Guest guest Posted April 25, 2004 Report Share Posted April 25, 2004 Every situation is different, of course, and I struggled with this same issue for months...and months.... I also had trouble understanding and acccepting what was happening to my life as I knew it, and struggled with how to address the situation...until one day it all became crystal clear. Not sure why it became clear when it did. Guess I had just become tired of surviving and wanted to live my life. I have decided that life is very short, shorter even than we realize, my health is very important to me, I can replace my house, and I can eventually replace my stuff, I don't believe remediation techniques as they exist today are sufficient to fully address the problem, which means that either I may have future health problems (and the remed. co's only give a one-year warranty), or I may sell the house to someone who may have future health problems and thay may sue me, and the thing that makes my house special and a " home " to me is a combination of my stuff, the way I've fixed it up, and a feeling I have about it. The next house I live in will also be special to me, but will not be contaminated. Guess you'll just know when the time is right to make the decision. Jules --- In , " shainaraisa " <shanaraisa@a...> wrote: > I love my house and it would sadden me to leave it. I am suffering > here with numerous mold situations. I am considering the idea of > leaving the house for several months and having walls, ceilings, > floors and exterior sheathing ripped out from areas in which I > suspect there is mold. Obviously considerable expense would be > involved. But it would be worth it if I could ultimately stay in my > house. But what I am afraid of is that after undertaking this > expense, the house would still be full of mycotoxins and spores, or > that it would be impossible to find all of the mold,or that the mold > would eventually return. I need advice. How does one know when it > is time to leave one's home forever? How bad does a house have to be > before one who is extremely mold sensitive must abandon their > house? Could my efforts to fix up my house fail? Please give me > your thoughts...Jeri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2004 Report Share Posted April 25, 2004 Every situation is different, of course, and I struggled with this same issue for months...and months.... I also had trouble understanding and acccepting what was happening to my life as I knew it, and struggled with how to address the situation...until one day it all became crystal clear. Not sure why it became clear when it did. Guess I had just become tired of surviving and wanted to live my life. I have decided that life is very short, shorter even than we realize, my health is very important to me, I can replace my house, and I can eventually replace my stuff, I don't believe remediation techniques as they exist today are sufficient to fully address the problem, which means that either I may have future health problems (and the remed. co's only give a one-year warranty), or I may sell the house to someone who may have future health problems and thay may sue me, and the thing that makes my house special and a " home " to me is a combination of my stuff, the way I've fixed it up, and a feeling I have about it. The next house I live in will also be special to me, but will not be contaminated. Guess you'll just know when the time is right to make the decision. Jules --- In , " shainaraisa " <shanaraisa@a...> wrote: > I love my house and it would sadden me to leave it. I am suffering > here with numerous mold situations. I am considering the idea of > leaving the house for several months and having walls, ceilings, > floors and exterior sheathing ripped out from areas in which I > suspect there is mold. Obviously considerable expense would be > involved. But it would be worth it if I could ultimately stay in my > house. But what I am afraid of is that after undertaking this > expense, the house would still be full of mycotoxins and spores, or > that it would be impossible to find all of the mold,or that the mold > would eventually return. I need advice. How does one know when it > is time to leave one's home forever? How bad does a house have to be > before one who is extremely mold sensitive must abandon their > house? Could my efforts to fix up my house fail? Please give me > your thoughts...Jeri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2004 Report Share Posted April 25, 2004 Several years ago I went to a CFS specialist and wound up diagnosing HIM with mycotoxicosis. He and his wife were both sick and clueless. Both his house and office were contaminated. But that's exactly what he told me about his house. That it was his dream house and he " had put everything into it " . That leaving it would shatter his life. We all have to make our own decisions and I can't tell someone to leave. But I tell people this; " I would rather feel good by sleeping in a dumpster than fight for my life in a moldy mansion " . The doctor went through all the same steps of denial, bargaining, attempted remediation, sadness, anger at his lost dreams. And when it was all done he reached the only conclusion a semi sane person can come to. He bailed out of mold hell. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2004 Report Share Posted April 25, 2004 Several years ago I went to a CFS specialist and wound up diagnosing HIM with mycotoxicosis. He and his wife were both sick and clueless. Both his house and office were contaminated. But that's exactly what he told me about his house. That it was his dream house and he " had put everything into it " . That leaving it would shatter his life. We all have to make our own decisions and I can't tell someone to leave. But I tell people this; " I would rather feel good by sleeping in a dumpster than fight for my life in a moldy mansion " . The doctor went through all the same steps of denial, bargaining, attempted remediation, sadness, anger at his lost dreams. And when it was all done he reached the only conclusion a semi sane person can come to. He bailed out of mold hell. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2004 Report Share Posted April 26, 2004 > From: julesblucky > > The next house I live in will also be special to me, > but will not be contaminated. > > * How are you going to ensure the latter? Thanks and good luck. > > -- There has to be a way -- I have stayed in places in the last couple months that did not set me off, and were full of normal stuff. I'd say inorganic for starters -- brick, block or metal. Metal trusses and roofing. Airlock or mudroom for the front door. No basement or crawlspace, concrete slab on grade is questionable -- optimally, up on pylons instead of stemwalls. No drywall, acoustic tile or paneling. No HVAC, no woodburning heat. Bigtime aircleaners and venting. Broadband internet... Barring new custom construction this sounds kind of like a new trailer, but the MCS component is potentially nasty, and old trailers are obviously bad. Anyone got another realworld solution in the short term for the dislocated? What if a Pie in the Sky scenario materialized, and the govt threw up some housing using disaster relief funding? What would these structures look like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2004 Report Share Posted April 26, 2004 > From: julesblucky > > The next house I live in will also be special to me, > but will not be contaminated. > > * How are you going to ensure the latter? Thanks and good luck. > > -- There has to be a way -- I have stayed in places in the last couple months that did not set me off, and were full of normal stuff. I'd say inorganic for starters -- brick, block or metal. Metal trusses and roofing. Airlock or mudroom for the front door. No basement or crawlspace, concrete slab on grade is questionable -- optimally, up on pylons instead of stemwalls. No drywall, acoustic tile or paneling. No HVAC, no woodburning heat. Bigtime aircleaners and venting. Broadband internet... Barring new custom construction this sounds kind of like a new trailer, but the MCS component is potentially nasty, and old trailers are obviously bad. Anyone got another realworld solution in the short term for the dislocated? What if a Pie in the Sky scenario materialized, and the govt threw up some housing using disaster relief funding? What would these structures look like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2004 Report Share Posted April 26, 2004 > " I would rather feel good by sleeping in a dumpster than fight for my > life in a moldy mansion " . > The doctor went through all the same steps of denial, bargaining, > attempted remediation, sadness, anger at his lost dreams. > And when it was all done he reached the only conclusion a semi sane > person can come to. > He bailed out of mold hell. > - God, -- Sometimes it just blows me away that you have so much experience that is DIRECTLY related to what I've gone through. In my own process, I mentally structured this as: Would I rather be homeless and healthy, or slowly dying in " Comfort " ? However, being homeless makes it hard for the supposedly Sane people who make public policy and conduct research to take you seriously. Keep banging the drum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2004 Report Share Posted April 26, 2004 > " I would rather feel good by sleeping in a dumpster than fight for my > life in a moldy mansion " . > The doctor went through all the same steps of denial, bargaining, > attempted remediation, sadness, anger at his lost dreams. > And when it was all done he reached the only conclusion a semi sane > person can come to. > He bailed out of mold hell. > - God, -- Sometimes it just blows me away that you have so much experience that is DIRECTLY related to what I've gone through. In my own process, I mentally structured this as: Would I rather be homeless and healthy, or slowly dying in " Comfort " ? However, being homeless makes it hard for the supposedly Sane people who make public policy and conduct research to take you seriously. Keep banging the drum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2004 Report Share Posted April 26, 2004 > --- In , " erik_johnson_96140 " <erikj6@e...> wrote: > > > " I would rather feel good by sleeping in a dumpster than fight for my > > life in a moldy mansion " . > > The doctor went through all the same steps of denial, bargaining, > > attempted remediation, sadness, anger at his lost dreams. > > And when it was all done he reached the only conclusion a semi sane > > person can come to. > > He bailed out of mold hell. > > - > > God, -- > > Sometimes it just blows me away that you have so much experience that is DIRECTLY related to what I've gone through. In my own process, I > mentally structured this as: Would I rather be homeless and healthy, or slowly dying in " Comfort " ? > > However, being homeless makes it hard for the supposedly Sane people who make public policy and conduct research to take you seriously. > > Keep banging the drum. > > I agree, and bang it loudly. At one time I was so sick I didn't know what to do. I couldn't be homeless with a cat and I felt SO quilty about that-- not only was I sick I just knew that it was affecting my cat and didn't know where to turn. I was lucky to have a guardian angel attorney to help me. Lori and Meow Cat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2004 Report Share Posted April 26, 2004 > --- In , " erik_johnson_96140 " <erikj6@e...> wrote: > > > " I would rather feel good by sleeping in a dumpster than fight for my > > life in a moldy mansion " . > > The doctor went through all the same steps of denial, bargaining, > > attempted remediation, sadness, anger at his lost dreams. > > And when it was all done he reached the only conclusion a semi sane > > person can come to. > > He bailed out of mold hell. > > - > > God, -- > > Sometimes it just blows me away that you have so much experience that is DIRECTLY related to what I've gone through. In my own process, I > mentally structured this as: Would I rather be homeless and healthy, or slowly dying in " Comfort " ? > > However, being homeless makes it hard for the supposedly Sane people who make public policy and conduct research to take you seriously. > > Keep banging the drum. > > I agree, and bang it loudly. At one time I was so sick I didn't know what to do. I couldn't be homeless with a cat and I felt SO quilty about that-- not only was I sick I just knew that it was affecting my cat and didn't know where to turn. I was lucky to have a guardian angel attorney to help me. Lori and Meow Cat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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