Re: newbie with questions...

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In a message dated 5/4/2004 7:41:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, meredith.weiss@... writes:

- I work for the Department of Public Health of a large City.... and our building is not in the greatest shape...I've worked here for 5 years... we've had a running joke that you need to "immunize" yourself to the building - as every person who is new to the building gets a serious upper respiratory infection within the first 6 months of working here..

I was the industrial hygienist/IAQ expert at a major city Public Health dept that had a similar problem. The director chose to address the problem by calling in OSHA. This was way back in 1996. I was not ever contacted to supply assistance. I happened to be present when OSHA ran their 'tests' and inspection. They tested for the wrong things (e.g., used a basic IAQ sampler to get RH, temp, O2, and CO2 readings - nothing else.) Not surprisingly they reported the building (a single area! sampled once for 5 hours) was safe and normal. The director wrote a memo telling everyone what OSHA said, and simply put the matter to rest - forever. I very publicly challenged the results as being worthless. Nothing happened. I believe complaints continue to this day.

Basically, Meredith, welcome to the world of politics and public service.

To answer your question, there is no real easy, i.e., sneaky, way to test for cause of the health problems you and your coworkers report. I wish you luck. You will probably have to either find or yourself become the squeaky wheel!

(contrary to popular belief, I actually do know what it's like to live/work in a problem building with building related illness and with ultimately no where to turn except, as Meridth ponders, to quit and work elsewhere)

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In a message dated 5/4/2004 7:41:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, meredith.weiss@... writes:

- I work for the Department of Public Health of a large City.... and our building is not in the greatest shape...I've worked here for 5 years... we've had a running joke that you need to "immunize" yourself to the building - as every person who is new to the building gets a serious upper respiratory infection within the first 6 months of working here..

I was the industrial hygienist/IAQ expert at a major city Public Health dept that had a similar problem. The director chose to address the problem by calling in OSHA. This was way back in 1996. I was not ever contacted to supply assistance. I happened to be present when OSHA ran their 'tests' and inspection. They tested for the wrong things (e.g., used a basic IAQ sampler to get RH, temp, O2, and CO2 readings - nothing else.) Not surprisingly they reported the building (a single area! sampled once for 5 hours) was safe and normal. The director wrote a memo telling everyone what OSHA said, and simply put the matter to rest - forever. I very publicly challenged the results as being worthless. Nothing happened. I believe complaints continue to this day.

Basically, Meredith, welcome to the world of politics and public service.

To answer your question, there is no real easy, i.e., sneaky, way to test for cause of the health problems you and your coworkers report. I wish you luck. You will probably have to either find or yourself become the squeaky wheel!

(contrary to popular belief, I actually do know what it's like to live/work in a problem building with building related illness and with ultimately no where to turn except, as Meridth ponders, to quit and work elsewhere)

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I too am a public employee in a sick building. Have

your union call in your state OSHA to do testing.

[Guest guest]

I too am a public employee in a sick building. Have

your union call in your state OSHA to do testing.

[Guest guest]

Unfortunately, I am a " consultant " , and therefore have no union

representation... I could talk to my co-workers and see if there is

anyone who is union who would be willing to call in OSHA on our

behalfs... but I am not sure how helpful this would be - as has been

illustrated already by a few folks here, and from what I have read

from the OSHA and EPA sites - the testing that is done by OSHA

doesn't necessarily test for floating dust particles, or mold spores,

etc.

Also - I'm probably in the minority of people, if not the only

person, who is suffering ill effects from the state of the

building... most employees just look at it as " the maintenance crew

is just lazy " and leave it at that...

(This may also make the union not want to act on the problem - since,

if they find a problem, a lot of the blame may lie with their own

people who don't do their jobs properly...)

Good news though - I spoke with my boss about my doctor's concerns -

and she said she would take it up with the division head, and we'll

see where it goes from there...

Thanks everyone!

-Meri

[Guest guest]

Unfortunately, I am a " consultant " , and therefore have no union

representation... I could talk to my co-workers and see if there is

anyone who is union who would be willing to call in OSHA on our

behalfs... but I am not sure how helpful this would be - as has been

illustrated already by a few folks here, and from what I have read

from the OSHA and EPA sites - the testing that is done by OSHA

doesn't necessarily test for floating dust particles, or mold spores,

etc.

Also - I'm probably in the minority of people, if not the only

person, who is suffering ill effects from the state of the

building... most employees just look at it as " the maintenance crew

is just lazy " and leave it at that...

(This may also make the union not want to act on the problem - since,

if they find a problem, a lot of the blame may lie with their own

people who don't do their jobs properly...)

Good news though - I spoke with my boss about my doctor's concerns -

and she said she would take it up with the division head, and we'll

see where it goes from there...

Thanks everyone!

-Meri

[Guest guest]

....it's the right stuff.

the question you asked indicate you haven't done your reading on MMS which

is a really really good idea before messing with it.

> [ ] newbie with questions...

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> hi there,

> i just ordered our first bottle of mms from globallight.net. on the

> bottle it says distilled water and %28 sodium chlorite. i thought

> there was supposed to be oxygen in there somewhere...chlorine dioxide

> actually. is this the right stuff?

>

> my boyfriend has been diagnosed with lymphoma. he has been on the dr.

> kelley (gerson) protocol and was getting better, but now has relapsed

> so we are trying this now instead:

> http://www.new-cancer-treatments.org/Cancer/OCC.html which is a high

> dose transdermal mms treatment with a different diet protocol.

> anyone here ever done it that would be willing to share their

> experience--or anyone have experience w/ mms and cancer (or better yet

> lymphoma)?

>

> thanks so much,

> sabine.

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