hey everyone

[Guest guest]

yea I agree just let someone else do it. Nothing is more uncomfortable than trying to trust someone you really dont trust (if Im clear). It will be hard for me to go to my regular doctor now b/c he's not gonna understand anything, he didnt even know what it was!!!!!!

Wes

I undersatand you frustration though!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Hey Everyone

No argument from me about docs in general. I do wonder why you areopposed to doing the endoscopy in an outpatient hospital setting.I would much prefer the proximity to a hospital operating room, incase anything went wrong, whenever someone is sticking a tube down mydamaged E! If you think the doc's not that good in the first place,why not have someone else, preferably a better GI doc or a surgeon, dothe exam?Best wishes with everything.Dan>> Well I went in this morning for an endoscopy to see if they couldfigure out> why I have pain where my gall bladder was.well the doctor down here is a> (excuse me I'm really frustrated) dick. Tries to talk to me like I

don't> understand anything..then refuses to do the procedure because hedidn't feel> that he could get me relaxed enough in the twilight stage. So now hewants> me to go to the hospital and have it done out patient style.what afreaking> dork.I'm so mad!!!!! Ok done venting talk to you all later.> > >

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[Guest guest]

Endoscopy is usually done in the hospital(out patient) and you are

put to sleep and then discharged that same day.

Tonia

> >

> > Well I went in this morning for an endoscopy to see if they could

> figure out

> > why I have pain where my gall bladder was.well the doctor down

here is a

> > (excuse me I'm really frustrated) dick. Tries to talk to me like

I don't

> > understand anything..then refuses to do the procedure because he

> didn't feel

> > that he could get me relaxed enough in the twilight stage. So

now he

> wants

> > me to go to the hospital and have it done out patient style.what

a

> freaking

> > dork.I'm so mad!!!!! Ok done venting talk to you all later.

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

call me when you get a chance- What was this DRs deal?

> > >

> > > Well I went in this morning for an endoscopy to see if they

could

> > figure out

> > > why I have pain where my gall bladder was.well the doctor down

> here is a

> > > (excuse me I'm really frustrated) dick. Tries to talk to me

like

> I don't

> > > understand anything..then refuses to do the procedure because

he

> > didn't feel

> > > that he could get me relaxed enough in the twilight stage. So

> now he

> > wants

> > > me to go to the hospital and have it done out patient

style.what

> a

> > freaking

> > > dork.I'm so mad!!!!! Ok done venting talk to you all later.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks to everyone that responded. Here they have a Clinic that

is for endoscopies and the such, and it is away from the hospital. They only do

twilight there and I didn’t know that going in. To boot the doctor was an

ass, like I didn’t know anything. Talked to me like I was 2. I am not

opposed to a hospital setting this is how they do it down here and I didn’t

know that. The more I think about it…the more it worries me to go to

someone who isn’t specialized in achalasia, even though that is not what

the endoscopy is for…they still have to go down that route. I just don’t

know right now..I’m in a rough situation. I’ve had lots of health

issues and my husband just started his job here, so he can’t keep taking

off of work to take me to appointments and stuff. I have small children at

home, money is tight…well I could go on but I think you get the picture.

If I could I would go to CCF to figure out what is going on. And unless I wanna

wait 2 more months and make arrangements then it isn’t possible. OH I

JUST HATE ALL OF THIS.

By the way great to hear you made it through Isabella!!!

From:

achalasia [mailto:achalasia ] On Behalf Of rp518dan

Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 2:40 PM

achalasia

Subject: Re: Hey Everyone

No argument from me about docs in general. I do

wonder why you are

opposed to doing the endoscopy in an outpatient hospital setting.

I would much prefer the proximity to a hospital operating room, in

case anything went wrong, whenever someone is sticking a tube down my

damaged E! If you think the doc's not that good in the first place,

why not have someone else, preferably a better GI doc or a surgeon, do

the exam?

Best wishes with everything.

Dan

>

> Well I went in this morning for an endoscopy to see if they could

figure out

> why I have pain where my gall bladder was.well the doctor down here is a

> (excuse me I'm really frustrated) dick. Tries to talk to me like I don't

> understand anything..then refuses to do the procedure because he

didn't feel

> that he could get me relaxed enough in the twilight stage. So now he

wants

> me to go to the hospital and have it done out patient style.what a

freaking

> dork.I'm so mad!!!!! Ok done venting talk to you all later.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I wonder if the doctor just didn't take the time to explain, not sure, but maybe he/she was worried about the risk of perforating during an endoscope? Isn't there a higher risk of perforation if we have achalasia? During twilight don't we still wiggle around a lot and if there is a perforation you want someone close to fix it that knows what they are doing? Seems like the gi who did mine said I fought against it a lot. Have you had an ultrasound? Maybe there are adhesions or something in the "female arena?" Or appendicitis starting. Sorry you are having trouble. Wouldn't it be so much easier if all these aches and pains showed up on the outside of our bodies? I understand your frustration too. Going down the path of mysterious pain and misery again is not an unfamiliar feeling and who wants to do that again?

Sandy> >> > Well I went in this morning for an endoscopy to see if they could> figure out> > why I have pain where my gall bladder was.well the doctor down here is a> > (excuse me I'm really frustrated) dick. Tries to talk to me like I don't> > understand anything..then refuses to do the procedure because he> didn't feel> > that he could get me relaxed enough in the twilight stage. So now he> wants> > me to go to the hospital and have it done out patient style.what a> freaking> > dork.I'm so mad!!!!! Ok done venting talk to you all later.> > > > > >> > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________> You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. > http://tc.deals./tc/blockbuster/text5.com>

[Guest guest]

Sandy

He did say that he wanted me completely relaxed and that there

would be no chance of me fighting them..which I did do ONCE in the past. He

said with the pain meds that I’m taking now he was afraid of hurting me

more then helping if I’m not comfortable. He didn’t speak very good

English. I have nothing against foreigners here…I just wish they would

communicate a little better with us is all. Kind of like me going to china and

trying to tell them how to cook an apple pie!!!! I’m sure he had his

reasons he just didn’t convey them well and I got frustrated!!!

From: achalasia

[mailto:achalasia ] On Behalf Of toomuchclutter

Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 12:06 AM

achalasia

Subject: Re: Hey Everyone

I wonder if the

doctor just didn't take the time to explain, not sure, but maybe he/she was

worried about the risk of perforating during an endoscope? Isn't there a

higher risk of perforation if we have achalasia? During twilight don't we

still wiggle around a lot and if there is a perforation you want someone close

to fix it that knows what they are doing? Seems like the gi who did mine

said I fought against it a lot. Have you had an ultrasound? Maybe

there are adhesions or something in the " female arena? " Or appendicitis

starting. Sorry you are having trouble. Wouldn't it be so much

easier if all these aches and pains showed up on the outside of our

bodies? I understand your frustration too. Going down the path of

mysterious pain and misery again is not an unfamiliar feeling and who wants to

do that again?

Sandy

> >

> > Well I went in this morning for an endoscopy to see if they could

> figure out

> > why I have pain where my gall bladder was.well the doctor down here

is a

> > (excuse me I'm really frustrated) dick. Tries to talk to me like I

don't

> > understand anything..then refuses to do the procedure because he

> didn't feel

> > that he could get me relaxed enough in the twilight stage. So now he

> wants

> > me to go to the hospital and have it done out patient style.what a

> freaking

> > dork.I'm so mad!!!!! Ok done venting talk to you all later.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

> ____________________________________________________________________________________

> You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster

Total Access, No Cost.

> http://tc.deals./tc/blockbuster/text5.com

>

[Guest guest]

I know, it was frustrating. I probably would have yelled and then cried. You were ready for it, hoping to get some kind of diagnosis and then he just delayed you, double frustrating.

So many doctors are or just pretend to be so smart they don't learn good communication skills and the language barrier can be huge. Not blaming you. Deep down he was probably frustrated also. He should have told you that earlier though. (make sure he doesn't get paid). Can anyone translate? Probably not, maybe his office staff could have explained it better. But I would have just done the ugly crying and whimpered home.

Sandy

> > >> > > Well I went in this morning for an endoscopy to see if they could> > figure out> > > why I have pain where my gall bladder was.well the doctor down here is a> > > (excuse me I'm really frustrated) dick. Tries to talk to me like I don't> > > understand anything..then refuses to do the procedure because he> > didn't feel> > > that he could get me relaxed enough in the twilight stage. So now he> > wants> > > me to go to the hospital and have it done out patient style.what a> > freaking> > > dork.I'm so mad!!!!! Ok done venting talk to you all later.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> ____________________________________________________________________________> ________> > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster> Total Access, No Cost. > > http://tc.deals./tc/blockbuster/text5.com> >>

[Guest guest]

Sandy

I did cry and whimper home!!!! Good gosh, I have had this pain

for almost 3 months now..I had a fever for 15 days then it went away for a week

or so and now..its back again. I just sometimes feel helpless and I guess the

cry did me some good!!! Thanks for letting me know that I’m NOT the only

frustrated, crying, psycho woman out there right now!!!

From:

achalasia [mailto:achalasia ] On Behalf Of toomuchclutter

Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 12:30 AM

achalasia

Subject: Re: Hey Everyone

I know, it was

frustrating. I probably would have yelled and then cried. You were ready

for it, hoping to get some kind of diagnosis and then he just delayed you,

double frustrating.

So many doctors are

or just pretend to be so smart they don't learn good communication skills and

the language barrier can be huge. Not blaming you. Deep down he was

probably frustrated also. He should have told you that earlier

though. (make sure he doesn't get paid). Can anyone

translate? Probably not, maybe his office staff could have explained it

better. But I would have just done the ugly crying and whimpered home.

Sandy

> > >

> > > Well I went in this morning for an endoscopy to see if they

could

> > figure out

> > > why I have pain where my gall bladder was.well the doctor down

here is a

> > > (excuse me I'm really frustrated) dick. Tries to talk to me like

I don't

> > > understand anything..then refuses to do the procedure because he

> > didn't feel

> > > that he could get me relaxed enough in the twilight stage. So

now he

> > wants

> > > me to go to the hospital and have it done out patient style.what

a

> > freaking

> > > dork.I'm so mad!!!!! Ok done venting talk to you all later.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> ____________________________________________________________________________

> ________

> > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of

Blockbuster

> Total Access, No Cost.

> > http://tc.deals./tc/blockbuster/text5.com

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sandy wrote:

.... they don't learn

good communication skills and the language barrier can be huge. ...

This may have nothing to do with this case, but I would hate to have to

communicate medical decisions to the general public without knowing

just what each person already knows and understands. There are

non-medical but technical things that I try to explain to others around

me, often because they have asked a question, and I end up feeling like

I am walking in a mine field. It is so easy to make people feel that

you are insulting their intelligence, but if I speak above what they

understand they will also hold that against me. If I ask a question to

see what they know, (I often do that to understand the questions they

ask), they may feel that I am setting them up to look stupid. This is

in a setting where I usually have more time than a doctor office visit.

The worst cases are when I have someone that is in some way my superior

and they need to know something that is counterintuitive but they don't

know what they need to know to understand the truth. I can explain it

but they won't believe it.

notan

[Guest guest]

,

I'm so sorry to hear that you're having so many problems! What a

frustrating day you had, too! I just wanted to add that maybe some

endoscopies are tougher than others. My brother has Ulcerative

Colitis, so he's had many, many colonoscopies over the years, without

complications. A few years back, though, they did an ECRP on him (the

scope where they check the duct to the gall bladder - I think that's

what it's called, anyway). Well, he said it was difficult and they

told him he was fighting them during the procedure. I think this test

could be the one they were going to do for you and I think it's a

little tougher than an EGD or colonoscopy.

Hang in there and I hope you can get some relief soon!

> > > > Well I went in this morning for an endoscopy to see if they could

> > > figure out

> > > > why I have pain where my gall bladder was.well the doctor down

here is

> a

> > > > (excuse me I'm really frustrated) dick. Tries to talk to me like I

> don't

> > > > understand anything..then refuses to do the procedure because he

> > > didn't feel

> > > > that he could get me relaxed enough in the twilight stage. So

now he

> > > wants

> > > > me to go to the hospital and have it done out patient style.what a

> > > freaking

> > > > dork.I'm so mad!!!!! Ok done venting talk to you all later.

> > > >

> > > >

> >

[Guest guest]

I don't think you are as old as I am, 50... but you may have to cut back or eliminate mascara in the future because the tears can come even quicker than when you were younger. If you wear waterproof mascara, it just makes clumps and falls into your contacts and makes your eyes look worse even longer. So no mascara becomes the new norm. Welcome to middle age!

Sandy

> > > >> > > > Well I went in this morning for an endoscopy to see if they could> > > figure out> > > > why I have pain where my gall bladder was.well the doctor down here is> a> > > > (excuse me I'm really frustrated) dick. Tries to talk to me like I> don't> > > > understand anything..then refuses to do the procedure because he> > > didn't feel> > > > that he could get me relaxed enough in the twilight stage. So now he> > > wants> > > > me to go to the hospital and have it done out patient style.what a> > > freaking> > > > dork.I'm so mad!!!!! Ok done venting talk to you all later.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> ____________________________________________________________________________> > ________> > > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster> > Total Access, No Cost. > > > http://tc.deals./tc/blockbuster/text5.com> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Sandy,

LOL I’m 37..but most of the time I feel 80!! LMAO. I don’t

do makeup much anymore, I don’t feel like putting it on most of the time.

But I will keep that in mind!!!

From:

achalasia [mailto:achalasia ] On Behalf Of toomuchclutter

Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 10:15 AM

achalasia

Subject: Re: Hey Everyone

I don't think you

are as old as I am, 50... but you may have to cut back or eliminate mascara in

the future because the tears can come even quicker than when you were younger.

If you wear waterproof mascara, it just makes clumps and falls into your

contacts and makes your eyes look worse even longer. So no mascara

becomes the new norm. Welcome to middle age!

Sandy

> > > >

> > > > Well I went in this morning for an endoscopy to see if they

could

> > > figure out

> > > > why I have pain where my gall bladder was.well the doctor

down here is

> a

> > > > (excuse me I'm really frustrated) dick. Tries to talk to me

like I

> don't

> > > > understand anything..then refuses to do the procedure

because he

> > > didn't feel

> > > > that he could get me relaxed enough in the twilight stage.

So now he

> > > wants

> > > > me to go to the hospital and have it done out patient

style.what a

> > > freaking

> > > > dork.I'm so mad!!!!! Ok done venting talk to you all later.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> ____________________________________________________________________________

> > ________

> > > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of

Blockbuster

> > Total Access, No Cost.

> > > http://tc.deals./tc/blockbuster/text5.com

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

,

Yeah well hopefully I will get this all over on Wednesday!!!!

Lets just hope it goes smoothly!!!

From:

achalasia [mailto:achalasia ] On Behalf Of let45ride

Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 9:15 AM

achalasia

Subject: Re: Hey Everyone

,

I'm so sorry to hear that you're having so many problems! What a

frustrating day you had, too! I just wanted to add that maybe some

endoscopies are tougher than others. My brother has Ulcerative

Colitis, so he's had many, many colonoscopies over the years, without

complications. A few years back, though, they did an ECRP on him (the

scope where they check the duct to the gall bladder - I think that's

what it's called, anyway). Well, he said it was difficult and they

told him he was fighting them during the procedure. I think this test

could be the one they were going to do for you and I think it's a

little tougher than an EGD or colonoscopy.

Hang in there and I hope you can get some relief soon!

> > > > Well I went in this morning for an endoscopy to see if they

could

> > > figure out

> > > > why I have pain where my gall bladder was.well the doctor

down

here is

> a

> > > > (excuse me I'm really frustrated) dick. Tries to talk to me

like I

> don't

> > > > understand anything..then refuses to do the procedure

because he

> > > didn't feel

> > > > that he could get me relaxed enough in the twilight stage.

So

now he

> > > wants

> > > > me to go to the hospital and have it done out patient

style.what a

> > > freaking

> > > > dork.I'm so mad!!!!! Ok done venting talk to you all later.

> > > >

> > > >

> >

[Guest guest]

Wanted to add my own experience in on this one!

In 96, (with Kaiser HMO Ca) I had a scope and fought it with twilight

and bit through a $20,000 instrument being used at that point.

Never again. Next time I was put out, had to fight for a year with

Doctor to be put out, they did not want to do it. But I won.

When I told this story to my new medical team at U.ofW. they did not

like the way it was handled. Being put out is simple and easy when in

the right Doctor hands.

Joanne Palm Desert

>

> ,

>

> Yeah well hopefully I will get this all over on Wednesday!!!! Lets

just hope

> it goes smoothly!!!

>

>

>

>

>

> From: achalasia [mailto:achalasia ] On

Behalf

> Of let45ride

> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 9:15 AM

> achalasia

> Subject: Re: Hey Everyone

>

>

>

> ,

> I'm so sorry to hear that you're having so many problems! What a

> frustrating day you had, too! I just wanted to add that maybe some

> endoscopies are tougher than others. My brother has Ulcerative

> Colitis, so he's had many, many colonoscopies over the years, without

> complications. A few years back, though, they did an ECRP on him (the

> scope where they check the duct to the gall bladder - I think that's

> what it's called, anyway). Well, he said it was difficult and they

> told him he was fighting them during the procedure. I think this test

> could be the one they were going to do for you and I think it's a

> little tougher than an EGD or colonoscopy.

> Hang in there and I hope you can get some relief soon!

>

>

>

> > > > > Well I went in this morning for an endoscopy to see if they

could

> > > > figure out

> > > > > why I have pain where my gall bladder was.well the doctor down

> here is

> > a

> > > > > (excuse me I'm really frustrated) dick. Tries to talk to me

like I

> > don't

> > > > > understand anything..then refuses to do the procedure because

he

> > > > didn't feel

> > > > > that he could get me relaxed enough in the twilight stage. So

> now he

> > > > wants

> > > > > me to go to the hospital and have it done out patient

style.what a

> > > > freaking

> > > > > dork.I'm so mad!!!!! Ok done venting talk to you all later.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Joanne

Before I have always been put past twilight. The doctors at CCF

have it in my file to do so!!! So I guess I learned a new lesson!!!

From:

achalasia [mailto:achalasia ] On Behalf Of joanneleinow

Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 12:02 PM

achalasia

Subject: Re: Hey Everyone

Wanted to add my own experience in on this one!

In 96, (with Kaiser HMO Ca) I had a scope and fought it with twilight

and bit through a $20,000 instrument being used at that point.

Never again. Next time I was put out, had to fight for a year with

Doctor to be put out, they did not want to do it. But I won.

When I told this story to my new medical team at U.ofW. they did not

like the way it was handled. Being put out is simple and easy when in

the right Doctor hands.

Joanne Palm Desert

>

> ,

>

> Yeah well hopefully I will get this all over on Wednesday!!!! Lets

just hope

> it goes smoothly!!!

>

>

>

>

>

> From: achalasia

[mailto:achalasia ]

On

Behalf

> Of let45ride

> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 9:15 AM

> achalasia

> Subject: Re: Hey Everyone

>

>

>

> ,

> I'm so sorry to hear that you're having so many problems! What a

> frustrating day you had, too! I just wanted to add that maybe some

> endoscopies are tougher than others. My brother has Ulcerative

> Colitis, so he's had many, many colonoscopies over the years, without

> complications. A few years back, though, they did an ECRP on him (the

> scope where they check the duct to the gall bladder - I think that's

> what it's called, anyway). Well, he said it was difficult and they

> told him he was fighting them during the procedure. I think this test

> could be the one they were going to do for you and I think it's a

> little tougher than an EGD or colonoscopy.

> Hang in there and I hope you can get some relief soon!

>

>

>

> > > > > Well I went in this morning for an endoscopy to see if

they

could

> > > > figure out

> > > > > why I have pain where my gall bladder was.well the

doctor down

> here is

> > a

> > > > > (excuse me I'm really frustrated) dick. Tries to talk

to me

like I

> > don't

> > > > > understand anything..then refuses to do the procedure

because

he

> > > > didn't feel

> > > > > that he could get me relaxed enough in the twilight

stage. So

> now he

> > > > wants

> > > > > me to go to the hospital and have it done out patient

style.what a

> > > > freaking

> > > > > dork.I'm so mad!!!!! Ok done venting talk to you all

later.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > >

>

[Guest guest]

I’ll

jump in on this one. I, too, had always had the endoscopy done with the

twilight medicine. Until this last one in November, I did fine. However, I fought

the doctor and nurses. One nurse told me that I sat up and was kicking and flailing

my arms. Totally unexpected. They gave up (but got the colonoscopy done J) and re-scheduled the endoscopy. The GI doc brought in an

anesthesiologist doc who gave me more meds to knock me out even more. And, he

said I still was somewhat combative. Told me I probably need to be completely knocked out for the next

ones. I was really surprised. Relieved to hear in this group that this has

happened to other people.

Jan in

Portland, OR

Re: Hey Everyone

>

>

>

> ,

> I'm so sorry to hear that you're having so many problems! What a

> frustrating day you had, too! I just wanted to add that maybe some

> endoscopies are tougher than others. My brother has Ulcerative

> Colitis, so he's had many, many colonoscopies over the years, without

> complications. A few years back, though, they did an ECRP on him (the

> scope where they check the duct to the gall bladder - I think that's

> what it's called, anyway). Well, he said it was difficult and they

> told him he was fighting them during the procedure. I think this test

> could be the one they were going to do for you and I think it's a

> little tougher than an EGD or colonoscopy.

> Hang in there and I hope you can get some relief soon!

>

>

>

> > > > > Well I went in this morning for an endoscopy to see if

they

could

> > > > figure out

> > > > > why I have pain where my gall bladder was.well the

doctor down

> here is

> > a

> > > > > (excuse me I'm really frustrated) dick. Tries to talk

to me

like I

> > don't

> > > > > understand anything..then refuses to do the procedure

because

he

> > > > didn't feel

> > > > > that he could get me relaxed enough in the twilight

stage. So

> now he

> > > > wants

> > > > > me to go to the hospital and have it done out patient

style.what a

> > > > freaking

> > > > > dork.I'm so mad!!!!! Ok done venting talk to you all

later.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > >

>

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[Guest guest]

Not that I wish monetary loss on anyone, but Kaiser HMO deserved that! Have a few grudges against Kaiser, although I haven't ever had them, but my husband's family has. >> Wanted to add my own experience in on this one!> In 96, (with Kaiser HMO Ca) I had a scope and fought it with twilight> and bit through a $20,000 instrument being used at that point.> Never again. Next time I was put out, had to fight for a year with> Doctor to be put out, they did not want to do it. But I won.> When I told this story to my new medical team at U.ofW. they did not> like the way it was handled. Being put out is simple and easy when in> the right Doctor hands.> Joanne Palm Desert

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I like to use a blend of green and black tea. The file section to the

left has good info on Kombucha Tea, KT for short. Here is web site as

well for making KT http://users.bestweb.net/~om/kmi/manual.html

DOC Opa

>

> I have just joined this group cause i have started to brew kombucha

> and first batch is coming soon.... Is white and green tea ok to use? I

> have heard green and black tea was the best.

>

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In message <g0efcj+6fiieGroups> you wrote:

> I have just joined this group cause i have started to brew kombucha

> and first batch is coming soon.... Is white and green tea ok to use? I

> have heard green and black tea was the best.

Hello Mr nameless ;-)

You can use any of the camellia sinensis teas, all same plant but different

processing: White, green (unfermented/unoxidised), Oolong (half-fermented)

Black (fully oxidised/fermented). The terms oxidised and fermented are often

used meaning the same in tea literature, although the process is actually

an oxidation process.

I brew my Kombucha from a mixture of some of the above or all.

Even within the Green tea there are hundreds of different grades and

prices. You do not have to use the most expensive teas for Kombucha.

Ordinary proper tea works very well.

I prefer a large proportion of green tea in my Kt brew.

You will never come to an end experimenting with different teas,

different mixtures and different amounts.

Its healthy fun!

Margret:-) UK

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Hi ,

My name is Doris, I have an 11 yr old w/ Aspergers, he was Dx a little over a year ago, until then it was whatever they could put a label on. (gotta love the professionals..) I am right there with you in learning any & everything I can. I am sure with everyones help we will find what we need.

Hugs,

Doris

MAY YOU HAVE A BLESSED 2009!

From: sandradaniels2001 <sandradaniels2001@...>Subject: hey everyoneAutism and Aspergers Treatment Date: Friday, January 30, 2009, 11:41 PM

Hello everyone , i'm sandra - the mother of a 10 year old, that has been recently diagnosed with aspergers -- to be honest i dont really have a clue as far as where to go from here, i have done some research .I am finding alot of conflicting information, all i really want is to make sure that i do everything i can for her , so that she can be a self sufficent adult. Any information that anyone is willing sure, helpful hints, comments , would be greatly greatly appreciated.

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YOu can visit www.informparents.com for correct information on autism

and Asperger's Disorder. Also visit the American Autism Society site.

>

> Hello everyone , i'm sandra - the mother of a 10 year old, that has

> been recently diagnosed with aspergers -- to be honest i dont really

> have a clue as far as where to go from here, i have done some

> research .

> I am finding alot of conflicting information, all i really want is to

> make sure that i do everything i can for her , so that she can be a

> self sufficent adult.

> Any information that anyone is willing sure, helpful hints,

comments ,

> would be greatly greatly appreciated.

>

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Hi,

I would also love a list like this if anyone has made one already... it's on my

'to do' list, sure would be great to have all the hard work done already... ;-)

Can anyone tell me if there are differences between vaxes depending which

country you are in? ie. if someone in the US had a list, would there be anything

that *wasn't* applicable here in Australia...? Hope that makes sense.

Cheers!

April

>

> I know some of you guys have made a list of the vaccines and what they contain

and some of the issues with each adn what not is there anyway I can get someone

to send me that sort of list so I can give it to a friend of mine who just had a

baby? Thanks. She wants more info on each of them or perhaps theres a good

website to refer me to for her.

>

> Thanks,

> heidi

>

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The CDC has made these lists available for us. One table is listed by

excipient, the other by vaccine. Here they are:

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table\

-1.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table\

-2.pdf

Here is another awesome resource:

http://www.novaccine.com/vaccine-ingredients/

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:26 AM, trtleduv96<trtleduv96@...> wrote:

>

>

> I know some of you guys have made a list of the vaccines and what they

> contain and some of the issues with each adn what not is there anyway I can

> get someone to send me that sort of list so I can give it to a friend of

> mine who just had a baby? Thanks. She wants more info on each of them or

> perhaps theres a good website to refer me to for her.

>

> Thanks,

> heidi

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usually 1-3 weekshighly variable depending upon surgeons preference and what exactly you have had done With best wishesMr WareingConsultant ENT SurgeonSt Bartholomews HospitalThe Royal London HospitalThe London Clinic145 Harley StreetLondon W1G 6BJwww.michaelwareing-ent.com020 7935 1304From: amanda <boobabyhm21@...>cholesteatoma Sent: Mon, 27 September, 2010 20:32:35Subject: hey everyone

I was just wondering how long the deep padding in your ear was suppose to be in there im so ready for mine to come out so i can open my mouth more in eat right also my ear is still bleeding its not alot but just wondering if that was ok thanks everyone amanda

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I was also wondering if you are suppose to feel the padding in your ear like is it suppose to be so uncomfortable Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!