Guest guest Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Hi Sue! My advise on improved poopies is to experiment with both quantity and type of fiber. I tried for over a year to embrace the citrucel, and finally settled on Benefiber clear. It is not Dr R's first choice, but we need our fiber and coating action and have to do what works to get it daily. He wants us to watch particularly for " hidden sugars " and that I found in most fiber except citrucel. I put the clear in anything and never know it's there. Psyllium husk, which is an alternative in the manual, is just metamucil by its generic name from what I've read on labels. It cramps me but some find it the only way to " go " . (Sorry, never can resist a pun.) It's important to find the right daily quantity for yourself as well. Since fiber is a regulator and not a laxative, the answer may be more or less than the recommendation for any individual. Since fiber traps fat, I have worked up to four to six tablespoons a day with no adverse effect. Be aware (if you aren't) that too much too fast will often cause cramps, diarrhea and gas. You have to increase gradually. The other thing I identified as a major issue for me was juices. Making a juice based smoothie every morning just totally defeated all efforts to regulate the action. For me, fruit smoothies are an occasional treat, not a daily ritual. I can eat all the fresh, frozen or canned fruit I care to eat, but juice causes immediate havoc for me. The exception is tomato or V8, which is fine. For me, there are no solid trouble foods (except the well documented fats and sweets) but many of us find dairy, especially ice cream, will provoke action unexpectedly :-) It might help to keep a food diary for a few days to identify any problem foods causing your problem. Getting the fiber right and keeping it right is a challenge, but it really pays off in so many ways. Also, I believe others have reported diarrhea from actigal, so the problem may resolve itself with that change, too. I lost so slowly I never reached the 10 pounds per month to start actigall, so anything I say on that subject is just gossip. Be well! And keep matches in the ladies loo. Tj > > .....are formed stools in my future? Just when exactly will I stop > pooping soup? Its kinda driving me nuts. I am a month out today and that > is the only thing that hasn't resolved and is causing me issues. I can't > go back to work next week having to get up in the middle of client meetings > all the time. And yes - I am taking my citrucel. > > I was also having big nausea & dizziness issues up until last week when > thru process of elimination I figured it was the actigall - so I have > stopped taking it. I have a few calls & emails into Dr. R & Sandy, but I > haven't heard back. Hopefully I will hear back after the holiday season > craziness is over next week, but I am hoping he has an alternative I can > use. I won't take take the actigall again, its just not worth feeling that > bad. I am unfortunately super sensitive to alot of meds. Any advice out > there? > > Sue in NY > Dr R 11/29/06 > 280/256/130? > Surg date/Now/someday? > 7 ft bypass > > > > Re: WANTED: Agent Orange! > > > > > In a message dated 12/30/2006 6:50:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > sassy37cat@... writes: > > LOL! Very good Joanie! EMBRACE THE ORANGE! A great New Years resolution > for Newbies! > > in Fla > > Regarding the agent orange. Most people seem to think it stops after the > first 4 or 5 months. Not true. I know when I am having an agent orange > bowel > movement and a non agent orange bowel movement. We may not be able to see > it > like we did in the beginning but trust me it is there. It is now > incorporated in the formed stool. It may not be as orange as it was but it > has a > distinct odor. It smells like burnt oil. I know this is gross but we need > to > understand that our body is still getting rid of extra fat and we are not > all of > a sudden beginning to store all the fat we might take in sometimes. I know > when it is present and when it isn't and I know when to expect it and when > I > know I am being good and won't see any. That is how it is with me. Any > other > comments out there on this wonderful subject? > > > 5/17/2006 > Dr. Rutledge > 246/238.8/174/140 = 72lbs lost > high/pre-op/now/goal > 34 minutes/6 foot bypass > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Hi Sue, TJ has great advice. I agree with her on the fiber. I finally found that taking two fiber Metamucil pills gave me the correct amount of fiber. The powder didn't seem to produce the desired effect and the pills are much easier to take. It was a little bit of a process to figure out what worked for me. I too had nausea, diarrhea, and dizziness with the actigall and stopped taking it. I haven't had any issues but I wonder if that is because I had my gall bladder removed years ago. Good luck and keep trying...you will figure out what is best for you. Danee' in Oregon 12-14-05 270/135 Tj <fairywebmother62905@...> wrote: Hi Sue! My advise on improved poopies is to experiment with both quantity and type of fiber. I tried for over a year to embrace the citrucel, and finally settled on Benefiber clear. It is not Dr R's first choice, but we need our fiber and coating action and have to do what works to get it daily. He wants us to watch particularly for " hidden sugars " and that I found in most fiber except citrucel. I put the clear in anything and never know it's there. Psyllium husk, which is an alternative in the manual, is just metamucil by its generic name from what I've read on labels. It cramps me but some find it the only way to " go " . (Sorry, never can resist a pun.) It's important to find the right daily quantity for yourself as well. Since fiber is a regulator and not a laxative, the answer may be more or less than the recommendation for any individual. Since fiber traps fat, I have worked up to four to six tablespoons a day with no adverse effect. Be aware (if you aren't) that too much too fast will often cause cramps, diarrhea and gas. You have to increase gradually. The other thing I identified as a major issue for me was juices. Making a juice based smoothie every morning just totally defeated all efforts to regulate the action. For me, fruit smoothies are an occasional treat, not a daily ritual. I can eat all the fresh, frozen or canned fruit I care to eat, but juice causes immediate havoc for me. The exception is tomato or V8, which is fine. For me, there are no solid trouble foods (except the well documented fats and sweets) but many of us find dairy, especially ice cream, will provoke action unexpectedly :-) It might help to keep a food diary for a few days to identify any problem foods causing your problem. Getting the fiber right and keeping it right is a challenge, but it really pays off in so many ways. Also, I believe others have reported diarrhea from actigal, so the problem may resolve itself with that change, too. I lost so slowly I never reached the 10 pounds per month to start actigall, so anything I say on that subject is just gossip. Be well! And keep matches in the ladies loo. Tj > > .....are formed stools in my future? Just when exactly will I stop > pooping soup? Its kinda driving me nuts. I am a month out today and that > is the only thing that hasn't resolved and is causing me issues. I can't > go back to work next week having to get up in the middle of client meetings > all the time. And yes - I am taking my citrucel. > > I was also having big nausea & dizziness issues up until last week when > thru process of elimination I figured it was the actigall - so I have > stopped taking it. I have a few calls & emails into Dr. R & Sandy, but I > haven't heard back. Hopefully I will hear back after the holiday season > craziness is over next week, but I am hoping he has an alternative I can > use. I won't take take the actigall again, its just not worth feeling that > bad. I am unfortunately super sensitive to alot of meds. Any advice out > there? > > Sue in NY > Dr R 11/29/06 > 280/256/130? > Surg date/Now/someday? > 7 ft bypass > > > > Re: WANTED: Agent Orange! > > > > > In a message dated 12/30/2006 6:50:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > sassy37cat@... writes: > > LOL! Very good Joanie! EMBRACE THE ORANGE! A great New Years resolution > for Newbies! > > in Fla > > Regarding the agent orange. Most people seem to think it stops after the > first 4 or 5 months. Not true. I know when I am having an agent orange > bowel > movement and a non agent orange bowel movement. We may not be able to see > it > like we did in the beginning but trust me it is there. It is now > incorporated in the formed stool. It may not be as orange as it was but it > has a > distinct odor. It smells like burnt oil. I know this is gross but we need > to > understand that our body is still getting rid of extra fat and we are not > all of > a sudden beginning to store all the fat we might take in sometimes. I know > when it is present and when it isn't and I know when to expect it and when > I > know I am being good and won't see any. That is how it is with me. Any > other > comments out there on this wonderful subject? > > > 5/17/2006 > Dr. Rutledge > 246/238.8/174/140 = 72lbs lost > high/pre-op/now/goal > 34 minutes/6 foot bypass > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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