Guest guest Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 Thank you! But I do not understand this Herxheimer effect...can you give me insight? Appreciate it. Ruth On Tue, 18 May 2004 14:15:06 EDT anorientaldancer@... writes: Hi Ruth, I had the herxheimer the last fews days and just read your post. I do not know much about Quail Haven just that it is 30 minutes from Tucson and the owners are selling off 1+ acres of land for $15,000 to 6 households who have MCS. You can reach Diane Ensign at (520) 575-0353.I enjoyed the website on Reiki, I am a therapist too.Even though Reiki requires no oil or Aromatherapy I do not know if I will be able to take on clients energy and fragrances.I was inspired by the link gave on MCS and I ordered Zinc, Magnesium and Cysteine to add to my collection of horse pills. I also ordered some books at www.dr.gloriagilbere.com on healing MCS.I am taking the warriors approach to knocking out the mycotoxins and symptoms hense the herxheimer effect.God Bless you on your journey to find a safe space to live. FAIR USE NOTICE: This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 Thank you! But I do not understand this Herxheimer effect...can you give me insight? Appreciate it. Ruth On Tue, 18 May 2004 14:15:06 EDT anorientaldancer@... writes: Hi Ruth, I had the herxheimer the last fews days and just read your post. I do not know much about Quail Haven just that it is 30 minutes from Tucson and the owners are selling off 1+ acres of land for $15,000 to 6 households who have MCS. You can reach Diane Ensign at (520) 575-0353.I enjoyed the website on Reiki, I am a therapist too.Even though Reiki requires no oil or Aromatherapy I do not know if I will be able to take on clients energy and fragrances.I was inspired by the link gave on MCS and I ordered Zinc, Magnesium and Cysteine to add to my collection of horse pills. I also ordered some books at www.dr.gloriagilbere.com on healing MCS.I am taking the warriors approach to knocking out the mycotoxins and symptoms hense the herxheimer effect.God Bless you on your journey to find a safe space to live. FAIR USE NOTICE: This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 All I can say is OY VEY! Might as well go and listen to Barratt MD on how to cure MCS...aka psych dx. YOu need a REAL doctor...not INTERNET so called recommended especially MINERALS that you have no concept if you are deficient in! Are you REALLY in need of them? How are they pricessed? Is it Zn Tally? Excipents you are allergic to? Try a REAL DR not a PHD who treats MCS pts. " If having endured much, we at last asserted our 'right to know' and if, knowing, we have concluded that we are being asked to take senseless and frightening risks, then we should no longer accept the counsel of those who tell us that we must fill our world with poisonous chemicals, we should look around and see what other course is open to us. " Carson " My toxicasa (world) is your toxicasa (world). " Judith Goode On Tue, 18 May 2004 anorientaldancer@... wrote: > Hi Ruth, I had the herxheimer the last fews days and just read your post. I > do not know much about Quail Haven just that it is 30 minutes from Tucson and > the owners are selling off 1+ acres of land for $15,000 to 6 households who > have MCS. You can reach Diane Ensign at (520) 575-0353.I enjoyed the website on > Reiki, I am a therapist too.Even though Reiki requires no oil or Aromatherapy I > do not know if I will be able to take on clients energy and fragrances.I was > inspired by the link gave on MCS and I ordered Zinc, Magnesium and > Cysteine to add to my collection of horse pills. I also ordered some books at > www.dr.gloriagilbere.com on healing MCS.I am taking the warriors approach to > knocking out the mycotoxins and symptoms hense the herxheimer effect.God Bless you on > your journey to find a safe space to live. > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 All I can say is OY VEY! Might as well go and listen to Barratt MD on how to cure MCS...aka psych dx. YOu need a REAL doctor...not INTERNET so called recommended especially MINERALS that you have no concept if you are deficient in! Are you REALLY in need of them? How are they pricessed? Is it Zn Tally? Excipents you are allergic to? Try a REAL DR not a PHD who treats MCS pts. " If having endured much, we at last asserted our 'right to know' and if, knowing, we have concluded that we are being asked to take senseless and frightening risks, then we should no longer accept the counsel of those who tell us that we must fill our world with poisonous chemicals, we should look around and see what other course is open to us. " Carson " My toxicasa (world) is your toxicasa (world). " Judith Goode On Tue, 18 May 2004 anorientaldancer@... wrote: > Hi Ruth, I had the herxheimer the last fews days and just read your post. I > do not know much about Quail Haven just that it is 30 minutes from Tucson and > the owners are selling off 1+ acres of land for $15,000 to 6 households who > have MCS. You can reach Diane Ensign at (520) 575-0353.I enjoyed the website on > Reiki, I am a therapist too.Even though Reiki requires no oil or Aromatherapy I > do not know if I will be able to take on clients energy and fragrances.I was > inspired by the link gave on MCS and I ordered Zinc, Magnesium and > Cysteine to add to my collection of horse pills. I also ordered some books at > www.dr.gloriagilbere.com on healing MCS.I am taking the warriors approach to > knocking out the mycotoxins and symptoms hense the herxheimer effect.God Bless you on > your journey to find a safe space to live. > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 Hi Angel, After reading your response to this other post, I must respectfully say to you that your tone is a bit heavy handed---sounds like a put down included with your message---please consider that, will you? We are all here to help one another, and we've all had enough brow-beating, and some of us need a little gentleness to help us along the way. Thanks! Ruth All I can say is OY VEY! Might as well go and listen to Barratt MD on how to cure MCS...aka psych dx. YOu need a REAL doctor...not INTERNET so called recommended especially MINERALS that you have no concept if you are deficient in! Are you REALLY in need of them? How are they pricessed? Is it Zn Tally? Excipents you are allergic to? Try a REAL DR not a PHD who treats MCS pts. " If having endured much, we at last asserted our 'right to know' and if, knowing, we have concluded that we are being asked to take senseless and frightening risks, then we should no longer accept the counsel of those who tell us that we must fill our world with poisonous chemicals, we should look around and see what other course is open to us. " Carson " My toxicasa (world) is your toxicasa (world). " Judith Goode On Tue, 18 May 2004 anorientaldancer@... wrote: > Hi Ruth, I had the herxheimer the last fews days and just read your post. I > do not know much about Quail Haven just that it is 30 minutes from Tucson and > the owners are selling off 1+ acres of land for $15,000 to 6 households who > have MCS. You can reach Diane Ensign at (520) 575-0353.I enjoyed the website on > Reiki, I am a therapist too.Even though Reiki requires no oil or Aromatherapy I > do not know if I will be able to take on clients energy and fragrances.I was > inspired by the link gave on MCS and I ordered Zinc, Magnesium and > Cysteine to add to my collection of horse pills. I also ordered some books at > www.dr.gloriagilbere.com on healing MCS.I am taking the warriors approach to > knocking out the mycotoxins and symptoms hense the herxheimer effect.God Bless you on > your journey to find a safe space to live. > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 Hi Angel, After reading your response to this other post, I must respectfully say to you that your tone is a bit heavy handed---sounds like a put down included with your message---please consider that, will you? We are all here to help one another, and we've all had enough brow-beating, and some of us need a little gentleness to help us along the way. Thanks! Ruth All I can say is OY VEY! Might as well go and listen to Barratt MD on how to cure MCS...aka psych dx. YOu need a REAL doctor...not INTERNET so called recommended especially MINERALS that you have no concept if you are deficient in! Are you REALLY in need of them? How are they pricessed? Is it Zn Tally? Excipents you are allergic to? Try a REAL DR not a PHD who treats MCS pts. " If having endured much, we at last asserted our 'right to know' and if, knowing, we have concluded that we are being asked to take senseless and frightening risks, then we should no longer accept the counsel of those who tell us that we must fill our world with poisonous chemicals, we should look around and see what other course is open to us. " Carson " My toxicasa (world) is your toxicasa (world). " Judith Goode On Tue, 18 May 2004 anorientaldancer@... wrote: > Hi Ruth, I had the herxheimer the last fews days and just read your post. I > do not know much about Quail Haven just that it is 30 minutes from Tucson and > the owners are selling off 1+ acres of land for $15,000 to 6 households who > have MCS. You can reach Diane Ensign at (520) 575-0353.I enjoyed the website on > Reiki, I am a therapist too.Even though Reiki requires no oil or Aromatherapy I > do not know if I will be able to take on clients energy and fragrances.I was > inspired by the link gave on MCS and I ordered Zinc, Magnesium and > Cysteine to add to my collection of horse pills. I also ordered some books at > www.dr.gloriagilbere.com on healing MCS.I am taking the warriors approach to > knocking out the mycotoxins and symptoms hense the herxheimer effect.God Bless you on > your journey to find a safe space to live. > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 Come on...tghis is not REAL medical advise. There are some people posting here that have a VERY slanted idea and dispensing medical advise and buying supplements on line is not a way to help someone. Mail order stuff is just that...unless its a really well known company you can be creating more harm. As someone who HEADS a foundation who deals with people with MCS I think I know at times when a kick is needed. This is not a COLD that you think that your remedy will help someone, you are placing them in MORE " danger of harming themselves. Apologize for trying to PRTOECT someone..sorry not thie MCS ACTIVIST. " If having endured much, we at last asserted our 'right to know' and if, knowing, we have concluded that we are being asked to take senseless and frightening risks, then we should no longer accept the counsel of those who tell us that we must fill our world with poisonous chemicals, we should look around and see what other course is open to us. " Carson " My toxicasa (world) is your toxicasa (world). " Judith Goode On Wed, 19 May 2004, Bryce H Ruddock wrote: > Hi Angel, > After reading your response to this other post, I must respectfully say > to you that your tone is a bit heavy handed---sounds like a put down > included with your message---please consider that, will you? We are all > here to help one another, and we've all had enough brow-beating, and some > of us need a little gentleness to help us along the way. > Thanks! > Ruth > > All I can say is OY VEY! > > Might as well go and listen to Barratt MD on how to cure MCS...aka > psych dx. > > YOu need a REAL doctor...not INTERNET so called recommended especially > MINERALS that you have no concept if you are deficient in! > > Are you REALLY > in need of them? How are they pricessed? Is it Zn Tally? Excipents you > are allergic to? > > Try a REAL DR not a PHD who treats MCS pts. > > > > " If having endured much, we at last asserted our 'right to know' and if, > knowing, we have concluded that we are being asked to take senseless and > frightening risks, then we should no longer accept the counsel of those > who tell us that we must fill our world with poisonous chemicals, we > should look around and see what other course is open to us. " > Carson > > " My toxicasa (world) is your toxicasa (world). " > Judith Goode > > > On Tue, 18 May 2004 anorientaldancer@... wrote: > > > Hi Ruth, I had the herxheimer the last fews days and just read your > post. I > > do not know much about Quail Haven just that it is 30 minutes from > Tucson and > > the owners are selling off 1+ acres of land for $15,000 to 6 households > who > > have MCS. You can reach Diane Ensign at (520) 575-0353.I enjoyed the > website on > > Reiki, I am a therapist too.Even though Reiki requires no oil or > Aromatherapy I > > do not know if I will be able to take on clients energy and > fragrances.I was > > inspired by the link gave on MCS and I ordered Zinc, Magnesium and > > Cysteine to add to my collection of horse pills. I also ordered some > books at > > www.dr.gloriagilbere.com on healing MCS.I am taking the warriors > approach to > > knocking out the mycotoxins and symptoms hense the herxheimer > effect.God Bless you on > > your journey to find a safe space to live. > > > > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > > > This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always > been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such > material available in our efforts to advance understanding of > environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, > and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' > of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US > Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the > material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have > expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for > research and educational purposes. For more information go to: > http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use > copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go > beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 Come on...tghis is not REAL medical advise. There are some people posting here that have a VERY slanted idea and dispensing medical advise and buying supplements on line is not a way to help someone. Mail order stuff is just that...unless its a really well known company you can be creating more harm. As someone who HEADS a foundation who deals with people with MCS I think I know at times when a kick is needed. This is not a COLD that you think that your remedy will help someone, you are placing them in MORE " danger of harming themselves. Apologize for trying to PRTOECT someone..sorry not thie MCS ACTIVIST. " If having endured much, we at last asserted our 'right to know' and if, knowing, we have concluded that we are being asked to take senseless and frightening risks, then we should no longer accept the counsel of those who tell us that we must fill our world with poisonous chemicals, we should look around and see what other course is open to us. " Carson " My toxicasa (world) is your toxicasa (world). " Judith Goode On Wed, 19 May 2004, Bryce H Ruddock wrote: > Hi Angel, > After reading your response to this other post, I must respectfully say > to you that your tone is a bit heavy handed---sounds like a put down > included with your message---please consider that, will you? We are all > here to help one another, and we've all had enough brow-beating, and some > of us need a little gentleness to help us along the way. > Thanks! > Ruth > > All I can say is OY VEY! > > Might as well go and listen to Barratt MD on how to cure MCS...aka > psych dx. > > YOu need a REAL doctor...not INTERNET so called recommended especially > MINERALS that you have no concept if you are deficient in! > > Are you REALLY > in need of them? How are they pricessed? Is it Zn Tally? Excipents you > are allergic to? > > Try a REAL DR not a PHD who treats MCS pts. > > > > " If having endured much, we at last asserted our 'right to know' and if, > knowing, we have concluded that we are being asked to take senseless and > frightening risks, then we should no longer accept the counsel of those > who tell us that we must fill our world with poisonous chemicals, we > should look around and see what other course is open to us. " > Carson > > " My toxicasa (world) is your toxicasa (world). " > Judith Goode > > > On Tue, 18 May 2004 anorientaldancer@... wrote: > > > Hi Ruth, I had the herxheimer the last fews days and just read your > post. I > > do not know much about Quail Haven just that it is 30 minutes from > Tucson and > > the owners are selling off 1+ acres of land for $15,000 to 6 households > who > > have MCS. You can reach Diane Ensign at (520) 575-0353.I enjoyed the > website on > > Reiki, I am a therapist too.Even though Reiki requires no oil or > Aromatherapy I > > do not know if I will be able to take on clients energy and > fragrances.I was > > inspired by the link gave on MCS and I ordered Zinc, Magnesium and > > Cysteine to add to my collection of horse pills. I also ordered some > books at > > www.dr.gloriagilbere.com on healing MCS.I am taking the warriors > approach to > > knocking out the mycotoxins and symptoms hense the herxheimer > effect.God Bless you on > > your journey to find a safe space to live. > > > > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > > > This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always > been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such > material available in our efforts to advance understanding of > environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, > and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' > of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US > Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the > material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have > expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for > research and educational purposes. For more information go to: > http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use > copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go > beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 NONE of these pissing contests is helping me. I thought that was what we do here. Share info. Some of us are more opinated then others but ALL info is helpfull. I was severely affectted by mold, now have asthma and I am also MCS and I wear a mask outside. Please stop the fighting. Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 NONE of these pissing contests is helping me. I thought that was what we do here. Share info. Some of us are more opinated then others but ALL info is helpfull. I was severely affectted by mold, now have asthma and I am also MCS and I wear a mask outside. Please stop the fighting. Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 Amen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 Amen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Here is a shock...Gilbert is not considered valid authority by any of those in the MCS arena. Ann Mc is a MD with MCS and she is not cured...WHy hasn't Sherry , Al Robbins etc., using all these lay peoples protocols? Keep whining on a group that has NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO repeat NOOOOOOOOOO chance of changing the laws. Ya want a pissing contest call and get those running for offie to do something. YOu think positng to a goup is going to effect change? NO. If you are so injured then complain get the regs changed, bring this to their attention! If you have so much energy to post here you have the energy to pick up a phone and have these issues addressed and not rely on those fighting to get things done for you. I get results....do you?! DO you have any credits to your name that made an effect on others in your state..I doubt it. DOes your SS have the protocol to determine MCS from a blanket psych dx..I doubt it ONLY and I repeat ONLY NV has that and I DID it...so do something before you throw stones! " If having endured much, we at last asserted our 'right to know' and if, knowing, we have concluded that we are being asked to take senseless and frightening risks, then we should no longer accept the counsel of those who tell us that we must fill our world with poisonous chemicals, we should look around and see what other course is open to us. " Carson " My toxicasa (world) is your toxicasa (world). " Judith Goode On Wed, 19 May 2004 anorientaldancer@... wrote: > Dear JAP 2bemc, I have been to 5 DOCTORS in the last 2 months including one > that cost thousands of dollars for testing,only to tell me I have very high > mycotoxin levels.Which did not take a brain scientist to figure out.I am > certainly not dispensing nor taking medical advice from this board or anywhere on the > internet.However I am a positive person with an open mind who wants to believe > I have a chance in getting better.The website recommended seemed genuine > and had information I found to be informative.I asked my Doctor if the > Magnesium,Zinc and Cysteine were appropriate and after he tested me I ordered the > supplements.The website I posted is one of a DOCTOR who had MCS and claims she > healed herself.If her books are helpful to myself and others than I am > grateful that information is available.Angel,I believe you may be a troll not an > angelic being! Mari > P.S Speaking of pissing contests - mine is a frothy orange brown with an > abnormal amount of protein and I drink a 10+ glasses of water. > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Here is a shock...Gilbert is not considered valid authority by any of those in the MCS arena. Ann Mc is a MD with MCS and she is not cured...WHy hasn't Sherry , Al Robbins etc., using all these lay peoples protocols? Keep whining on a group that has NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO repeat NOOOOOOOOOO chance of changing the laws. Ya want a pissing contest call and get those running for offie to do something. YOu think positng to a goup is going to effect change? NO. If you are so injured then complain get the regs changed, bring this to their attention! If you have so much energy to post here you have the energy to pick up a phone and have these issues addressed and not rely on those fighting to get things done for you. I get results....do you?! DO you have any credits to your name that made an effect on others in your state..I doubt it. DOes your SS have the protocol to determine MCS from a blanket psych dx..I doubt it ONLY and I repeat ONLY NV has that and I DID it...so do something before you throw stones! " If having endured much, we at last asserted our 'right to know' and if, knowing, we have concluded that we are being asked to take senseless and frightening risks, then we should no longer accept the counsel of those who tell us that we must fill our world with poisonous chemicals, we should look around and see what other course is open to us. " Carson " My toxicasa (world) is your toxicasa (world). " Judith Goode On Wed, 19 May 2004 anorientaldancer@... wrote: > Dear JAP 2bemc, I have been to 5 DOCTORS in the last 2 months including one > that cost thousands of dollars for testing,only to tell me I have very high > mycotoxin levels.Which did not take a brain scientist to figure out.I am > certainly not dispensing nor taking medical advice from this board or anywhere on the > internet.However I am a positive person with an open mind who wants to believe > I have a chance in getting better.The website recommended seemed genuine > and had information I found to be informative.I asked my Doctor if the > Magnesium,Zinc and Cysteine were appropriate and after he tested me I ordered the > supplements.The website I posted is one of a DOCTOR who had MCS and claims she > healed herself.If her books are helpful to myself and others than I am > grateful that information is available.Angel,I believe you may be a troll not an > angelic being! Mari > P.S Speaking of pissing contests - mine is a frothy orange brown with an > abnormal amount of protein and I drink a 10+ glasses of water. > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Hi, Thanks for this information. I have a nephew living in Tucson and will let him know about Quail Haven---he may also have some info on it. Someone, not sure who now, posted about the pesticide use on all the cotton fields in a corridor between Phoenix and Tucson---said it was a bad place to move if you have MCS. My brother lives in Sun City West, near Phoenix, and they would love it if we moved there---but in light of that latest information, I'd surely have to think twice and investigate further. I think I will follow up with calling Diane Ensign. Thanks! You're a Reiki practitioner also!!! When did you start? I'm a newbie and will have my level 2 attunement soon. I belong to a Christian Reiki group on line and find it tremendously supportive, since this is a difficult area to approach other Christians with. God is truely blessing me in my spiritual growth and I'm more excited now than I have been in years!!!! I decided to take the training as a means to help with my symptoms, and I can definitely say that it has helped with energy! Prayer is a big part of my life, now more than ever, and I can tell the difference in the intensity and connectedness I feel with God as I pray. Also, the energy that flows through my hands as I'm praying with others (as we hold hands) is tremendous!! Perhaps we could communicate more on this between our own email sites. Mine is ruthann55@... Love to hear more of your experiences. I work on my MCS health issues with a Naturapathic doc---she is laid up with a broken hip and foot right now, but still takes calls and muscle tests for appropriateness of my supplements, etc. What a blessing she is--a Christian also. I have seen ads for the Gloria Gilbeare books, etc. How did you like them? She advocates goat milk products, but I've never tried any. My husband said that the cheese was rather strong tasting--he is a real " cheese fanatic. " As far as the herxheimer effect is concerned, we all probably experience it from time to time with the things we've taken, but didn't know it. It is a comfort to know that we can trust our bodies to heal themselves (itself) with the right things. There is so much fear involved in having MCS and feeling so out of control. Don't you think? Prayer helps me so much with that aspect of the illness. Can't believe how far I've come on this health journey---when it first began (less than 2 years ago) I was scared out of my mind!!! We were running to the ER so often with what we thought was asthma!! I have no medical insurance and still too young for Medicare, so you can imagine the bills I stacked up!! My husband has just received a new cancer report--his CT scan shows metasasis into his right lung---hopefully the surgery and chemo will be scheduled quickly---we have to go into Atlanta for it---I hate the idea of driving in that traffic, but I will trust that God will provide a safe way for everything that needs to come about for us. What I was leading up to is that we will have to put our moving on hold now---living here in Georgia has been a big problem for me with my respiratory reactions---the humidity is the worst part. So how long we have to wait to move is still not clear. Take care, Ruth On Tue, 18 May 2004 14:15:06 EDT anorientaldancer@... writes: Hi Ruth, I had the herxheimer the last fews days and just read your post. I do not know much about Quail Haven just that it is 30 minutes from Tucson and the owners are selling off 1+ acres of land for $15,000 to 6 households who have MCS. You can reach Diane Ensign at (520) 575-0353.I enjoyed the website on Reiki, I am a therapist too.Even though Reiki requires no oil or Aromatherapy I do not know if I will be able to take on clients energy and fragrances.I was inspired by the link gave on MCS and I ordered Zinc, Magnesium and Cysteine to add to my collection of horse pills. I also ordered some books at www.dr.gloriagilbere.com on healing MCS.I am taking the warriors approach to knocking out the mycotoxins and symptoms hense the herxheimer effect.God Bless you on your journey to find a safe space to live. FAIR USE NOTICE: This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. 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Guest guest Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Hi, Thanks for this information. I have a nephew living in Tucson and will let him know about Quail Haven---he may also have some info on it. Someone, not sure who now, posted about the pesticide use on all the cotton fields in a corridor between Phoenix and Tucson---said it was a bad place to move if you have MCS. My brother lives in Sun City West, near Phoenix, and they would love it if we moved there---but in light of that latest information, I'd surely have to think twice and investigate further. I think I will follow up with calling Diane Ensign. Thanks! You're a Reiki practitioner also!!! When did you start? I'm a newbie and will have my level 2 attunement soon. I belong to a Christian Reiki group on line and find it tremendously supportive, since this is a difficult area to approach other Christians with. God is truely blessing me in my spiritual growth and I'm more excited now than I have been in years!!!! I decided to take the training as a means to help with my symptoms, and I can definitely say that it has helped with energy! Prayer is a big part of my life, now more than ever, and I can tell the difference in the intensity and connectedness I feel with God as I pray. Also, the energy that flows through my hands as I'm praying with others (as we hold hands) is tremendous!! Perhaps we could communicate more on this between our own email sites. Mine is ruthann55@... Love to hear more of your experiences. I work on my MCS health issues with a Naturapathic doc---she is laid up with a broken hip and foot right now, but still takes calls and muscle tests for appropriateness of my supplements, etc. What a blessing she is--a Christian also. I have seen ads for the Gloria Gilbeare books, etc. How did you like them? She advocates goat milk products, but I've never tried any. My husband said that the cheese was rather strong tasting--he is a real " cheese fanatic. " As far as the herxheimer effect is concerned, we all probably experience it from time to time with the things we've taken, but didn't know it. It is a comfort to know that we can trust our bodies to heal themselves (itself) with the right things. There is so much fear involved in having MCS and feeling so out of control. Don't you think? Prayer helps me so much with that aspect of the illness. Can't believe how far I've come on this health journey---when it first began (less than 2 years ago) I was scared out of my mind!!! We were running to the ER so often with what we thought was asthma!! I have no medical insurance and still too young for Medicare, so you can imagine the bills I stacked up!! My husband has just received a new cancer report--his CT scan shows metasasis into his right lung---hopefully the surgery and chemo will be scheduled quickly---we have to go into Atlanta for it---I hate the idea of driving in that traffic, but I will trust that God will provide a safe way for everything that needs to come about for us. What I was leading up to is that we will have to put our moving on hold now---living here in Georgia has been a big problem for me with my respiratory reactions---the humidity is the worst part. So how long we have to wait to move is still not clear. Take care, Ruth On Tue, 18 May 2004 14:15:06 EDT anorientaldancer@... writes: Hi Ruth, I had the herxheimer the last fews days and just read your post. I do not know much about Quail Haven just that it is 30 minutes from Tucson and the owners are selling off 1+ acres of land for $15,000 to 6 households who have MCS. You can reach Diane Ensign at (520) 575-0353.I enjoyed the website on Reiki, I am a therapist too.Even though Reiki requires no oil or Aromatherapy I do not know if I will be able to take on clients energy and fragrances.I was inspired by the link gave on MCS and I ordered Zinc, Magnesium and Cysteine to add to my collection of horse pills. I also ordered some books at www.dr.gloriagilbere.com on healing MCS.I am taking the warriors approach to knocking out the mycotoxins and symptoms hense the herxheimer effect.God Bless you on your journey to find a safe space to live. FAIR USE NOTICE: This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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