Guest guest Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Personally, I would just let it resolve itself. It will if you are careful. Whacking it with a sledge hammer is something I would expect from a Dr. Grog Stonehead. It amazes me that this is the type of advice still given out by medicos even today. Dang and they are even advising taking paracetamol too. How utterly barbaric. Paracetamol is our everyday liver rotting and destroying acetominophen and if it isn't busy destroying your liver it will your kidneys. You might consider wrapping your wrist using a fomentation of castor oil maybe mixed with a little comfrey or burdock. Make it warm though but not uncomfortably so. Sleep with it on if possible. Don Sharyn E. Cerniglia wrote: > > Vince and I had dinner with two nurses and a doctor last night (just a > coincidence…one of our neighbors is a nurse and her husband is our > landscaper, and we joined them for dinner with a co-worker of the > wife’s and her husband, the doctor)…and the immediate consensus was > that my little bump is a ganglia. That’s a relief, since it’s > harmless. They also suggested hitting it with a heavy object to > dissolve it (they really did!)…other than that, it may resolve itself > or I could elect surgery (NOT!) to get rid of it. > > > > Below is the information from a web site about ganglia, which actually > supports the use of a heavy object. I can’t see myself doing that. > Anyone have any other suggestions, other than just letting it resolve > itself? > > > > Sharyn > > ***** > > Ganglia > > > > What are ganglia? > > > > Ganglia are swellings that occur around joints, the most common sites > being the wrist and ankle. > > > > What causes ganglia and who is at risk? > > > > The origin of ganglia is uncertain but they are probably caused by a > breakdown of synovial tissue. This is the specialised tissue that > lines most joints. It is smooth and produces a fluid (synovial fluid) > that lubricates the joint, allowing it to move freely. This synovial > tissue also lines the sheaths that surround tendons. Tendons are the > tough, fibrous structures that connect muscles to bone. It is the > breakdown of the synovial tissue of tendon sheaths that gives rise to > most ganglia. This often occurs on its own but may be triggered by an > injury. > > > > What are the common symptoms and complications of ganglia? > > > > Ganglia are among the most common lumps to arise on the body. They > occur most commonly around the wrist but also along the fingers, > around the ankle and on top of the foot. They are usually round in > shape and vary in size from minute pin-head lumps affecting the > fingers to pea-sized or larger lumps affecting the wrist or ankle. > They are firm and rubbery in texture and may move freely under the > skin. They are usually painless but the tiny ganglia that affect the > fingers may be very tender. They are filled with a jelly-like fluid > and can slowly increase in size, but they only rarely become very > large. As ganglia are completely harmless, the most common cause for > concern is how they look. > > > > What is the treatment for ganglia? > > > > Ganglia may disappear spontaneously. As they are usually painless and > completely harmless, most people once reassured will not require any > specific treatment. If their cosmetic appearance is cause for concern > or the ganglia are painful, they may be removed surgically in a simple > operation. > > > > Surgery is the only effective treatment for ganglia. Traditionally, > ganglia were burst by hitting them with a heavy object, usually the > family bible. Today, if they do not resolve spontaneously they can be > removed surgically. Usually, the operation will be performed as a day > case. This means that you will be admitted to hospital but allowed to > go home the same day. A general anaesthetic is most commonly used, > which means that you will be put to sleep for the operation. You will > not be allowed to eat or drink for six to eight hours before the > operation. > > > > If the ganglion is small or if you have a serious heart or lung > condition, the operation can be performed under local anaesthetic, in > which case you will remain awake and you will not need to fast beforehand. > > > > When you arrive at the hospital you will see a nurse or doctor who > will ask you questions about your general health to make sure you are > fit enough for the procedure. If you are undergoing a general > anaesthetic, a doctor (often the anaesthetist) will examine your heart > and lungs. You must tell the doctor if you have had any allergic > reactions to drugs in the past. You will then be asked to sign a > consent form stating that you understand the procedure and the risks > involved. > > > > If the operation is to be performed under general anaesthetic, you may > be given a 'pre-med' injection beforehand. You should arrange to have > someone to take you home if you have had a general anaesthetic as you > will be a little drowsy for a few hours after the operation. > > > > Common sites of ganglia (picture didn’t display) > > > > Complications of surgery > > > > This is a simple and safe operation and complications are rare. If you > have had a general anaesthetic, you may feel nauseous afterwards. > Chest infections and thrombosis (blood clots in the legs) are possible > complications of any general anaesthetic, but they are more likely if > you smoke or are very overweight. > > > > As with any operation there is the risk of infection and bleeding from > the wound. Infection will cause increasing tenderness, redness and > swelling of the wound site. You should consult your doctor immediately > if this occurs. There will be some soreness and tenderness of the > wound site for a few days after the operation and simple pain-killers > such as paracetamol may be required. > > > > If the operation has been performed on your wrist and your job > involves much hand work, you may need to take several days off work. > You should use your hands normally during this period of time, even if > this is a little uncomfortable, to prevent the affected wrist from > becoming stiff. If non-dissolving stitches have been used, these will > need to be removed by your GP after seven to 10 days. > > > > What is the outcome of having a ganglion? > > > > Ganglia often resolve on their own and so if not painful you may be > best advised to wait and see. If you decide to go ahead with surgery, > you should be aware that the ganglion may recur at the same site in > the future, despite adequate removal. > > > > http://hcd2.bupa.co.uk/fact_sheets/html/ganglia.html > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Try a castor oil pack. Suzi"Sharyn E. Cerniglia" <sharyn.cerniglia@...> wrote: Vince and I had dinner with two nurses and a doctor last night (just a coincidence…one of our neighbors is a nurse and her husband is our landscaper, and we joined them for dinner with a co-worker of the wife’s and her husband, the doctor)…and the immediate consensus was that my little bump is a ganglia. That’s a relief, since it’s harmless. They also suggested hitting it with a heavy object to dissolve it (they really did!)…other than that, it may resolve itself or I could elect surgery (NOT!) to get rid of it. Below is the information from a web site about ganglia, which actually supports the use of a heavy object. I can’t see myself doing that. Anyone have any other suggestions, other than just letting it resolve itself? Sharyn ***** Ganglia What are ganglia? Ganglia are swellings that occur around joints, the most common sites being the wrist and ankle. What causes ganglia and who is at risk? The origin of ganglia is uncertain but they are probably caused by a breakdown of synovial tissue. This is the specialised tissue that lines most joints. It is smooth and produces a fluid (synovial fluid) that lubricates the joint, allowing it to move freely. This synovial tissue also lines the sheaths that surround tendons. Tendons are the tough, fibrous structures that connect muscles to bone. It is the breakdown of the synovial tissue of tendon sheaths that gives rise to most ganglia. This often occurs on its own but may be triggered by an injury. What are the common symptoms and complications of ganglia? Ganglia are among the most common lumps to arise on the body. They occur most commonly around the wrist but also along the fingers, around the ankle and on top of the foot. They are usually round in shape and vary in size from minute pin-head lumps affecting the fingers to pea-sized or larger lumps affecting the wrist or ankle. They are firm and rubbery in texture and may move freely under the skin. They are usually painless but the tiny ganglia that affect the fingers may be very tender. They are filled with a jelly-like fluid and can slowly increase in size, but they only rarely become very large. As ganglia are completely harmless, the most common cause for concern is how they look. What is the treatment for ganglia? Ganglia may disappear spontaneously. As they are usually painless and completely harmless, most people once reassured will not require any specific treatment. If their cosmetic appearance is cause for concern or the ganglia are painful, they may be removed surgically in a simple operation. Surgery is the only effective treatment for ganglia. Traditionally, ganglia were burst by hitting them with a heavy object, usually the family bible. Today, if they do not resolve spontaneously they can be removed surgically. Usually, the operation will be performed as a day case. This means that you will be admitted to hospital but allowed to go home the same day. A general anaesthetic is most commonly used, which means that you will be put to sleep for the operation. You will not be allowed to eat or drink for six to eight hours before the operation. If the ganglion is small or if you have a serious heart or lung condition, the operation can be performed under local anaesthetic, in which case you will remain awake and you will not need to fast beforehand. When you arrive at the hospital you will see a nurse or doctor who will ask you questions about your general health to make sure you are fit enough for the procedure. If you are undergoing a general anaesthetic, a doctor (often the anaesthetist) will examine your heart and lungs. You must tell the doctor if you have had any allergic reactions to drugs in the past. You will then be asked to sign a consent form stating that you understand the procedure and the risks involved. If the operation is to be performed under general anaesthetic, you may be given a 'pre-med' injection beforehand. You should arrange to have someone to take you home if you have had a general anaesthetic as you will be a little drowsy for a few hours after the operation. Common sites of ganglia (picture didn’t display) Complications of surgery This is a simple and safe operation and complications are rare. If you have had a general anaesthetic, you may feel nauseous afterwards. Chest infections and thrombosis (blood clots in the legs) are possible complications of any general anaesthetic, but they are more likely if you smoke or are very overweight. As with any operation there is the risk of infection and bleeding from the wound. Infection will cause increasing tenderness, redness and swelling of the wound site. You should consult your doctor immediately if this occurs. There will be some soreness and tenderness of the wound site for a few days after the operation and simple pain-killers such as paracetamol may be required. If the operation has been performed on your wrist and your job involves much hand work, you may need to take several days off work. You should use your hands normally during this period of time, even if this is a little uncomfortable, to prevent the affected wrist from becoming stiff. If non-dissolving stitches have been used, these will need to be removed by your GP after seven to 10 days. What is the outcome of having a ganglion? Ganglia often resolve on their own and so if not painful you may be best advised to wait and see. If you decide to go ahead with surgery, you should be aware that the ganglion may recur at the same site in the future, despite adequate removal. http://hcd2.bupa.co.uk/fact_sheets/html/ganglia.html Suzi What is a weed? 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Guest guest Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Actually, what was recommended was the " family bible. " <VBG> I'm inclined to let it run its course. It's not painful, nor does it get in the way of anything (not on a finger where it's constantly being bumped or anything). Sharyn -----Original Message----- From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Don Eitner Personally, I would just let it resolve itself. It will if you are careful. Whacking it with a sledge hammer is something I would expect from a Dr. Grog Stonehead. It amazes me that this is the type of advice still given out by medicos even today. Dang and they are even advising taking paracetamol too. How utterly barbaric. Paracetamol is our everyday liver rotting and destroying acetominophen and if it isn't busy destroying your liver it will your kidneys. You might consider wrapping your wrist using a fomentation of castor oil maybe mixed with a little comfrey or burdock. Make it warm though but not uncomfortably so. Sleep with it on if possible. Don Sharyn E. Cerniglia wrote: > > Vince and I had dinner with two nurses and a doctor last night (just a > coincidence.one of our neighbors is a nurse and her husband is our > landscaper, and we joined them for dinner with a co-worker of the > wife's and her husband, the doctor).and the immediate consensus was > that my little bump is a ganglia. That's a relief, since it's > harmless. They also suggested hitting it with a heavy object to > dissolve it (they really did!).other than that, it may resolve itself > or I could elect surgery (NOT!) to get rid of it. > > > > Below is the information from a web site about ganglia, which actually > supports the use of a heavy object. I can't see myself doing that. > Anyone have any other suggestions, other than just letting it resolve > itself? > > > > Sharyn > > ***** > > Ganglia > > > > What are ganglia? > > > > Ganglia are swellings that occur around joints, the most common sites > being the wrist and ankle. > > > > What causes ganglia and who is at risk? > > > > The origin of ganglia is uncertain but they are probably caused by a > breakdown of synovial tissue. This is the specialised tissue that > lines most joints. It is smooth and produces a fluid (synovial fluid) > that lubricates the joint, allowing it to move freely. This synovial > tissue also lines the sheaths that surround tendons. Tendons are the > tough, fibrous structures that connect muscles to bone. It is the > breakdown of the synovial tissue of tendon sheaths that gives rise to > most ganglia. This often occurs on its own but may be triggered by an > injury. > > > > What are the common symptoms and complications of ganglia? > > > > Ganglia are among the most common lumps to arise on the body. They > occur most commonly around the wrist but also along the fingers, > around the ankle and on top of the foot. They are usually round in > shape and vary in size from minute pin-head lumps affecting the > fingers to pea-sized or larger lumps affecting the wrist or ankle. > They are firm and rubbery in texture and may move freely under the > skin. They are usually painless but the tiny ganglia that affect the > fingers may be very tender. They are filled with a jelly-like fluid > and can slowly increase in size, but they only rarely become very > large. As ganglia are completely harmless, the most common cause for > concern is how they look. > > > > What is the treatment for ganglia? > > > > Ganglia may disappear spontaneously. As they are usually painless and > completely harmless, most people once reassured will not require any > specific treatment. If their cosmetic appearance is cause for concern > or the ganglia are painful, they may be removed surgically in a simple > operation. > > > > Surgery is the only effective treatment for ganglia. Traditionally, > ganglia were burst by hitting them with a heavy object, usually the > family bible. Today, if they do not resolve spontaneously they can be > removed surgically. Usually, the operation will be performed as a day > case. This means that you will be admitted to hospital but allowed to > go home the same day. A general anaesthetic is most commonly used, > which means that you will be put to sleep for the operation. You will > not be allowed to eat or drink for six to eight hours before the > operation. > > > > If the ganglion is small or if you have a serious heart or lung > condition, the operation can be performed under local anaesthetic, in > which case you will remain awake and you will not need to fast beforehand. > > > > When you arrive at the hospital you will see a nurse or doctor who > will ask you questions about your general health to make sure you are > fit enough for the procedure. If you are undergoing a general > anaesthetic, a doctor (often the anaesthetist) will examine your heart > and lungs. You must tell the doctor if you have had any allergic > reactions to drugs in the past. You will then be asked to sign a > consent form stating that you understand the procedure and the risks > involved. > > > > If the operation is to be performed under general anaesthetic, you may > be given a 'pre-med' injection beforehand. You should arrange to have > someone to take you home if you have had a general anaesthetic as you > will be a little drowsy for a few hours after the operation. > > > > Common sites of ganglia (picture didn't display) > > > > Complications of surgery > > > > This is a simple and safe operation and complications are rare. If you > have had a general anaesthetic, you may feel nauseous afterwards. > Chest infections and thrombosis (blood clots in the legs) are possible > complications of any general anaesthetic, but they are more likely if > you smoke or are very overweight. > > > > As with any operation there is the risk of infection and bleeding from > the wound. Infection will cause increasing tenderness, redness and > swelling of the wound site. You should consult your doctor immediately > if this occurs. There will be some soreness and tenderness of the > wound site for a few days after the operation and simple pain-killers > such as paracetamol may be required. > > > > If the operation has been performed on your wrist and your job > involves much hand work, you may need to take several days off work. > You should use your hands normally during this period of time, even if > this is a little uncomfortable, to prevent the affected wrist from > becoming stiff. If non-dissolving stitches have been used, these will > need to be removed by your GP after seven to 10 days. > > > > What is the outcome of having a ganglion? > > > > Ganglia often resolve on their own and so if not painful you may be > best advised to wait and see. If you decide to go ahead with surgery, > you should be aware that the ganglion may recur at the same site in > the future, despite adequate removal. > > > > http://hcd2.bupa.co.uk/fact_sheets/html/ganglia.html > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Luckily, I'm allergic to acetaminophen in all its forms (would never make a vicodin addict<G>). It makes me violently ill. Sharyn -----Original Message----- From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Don Eitner Dang and they are even advising taking paracetamol too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 I believe that if you have them removed they grow back in many cases. Suzi Suzi What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. health/ http://suziesgoats.wholefoodfarmacy.com/ http://360./suziesgoats Be a PS3 game guru.Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 LOL, Don! Yes, the old family bible could well be compared to a sledge hammer – emotionally speaking, if nothing else.<G> We don’t have a bible of any sort in this house, at least not the Christian religious kind. Sharyn From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Don Eitner Bible, Sledge hammer, not a whole lot of difference unless your family bible happens to be one of those dinky little 2 x 3, if that big, bibles that were popular at some point in my childhood school years. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 If you purchase a Bible, get an old one, the newer ones have been tampered with to fit a political agenda. > > LOL, Don! Yes, the old family bible could well be compared to a sledge > hammer - emotionally speaking, if nothing else.<G> > > > > We don't have a bible of any sort in this house, at least not the Christian > religious kind. > > > > Sharyn > > > > _____ > > From: health > [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Don Eitner > > > > Bible, Sledge hammer, not a whole lot of difference unless your family bible > happens to be one of those dinky little 2 x 3, if that big, bibles that were > popular at some point in my childhood school years. :-) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 So have the old ones. All bibles have been tampered with since the Council of Nicea in 300 someodd AD. tempo33x wrote: > If you purchase a Bible, get an old one, the newer ones have been > tampered with to fit a political agenda. > > > > > > >> LOL, Don! Yes, the old family bible could well be compared to a >> > sledge > >> hammer - emotionally speaking, if nothing else.<G> >> >> >> >> We don't have a bible of any sort in this house, at least not the >> > Christian > >> religious kind. >> >> >> >> Sharyn >> >> >> >> _____ >> >> From: health >> [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Don >> > Eitner > >> >> Bible, Sledge hammer, not a whole lot of difference unless your >> > family bible > >> happens to be one of those dinky little 2 x 3, if that big, bibles >> > that were > >> popular at some point in my childhood school years. :-) >> >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Don't worry about the bump on your wrist - I had one and it got quite large about the size of a pea or larger and got very hard I was thinking that maybe it was a bone spur or calcium buildup. No pain or soreness but did grow quite a bit. With all this talk about bumps I was looking to see how mine was doing and it is gone completely. It took about 6 months for it to go away but go away it did do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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