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Has anyone ever tried Pau D'Arco? Forgive me if the spelling is off? I

have a bottle of it around here somewhere and I can't remember why I

got it exactly, but have been looking for something to dry up this

filim like mucus (like drainage) and for some reason I thought of

this ? beats me as to why! Jina

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Hi Jina,

Nope, your spelling is right on. Describe your mucus discharge. Where is

it coming from? What color is it? How long has this been going on?

Don

jina572005 wrote:

> Has anyone ever tried Pau D'Arco? Forgive me if the spelling is off? I

> have a bottle of it around here somewhere and I can't remember why I

> got it exactly, but have been looking for something to dry up this

> filim like mucus (like drainage) and for some reason I thought of

> this ? beats me as to why! Jina

>

>

>

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Sharon, what test did you do, Pro-lab or another one. I would call the lab that

you were suppose to send it to, or ask Doug and Carl, or Dr. Thrasher. Darlene

Sharon <shha2002@...> wrote: I did a mold

check in my basement and left the petri dish there for

over two weeks. It was okay at 48 hours, 72 hours and 96 hours but now

it has mold on it. What does this mean?

Thanks,

Sharon

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It was Pro-Lab. I believe it's been in my basement for three weeks.

I couldn't see anything at 48 hrs., 72 hrs., or 96 hrs. I should have

thrown it away but I didn't. Now I'm really worried. It had green

mold and a hairy mold.

Oh boy.

Sharon Hanson

I did a

mold check in my basement and left the petri dish there for

> over two weeks. It was okay at 48 hours, 72 hours and 96 hours

but now

> it has mold on it. What does this mean?

>

> Thanks,

> Sharon

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Sharon,

More details are needed. And I'm not sure from what you wrote but it

sounds like you left the lid off for 2 weeks. If so, how much longer

after 4 days did the mold appear?

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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> I did a mold check in my basement and left the petri dish there for

> over two weeks. It was okay at 48 hours, 72 hours and 96 hours but now

> it has mold on it. What does this mean?

>

> Thanks,

> Sharon

>

>

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

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I left the lid on after the initial first hour as the directions

indicate. I did not take the lid off again. I put it in the

basement around December 13th so today January 1, 2008 my daughter

brings it upstairs and it has two at least and maybe three different

things growing in it. One is hairy and is black on the bottom and

the other is like little balls of green. The other possible thing

growing is some white specks. It's scary. It has me worried but as I

said nothing was growing at 48 hrs, 72 hrs. or 96 hrs. Also I

checked at a week and there was nothing growing at that time. I

should have thrown it away after the test was complete. It's just my

brain doesn't work right lately and although I'm feeling better I

have been adrenal insufficient for two weeks but I'm not taking

steroids and I have been able to tolerate the adrenal insufficiency

without steroids but it affects my memory and being able to function.

I'm not sure if this matters but we did move in some pellets for the

pellet stove.

Thanks Carl and thanks for the drain tip. Even I can take apart the

drain and clean that out.

--- In , " Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...>

wrote:

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> Sharon,

>

> More details are needed. And I'm not sure from what you wrote but

it

> sounds like you left the lid off for 2 weeks. If so, how much

longer

> after 4 days did the mold appear?

>

> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

>

> -----

>

> > I did a mold check in my basement and left the petri dish there

for

> > over two weeks. It was okay at 48 hours, 72 hours and 96 hours

but now

> > it has mold on it. What does this mean?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Sharon

> >

> >

> >

> > FAIR USE NOTICE:

> >

> >

> >

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Sharon,

My concern with a mold plate that took two weeks to grow anything

would not be what grew. It would be with why didn't something grow.

If you have " excessive " mold, especially in a basement, the colonies

will grow large enough to become visible within 2-4 days. I say

" excessive " because there is always mold in the air everywhere. Not

getting any growth is a negative result that isn't correct. You

simply don't have any useful information because you don't know why

nothing happened.

This an example of the vagaries of sampling, especially with

inexpensive home kits whose quality is far from the best and often

not even acceptable.

A much more reliable assessment would be based on environmental

conditions such as humidity, temperature, building materials, history

in the context of the pattern of occupant complaints.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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> I left the lid on after the initial first hour as the directions

> indicate. I did not take the lid off again. I put it in the

> basement around December 13th so today January 1, 2008 my daughter

> brings it upstairs and it has two at least and maybe three different

> things growing in it. One is hairy and is black on the bottom and

> the other is like little balls of green. The other possible thing

> growing is some white specks. It's scary. It has me worried but as I

> said nothing was growing at 48 hrs, 72 hrs. or 96 hrs. Also I

> checked at a week and there was nothing growing at that time. I

> should have thrown it away after the test was complete. It's just my

> brain doesn't work right lately and although I'm feeling better I

> have been adrenal insufficient for two weeks but I'm not taking

> steroids and I have been able to tolerate the adrenal insufficiency

> without steroids but it affects my memory and being able to function.

>

> I'm not sure if this matters but we did move in some pellets for the

> pellet stove.

>

> Thanks Carl and thanks for the drain tip. Even I can take apart the

> drain and clean that out.

>

>

> >

> > Sharon,

> >

> > More details are needed. And I'm not sure from what you wrote but

> it

> > sounds like you left the lid off for 2 weeks. If so, how much

> longer

> > after 4 days did the mold appear?

> >

> > Carl Grimes

> > Healthy Habitats LLC

> >

> > -----

> >

> > > I did a mold check in my basement and left the petri dish there

> for

> > > over two weeks. It was okay at 48 hours, 72 hours and 96 hours

> but now

> > > it has mold on it. What does this mean?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Sharon

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > FAIR USE NOTICE:

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Sharon and Carl,

We did an experiment when we were dealing with our mold debacle that took

about 2 months to do. This is gross, but will tell you all anyway. My

daughter has aspergillosis and cystic fibrosis. Mold will grow on the rim of

her

toilet, just about a half an inch above the water line. For our experiment, we

had only her use a particular toilet exclusively, had her switch toilets,

had her switch back, etc. (we were in a house with 4 bathrooms)

Mold would only grow in the toilets she used. No one else's in the family.

But, it took approximately 2 weeks before the mold growth occurred. It was

dark brown to black with green and white flecks.

Sure hope no one is eating their breakfast while reading this post.

Sharon K

In a message dated 1/1/2008 7:34:42 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

grimes@... writes:

Sharon,

More details are needed. And I'm not sure from what you wrote but it

sounds like you left the lid off for 2 weeks. If so, how much longer

after 4 days did the mold appear?

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

-----

> I did a mold check in my basement and left the petri dish there for

> over two weeks. It was okay at 48 hours, 72 hours and 96 hours but now

> it has mold on it. What does this mean?

>

> Thanks,

> Sharon

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Thanks Carl. This relieves my concerns. I am getting better and I am

told that my adrenal problems will take a year to two years to

resolve. I wanted to test in my basement because my daughter has been

sick four or five times in 07 and I wanted to pin point why and where

she is getting sick. The barn where she rides had visible black mold

in one of the rooms but was recently remediated (probably not

properly). She rode in the barn last Saturday and she is still okay so

I know it's not the barn. She has been off school for about a week and

a half so if she gets sick again after returning to school I am going

to take a mold test to school with me and do some volunteer work. My

daughter said, " mom why don't you do volunteer work at the school and

if you get sick you will know it's the school " . I thought, we have a

plan.

Anyway Carl you are a great source of information and my family and I

thank you for your help and knowledge.

Sincerely,

Sharon Hanson

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Use of settle plates to detect airborne mold or

bacteria is widely used and scientifically acceptable.

Just like most other air sampling methods, it has its

limitations. If after exposing the agar media (for

half hour to 4 hours) nothing grows within a week at

22-25 degrees celcius, then I would conclude the air

is OK. However, if only a single sample was taken, a

retest is recommended. It is important to use media

that can support growth of a wide range of molds. One

important point to remember about use of growth media

to sample for mold is that only those structures of

mold that are still viable (living) are detected. Dead

structures (spores/hyphal fragments) which can still

cause allergic reactions to susceptible persons cannot

be detected by this method.

Dr. Kung'u,

http://www.moldbacteria.com

Kung'u, PhD.

Mold & Bacteria Consulting Laboratories (MBL) Inc.

1020 Brevik Place, Unit 1A

Mississauga, ON L4W 4N7

Tel: (905)290-9101; Toll Free: 1-866-813-0648

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Sharon: as Carl said, more information is needed. Mold spores are in the air

without or without mold growth inside the basement. If you can see the mold

colonies, then you have mold in the basement. On the other hand, approximately

50 % of mold is hidden, e.g. wall cavities.

Jack D. Thrasher, Ph.D.

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Dr. Kong'u is quite correct. The other aspect that mold cultures do not examine

is the fine particulate matter (less than the size of hyphae and spores). The

studies in Poland by Gorny and those in the U.S by Brael and Straus clearly

demonsrate that the fine particulates contain many toxic compounds, including

mycotoxins. If you are going to do air sampling, then also consider the fine

(nanoparticulates) in the sampling protocol.

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