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In a message dated 5/26/03 9:05:58 PM Central Daylight Time,

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> Yeah, I understand that, but geez, can he really be eating so

> little? I know my friends' kids sometimes exist on air it seems, I'm

> just not used to dealing with it...

>

LOL...I have one of each. My 6 yo appears to live on sunshine, air, and

breakfast. My 5 yo eats like a combination hippy/trucker (picture him shoving in

sushi with both hands). They're both high-energy and skinny and healthy.

Meagan

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> The Ojibwa Tea seemed to benefit my son with the die-off. No

> more head banging. Even if Dr. Goldberg is correct with the " viral "

> theory the Ojibwa Tea still makes sense because it is a gentle slow

> killer of viral and bacterial bugs.

>

Could I get that phone number, too?

Meagan

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In a message dated 5/26/03 9:05:58 PM Central Daylight Time,

writes:

> The Ojibwa Tea seemed to benefit my son with the die-off. No

> more head banging. Even if Dr. Goldberg is correct with the " viral "

> theory the Ojibwa Tea still makes sense because it is a gentle slow

> killer of viral and bacterial bugs.

>

Could I get that phone number, too?

Meagan

Christian 6

5

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five.

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She knows for sure that this diet

works because if she gets lazy with it like eating tomatoes or shell

fish

I have had success with the above as well. For the last twelve weeks I have

been keeping a diary of all I eat, and then scoring my pain against that . I

noticed that on one day of the week in particular I was getting a bit more

pain than the others ?? It turns out that every Monday I was having

Spaghetti Bolognase (sounds stupid I know) Anyway I have cut out the

spaghetti bolognase and all other Tomatoes from my diet (chilli's, pasta

sauces, crisps.tomato sauce etc etc)and would you believe it my pain is a

lot less (placebo effect maybe?? Maybe not ) Anyway to test my theory I ate

a pasta dish full of Tomato based sauce about three weeks ago and low and

behold I had a couple of painful days following this !!! You may remember I

posted a while back to say I was thinking of going on MTX because the pain

was getting slowly worse. Well it's still in the cupboard waiting for me to

take it... that was 8 weeks ago. I'm also taking Glucosamine and Omega 3

once a day along with my COX II drug Arcoxia. keep your fingers crossed that

I can keep that MTX locked away !!!

Micky

London

[Ed. Note: Spaghetti Bolognase, is that Spaghetti with Baloney? LOL, just

kidding. Ron]

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In a message dated 11/26/2003 7:12:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,

candidiasis writes:

No I personally cannot go without carbs, not because I am addicted but

because I suffer with hypoglycaemia and I have tried doing without, I wouldn't

have

much left to eat if I didn't as I am piscoperian (only eat fish, no meat) and

am gluten, dairy intolerant.

I follow the diet of a practitioner called a White, she doesn't say no

carbs. Infact no UK one does!

Regards

Jane

With hypoglycemia you should not be eating sugar anyway

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:26:54 EST

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With hypoglycemia you should not be eating sugar anyway

I don't eat any sugar

Jane

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MYCOTOXINS & VOC's - by Randy Penn

You can find a lot of information on mold, but trying to understand it may

be difficult to those who didn't take biology and chemistry. Even after

stumbling through the pronunciation of these words, not everyone can

comprehend what was meant by the statement.

" Satratoxin, a low-molecular weight non-volatile organically derived agent,

belongs to the macrocyclic trichothecene class of mycotoxins generated from

fungal microorganisms. "

As an aid to the homeowner, this overview is intended to explain a few bad

products of mold in a less scientific manner. It will focus on those types

of mold that have been considered as problematic to the " indoor mold issue "

and does not address other fungal organisms which may behave differently.

Analogies presented are not intended to be scientifically accurate, but

rather to illustrate complex behaviors in more simple terms.

The people who study mold (mycologists) have identified and described over

100,000 species and many believe that this is only a partial listing

(estimates of 1.5 million species have been suggested). Try jotting down the

names of the first 100,000 people you know then describe each person's

behavior in a specific setting. You will begin to understand the

complexities of the problem facing these mold professionals.

Most people have associated mold with allergies and these reactions are

certainly prevalent with most all species found indoors. In addition to

causing an allergic response, molds can be irritating, infectious and even

toxic to humans. Understanding the general behavior of mold provides insight

into the adverse components produced by mold.

The Organism

Fungi can be considered nature's garbage disposal. Without them, the term

" biodegradable " would not be so significant to our planet and we would have

mountains of leaves, dead trees, and other organic materials sitting

around.all deposited since the beginning of time. This, in simple terms, is

the 'why' of mold.

For the moment, think of mold as a weed. This weed has a root system, a

vegetative stalk, and a seed pod. For mold, the root system is made up of

hyphae (high-fee). As hyphae grows into a mass during the vegetative state,

it becomes a mycelium (my-sill-ee-um). The spores, designed for

reproduction, are similar to seeds.

Like a weed, mold needs food and water to survive (yes, both need more than

that, however, we are simplifying things here). For mold, the food of

preference is organic matter (things that once were living). Indoors, those

things are wood, paper, organic dust and dirt, leather, skin flakes, body

oils, etc.

When mold spores that are floating around in the air land on a food source,

they sit there patiently waiting for water. If the item they land on should

contain sufficient moisture, or water comes from another source (leaks,

etc.), the spore germinates and hyphae grows. The hyphae branch out, secrete

enzymes to breakdown the food, form the mycelium, and absorb nutrients to

grow. As long as the food and water hold out, colonies will continue to

grow. Note that individual hyphae and spores are very, very small and few

can see them without a microscope. When you see visible mold, you are

generally seeing that mass of mycelium.

Hyphae can intertwine into the fibers of the substrate, penetrating the

pores. As it consumes the substrate, it can also create it's own route by

dissolving pathways into the material. This is one of the reasons it is so

difficult to kill and/or clean up mold on organic substrates. If you remove

the surface growth, those bits of hyphae within the substrate are ready for

re-growth upon the return of moisture.

As the organism matures, it develops spores intended for reproduction.

Spores vary in size, shape, weight and methods of distribution. Some are

light and buoyant so they float easily through the air. Others are wet and

sticky and may cling to insects, rodents, etc. as a mode of travel.

Volatile Organic Compounds

As mold " consumes " it's food, the chemical reactions of enzymes, substrates

and mold growth produce carbon dioxide, water, and volatile organic

compounds (VOC's). Because these items are a result of actions essential to

the growth of the organism, they are classified as primary metabolites.

For mold, many types of VOC's are produced and typically include aldehydes,

alcohols, keytones, and hydrocarbons. They have complex structures and names

like " 2-methyl-1-propanol " , so if you are going to dig deeper into VOC's,

get ready for chemistry class.

They are called volatile in that they evaporate easily at room temperature

and pressure. Fortunately, this volatility aids in dilution with fresh air

to minimize concentrated build-up of these chemicals. Testing for VOC's is

often accomplished by using vacuum cylinders to obtain samples of the air

with laboratory analysis obtained from sophisticated test instruments (gas

chromatograph/mass spectrometer).

When you smell a " musty-moldy " odor, it's generally the VOC's you are

noticing. VOC's are often considered irritants to mucus membranes, however,

are also capable of both short-term and long-term adverse health effects. If

you do smell these odors, it's a sure sign the mold is consuming and growing

and you need to take action. (Note that VOC's may also be derived from

non-mold sources including natural materials used in cleaning agents.)

Toxins

Many molds are capable of producing compounds called mycotoxins which are

toxic to other organisms, including people. Mycologists believe these toxins

are produced as protection against competing organisms and therefore, humans

are simply caught in the cross-fire of this fight for survival.

Since these toxins are not essential for growth, they are classified as

secondary metabolites. Toxic secondary metabolites require extra work on the

part of the organism so production does not occur at all times, or, with all

types of mold.

Scientists have identified over 400 mycotoxins and unlike VOC's, these

compounds are usually non-volatile (don't evaporate easily at room

temperature and pressure). One strain of mold may produce multiple toxins

and one type of toxin may be produced by multiple strains of mold. Research

has indicated that the type of substrate (nutrients), the growing

conditions, together with the species of mold, will impact which toxins are

created.

Some of these toxic substances are considered extremely hazardous to people,

unfortunately, quantified human dose-response data is limited. Lab and field

studies have shown these compounds to produce severe toxic effects in both

animals and humans and therefore, the general recommendation is to minimize

exposure to potentially toxigenic mold. Symptoms from toxic exposure range

from flu-like symptoms, skin rashes and lesions, bleeding, fatigue,

difficulty breathing, depression, etc. to longer-term nerve and organ

problems, altered immunity, and cancer.

Not all secondary metabolites are considered bad for people.the antibiotics

such as penicillin have beneficial use. However, from the mycological

standpoint, antibiotics are considered mycotoxins since they too are

generated by mold to ward off microorganisms (i.e. competing bacteria).

When the organism is producing toxins, the toxins are known to be present in

the cell wall of spores and hyphae. It's relatively easy to test for spores

and hyphae, however, testing these components to see if they contain toxins

is significantly more complex. Whereas a single spore can be viewed under a

microscope, identifying what compounds are contained in the cell wall is

difficult.

In order to identify these toxic compounds, laboratories must have a

sufficient quantity of toxin-containing spores and carefully process them

through sophisticated and expensive equipment that is capable of isolating

chemicals down to billionths of an gram (remember, mold spores are

microscopic so what is contained within it's cell wall is extremely small).

This testing is made even more difficult since there are a few hundred

toxins to analyze and the behavior of mold is such that a toxin-producing

mold in the field doesn't necessarily produce the same type and quantity of

toxins in the lab.

Generally speaking, identifying a mold type that is known to be capable of

producing toxins is sufficient information to warrant precautions and avoid

exposure without submitting for toxic analysis. However, if trying to

confirm specific adverse health effects, obtaining an analysis of both VOC's

and toxins can be beneficial but often expensive.

Randy Penn is an independent licensed real estate inspector (Texas #5491)

who specializes in mold testing and specimen recovery. He has a Bachelor of

Science degree in engineering, is a member of the Indoor Air Quality

Association, has invested hundreds of hours in researching and training on

fungal microorganisms, has completed IAQA's workshop on mold remediation and

has provided mold related presentations to homeowners and real estate

professionals.

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Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 11:22 AM

Subject: [] Digest Number 1975

>

> There are 6 messages in this issue.

>

> Topics in this digest:

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> 1. Re: Re: The truth about mycotoxin related illnesses.

> From: Bryce H Ruddock <brycervics@...>

> 2. Re: Re: The truth about mycotoxin related illnesses.

> From: Gingersnap1964@...

> 3. Re: The truth about mycotoxin related illnesses.

> From: " erik_johnson_96140 " <erikj6@...>

> 4. Re: The truth about mycotoxin related illnesses.

> From: " erik_johnson_96140 " <erikj6@...>

> 5. Fungal Infection Appears Common Among Urban Kids

> From: " tigerpaw2c " <tigerpaw2C@...>

> 6. Re: Fungal Infection Appears Common Among Urban Kids

> From: Patilla DaHun <glypella@...>

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> Message: 1

> Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 08:09:55 -0400

> From: Bryce H Ruddock <brycervics@...>

> Subject: Re: Re: The truth about mycotoxin related illnesses.

>

> , I agree with you 100% on that last sentence you spoke!!!! The more

> that you trust yourself, the more fear leaves and confidence

> returns---that has been my experience. I think that fear has kept so many

> of us in a panic, trying to find this answer and that answer. Scripture

> tells us " Be still and know that I am God. " I think God is telling me to

> " be still and go within myself " to find the peacefulness I seek with this

> condition called MCS.

> Ruth

>

> > Now, I can see why Grace Ziem didn't want to talk to you.

>

> Yes. Nor a great many others.

> I'm a pain in the butt because I tell it like it is.

> The IEQ people cannot help you.

> See how they attack the credibility of those who complain of

> mycotoxin exposure?

> I suffered for years because I listened to them.

> Now I trust only my own perceptions.

> If you want to get out of this, you are going to have to quit looking

> for tests and rely on the best indicator of exposure you've got.

> Yourself.

> -

>

>

>

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MYCOTOXINS & VOC's - by Randy Penn

You can find a lot of information on mold, but trying to understand it may

be difficult to those who didn't take biology and chemistry. Even after

stumbling through the pronunciation of these words, not everyone can

comprehend what was meant by the statement.

" Satratoxin, a low-molecular weight non-volatile organically derived agent,

belongs to the macrocyclic trichothecene class of mycotoxins generated from

fungal microorganisms. "

As an aid to the homeowner, this overview is intended to explain a few bad

products of mold in a less scientific manner. It will focus on those types

of mold that have been considered as problematic to the " indoor mold issue "

and does not address other fungal organisms which may behave differently.

Analogies presented are not intended to be scientifically accurate, but

rather to illustrate complex behaviors in more simple terms.

The people who study mold (mycologists) have identified and described over

100,000 species and many believe that this is only a partial listing

(estimates of 1.5 million species have been suggested). Try jotting down the

names of the first 100,000 people you know then describe each person's

behavior in a specific setting. You will begin to understand the

complexities of the problem facing these mold professionals.

Most people have associated mold with allergies and these reactions are

certainly prevalent with most all species found indoors. In addition to

causing an allergic response, molds can be irritating, infectious and even

toxic to humans. Understanding the general behavior of mold provides insight

into the adverse components produced by mold.

The Organism

Fungi can be considered nature's garbage disposal. Without them, the term

" biodegradable " would not be so significant to our planet and we would have

mountains of leaves, dead trees, and other organic materials sitting

around.all deposited since the beginning of time. This, in simple terms, is

the 'why' of mold.

For the moment, think of mold as a weed. This weed has a root system, a

vegetative stalk, and a seed pod. For mold, the root system is made up of

hyphae (high-fee). As hyphae grows into a mass during the vegetative state,

it becomes a mycelium (my-sill-ee-um). The spores, designed for

reproduction, are similar to seeds.

Like a weed, mold needs food and water to survive (yes, both need more than

that, however, we are simplifying things here). For mold, the food of

preference is organic matter (things that once were living). Indoors, those

things are wood, paper, organic dust and dirt, leather, skin flakes, body

oils, etc.

When mold spores that are floating around in the air land on a food source,

they sit there patiently waiting for water. If the item they land on should

contain sufficient moisture, or water comes from another source (leaks,

etc.), the spore germinates and hyphae grows. The hyphae branch out, secrete

enzymes to breakdown the food, form the mycelium, and absorb nutrients to

grow. As long as the food and water hold out, colonies will continue to

grow. Note that individual hyphae and spores are very, very small and few

can see them without a microscope. When you see visible mold, you are

generally seeing that mass of mycelium.

Hyphae can intertwine into the fibers of the substrate, penetrating the

pores. As it consumes the substrate, it can also create it's own route by

dissolving pathways into the material. This is one of the reasons it is so

difficult to kill and/or clean up mold on organic substrates. If you remove

the surface growth, those bits of hyphae within the substrate are ready for

re-growth upon the return of moisture.

As the organism matures, it develops spores intended for reproduction.

Spores vary in size, shape, weight and methods of distribution. Some are

light and buoyant so they float easily through the air. Others are wet and

sticky and may cling to insects, rodents, etc. as a mode of travel.

Volatile Organic Compounds

As mold " consumes " it's food, the chemical reactions of enzymes, substrates

and mold growth produce carbon dioxide, water, and volatile organic

compounds (VOC's). Because these items are a result of actions essential to

the growth of the organism, they are classified as primary metabolites.

For mold, many types of VOC's are produced and typically include aldehydes,

alcohols, keytones, and hydrocarbons. They have complex structures and names

like " 2-methyl-1-propanol " , so if you are going to dig deeper into VOC's,

get ready for chemistry class.

They are called volatile in that they evaporate easily at room temperature

and pressure. Fortunately, this volatility aids in dilution with fresh air

to minimize concentrated build-up of these chemicals. Testing for VOC's is

often accomplished by using vacuum cylinders to obtain samples of the air

with laboratory analysis obtained from sophisticated test instruments (gas

chromatograph/mass spectrometer).

When you smell a " musty-moldy " odor, it's generally the VOC's you are

noticing. VOC's are often considered irritants to mucus membranes, however,

are also capable of both short-term and long-term adverse health effects. If

you do smell these odors, it's a sure sign the mold is consuming and growing

and you need to take action. (Note that VOC's may also be derived from

non-mold sources including natural materials used in cleaning agents.)

Toxins

Many molds are capable of producing compounds called mycotoxins which are

toxic to other organisms, including people. Mycologists believe these toxins

are produced as protection against competing organisms and therefore, humans

are simply caught in the cross-fire of this fight for survival.

Since these toxins are not essential for growth, they are classified as

secondary metabolites. Toxic secondary metabolites require extra work on the

part of the organism so production does not occur at all times, or, with all

types of mold.

Scientists have identified over 400 mycotoxins and unlike VOC's, these

compounds are usually non-volatile (don't evaporate easily at room

temperature and pressure). One strain of mold may produce multiple toxins

and one type of toxin may be produced by multiple strains of mold. Research

has indicated that the type of substrate (nutrients), the growing

conditions, together with the species of mold, will impact which toxins are

created.

Some of these toxic substances are considered extremely hazardous to people,

unfortunately, quantified human dose-response data is limited. Lab and field

studies have shown these compounds to produce severe toxic effects in both

animals and humans and therefore, the general recommendation is to minimize

exposure to potentially toxigenic mold. Symptoms from toxic exposure range

from flu-like symptoms, skin rashes and lesions, bleeding, fatigue,

difficulty breathing, depression, etc. to longer-term nerve and organ

problems, altered immunity, and cancer.

Not all secondary metabolites are considered bad for people.the antibiotics

such as penicillin have beneficial use. However, from the mycological

standpoint, antibiotics are considered mycotoxins since they too are

generated by mold to ward off microorganisms (i.e. competing bacteria).

When the organism is producing toxins, the toxins are known to be present in

the cell wall of spores and hyphae. It's relatively easy to test for spores

and hyphae, however, testing these components to see if they contain toxins

is significantly more complex. Whereas a single spore can be viewed under a

microscope, identifying what compounds are contained in the cell wall is

difficult.

In order to identify these toxic compounds, laboratories must have a

sufficient quantity of toxin-containing spores and carefully process them

through sophisticated and expensive equipment that is capable of isolating

chemicals down to billionths of an gram (remember, mold spores are

microscopic so what is contained within it's cell wall is extremely small).

This testing is made even more difficult since there are a few hundred

toxins to analyze and the behavior of mold is such that a toxin-producing

mold in the field doesn't necessarily produce the same type and quantity of

toxins in the lab.

Generally speaking, identifying a mold type that is known to be capable of

producing toxins is sufficient information to warrant precautions and avoid

exposure without submitting for toxic analysis. However, if trying to

confirm specific adverse health effects, obtaining an analysis of both VOC's

and toxins can be beneficial but often expensive.

Randy Penn is an independent licensed real estate inspector (Texas #5491)

who specializes in mold testing and specimen recovery. He has a Bachelor of

Science degree in engineering, is a member of the Indoor Air Quality

Association, has invested hundreds of hours in researching and training on

fungal microorganisms, has completed IAQA's workshop on mold remediation and

has provided mold related presentations to homeowners and real estate

professionals.

----- Original Message -----

From: < >

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Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 11:22 AM

Subject: [] Digest Number 1975

>

> There are 6 messages in this issue.

>

> Topics in this digest:

>

> 1. Re: Re: The truth about mycotoxin related illnesses.

> From: Bryce H Ruddock <brycervics@...>

> 2. Re: Re: The truth about mycotoxin related illnesses.

> From: Gingersnap1964@...

> 3. Re: The truth about mycotoxin related illnesses.

> From: " erik_johnson_96140 " <erikj6@...>

> 4. Re: The truth about mycotoxin related illnesses.

> From: " erik_johnson_96140 " <erikj6@...>

> 5. Fungal Infection Appears Common Among Urban Kids

> From: " tigerpaw2c " <tigerpaw2C@...>

> 6. Re: Fungal Infection Appears Common Among Urban Kids

> From: Patilla DaHun <glypella@...>

>

>

> ________________________________________________________________________

> ________________________________________________________________________

>

> Message: 1

> Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 08:09:55 -0400

> From: Bryce H Ruddock <brycervics@...>

> Subject: Re: Re: The truth about mycotoxin related illnesses.

>

> , I agree with you 100% on that last sentence you spoke!!!! The more

> that you trust yourself, the more fear leaves and confidence

> returns---that has been my experience. I think that fear has kept so many

> of us in a panic, trying to find this answer and that answer. Scripture

> tells us " Be still and know that I am God. " I think God is telling me to

> " be still and go within myself " to find the peacefulness I seek with this

> condition called MCS.

> Ruth

>

> > Now, I can see why Grace Ziem didn't want to talk to you.

>

> Yes. Nor a great many others.

> I'm a pain in the butt because I tell it like it is.

> The IEQ people cannot help you.

> See how they attack the credibility of those who complain of

> mycotoxin exposure?

> I suffered for years because I listened to them.

> Now I trust only my own perceptions.

> If you want to get out of this, you are going to have to quit looking

> for tests and rely on the best indicator of exposure you've got.

> Yourself.

> -

>

>

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>

> This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always

> been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such

> material available in our efforts to advance understanding of

> environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific,

> and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use'

> of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US

> Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the

> material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have

> expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for

> research and educational purposes. For more information go to:

> http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use

> copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go

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> Message: 2

> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 04:47:01 -0000

> From: " strush2005 " <strush2005@...>

> Subject: black hull powder for 21 day parasite cleanse

>

> Hello everyone, I just purchased the herbs for the 21 day parasite

> cleanse. However, the recipe refers to the black hull tincture instead

> of the capsule form. What is the conversion rate for the capsules?

> Thank you so much! Edwin

>

I just looked at the .com booklet which came with the parasite herbs:

day 1 - 1 drop or 1 capsule

day 2 - 2 drops or 1 capsule

day 3 - 3 drops or 1 capsule

day 4 - 4 drops or 1 capsule

day 5 - 5 drops or 1 capsule

day 6 - 2 teaspoons or 2 capsules

day 13 - 2 teaspoons or 2 capsules - continue to take once a week for

a year.

Perhaps someone else with more knowledge could add a little more here - e.g.

is this just for cancer and do others take less, and what happens after the

year?

Val

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I think from memory the normal strength tincture=2 caps and the extra strength

tincture=5 caps.

This is the weekly maintenance for anybody , 5bwh, 7 cloves, 7 wormwood.

Will try and find where i read that.

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> Message: 2

> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 04:47:01 -0000

> From: " strush2005 " <strush2005@...>

> Subject: black hull powder for 21 day parasite cleanse

>

> Hello everyone, I just purchased the herbs for the 21 day parasite

> cleanse. However, the recipe refers to the black hull tincture instead

> of the capsule form. What is the conversion rate for the capsules?

> Thank you so much! Edwin

>

I just looked at the .com booklet which came with the parasite herbs:

day 1 - 1 drop or 1 capsule

day 2 - 2 drops or 1 capsule

day 3 - 3 drops or 1 capsule

day 4 - 4 drops or 1 capsule

day 5 - 5 drops or 1 capsule

day 6 - 2 teaspoons or 2 capsules

day 13 - 2 teaspoons or 2 capsules - continue to take once a week for

a year.

Perhaps someone else with more knowledge could add a little more here - e.g.

is this just for cancer and do others take less, and what happens after the

year?

Val

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Hiya, ,

I am going to have my processor replaced because of the ticking despite

it disappearing after a night in the dry aid. It does return, and whatever

the reason, a new or reprocessed processor is in order. This happened to me

once before, and the replaced one is doing just fine, no returned ticking or

clicking. I am using only the one processor right now, so I'll wait until my

next

appointment to exchange it. My audi did offer to do it all by mail, but I

don't want to give it up because the other processor's maps aren't as good.

I'm glad you did something about yours right away. There is no point in waiting

for a small problem to get worse! :o) Take care, and, by the way, you've

already won the award in my book!

:o) Jackie

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Hi Jackie,

Thanks for your reply! <smile> I can understand why you chose to wait before

sending your second processor in. I would have too -- especially if the map

on the ticking processor was better than the other. I'm glad I'm not the

only one experiencing this. My audi thought it would be best that I send my

processor in. The ticking wasn't all that loud and something I could ignore,

but she thought it would be best to send it in for a replacement so that it

wouldn't negatively affect my hearing and speech understanding if the

problem became worse. With my university courses resuming in September, it's

probably best I take care of it now instead of later when I'm in the middle

of finals or a large class project. You know how " " always shows up at

the wrong time. LOL!

Implanted: 12/22/04 Activated: 1/18/05

Deafblind/Postlingual

BTE hearing aid user 20 years

Severe-profound hearing loss 10 years

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Regarding chelation: We have been doing chelation with my son. There has been some gain, but at the same time, it makes him yeasty, so it's been a slow process for him. From what I understand, Mercury may not show up until other heavy metals have started to decline. My son did not present with mercury until other metals were removed and then it began to show up. We've been using the oral DMSA, and transdermal glutithione cream. We will be using ALA once we get to a certain level.

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Regarding chelation: We have been doing chelation with my son. There has been some gain, but at the same time, it makes him yeasty, so it's been a slow process for him. From what I understand, Mercury may not show up until other heavy metals have started to decline. My son did not present with mercury until other metals were removed and then it began to show up. We've been using the oral DMSA, and transdermal glutithione cream. We will be using ALA once we get to a certain level.

--------- chelation > > > Has anyone tried chelation therapy for his child? i want to know someone who > has noticed improvement in an autistic child. > thahk you . > > , mother of Nacho 8 yrs old, autistic > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ > countries) for 2¢/min or less. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "autism" on the web. > > b..

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