New to group

[Guest guest]

Casey,

You can jazz up protein shakes to make them seem just like icecream.

Play with different flavorings, instant puddings, fruit, etc. until you find a

combination that you like.

Currently my favorite is:

5 or 6 icemaker ice cubes

10-15 frozen blueberries (from Schwan's)

frozen fruit (mango, pineapple, strawberries...from Schwan's)

1 tsp honey

1 tsp splenda

1 container of blueberry yogurt (Activia)

1/3 cup milk (skim or 1%)

2 tbsp sugar free/fat free instant pudding powder mix (Banana Cream flavor)

1 and 1/2 scoop vanilla Unjury protein powder

Magic Bullet to blend

I really like this one.  I have even dropped in a few mini chocolate chips ...

just enough to get that little bit of chocolate FIX.

I never want ice cream now.  I want these types of shakes.  It is my meal /

dessert one time each day.

 

Burson

Pampered Chef

Independent Consultant

http://www.pamperedchef.biz/carrieb

 

 

new to group

Hi Everyone!!!! !!!

I am new to group. In Nov I will have had the band for 1 year. I have lost 10

pounds due to the fact I have been eating tons of ice cream. I broke both of my

feet in May and am just now back to normal.

 

I had way too much in my band and just got some removed and feel so much better.

I am going off all sugar (my weakness) and eating foods on the South Beach

diet.  My band dr said I was fighting a losing battle which made me really mad

so now I am in this 100%

 

I am looking forward to and thank everyone is advance for all the help and

encouragement! !!

 

HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY AND THANKS FOR READING THIS INSTEAD OF JUST HITTING DELETE.

LOVE YA ALL,

 CASEY

 

[Guest guest]

thank you so much !!!  I was wondering how life was gonna go on without my

ice cream. i live in hawaii and it is hard to find sugar free products already

made, so this sounds so good and really easy to make, can't wait to try this.

HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY AND THANKS FOR READING THIS INSTEAD OF JUST HITTING DELETE.

LOVE YA ALL,

 CASEY

 

From: Burson <burson.carrie@...>

Subject: Re: new to group

Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 6:18 PM

Casey,

You can jazz up protein shakes to make them seem just like icecream.

Play with different flavorings , instant puddings, fruit, etc. until you find a

combination that you like.

Currently my favorite is:

5 or 6 icemaker ice cubes

10-15 frozen blueberries (from Schwan's)

frozen fruit (mango, pineapple, strawberries. ..from Schwan's)

1 tsp honey

1 tsp splenda

1 container of blueberry yogurt (Activia)

1/3 cup milk (skim or 1%)

2 tbsp sugar free/fat free instant pudding powder mix (Banana Cream flavor)

1 and 1/2 scoop vanilla Unjury protein powder

Magic Bullet to blend

I really like this one.  I have even dropped in a few mini chocolate chips ...

just enough to get that little bit of chocolate FIX.

I never want ice cream now.  I want these types of shakes.  It is my meal /

dessert one time each day.

 

Burson

Pampered Chef

Independent Consultant

http://www.pampered chef.biz/ carrieb

 

 

new to group

Hi Everyone!!!! !!!

I am new to group. In Nov I will have had the band for 1 year. I have lost 10

pounds due to the fact I have been eating tons of ice cream. I broke both of my

feet in May and am just now back to normal.

 

I had way too much in my band and just got some removed and feel so much better.

I am going off all sugar (my weakness) and eating foods on the South Beach

diet.  My band dr said I was fighting a losing battle which made me really mad

so now I am in this 100%

 

I am looking forward to and thank everyone is advance for all the help and

encouragement! !!

 

HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY AND THANKS FOR READING THIS INSTEAD OF JUST HITTING DELETE.

LOVE YA ALL,

 CASEY

 

[Guest guest]

Hi, Casey - glad you found us! We'll help all we can, but it is YOUR

responsibility to learn what is needed to do well, and change old

poor habits.

You'll find lots of good info in the files here, re good food

choices, and the nutrition goals we need to strive for.

These are the things i'd suggest, to start:

1. Start tracking on www.the dailyplate.com or www.fitday.com to see

what you're honestly eating. with a decent fill, a good goal for most

men is about 1800-2000 cal a day, unless you're starting much

heavier.

2. Read the Band Guide in the files for basic nutrition info - men

need about 60-70 gm of protein a day, 25 of fiber, and about505 of he

diet from the good carbs. (veggies, nonfat dairy, whole grains, a

small bit of fruit). these goals are impt for safe loss and regaining

health.

3. Commit to some daily exercise. I know your feet were a problem,

but there are still lotds of exercsies that can be dione with the

upper body. wateraerobics are very good for feet, knee, and hip

problems, since the water bears some of the weight.

4. How is your fill now? Have you had a recent fluoroscopy?

5. please consider working on the emotional eating with a good

therapist and/or the Bandster Success Guided Imagerry CD's at

www.BandsterME.com The emtioanl aspects of banding are the most

difficult, yet things people rarely acknolwdege or work on.

6. please consider using the special BAND vitamins in the Vitamin

document. i use them myself and strongly recommend them, based on new

research. The otc ones like Centrum and Viactiv are just NOT adequate

for most of us in the losing phases of banding.

Glad you're here! please ask about anbything you wish.

The band is here for you, and ready to help you when YOU are ready to

work with it! I'm glad your doc made you mad - now, let's prove him

WRONG!!

Sandy r

>

> Hi Everyone!!!!!!!

> I am new to group. In Nov I will have had the band for 1 year. I

have lost 10 pounds due to the fact I have been eating tons of ice

cream. I broke both of my feet in May and am just now back to normal.

>  

> I had way too much in my band and just got some removed and feel so

much better. I am going off all sugar (my weakness) and eating foods

on the South Beach diet.  My band dr said I was fighting a losing

battle which made me really mad so now I am in this 100%

>  

> I am looking forward to and thank everyone is advance for all the

help and encouragement!!!

>

>

>  

> HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY AND THANKS FOR READING THIS INSTEAD OF JUST

HITTING DELETE.

> LOVE YA ALL,

>  CASEY

>  

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Casey,

I just got out of a similar situation. My band was too tight (didn't

realize it; just thought I had " restriction " ) and I turned to soft

foods that would go through. I wound up gaining around 30 lbs.

On vacation in June I got seasick (vomited) and wound up having to have

all the fill taken out of my band as I couldn't even get water to go

down after the seasick episode. After a three-week healing period, I

had a small amount of fill put back in, which was a month ago. I just

went to the doctor this morning and I lost TWELVE POUNDS in the last

month.

Congrats on your rededication. You CAN do this!!

--

//I had way too much in my band and just got some removed and feel so

much better. //

[Guest guest]

Welcome! That is a very large amt of weight to lose in such a short

period of time, so i'm not surprised that you're now stalled. the goal

is never to lose as fast as possible, since this usually backfires and

we ened up with a big set back.

This is a very hard concept to accept, since we're all programmed from

past diets to eat as few calories as possible.

But that did not work before, and will not work now either - if it had

worked, none of us would have regained so badly we needed band surgery !

Lots of NEW things to learn now, and some old ideas to forget too.

What i'd suggest now is to review the Band Guide in the files. Be sure

you're eating at least 1200-1500 cal a day, and more like 1500-1800 if

you're over 350#. Aim hard for the protein, fiber, calcium, and good

carb goals in the Guide, as well as the minimum 80-100 oz of fluids.

continue the good xercise, and perhaps see your doc for a bit more

fill . As we lose, we need more fill to keep the band snug.

Plan meals a week in advance, shop for onl those itemns, and don;'t

have junk in the house. asier to say than do, i know! but it's

important to do the best you can with this.

Alo, please consider starting the good Bandster vitamins in the Vitamin

document in the files. The standard otc vits from supermarkets are just

not adequate, for the many reasons listed.

Glad you're here!

Sandy r

>

> Hi! I'm new to this group. I was banded May 28th and lost 40# right

> away, by the first week of July. I have spent the rest of this summer

> regaining and losing the same three pounds. It's my fault, not been

> following the " band rules " totally. I do great with the exercise

> part, it's the food choices(of course) that I am struggling with.

> Been choosing too much junk and carb items. I feel like my brain is

> working against me. Glad this group is here. Look forward to reading

> and learning, and maybe someday in someway being helpful to someone

else.

>

[Guest guest]

,

 

Thanks!! After getting some removed it is so nice to be able to drink water

without it giving me heartburn like symptoms.  So sorry that happened on your

vacation, glad you got some removed and are back to losing again, 12 in one

month is great!!!!

 

Thanks for your kind words of encouragement. I am on day 3 of no sugar!!!

HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY AND THANKS FOR READING THIS INSTEAD OF JUST HITTING DELETE.

LOVE YA ALL,

 CASEY

 

From: <branjo_70@...>

Subject: Re: new to group

Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 1:19 PM

Hi Casey,

I just got out of a similar situation. My band was too tight (didn't

realize it; just thought I had " restriction " ) and I turned to soft

foods that would go through. I wound up gaining around 30 lbs.

On vacation in June I got seasick (vomited) and wound up having to have

all the fill taken out of my band as I couldn't even get water to go

down after the seasick episode. After a three-week healing period, I

had a small amount of fill put back in, which was a month ago. I just

went to the doctor this morning and I lost TWELVE POUNDS in the last

month.

Congrats on your rededication. You CAN do this!!

--

//I had way too much in my band and just got some removed and feel so

much better. //

[Guest guest]

Thanks for all the information and helpful sites to look at. My dr has said for

a female my age I should not be going over 800 cal., but I am gonna cross check

that with the sites you gave me.  I have been taking a liquid vitamin shake from

GNC, the pills make me sick.  Since me feet are still healing I am swimming and

doing upper body weight training.

 

I know it is all on me and I am ready to get healthy and live my life to the

fullest!!!

HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY AND THANKS FOR READING THIS INSTEAD OF JUST HITTING DELETE.

LOVE YA ALL,

 CASEY

 

From: moonshadow.sandy <moonshadow.sandy@...>

Subject: Re: new to group

Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 7:26 AM

Hi, Casey - glad you found us! We'll help all we can, but it is YOUR

responsibility to learn what is needed to do well, and change old

poor habits.

You'll find lots of good info in the files here, re good food

choices, and the nutrition goals we need to strive for.

These are the things i'd suggest, to start:

1. Start tracking on www.the dailyplate.com or www.fitday.com to see

what you're honestly eating. with a decent fill, a good goal for most

men is about 1800-2000 cal a day, unless you're starting much

heavier.

2. Read the Band Guide in the files for basic nutrition info - men

need about 60-70 gm of protein a day, 25 of fiber, and about505 of he

diet from the good carbs. (veggies, nonfat dairy, whole grains, a

small bit of fruit). these goals are impt for safe loss and regaining

health.

3. Commit to some daily exercise. I know your feet were a problem,

but there are still lotds of exercsies that can be dione with the

upper body. wateraerobics are very good for feet, knee, and hip

problems, since the water bears some of the weight.

4. How is your fill now? Have you had a recent fluoroscopy?

5. please consider working on the emotional eating with a good

therapist and/or the Bandster Success Guided Imagerry CD's at

www.BandsterME. com The emtioanl aspects of banding are the most

difficult, yet things people rarely acknolwdege or work on.

6. please consider using the special BAND vitamins in the Vitamin

document. i use them myself and strongly recommend them, based on new

research. The otc ones like Centrum and Viactiv are just NOT adequate

for most of us in the losing phases of banding.

Glad you're here! please ask about anbything you wish.

The band is here for you, and ready to help you when YOU are ready to

work with it! I'm glad your doc made you mad - now, let's prove him

WRONG!!

Sandy r

>

> Hi Everyone!!!! !!!

> I am new to group. In Nov I will have had the band for 1 year. I

have lost 10 pounds due to the fact I have been eating tons of ice

cream. I broke both of my feet in May and am just now back to normal.

>  

> I had way too much in my band and just got some removed and feel so

much better. I am going off all sugar (my weakness) and eating foods

on the South Beach diet.  My band dr said I was fighting a losing

battle which made me really mad so now I am in this 100%

>  

> I am looking forward to and thank everyone is advance for all the

help and encouragement! !!

>

>

>  

> HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY AND THANKS FOR READING THIS INSTEAD OF JUST

HITTING DELETE.

> LOVE YA ALL,

>  CASEY

>  

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Casey, I'm afraid I have to strongly disagree withonly 800 calories.

He sounds like a bypass doc who does not undertand band needs. 800 ca

a day will put you into starvation mode (i prefer to call it

deprivation mode) and will stall you out. it also cannot poasibly

provide even the basic nutrients needed for health.

Here is more on starvation mode:

http://www.mydietforweightloss.com/Starvation-Mode

http://www.burnthefatblog.com/archives/2007/11/is_starvation_mode_a_my

th_no_i.php (cut and paste entire link if needed)

http://www.netwellness.org/question.cfm/28515.htm

I'd ask him to design a food plan that meets the 50 gm solid protein,

25 gm fiber, 1500 mg calcium, omega 3 oils and 50% from the good

carb - in only 800 cal. simply cannot be done.

I'm also afraid the liquid GNc vits are junk. they are not USP

certified, are not a form we can absorb, and are very poor quality.

We alo need to avoid shakes and other liquid calories with the band.

We ned to use our pouch space and calorie allotment for only the best

solid foods that make the band work. 1-2 glasses a day of skim milk

are the exception, becuase of the good cacium content.

The chewable VitaBand vits from Bariatic Advantage are excellent, and

you also need calcium and omega 3 supplements, especially if you are

trying to be on such a terribly deficient diet. Please consider the

Bariatric Advantage vits in the Vitmin document in the files. they

are far better, carry the important USP seal, are formulated for

bandsters and proven excellent. I gave the website of the lady i get

mine from, at a great discount.

Sandy r

>

> Thanks for all the information and helpful sites to look at. My dr

has said for a female my age I should not be going over 800 cal., but

I am gonna cross check that with the sites you gave me.  I have been

taking a liquid vitamin shake from GNC, the pills make me sick. 

Since me feet are still healing I am swimming and doing upper body

weight training.

>  

> I know it is all on me and I am ready to get healthy and live my

life to the fullest!!!

>

>

> HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY AND THANKS FOR READING THIS INSTEAD OF JUST

HITTING DELETE.

> LOVE YA ALL,

>  CASEY

>

[Guest guest]

, I'm afraid that it's best to avoid all liquid calories,

including protein shakes, juices, and smoothies. This is a basic

band rule, since theband works only with solid foods, ad never with

liquid or soft foods.

We need to get protein from the solid foods that make the band work

for us for ideal weiht loss.

but our success is always up to us nd our choices.

The " Why avoid liquid calories? " document in the files explains the

many reasons why.

Times of band trouble, when we ned a brief liquid diet, are an

exception of course.

sandy r

at goal 4.75 yrs

band educator

>

> Casey,

> You can jazz up protein shakes to make them seem just like icecream.

> Play with different flavorings, instant puddings, fruit, etc. until

you find a combination that you like.

> Currently my favorite is:

> 5 or 6 icemaker ice cubes

> 10-15 frozen blueberries (from Schwan's)

> frozen fruit (mango, pineapple, strawberries...from Schwan's)

> 1 tsp honey

> 1 tsp splenda

> 1 container of blueberry yogurt (Activia)

> 1/3 cup milk (skim or 1%)

> 2 tbsp sugar free/fat free instant pudding powder mix (Banana Cream

flavor)

> 1 and 1/2 scoop vanilla Unjury protein powder

> Magic Bullet to blend

> I really like this one.  I have even dropped in a few mini

chocolate chips ... just enough to get that little bit of

chocolate FIX.

> I never want ice cream now.  I want these types of shakes.  It is

my meal / dessert one time each day.

>

>  

> Burson

> Pampered Chef

> Independent Consultant

> http://www.pamperedchef.biz/carrieb

>  

>  

>

>

>

> new to group

>

>

> Hi Everyone!!!! !!!

> I am new to group. In Nov I will have had the band for 1 year. I

have lost 10 pounds due to the fact I have been eating tons of ice

cream. I broke both of my feet in May and am just now back to normal.

>  

> I had way too much in my band and just got some removed and feel so

much better. I am going off all sugar (my weakness) and eating foods

on the South Beach diet.  My band dr said I was fighting a losing

battle which made me really mad so now I am in this 100%

>  

> I am looking forward to and thank everyone is advance for all the

help and encouragement! !!

>

>  

> HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY AND THANKS FOR READING THIS INSTEAD OF JUST

HITTING DELETE.

> LOVE YA ALL,

>  CASEY

>  

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello,

My name is Barb and I was banded on 7/7/08 by Dr Fielding at NYU. I

have lost 52 lbs thus far from before my two week pre-op diet. I am learning

how to work with my band from trial and error. I am slowing learning to change

my habits when eating that just don't work with the band. It is my " head " hunger

that I find the most trouble with. Today was a good day and I am glad to be a

member of this group! Looking forward to meeting new bansters, and getting and

giving support!

[Guest guest]

THANKS SANDI AND CARRIE!!!

 

I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH LIQUID CALORIES AND I HAVE BEEN AVOIDING THEM SINCE I

AM BACK IN THE GAME.   I WILL ONLY USE THE PROTEIN SHAKES AS A " TREAT " IF I NEED

TO HAVE ONE AND IF THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH MY BAND.  SOLIDS ARE THE WAY TO GO

SINCE THEY DO KEEP YOU FULL AND THAT IS HOW THE BAND WORKS BEST.  GOOD TO BE

REMINDED.

HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY AND THANKS FOR READING THIS INSTEAD OF JUST HITTING DELETE.

LOVE YA ALL,

 CASEY

 

From: moonshadow.sandy <moonshadow.sandy@...>

Subject: Re: new to group

Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 6:25 AM

, I'm afraid that it's best to avoid all liquid calories,

including protein shakes, juices, and smoothies. This is a basic

band rule, since theband works only with solid foods, ad never with

liquid or soft foods.

We need to get protein from the solid foods that make the band work

for us for ideal weiht loss.

but our success is always up to us nd our choices.

The " Why avoid liquid calories? " document in the files explains the

many reasons why.

Times of band trouble, when we ned a brief liquid diet, are an

exception of course.

sandy r

at goal 4.75 yrs

band educator

>

> Casey,

> You can jazz up protein shakes to make them seem just like icecream.

> Play with different flavorings , instant puddings, fruit, etc. until

you find a combination that you like.

> Currently my favorite is:

> 5 or 6 icemaker ice cubes

> 10-15 frozen blueberries (from Schwan's)

> frozen fruit (mango, pineapple, strawberries. ..from Schwan's)

> 1 tsp honey

> 1 tsp splenda

> 1 container of blueberry yogurt (Activia)

> 1/3 cup milk (skim or 1%)

> 2 tbsp sugar free/fat free instant pudding powder mix (Banana Cream

flavor)

> 1 and 1/2 scoop vanilla Unjury protein powder

> Magic Bullet to blend

> I really like this one.  I have even dropped in a few mini

chocolate chips ... just enough to get that little bit of

chocolate FIX.

> I never want ice cream now.  I want these types of shakes.  It is

my meal / dessert one time each day.

>

>  

> Burson

> Pampered Chef

> Independent Consultant

> http://www.pampered chef.biz/ carrieb

>  

>  

>

>

>

> new to group

>

>

> Hi Everyone!!!! !!!

> I am new to group. In Nov I will have had the band for 1 year. I

have lost 10 pounds due to the fact I have been eating tons of ice

cream. I broke both of my feet in May and am just now back to normal.

>  

> I had way too much in my band and just got some removed and feel so

much better. I am going off all sugar (my weakness) and eating foods

on the South Beach diet.  My band dr said I was fighting a losing

battle which made me really mad so now I am in this 100%

>  

> I am looking forward to and thank everyone is advance for all the

help and encouragement! !!

>

>  

> HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY AND THANKS FOR READING THIS INSTEAD OF JUST

HITTING DELETE.

> LOVE YA ALL,

>  CASEY

>  

>

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome, ! All these fears you have are perfectly normal. But one at a

time. Forget about schools or homeopathy for now (although it is something you

should look into in the future).

First, you are smart to fear vaccines, and to delay vaxing until you're

comfortable with it. As time goes by and you educate yourself more, I think you

will find yourself more and more uncomfortable. You are doing the right thing to

question individual vaccines (especially with tetanus because it is not a

communicable disease--and by the way, natural tetanus doesn't confer immunity,

so how could a vaccine?).

Anyway, there are two main issues with vaccines: safety (you obviously know

vaccines are not safe) and effectiveness. You are too generous when you credit

the pertussis vaccine with a 75-80% efficacy rate. In fact, there cannot be a

flat rate for any vaccine. Each person is different and vaccines within lots can

differ in potency. In fact, that " effectiveness " is just presence of antibodies,

which may or may not last and do not mean protection--no matter what anyone

tries to sell...er, tell you. In fact, vaccines do not protect at all, but they

can, and do, injure and kill. Did you read the experience in today's emails from

a mother whose child was left epileptic, autistic and more from his shots? That

is one of many thousands. if not millions, of children's experiences. You can

believe these parents or you can believe those who profit from the vaccines.

It really is quite simple: if you have an interest in keeping your child

protected, protect them from what you so aptly put as " poison. " Protect them

from the vaccines first. The diseases may never come, and if they do, you'll

nurse your child through them like mothers have done for eons.

As far as schools go, you need to decide if health is more important than

private or preschool. You don't have to choose between them until you put

yourself in that position. My four kids went to private preschool and all used

religious exemptions--no reason you can't, too. However, address that when the

time comes. Not now.

You know, part of this terror you're feeling is intensified because your baby is

still young. Women don't recover from childbirth and new parenthood in a set

number of weeks. I'm sure other moms here will tell you that they did not become

themselves again for at least a year after having a baby. I know that was true

for me. It is really scary having this huge responsibility and not to worry you,

but you have many sleepless nights ahead of you. During those nights, read. Do

your research on vaccines. Start with Neil 's books. Get Mothering

Magazine. It will be okay.

Winnie

New to group

Vaccinations

> Hello -

>

> I am new to this group, and thought I would take a moment to

> introduce myself and my family.

>

> My name is and I am a proud SAHM to my DD 'E' who is 9

> mo

> old. E is currently unvaxinated. Our current plan is to wait

> until

> she is two years old to start a limited vax regime, although we

> often

> talk about starting at age one. As she becomes older, however,

> I

> find myself wondering if perhaps I will never be comfortable

> vaxing

> her. My DD, my DH, and I live in Ohio, which gives us three

> different kind of wavers, including a phiosophical one. My DD,

> however, will be attending private school starting at age three,

> and

> my understanding is that private schools don't have to honor the

> state-issued wavers. If that is the case, I suppose we will be

> forced to do some sort of vax regime with her.

>

> I live every day in fear, and I lay awake every night terrified.

> I

> am so scared of so many things; I am afraid of the vaxinations,

> which

> I beleive are absolutely poison. I am afraid of the illnessess

> that

> could cause serious injury and possibly death. I am afraid of

> homopathy, which (in my very scientifically oriented mind) is

> untested and has inconclusive benefits. I am afraid of doctors,

> who

> I have found across the board to be uneducated in anything

> outside

> the narrow path dictated by the AAP. I am afraid of my own

> capacity

> to make an itelligent decision, as my judgment is clouded in a

> strong

> protective instinct. I feel that I have no where to turn,

> because my

> doctor won't help me make an informed decsion (he is, himself,

> uninformed when it comes to vax) and none of my friends have

> delayed

> all vaxes.

>

> As for the diseases that scare me, my primary worries right now

> are

> whooping cough and tetanus. I had whooping cough as an adult,

> and it

> was horrible. I can't imagine putting my 9 mo old through that.

> I

> realize that the vax only has about a 75-80% efficicacy rate,

> but my

> understanding is that those who do still get the illness get a

> much

> less severe case. Tetanus scares me just because it is so very

> serious, and the tetanus shot after injury does nothing for a

> child

> who has not had the initial vax. Only the TIB can be given, and

> then

> only in the first 72 hours. I'm sure more illnesses will cause

> me to

> lose sleep in the future, but right now those are the ones that

> make

> my blood run cold.

>

> Okay, sorry for the novel! Back to lurking.

>

>

[Guest guest]

There is nothing to fear but fear itself.

 

F.D.R.

New to group

Hello -

I am new to this group, and thought I would take a moment to

introduce myself and my family.

My name is and I am a proud SAHM to my DD 'E' who is 9 mo

old. E is currently unvaxinated. Our current plan is to wait until

she is two years old to start a limited vax regime, although we often

talk about starting at age one. As she becomes older, however, I

find myself wondering if perhaps I will never be comfortable vaxing

her. My DD, my DH, and I live in Ohio, which gives us three

different kind of wavers, including a phiosophical one. My DD,

however, will be attending private school starting at age three, and

my understanding is that private schools don't have to honor the

state-issued wavers. If that is the case, I suppose we will be

forced to do some sort of vax regime with her.

I live every day in fear, and I lay awake every night terrified. I

am so scared of so many things; I am afraid of the vaxinations, which

I beleive are absolutely poison. I am afraid of the illnessess that

could cause serious injury and possibly death. I am afraid of

homopathy, which (in my very scientifically oriented mind) is

untested and has inconclusive benefits. I am afraid of doctors, who

I have found across the board to be uneducated in anything outside

the narrow path dictated by the AAP. I am afraid of my own capacity

to make an itelligent decision, as my judgment is clouded in a strong

protective instinct. I feel that I have no where to turn, because my

doctor won't help me make an informed decsion (he is, himself,

uninformed when it comes to vax) and none of my friends have delayed

all vaxes.

As for the diseases that scare me, my primary worries right now are

whooping cough and tetanus. I had whooping cough as an adult, and it

was horrible. I can't imagine putting my 9 mo old through that. I

realize that the vax only has about a 75-80% efficicacy rate, but my

understanding is that those who do still get the illness get a much

less severe case. Tetanus scares me just because it is so very

serious, and the tetanus shot after injury does nothing for a child

who has not had the initial vax. Only the TIB can be given, and then

only in the first 72 hours. I'm sure more illnesses will cause me to

lose sleep in the future, but right now those are the ones that make

my blood run cold.

Okay, sorry for the novel! Back to lurking.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Fear itself and the government!!

On Oct 21, 2008, at 2:22 AM, Jim O wrote:

> There is nothing to fear but fear itself.

>

> F.D.R.

>

> New to group

>

> Hello -

>

> I am new to this group, and thought I would take a moment to

> introduce myself and my family.

>

> My name is and I am a proud SAHM to my DD 'E' who is 9 mo

> old. E is currently unvaxinated. Our current plan is to wait until

> she is two years old to start a limited vax regime, although we often

> talk about starting at age one. As she becomes older, however, I

> find myself wondering if perhaps I will never be comfortable vaxing

> her. My DD, my DH, and I live in Ohio, which gives us three

> different kind of wavers, including a phiosophical one. My DD,

> however, will be attending private school starting at age three, and

> my understanding is that private schools don't have to honor the

> state-issued wavers. If that is the case, I suppose we will be

> forced to do some sort of vax regime with her.

>

> I live every day in fear, and I lay awake every night terrified. I

> am so scared of so many things; I am afraid of the vaxinations, which

> I beleive are absolutely poison. I am afraid of the illnessess that

> could cause serious injury and possibly death. I am afraid of

> homopathy, which (in my very scientifically oriented mind) is

> untested and has inconclusive benefits. I am afraid of doctors, who

> I have found across the board to be uneducated in anything outside

> the narrow path dictated by the AAP. I am afraid of my own capacity

> to make an itelligent decision, as my judgment is clouded in a strong

> protective instinct. I feel that I have no where to turn, because my

> doctor won't help me make an informed decsion (he is, himself,

> uninformed when it comes to vax) and none of my friends have delayed

> all vaxes.

>

> As for the diseases that scare me, my primary worries right now are

> whooping cough and tetanus. I had whooping cough as an adult, and it

> was horrible. I can't imagine putting my 9 mo old through that. I

> realize that the vax only has about a 75-80% efficicacy rate, but my

> understanding is that those who do still get the illness get a much

> less severe case. Tetanus scares me just because it is so very

> serious, and the tetanus shot after injury does nothing for a child

> who has not had the initial vax. Only the TIB can be given, and then

> only in the first 72 hours. I'm sure more illnesses will cause me to

> lose sleep in the future, but right now those are the ones that make

> my blood run cold.

>

> Okay, sorry for the novel! Back to lurking.

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

> First, you are smart to fear vaccines, and to delay vaxing until

you're comfortable with it. As time goes by and you educate yourself

more, I think you will find yourself more and more uncomfortable.

This is great advice. And exactly what happened to me.

My first revelation about vaccines was that there was other " stuff " in

the vaccine other than the virus itself. That started the ball rolling

for me...

I was never afraid of being sick - but it is a little different when

it's your baby ! I researched vaccines for years before becoming

totally comfortable with not vaxxing. I had a homebirth so I never had

to worry about those first shots right after birth. After years of

research, I decided not vaxxing was the way to go. My son is now

4, healthy and completely unvaxxed. In all of 4 years, he's had one ear

infection (cured by chiropractic and garlic oil) and a few minor colds.

He's not isolated either: been in home daycare since he was 1.5 and is

now in pre-K. He's been on several trans-Atlantic flights and in Hawaii.

Take Winnie's advice: educate yourself to get rid of the irrational

fear and then do what YOU feel comfortable with. Not your parents, in-

laws, doctor, ped, family, next door neighbor, etc. YOU.

Good luck on your journey,

Magda

[Guest guest]

Hi and welcome

I am sure you will get all the help and support you are looking for

here, it is a great group of people, all sharing.

Have you had any recent tests you would like to post? How are you

doing on the Armour, improvements?

I have CFS and FM or at least what they call you when they don't know

what is really wrong lol. I suffer from Hashimotos. I firmly believe

all the symptoms of FM and CFS are rooted in our hormonal problems. I

have lost quite a lot of my pain since starting Armour how about you?

take care and God bless

Dawnx

[Guest guest]

Hiya and welcome to the group

I have not read enough literature to give you an informed opinion.

However I can tell you that my mum has only ever taken Thyroxine for

her thyroid problems and she has really 'shrunk' and has osteoathritis.

I have read on forums people having bone density scans before Armour

and finding their bones improve on it.

You might like to look up some scientific articles on thyroid

replacement and osteoporosis if you are concerned.

God bless

Dawnx

[Guest guest]

Hi Janet

If your sister is doing well on levothyroxine alone, there is no

reason why would need to change to Armour. However, if she still has symptoms this

might mean the levothyroxine is not working for her anymore. This can happen

with synthetic thyroxine. It is a mainly inactive hormone and needs to convert

through the liver and kidneys to the active hormone T3. After taking

levothyroxine for years, it sometimes happens that a patient cannot convert it

sufficiently any more and these patients do better on a combination of

synthetic T4/T3 or natural thyroid extract.

There is NO evidence that taking thyroid hormone replacement

causes osteoporosis - this is an ugly rumour put about by endocrinologists who

have not looked at the facts. There are many studies to show that osteoporosis

can be caused through menopause - and isn't it a coincidence that the

hypothyroid patients who do develop osteoporosis have gone through the

menopause.

Luv - Sheila

My sister has been taking Thyroxin for about 15

years. I have heard

it can cause osteoporosis. Is that correct and would it be advisable

to change to Armour?

Thanks

Janet.

[Guest guest]

Those of you who have been told that thyroid hormone replacement

causes osteoporosis - you might want to show your doctor the following studies.

Luv - Sheila

_____________________________________________

Osteoporosis: the improvement with thyroid treatment

Svanberg E, Healey J, Mascarenhas D. Anabolic effects of

rhIGF-I/IGFBP-3 in vivo are influenced by thyroid status. Eur J Clin Invest.

2001 Apr;31(4):329-36.

THYROID THERAPY AND BONE DENSITY

Studies with

association between thyroid therapy and increased loss of bone density

Bone loss during thyroid treatment mainly occurs in HRT untreated postmenopausal women and who have a suppressed TSH, possibly being overtreated with thyroid hormones 4. Taelman P, Kaufman JM, Janssens X, Vandecauter H, Vermeulen A. Reduced forearm bone mineral content and biochemical evidence of increased bone turnover in women with euthyroid goitre treated with thyroid hormone. Clin Endocrinol (Oxf). 1990 Jul;33(1):107-175. Stall GM, S, Sokoll LJ, Dawson- B. Accelerated bone loss in hypothyroid patients overtreated with L-thyroxine. Ann Intern Med. 1990 Aug 15;113(4):265-96. Adlin EV, Maurer AH, Marks AD, Channick BJ. Bone mineral density in postmenopausal women treated with L-thyroxine. Am J Med. 1991 Mar;90(3):360-6

7.

TL, Kerrigan J, AM, Braverman LE, Baran DT. Long-term

L-thyroxine therapy is associated with decreased hip bone density in

premenopausal women. JAMA. 1988;259:3137-41

Bone loss is mainly transitory only during the first year with no increased fracture incidence8. Tremollieres F, Pouilles JM, Louvet JP, Ribot C. Transitory bone loss during substitution treatment for hypothyroidism. Results of a two year prospective study. Rev Rhum Mal Osteoartic. 1991 Dec;58(12):869-759. Ribot C, Tremollieres F, Pouilles JM, Louvet JP. Bone mineral density and thyroid hormone therapy. Clin Endocrinol (Oxf). 1990 Aug;33(2):143-53

Oestrogen

therapy neutralizes, prevents bone loss induced by corrective thyroid therapy

10. Schneider DL, Barrett-Connor

EL, Morton DJ. Thyroid hormone use and bone mineral density in elderly women.

JAMA 1994;271:1245-9

Studies

where thyroid therapy does not cause or increase loss of bone density

11. Greenspan SL,

Greenspan FS, Resnick NM, Block JE, Friedlander AL, Genant HK. Skeletal

integrity in premenopausal and postmenopausal women receiving long-term

L-thyroxine therapy Am J Med. 1991;91:5-14

12. lyn JA,

Betteridge J, Daykin J, Holder R, Oates GD, Parle JV, Lilley J, Heath DA,

Sheppard MC. Long-term thyroxine treatment and bone mineral density. Lancet.

1992 Jul 4;340(8810):9-13

13. Eulry F, Bauduceau B, Lechevalier D, Magnin J, Crozes P, Flageat J, Gautier D. Bone density in differentiated cancer of the thyroid gland treated by hormone-suppressive therapy. Study based on 51 cases. Rev Rhum Mal Osteoartic. 1992 Apr;59(4):247-5214. Grant DJ, McMurdo ME, Mole PA, Paterson CR, Davies RR. Suppressed TSH levels secondary to thyroxine replacement therapy are not associated with osteoporosis. Clin Endocrinol (Oxf). 1993 Nov;39(5):529-33.

Studies

where thyroid therapy improves bone formation

15. Svanberg E, Healey J, Mascarenhas D. Anabolic effects of rhIGF-I/IGFBP-3 in vivo are influenced by thyroid status. Eur J Clin Invest. 2001 Apr;31(4):329-36

You might like to look up some scientific articles on thyroid

replacement and osteoporosis if you are concerned.

God bless

Dawnx

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Maggie,

>

> I am also off to see Dr. P. on Friday afternoon...this will be my

> second consultation. I am not anywhere near being well yet but I

do

> feel that his treatment protocol is making me gradually

better...and he

> is such a lovely man who understands and cares - I came away

feeling

> better just to know that I wasn't going nuts!!! Friday will be the

> starting point for getting back to full health.

>

> x

> >

>

and Sheila

Thanks for your messages.I have been on this long lonely road for too

many years now.I appreciate all the help and support from the group.I

am looking forward to becoming normal again in time.

Maggie x

[Guest guest]

Hi Maggie and - you two will have to wear a flower in your

hair so you will recognise each other and can have a chat. What time are your

appointments?

Hope your appointments go well.

Luv - Sheila

I am also off to see Dr. P. on Friday afternoon...this will be my

second consultation. I am not anywhere near being well yet but I do

feel that his treatment protocol is making me gradually better...and he

is such a lovely man who understands and cares - I came away feeling

better just to know that I wasn't going nuts!!! Friday will be the

starting point for getting back to full health.

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Maggie,

>

> I am also off to see Dr. P. on Friday afternoon...this will be my

> second consultation. I am not anywhere near being well yet but I do

> feel that his treatment protocol is making me gradually better...and

he

> is such a lovely man who understands and cares - I came away feeling

> better just to know that I wasn't going nuts!!! Friday will be the

> starting point for getting back to full health.

>

> x

> >

>Hi and Maggie,

You will have so much support on this group. I have spoken to Dr P

this afternoon and will be seeing him for the second time also (when he

is next up in Yorkshire). I felt like crying after I put the phone down

but only because he is so nice.

You feel believed at last.

My friends Mum was on anti depressants for 12 years untill she moved

house and saw a new doctor who said her symptoms were that of

hypothyroidism. It is hard to believe this can happen in the fast

approaching year of 2009 but it is still happening.

I Still have a long way to go it seems but at least I am on the road.

Best of Luck to you both

Luv

Stephie

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheila,

Thanks for this, I would love to come and see you and Dr P at your

cottage but I think Leeds is the closest clinic for me to see him, so

would probably see him there. Am a bit nervous of driving where I have

not been before and everything aches if I am driving longer than about

half an hour. You never know though my daughter might drive me.

Luv

Stephie

> Stephie - Dr P is doing his next clinic at my cottage (near Skipton)

on 19th

> and 20th January 2009. If you want an appointment, please let me

know - and

>> I have spoken to Dr P

> this afternoon and will be seeing him for the second time also (when

he

> is next up in Yorkshire). I felt like crying after I put the phone

down

> but only because he is so nice.

>

> ._,___

>

[Guest guest]

Well,

we are a long way yet from January (or are we???). If you do change your mind

and your daughter will agree to drive you, please let me know.

Luv -

Sheila

Hi Sheila,

Thanks for this, I would love to come and see you and Dr P at your

cottage but I think Leeds is the closest clinic for me to see him, so

would probably see him there. Am a bit nervous of driving where I have

not been before and everything aches if I am driving longer than about

half an hour. You never know though my daughter might drive me.

Luv

Stephie

> Stephie - Dr P is doing his next clinic at my cottage (near Skipton)

on 19th

> and 20th January 2009. If you want an appointment, please let me

know - and

>> I have spoken to Dr P

> this afternoon and will be seeing him for the second time also (when

he

> is next up in Yorkshire). I felt like crying after I put the phone

down

> but only because he is so nice.

>

> ._,___

>

[Guest guest]

, this some information that I got from a fibro friend in Illinois, who went to a fibro clinic in Chicago. This has helped her with her yeast problems and some pain issues. She can feel it if she needs to go back on the diet.

If you have any questions you can email me off the board and I will see if she can give me the answers.

Sandie

Candida Hypersensitivity Questionnaire

Section A - Your Medical History Number of points is underlined

Have you been treated for acne with tetracycline, erythromycin, or any other antibiotic for 1 month or longer? 50 Have you ever taken antibiotics for any type of infection for more than 2 consecutive months, or in short courses 4 or more time in a 12 month period? 50 Have you ever taken an antibiotic-even for a single course? 6 Have you ever had prostitutes, vaginitis, or other infections or problems with your reproductive organs for for over 1 month 25Have you been pregnant: Twice 5 Once 3Have you taken birth control pills for: more than 2 years 15 2 weeks or less 6Have you taken a corticosteroid (cortisone, prednisone, medrol) by mouth/inhaler for more than 2 weeks 15 Less than 2 weeks 6 When exposed to perfumes, insecticides, or other chemicals, do you develop wheezing, burning eyes, or other forms of distress? Yes, and symptoms interfere with me performing my daily activities 20 Yes, but symptoms are mild and don’t interfere with my activities 5 Are your symptoms worse on damp or humid days, or in moldy places? 20 Have you ever had a fungal infection (jock itch , athletes foot, or nail/skin which has been difficult to treat and lasted: 2 months 20 Less than 2 months 10 Do you crave any of the following: Sugar 10 Bread 10 Alcoholic beverages 10Does tobacco smoke cause you wheezing, burning eyes, or any other problems? 10

Total score Section A__________

Section B; Major symptomsFor symptom, please enter the appropriate score. If the symptom is:Never present=0 Occasional/mild=3 Frequent or mod sever=6 Severe/disabling=9Fatigue/lethargy ____ Diarrhea ____Feeling of being drained ____ Bloating/belching/gas ____Poor memory ____ Vaginal burning, itch or discharge ____Feeling spacey, unreal ____ Chilling ____ Difficulty making decisions ____ Prostitutes ____ Numbness, burning, tingling ____ Impotence ____ Insomnia ____ Loss of sexual desire or sensation ____ Muscle aches ____ Pain/swelling in joints ____ Premenstrual tension ____ Abdominal pain ____ Constipation ____ Muscle weakness/paralysis ____Cramps, menstrual irregularities ____ Attacks of anxiety or crying ____Cold hands/feet or over all Shaking/irritable when hungry ____ Endometriosis or infertility ____ Total score Section B ______

Section C; Minor Symptoms (many also occur in patients without candida syndrome)For each symptom, please enter the appropriate score, If the symptom is: ever present=0 Occasional/mild=1 Frequent or mod sever=2 Sever/disabling=3Drowsiness ____ Mouth rash/blisters ____Irritability/jitteriness ____ Bad breath ____Incoordination ____ Foot/body odor that washing doesn’t help ____Inability to concentrate ____ Headaches ____ Frequent mood swings ____ Nasal congestion, postnasaldrip ____ Sore Throat ____ Pain/tenderness in chest ____Nasal itch ____ Easy bruising ____ Chronic rash or itching ____ Laryngitis, loss of voice ____ Wheezing, short of breath ____ Cough, recurrent bronchitis ____Psoriasis or recurrent hives ____ Recurrent ear infections/fluid ____ Urinary frequency, urgency, leakag ____ Spots in front of eyes ____ Indigestion/heart burn ____ Burning/tearing of eyes ____Food sensitivity/intolerance ____ Burning on urination ____ Mucus in stools ____ Rectal itching ____Dry mouth/throat ____ Ear pain or deafness ____ Total score Section C ______

Total from section A _____Total from section B _____Total from section C _____Grand total (A+B+C) _____

Results:

* Candida syndrome is almost certainly present if: Female>160 Male>140 (in this group, the benefits of treatment will almost certainly be worth the difficulties involved)

* Candida syndrome is probably present if : Female>120 Male>90 (in this group, the benefits of treatment may or may not outweigh the difficulties involved)

* Candida syndrome might be present if: Female>60 Male>40

* Candida syndrome is probably not present if Female>50 Male>30 (in these groups, the benefits of treatment usually aren’t worth the difficulties involved)

CANDIDA DIET - Yeast overgrowth syndrome

This diet is for only 6 months, you can do anything for 6 months.

I have stayed on a modified version since May of 2002, because I feel so great and I'm still loosing weight. I eat well and never go hungry or suffer.

Three thing you should get from the Health Food Store. To kill off the excess yeast, CAPRYL - take 6 twice a day. To rebuild the good bacteria in your system - ACIDOPHILUS - take 1 a day. You will find the Acidophilus in a frig. At the store and you should keep it in yours.

Also from the Health Food store, get the sweetener STEVIA.

Everything should be kept in the fridg. No left over food for more than 3 days (they start to grow things). This includes all meds., bread, peanut butter, fruit, everything.

EAT SEVERAL SMALL MEALS, DON'T SKIP ANY MEALS.

EAT FREELY All meats & eggs No fried or breaded meat. No bologna, hot dogs, ham, bacon * Low starch vegetables (good) Celery, cabbage, broccoli, cauliflower, leafy greens, Brussels sprouts, squash, asparagus, radishes, bell peppers, onions, leeks, garlic, sprouts, tomatoes, green beans, Romaine lettuce

*Moderately low starch vegetables (ok) Carrots, beets, rutabaga, turnips, parsnips, eggplant, artichoke, avocado, bamboo sprouts

EAT TO MAINTAIN ENERGY

Starchy vegetables Potatoes, sweet potatoes, yams, winter squash, (acorn, butternut) Legumes lentils, split peas, black eyed peas, beans

Whole grains (make sure it's totally whole-grain, w/no refined flour) long cooking brown rice, wild rice, millet, buckwheat, oats, barley, corn, rye, wheat, whole grain products (pastas, cereals, etc.) you can get these in most grocery stores

Velveeta cheese in moderate amounts

DAIRY (in moderation ONLY) because milk sugar feeds the yeast Eggs, plain un-sweetened yogurt, butter 1/4 c. Cottage cheese, mozzarella, string cheese, sour cream, rice, soy or almond milk (only enough to cover your cereal) PLAIN-READ THE LABEL,CHECK FOR SUGAR

CONTENT

(less desirable) Mild cheddar, gouda, Monterey jack

(avoid) All other kinds of cheese and dairy products including, but not limited to; sharp cheddar, brie, blue, parmesan, Swiss asiagio

CEREAL

Old fashioned Oat Meal or Shreaded Wheat (only)

SALAD

Romaine lettuce, no dressing (unless you make it yourself, with no vinegar or sugar, etc.) Put all the veggies you want in it.

FRUITS - (No more than 2 portions a day, at separate times) Small amounts (slightly sweet) Berries, grapefruit, fresh figs Smaller amounts (more sweet) Melons, apples, pears, plums, peaches, oranges, nectarines, grapes, bananas, apricots, cherries, pineapple, sweet berries (strawberry, blackberry,) grapefruit juice, very diluted - other fruit juices

AVOID (most sweet) Dried fruits, straight fruit juices

YEAST CONTAINING FOODS (do not eat)

Breads, brewer's yeast, enriched flour, beer/wine, vinegar, (use lemon juice instead) prepared salad dressings, aged cheese, fermented foods (anything pickled, miso, soy sauce) Mushrooms, canned soups/juices, yeast containing vitamins/minerals

CONCENTRATED SWEETS (avoid)

Refined sugar, prepared sweets, maple syrup, molasses, malt syrup, honey, dried fruit

COMMON DIETARY HEALTH HAZARDS

Sugar, refined flour, Mayo, catsup, mustard, fried foods, fast foods, junk foods, soft drinks, Soft drinks, caffeine (one cut of coffee or tea a day is probably OK) Margarine, refined oils, chemical additives

May or may not be all right

Coffee, nuts, peanut butter, non-aged cheese, (including cottage cheese)

SNACK IDEAS

Tuna salad, or chicken salad, on a triscuit crackers (use home make Mayo. Only) Nuts or seeds (if tolerated) Natural (no sugar added) peanut butter and celery Carrots, triscuts Small portion of any previous meal foods Brown rice-rice cakes and string cheese Green salad with meat or beans ___________________________

OPTIONS FOR EATING AWAY FROM HOME

Tacco Bell/Mexican food: Have a burrito open faced and eat the contents with a spoon. Refried beans, chicken soup (no noodles), plain steak and chicken. 's: Grilled chicken (no sauce, no bun), baked potato, cheese and broccoli, chili, Salad (no dressing or your own oil and lemon juice), burger, plain, no bun

Italian: chicken, veal, steak (be careful of sauces), minestrone soup, veggies, salad ( your own oil and lemon dressing, or no dressing)

__________________________

If you like carbonated beverages, please use only DIET RITE products - they contain no aspartame, which aggravates many peoples' symptoms.

If you want a sweetener, use only STEVIA, a non-carbohydrate plant derived product that you can get at any Health Food Store. It is 10 sweeter than sugar but tastes just like it. DO NOT USE THE SWEETENERS FROM THE REG. STORE.

You can get from the reg. grocery store - whole wheat pasta, sugar free peanut butter, rice & soy milk. ____________________________

EXAMPLE OF YOUR SHOPPING LIST

long cooking brown rice chicken, steaks, beef roast, turkey breast, fish, eggs Stevia sweetener alternative grain like buckwheat or amaranth Triscuit crackers fresh vegetables (lots) carrots, Romaine lettuce, celery, spinach, etc. Bertolli olive oil or Flax seed oil Barlean's cold pressed Flax Seed oil Lemons and lemon juiceSalsa peanut butter (no sugar added) frozen Boca burgers Shredded Wheat cereal Old Fashioned Oat Meal Tuna in a bag Velveeta cheeseSoft Taco shells

Remember, this diet is for only 6 months. You can do anything for 6 months.

GOOD LUCK. Stick to it like a religion and it will work for you. I saw results within a week.

Warning

When you first start this diet you might feel worse. This is caused from the yeast cells dying off by the thousands. It is short term, depending on how severe your Candida is. I stored over 400 on the questionnaire so it took me a couple of weeks to get over it. When this does pass you will feel like your getting a breath of fresh air.

You should talk to your Dr. Before you start this or any diet. Make sure you don’t have any other health problems that would prohibit you from trying this diet. I can’t do for you what the clinic in Chicago could do, but I can get you started.

-- New to Group

Hi,,

My name is and I have posted once or twice since becoming a

member last week.

I suffer from so many things these days I don't know which end is up.

I am currently haveing a major flare and I mean hot episode especially

in my bowels, gut, and overall especially my neck and upper back are

on fire.

I have tried Herbs , vitamins, everything I have been told and still I

have Chronic Yeast infections and today pain all over and Interctisial

Cystits. You would never know I am a Registered Nurse of 29 years.

I can hardly spell the medical words anymore.

Very scarey.

At this time I am homebound , I have never been lazy, always worked

hard for my kids and yes I believe the constant stress of working

soooo hard and struggling with one trauma after another of the major

stressors of life has caused this :

I was traumatically injured in so many ways in August 2005.

What to do with sooo much inflammation???

I thought I knew where to start and now I am baffled.

I found out today that B vitamins will increase the urinary

cystistitis pain. The Thymus Booster is not for people with autoimmune

disorders. I just ordered these thru I herb from the online program of

Dr. Tetilbaum.

What would you do????

Peace and Hope thru this year and the next.