Re: Digest Number 1958

[Guest guest]

A Life Altering Experience is exactly what those like me have done. Home with air cleaners. 3M masks in old buildings. Asthma near mold so I cant even sit on the ground. All friends and boyfriend are gone as they didn't understand and couldn't take it. Loss of job, life, love, hope and faith. Hard combination and a few good pills. I keep hunting for answers. That's why I tried these neutralizing antigens. Bad news for me. But I will prevail no matter how low I get. Ive been away from that moldy dungeon for a year now and still battling. I was in there eight years. can tell you, it was horrible. I put the pictures on here before. I feel like a guinea pig for the doctors around here and now have to support myself on less then half my income. MOLD IS THY ENEMY!

[Guest guest]

A Life Altering Experience is exactly what those like me have done. Home with air cleaners. 3M masks in old buildings. Asthma near mold so I cant even sit on the ground. All friends and boyfriend are gone as they didn't understand and couldn't take it. Loss of job, life, love, hope and faith. Hard combination and a few good pills. I keep hunting for answers. That's why I tried these neutralizing antigens. Bad news for me. But I will prevail no matter how low I get. Ive been away from that moldy dungeon for a year now and still battling. I was in there eight years. can tell you, it was horrible. I put the pictures on here before. I feel like a guinea pig for the doctors around here and now have to support myself on less then half my income. MOLD IS THY ENEMY!

[Guest guest]

Thanks Dr Lipsey. That obfusticating factors make this entire

syndrome appear as sheer insanity.

It is maddening beyond belief to not only have to deal with this,

but to just " tell it like it is " and have people respond as if they

had been bludgeoned with some blunt object.

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Dr Lipsey. That obfusticating factors make this entire

syndrome appear as sheer insanity.

It is maddening beyond belief to not only have to deal with this,

but to just " tell it like it is " and have people respond as if they

had been bludgeoned with some blunt object.

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[Guest guest]

Measuring " mold " to find the

singular cause is like measuring " animals " when you are searching for

the one pit bull, for example, that attacked someone. Without

specificity you may find an extremely high concentration of fish

instead of the one pit bull, but think you have the cause because of

the high numbers in the " animal " sample.

I see your point because I've been telling people that I'm reactive

to a class of toxins that can be produced by different species of

molds. And I do believe that a concentration of these toxins that

can be detrimental to health can easily be achieved by accumulations

of lesser molds.

But I have to disagree about the importance of specificity in the

case of Stachy.

I could perceive that one mold above all had the toxic properties of

maintaining an inflammatory response after unbelievably slight

exposures, and I determined which one it was by hiring somebody to

identify various molds while I assessed my response.

I pointed directly at Stachy and it wasn't until after the mold was

identified that I first heard the name.

And since this was before " mold hysteria " hit the media it was kind

of difficult for me to have been influenced by hype.

Just as I showed Dr. Marinkovich when I identified a " lesser " mold

plume (Penicillium) in his reception room, I am sensitive to other

molds, but as far as I can tell, it is Stachy alone that has the

toxic potential to be a driving force in my inflammatory response at

levels so low that controlling cross contamination is a critical

factor in avoiding symptoms.

And my experience of accompanying other mold responders into

Stachyzones is that we all agree that this class of toxin is

something extra special.

Just as I've posted before, when someone is living at my level of

reactivity in which simply walking through a Stachy spore plume can

ruin my day (without decontamination), trying to legislate mold

levels that apply to my situation is probably impossible. I'm all

for trying to make buildings safer but I have to admit that it is

ridiculous to remediate a building to my standards if other people

aren't getting sick there.

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[Guest guest]

Measuring " mold " to find the

singular cause is like measuring " animals " when you are searching for

the one pit bull, for example, that attacked someone. Without

specificity you may find an extremely high concentration of fish

instead of the one pit bull, but think you have the cause because of

the high numbers in the " animal " sample.

I see your point because I've been telling people that I'm reactive

to a class of toxins that can be produced by different species of

molds. And I do believe that a concentration of these toxins that

can be detrimental to health can easily be achieved by accumulations

of lesser molds.

But I have to disagree about the importance of specificity in the

case of Stachy.

I could perceive that one mold above all had the toxic properties of

maintaining an inflammatory response after unbelievably slight

exposures, and I determined which one it was by hiring somebody to

identify various molds while I assessed my response.

I pointed directly at Stachy and it wasn't until after the mold was

identified that I first heard the name.

And since this was before " mold hysteria " hit the media it was kind

of difficult for me to have been influenced by hype.

Just as I showed Dr. Marinkovich when I identified a " lesser " mold

plume (Penicillium) in his reception room, I am sensitive to other

molds, but as far as I can tell, it is Stachy alone that has the

toxic potential to be a driving force in my inflammatory response at

levels so low that controlling cross contamination is a critical

factor in avoiding symptoms.

And my experience of accompanying other mold responders into

Stachyzones is that we all agree that this class of toxin is

something extra special.

Just as I've posted before, when someone is living at my level of

reactivity in which simply walking through a Stachy spore plume can

ruin my day (without decontamination), trying to legislate mold

levels that apply to my situation is probably impossible. I'm all

for trying to make buildings safer but I have to admit that it is

ridiculous to remediate a building to my standards if other people

aren't getting sick there.

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[Guest guest]

Don, which dehydrator did you get? I have a L'Equip that runs 3 or 4 days a

week. bought a couple of extra trays too.

Joy Kebab

>

> The plastic trays in my almost 20 year old dehydrator cracked and

> warped badly after making several batches of beef jerky on them. The

> trays in the new dehydrator are made differently so hopefully I won't

> have the same problem, at least for many years. I think the plastic

> just got old and couldn't handle the highest heat setting and fat

> from the beef anymore.

>

> Don

>

[Guest guest]

As I said in another message I bought a NESCO American Harvest

Snackmaster Express Food Dehydrator and Jerky Maker Model MD-60. My

old dehydrator was also made by American Harvest I think it was Model

MD-50, which they have made for a long time. The trays are the same

and interchangeable for the MD-50 and the MD-60.

I mainly use mine for beef jerky, but occasionally do other things

for trips.

Don

> Don, which dehydrator did you get? I have a L'Equip that runs 3 or

4 days a

> week. bought a couple of extra trays too.

>

> Joy Kebab

> >

> > The plastic trays in my almost 20 year old dehydrator cracked and

> > warped badly after making several batches of beef jerky on them.

The

> > trays in the new dehydrator are made differently so hopefully I

won't

> > have the same problem, at least for many years. I think the

plastic

> > just got old and couldn't handle the highest heat setting and fat

> > from the beef anymore.