I am a male and I'm over 23, not by much tho, haha;) but still I'm growing.... Oh yeah, you meant vertically! haha I gotta shorten some of my horizontal height! ~grady;) > Folks: > > Let's remember that is ONLY 16! Biologically she's not full grown yet. Last time I checked women continue to grow until they're about 18-19 years old. Men continue to develop and gain height until they're 22-23. > -marty > > Marty -Merritts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 I stopped growing at age 12, well, in terms of height... My mother's side of the family, all the girls with the exception of one, had reached their final height around age 12. It also depends on genetics as well... ~ a > > Folks: > > Let's remember that is ONLY 16! Biologically she's not full grown yet. Last time I checked women continue to grow until they're about 18-19 years old. Men continue to develop and gain height until they're 22-23. If she comes to the 2012 Olympics I'd bet money she'll be topping out at about 5'1 " or so. > > -marty > > Marty -Merritts > Administrative Assistant Intermediate > UM School of Nursing > 400 NIB, Room 4342 > Ann Arbor, MI 48109-0482 > phone: 734-615-3288 > ********************************************************** > Electronic Mail is not secure, may not be read every day, and should not be used for urgent or sensitive issues > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 I understand how many LP's could see that an individual who is " short " may not seem like they should be considered LP. However, I am 4'9 " and although I am proportioned normally. I do however, struggle. I was also a gymnast for many years and that did not prevent my growth. I come from a small family; dad is 5 feet / mom is 5'2 " brother is 5' 3 " . I suffer from joint issues. Not because of gymnastics (well not just becauste). I have deteriorating tissue in my knees and the fluids that usually run through the joints is not close to what most have. I don't know and doubt this is a LP issue but it is a family trait. I had bowed legs as a young child from what doctors called a curvature in the shin bones. I wore braces to help straighten them out. maybe this helped me grow taller. I am not saying that I am LP but law says I am. I do believe that I am smaller then the " norm " but taller then the average dwarf. It's hard to find a happy medium.... I think that I am just one more who cannot reach most counters at hotels, top of the closet and many other things. Re: The " difference " Actually, if you did a national DMV database search of people who are 4'10 and under (the height line for LPA), you'd find not just thousands, but millions of adults who would technically qualify for LPA, which is why we include the statement: " and a medical diagnosis of dwarfism. " Most are from SE Asia and Latin America. The Inuit and Eskimos also are very short statured. In 's case, I think it's a matter of age. I'll bet by the time the 2012 Olympics roll around, she will have added a couple inches to her height. My dad (an AP) was only 5'2 " when he started college; by the time he graduated, he was 5'11 " . Also, to me, a " true " dwarf has associated complications in addition to being short: i.e., orthopedic or respiratory, etc. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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