Subject: Re: You can't Believe it! You can't Believe it!

[Guest guest]

I was out looking at public storage rentals the other day trying to

determine the correct size and was really surprised when I walked

into the third unit and reacted to the air inside. They were in the

process of replacing the plastic interior ceiling so either the unit

had leaked or someone had stored contaminated belongings in it, but

it definitely was contaminated.

I've decided to remediate my belongings prior to storage, better

chance of becoming non-reactive sooner, and still not sure about

tossing porous stuff...may just wrap it up in plastic and put it in

storage also, maybe even a separate smaller unit. Just can't bear to

do it right now, on an emotional level. Am looking into how much a

remediation co. would charge to do contents remediation without doing

my house. May just do it myself fully mummified in protective gear.

For the record, I have not been able to remediate clothing through

washing. I've tried everything; cold, warm, hot, diff. detergents,

baking soda, vinegar, bleach, ... Jonathon, what are you doing that

works? Or is it possibly a different mold, toxin, concentration?

I've also tried regular dry cleaning and dry cleaning with ozone

treatment (same they use for smokey clothes) with no luck. Dang!

There must be something that neutralizes toxins, like tomato juice

for skunk spray on dogs (although that never really worked for me).

What about something that's used to clean chemicals? Any ideas out

there? I'll experiment with just about anything at this point.

Jules

>

> > Are you folks storing your stuff in a public rental

> > storage space that someone like me might use

> > afterwards? UGH! I sure hope you plan to remediate it

> > after you move your stuff out.

>

> At the time I was putting my stuff in storage and bailing out of my

> house, virtually everyone was telling me that this was impossible.

> From Dr Johannings office to Dr , Dr Rosenbaum to any of

the

> dozens of mycologists, toxicologists and allergists that I

contacted.

> So I didn't see any point in solving a problem " That doesn't exist "

> for others who don't have it and are basically calling me a liar

> about its very existence.

> I sold my house too. Said it was moldy but since no one else on

Earth

> has this problem, it was a non issue.

> Dr Marinkovich had a vague understanding that something was going

on

> but offered no practical advice on cross contamination.

> I was the one who told HIM about mycotoxins penetrating walls

without

> the presence of spores.

> So I was pretty much on my own trying to figure out what to do.

> I know that when your stuff is killing you, there is an emotional

> component of distress that directs you to trash everything you've

got.

> It seems hard to believe that anything which could hurt you so much

> might someday be OK, but that's how it was for my stuff in storage.

> And if it doesn't hurt me, it sure isn't likely to have an effect

on

> anyone else. I got my stuff out of storage and see no need to

> remediate the storage facility.

> Before people dump all their stuff, maybe it might be a good idea

to

> get a census of people who have been through this and learned to

> avoid and decontaminate years ago and see how they feel about their

> possessions.

> I've already talked to many such people and I find that, similar to

> my experience, they feel that many items settled down on their own

> after a number of years.

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