Guest guest Posted March 24, 1999 Report Share Posted March 24, 1999 Two years ago, I did the Master Cleanse (Lemonade diet). On the third day, I decided to try the internal salt water bath as recommended. Unfortunately (or fortuitously) I took my quart jar of salt water up to my computer desk at 6:00 AM and logged on the Internet. I sipped on the water so it took me till 10:30 AM to empty the jar. Not what is recommended! As you would expect it did not flush through. That evening I started to feel slightly bloated but no pain. I was awaken out of a deep sleep twice during the night! The first time, it felt I had a car race going on in my intestines, the second time it felt like heavy artillery or a baby kicking in the 8th or 9th month of pregnancy. I thought to myself, " It seems I have disturbed some freeloaders with the salt water " A friend of mine who specialized in parasitology had previously informed me that the head of tapeworms are difficult to detach, but salty foods will make them let go so they can be passed out. When I got up in the morning, I took another quart of salt water, but I stayed in my kitchen to drink it within 15 minutes. I then did the twist on my rebounder for 5 minutes to help shake it down as rapidly as possible. An hour later I had to take a trip to the bathroom. To my surprise, what was washed out was a 1 inch thick layer of bright yellow of whipped butter consistency! I spoke to a master herbalist from Hungary and he thought that the thrashing about of the worms before they were dissolved (like slugs when you put salt on them) they scrubbed all the mucous build up in the small intestine which was the cause of the bright yellow discharge. When I did the Awareness parasite cleanse (The most effective product in the world against ALL kinds of parasites according to my parasitologist friend) 4 months later, there was no sign of any intestinal parasites whatsoever! Does Saul Pressman sell Homozon? By the way, he lives only a half hour drive from me and I have talked with him at health shows in the past few years. Toni Best online business in health with e-commerce, online conference calls and much more http://www.mannatech-associate.com/britishcolumbia/vancouver /subscribe.cgi/Glyconutritionals /subscribe.cgi/12steps2health Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Hmm...I haven't ever heard of that but I do remember having an endoscopy (camera down throat)...it's not an all too pleasing feeling. I would rather just suck it up and drink the salt water! I absolutely hate the taste (epsom salts!), but just try to think of the crap you will get out! I suck on a lemon in between gulps, it helps The gagging feeling may feel worse than the taste and it could be dangerous...? Best of luck to you! shefy ai3131 <ai3131@...> wrote: I was once doing the " Lemonade Diet " and the first step of that was to drink senna tea before going to bed, followed by 2 quarts of salt water in the morning, on an empty stomach; this will induce strong peristalsis and help evacuate mucosal plaques from the intestines. I did so, but I could not tolerate the taste of salt on my tongue. Thus, I had to discontinue. Now that I have bought Stanley Burrough's " The Master Cleanse " , I plan to recommence. I once saw that an easy way to introduce the salt water into the digestive tract involves inserting a soft plastic hose, through the mouth, into the esophagus, with a funnel attached to the top end. Salt water is poured into the funnel. This way, the salt water can be introduced without having to taste it. Anyone here have experience with this method? - Arian I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 I found that if you make it as cold as possible it is definetly more palatable. On 4/24/06, shefy gupta <shefy7@...> wrote: > > Hmm...I haven't ever heard of that but I do remember having an endoscopy > (camera down throat)...it's not an all too pleasing feeling. I would rather > just suck it up and drink the salt water! I absolutely hate the taste (epsom > salts!), but just try to think of the crap you will get out! I suck on a > lemon in between gulps, it helps The gagging feeling may feel worse than > the taste and it could be dangerous...? > > Best of luck to you! > shefy > > ai3131 <ai3131@...> wrote: > I was once doing the " Lemonade Diet " and the first step of that was to > drink senna tea before going to bed, followed by 2 quarts of salt water > in the morning, on an empty stomach; this will induce strong > peristalsis and help evacuate mucosal plaques from the intestines. I > did so, but I could not tolerate the taste of salt on my tongue. Thus, > I had to discontinue. > > Now that I have bought Stanley Burrough's " The Master Cleanse " , I plan > to recommence. I once saw that an easy way to introduce the salt water > into the digestive tract involves inserting a soft plastic hose, > through the mouth, into the esophagus, with a funnel attached to the > top end. Salt water is poured into the funnel. This way, the salt water > can be introduced without having to taste it. > > Anyone here have experience with this method? > > - Arian I. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 > > I found that if you make it as cold as possible it is definetly more > palatable. > OK, I'll try that. - Arian I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 putting the salt in capsules sounds better to me. shefy gupta <shefy7@...> wrote: Hmm...I haven't ever heard of that but I do remember having an endoscopy (camera down throat)...it's not an all too pleasing feeling. I would rather just suck it up and drink the salt water! I absolutely hate the taste (epsom salts!), but just try to think of the crap you will get out! I suck on a lemon in between gulps, it helps The gagging feeling may feel worse than the taste and it could be dangerous...? Best of luck to you! shefy ai3131 wrote: I was once doing the " Lemonade Diet " and the first step of that was to drink senna tea before going to bed, followed by 2 quarts of salt water in the morning, on an empty stomach; this will induce strong peristalsis and help evacuate mucosal plaques from the intestines. I did so, but I could not tolerate the taste of salt on my tongue. Thus, I had to discontinue. Now that I have bought Stanley Burrough's " The Master Cleanse " , I plan to recommence. I once saw that an easy way to introduce the salt water into the digestive tract involves inserting a soft plastic hose, through the mouth, into the esophagus, with a funnel attached to the top end. Salt water is poured into the funnel. This way, the salt water can be introduced without having to taste it. Anyone here have experience with this method? - Arian I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Arian, I have never tried the method you mentioned because I have such a strong gag reflex. I have done the salt water cleanse and I found it to have a floral taste rather than salty. I had used organic sea salt from the French Atlantic. I don't know if that makes a difference or not. I also drank the water through a straw. One word of caution. About 30 minutes after ingesting the salt water, stay in the bathroom. You only get about a millisecond of warning before it expells everything. It is a very strong and sudden flush, but it works great! Diane ai3131 wrote: >I was once doing the " Lemonade Diet " and the first step of that was to >drink senna tea before going to bed, followed by 2 quarts of salt water >in the morning, on an empty stomach; this will induce strong >peristalsis and help evacuate mucosal plaques from the intestines. I >did so, but I could not tolerate the taste of salt on my tongue. Thus, >I had to discontinue. > >Now that I have bought Stanley Burrough's " The Master Cleanse " , I plan >to recommence. I once saw that an easy way to introduce the salt water >into the digestive tract involves inserting a soft plastic hose, >through the mouth, into the esophagus, with a funnel attached to the >top end. Salt water is poured into the funnel. This way, the salt water >can be introduced without having to taste it. > >Anyone here have experience with this method? > >- Arian I. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 , Putting the salt into capsules wouldn't work. The idea is that the weight of the salted water is the same as blood, so it does not pass through the digestive tract walls, but cleans thems and elimination is via the bowels. The amount of salt water one must drink is a quart for this to work. Diane wrote: >putting the salt in capsules sounds better to me. > >shefy gupta <shefy7@...> wrote: Hmm...I haven't ever heard of that but I do remember having an endoscopy (camera down throat)...it's not an all too pleasing feeling. I would rather just suck it up and drink the salt water! I absolutely hate the taste (epsom salts!), but just try to think of the crap you will get out! I suck on a lemon in between gulps, it helps The gagging feeling may feel worse than the taste and it could be dangerous...? > >Best of luck to you! >shefy > >ai3131 wrote: >I was once doing the " Lemonade Diet " and the first step of that was to >drink senna tea before going to bed, followed by 2 quarts of salt water >in the morning, on an empty stomach; this will induce strong >peristalsis and help evacuate mucosal plaques from the intestines. I >did so, but I could not tolerate the taste of salt on my tongue. Thus, >I had to discontinue. > >Now that I have bought Stanley Burrough's " The Master Cleanse " , I plan >to recommence. I once saw that an easy way to introduce the salt water >into the digestive tract involves inserting a soft plastic hose, >through the mouth, into the esophagus, with a funnel attached to the >top end. Salt water is poured into the funnel. This way, the salt water >can be introduced without having to taste it. > >Anyone here have experience with this method? > >- Arian I. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 If it doesn't taste good to you then your body is telling you it is toxic to you at that particular time. There is a good chance that salt water will always taste bad to you, which means that it is not healthy for you. Corey > > I was once doing the " Lemonade Diet " and the first step of that was to > drink senna tea before going to bed, followed by 2 quarts of salt water > in the morning, on an empty stomach; this will induce strong > peristalsis and help evacuate mucosal plaques from the intestines. I > did so, but I could not tolerate the taste of salt on my tongue. Thus, > I had to discontinue. > > Now that I have bought Stanley Burrough's " The Master Cleanse " , I plan > to recommence. I once saw that an easy way to introduce the salt water > into the digestive tract involves inserting a soft plastic hose, > through the mouth, into the esophagus, with a funnel attached to the > top end. Salt water is poured into the funnel. This way, the salt water > can be introduced without having to taste it. > > Anyone here have experience with this method? > > - Arian I. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 You know when I take epsom salts (either for a pain in the gb or a flush) it takes a little over 3 hours for me to have any bowel movements....Is this normal? Shefy Diane Mackey <dmackey00@...> wrote: Arian, I have never tried the method you mentioned because I have such a strong gag reflex. I have done the salt water cleanse and I found it to have a floral taste rather than salty. I had used organic sea salt from the French Atlantic. I don't know if that makes a difference or not. I also drank the water through a straw. One word of caution. About 30 minutes after ingesting the salt water, stay in the bathroom. You only get about a millisecond of warning before it expells everything. It is a very strong and sudden flush, but it works great! Diane ai3131 wrote: >I was once doing the " Lemonade Diet " and the first step of that was to >drink senna tea before going to bed, followed by 2 quarts of salt water >in the morning, on an empty stomach; this will induce strong >peristalsis and help evacuate mucosal plaques from the intestines. I >did so, but I could not tolerate the taste of salt on my tongue. Thus, >I had to discontinue. > >Now that I have bought Stanley Burrough's " The Master Cleanse " , I plan >to recommence. I once saw that an easy way to introduce the salt water >into the digestive tract involves inserting a soft plastic hose, >through the mouth, into the esophagus, with a funnel attached to the >top end. Salt water is poured into the funnel. This way, the salt water >can be introduced without having to taste it. > >Anyone here have experience with this method? > >- Arian I. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Could one use OTC products instead of epsom salts? I've avoided another liver cleanse for years simply because I can't stomach the epsom salts. I know I need to do it again. I am hoping it might lower my cholesterol level, but the epsom salts..... gag. gina _____ From: Dr [mailto:Dr ] On Behalf Of shefy gupta Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:36 AM Dr Subject: Re: Internal salt water bath You know when I take epsom salts (either for a pain in the gb or a flush) it takes a little over 3 hours for me to have any bowel movements....Is this normal? Shefy Diane Mackey <dmackey00@...> wrote: Arian, I have never tried the method you mentioned because I have such a strong gag reflex. I have done the salt water cleanse and I found it to have a floral taste rather than salty. I had used organic sea salt from the French Atlantic. I don't know if that makes a difference or not. I also drank the water through a straw. One word of caution. About 30 minutes after ingesting the salt water, stay in the bathroom. You only get about a millisecond of warning before it expells everything. It is a very strong and sudden flush, but it works great! Diane ai3131 wrote: >I was once doing the " Lemonade Diet " and the first step of that was to >drink senna tea before going to bed, followed by 2 quarts of salt water >in the morning, on an empty stomach; this will induce strong >peristalsis and help evacuate mucosal plaques from the intestines. I >did so, but I could not tolerate the taste of salt on my tongue. Thus, >I had to discontinue. > >Now that I have bought Stanley Burrough's " The Master Cleanse " , I plan >to recommence. I once saw that an easy way to introduce the salt water >into the digestive tract involves inserting a soft plastic hose, >through the mouth, into the esophagus, with a funnel attached to the >top end. Salt water is poured into the funnel. This way, the salt water >can be introduced without having to taste it. > >Anyone here have experience with this method? > >- Arian I. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 , It is always recommended that your do a bowel cleanse first to insure that gall stones have a clear path for elimination and nothing in the way to block them.. Diane ai3131 wrote: > > > >>, >> >>It is my understanding that a liver cleanse can temporarily raise >>cholesterol levels as it cleans out the stones and sludge, but in >> >> >a > > >>short time you should see a reduction. Among many >> >> >holistic/alternative > > >>doctors, the supplement Policosano or Octacosonal, works well to >> >> >reduce > > >>cholesterol and lower blood pressure safely. You can do a google >> >> >search > > >>for more info.> >> >> > >I have a stable cholesterol index, so an increase of the same by >about 100 points should not affect me too much. > >Which should I do first, the bowel cleanse or the liver cleanse? I >believe that cleaning out the liver first will free up the bile >ducts, which in turn will free up the mucosal plaque in the >intestines and thus make the bowel cleanse easier. What do you think? > >I like to eat beef with veggies, Chinese style. I guess doing a >cleansing fast for 5 days out of each month should cover me just >fine. > > > >>The liver cleanse will clear up a lot of issues, not just >> >> >cardiovascular > > >>problems. A toxic liver is the basis for many maladies and it is >> >> >always > > >>a complex situation. Don't bypass a liver cleanse for a >> >> >supplement. > > >>The results won't be the same. >> >>Diane> >> >> > >Now that I am beginning to understand the importance of the liver, I >am seriously considering a liver cleanse. Perhaps changing the >chemical environment within the liver will slow down the replication >of Hepatitis C viral particles. In Burroughs' book " The Master >Cleanse " , it is said viruses and bacteria are not harmful, so long >as they do not reproduce uncontrollably. Using this as the base of >my argument, I believe that changing the chemical environment in my >liver may result in the body eliminating the HCV particles, since >then the body will be able to handle the viral load. > >- Arian I. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Hi Diane: I was reading your post and would like to know what are some of the other maladies of a congested liver. I have done 6 liver cleanses and feel better but my allergies are still there? and would know more. Thanks, ai3131 <ai3131@...> wrote: > > , > > It is my understanding that a liver cleanse can temporarily raise > cholesterol levels as it cleans out the stones and sludge, but in a > short time you should see a reduction. Among many holistic/alternative > doctors, the supplement Policosano or Octacosonal, works well to reduce > cholesterol and lower blood pressure safely. You can do a google search > for more info.> I have a stable cholesterol index, so an increase of the same by about 100 points should not affect me too much. Which should I do first, the bowel cleanse or the liver cleanse? I believe that cleaning out the liver first will free up the bile ducts, which in turn will free up the mucosal plaque in the intestines and thus make the bowel cleanse easier. What do you think? I like to eat beef with veggies, Chinese style. I guess doing a cleansing fast for 5 days out of each month should cover me just fine. > The liver cleanse will clear up a lot of issues, not just cardiovascular > problems. A toxic liver is the basis for many maladies and it is always > a complex situation. Don't bypass a liver cleanse for a supplement. > The results won't be the same. > > Diane> Now that I am beginning to understand the importance of the liver, I am seriously considering a liver cleanse. Perhaps changing the chemical environment within the liver will slow down the replication of Hepatitis C viral particles. In Burroughs' book " The Master Cleanse " , it is said viruses and bacteria are not harmful, so long as they do not reproduce uncontrollably. Using this as the base of my argument, I believe that changing the chemical environment in my liver may result in the body eliminating the HCV particles, since then the body will be able to handle the viral load. - Arian I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Diane: Thanks so much for the info. Yes,. I have done the parasite cleanse. I have not really zapped for more than 3 weeks. I hear people talk about the zapper, but I don't hear what kind of results they have. Especially for seizures. I sure would like to hear some success stories. I have not done the blood cleanse and I don't know anything about celiac desease. But I have done the parasite, kidney and liver cleanse according to Dr. . I have done 7 liver cleanses and expelled thousands of stones. And still coming! I was planning on really applying myself to the colon cleanse and continue with the liver until it is cleeeeeean! Can you recomend a blood cleanse? I have a friend who thinks she has celiac can someone heal from this? Thanks again Diane Mackey <dmackey00@...> wrote: , Signs of a congested liver besides the obvious like cirrhosis and hepatitis, can be acne, indigestion, aching muscles, aching joints, allergies, bad breath, liver spots, bags under the eyes, dry skin, oily skin, dry eyes, shoulder blade pain, eczema, body odor, and many more that I can't think of right now. Many of these symptoms can also be heavy metal poisoning from lead, mercury and aluminum. If your liver is congested and cannot clean toxins, the toxins will settle into any part of the body and cause any number of symptoms, and usually several symptoms. You also need to consider heavy metal cleansing and getting rid of candida. Have you also done parasite cleansing? If your allergies are still there, you need to keep cleansing, and include blood, heavy metal, and parasite cleansing as well. Sometimes people have celiac disease and are not aware of it, so do a google search for that to see if the symptoms of celiac describe any other issues you may have. I had no idea I was allergic to wheat and any form of it until I did food elimination and rotation. There is no easy answer sometimes. If you can't afford diagnostic procedures, then it is a matter of doing the cleanses, food elimination, and of course, avoiding all toxins until you resolve the problem causing the symptoms. Diane wrote: >Hi Diane: > I was reading your post and would like to know what are some of the other maladies of a congested liver. I have done 6 liver cleanses and feel better but my allergies are still there? and would know more. > Thanks, > > >ai3131 <ai3131@...> wrote: > > > >>, >> >>It is my understanding that a liver cleanse can temporarily raise >>cholesterol levels as it cleans out the stones and sludge, but in >> >> >a > > >>short time you should see a reduction. Among many >> >> >holistic/alternative > > >>doctors, the supplement Policosano or Octacosonal, works well to >> >> >reduce > > >>cholesterol and lower blood pressure safely. You can do a google >> >> >search > > >>for more info.> >> >> > >I have a stable cholesterol index, so an increase of the same by >about 100 points should not affect me too much. > >Which should I do first, the bowel cleanse or the liver cleanse? I >believe that cleaning out the liver first will free up the bile >ducts, which in turn will free up the mucosal plaque in the >intestines and thus make the bowel cleanse easier. What do you think? > >I like to eat beef with veggies, Chinese style. I guess doing a >cleansing fast for 5 days out of each month should cover me just >fine. > > > >>The liver cleanse will clear up a lot of issues, not just >> >> >cardiovascular > > >>problems. A toxic liver is the basis for many maladies and it is >> >> >always > > >>a complex situation. Don't bypass a liver cleanse for a >> >> >supplement. > > >>The results won't be the same. >> >>Diane> >> >> > >Now that I am beginning to understand the importance of the liver, I >am seriously considering a liver cleanse. Perhaps changing the >chemical environment within the liver will slow down the replication >of Hepatitis C viral particles. In Burroughs' book " The Master >Cleanse " , it is said viruses and bacteria are not harmful, so long >as they do not reproduce uncontrollably. Using this as the base of >my argument, I believe that changing the chemical environment in my >liver may result in the body eliminating the HCV particles, since >then the body will be able to handle the viral load. > >- Arian I. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Hi Diane, I found a link to the bowel cleanse. where do you purchase Lugol's? I saw on a website that it is only available by prescription. _____ From: Dr [mailto:Dr ] On Behalf Of Diane Mackey Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 4:40 PM Dr Subject: Re: Re: Internal salt water bath , It is always recommended that your do a bowel cleanse first to insure that gall stones have a clear path for elimination and nothing in the way to block them.. Diane ai3131 wrote: > > > >>, >> >>It is my understanding that a liver cleanse can temporarily raise >>cholesterol levels as it cleans out the stones and sludge, but in >> >> >a > > >>short time you should see a reduction. Among many >> >> >holistic/alternative > > >>doctors, the supplement Policosano or Octacosonal, works well to >> >> >reduce > > >>cholesterol and lower blood pressure safely. You can do a google >> >> >search > > >>for more info.> >> >> > >I have a stable cholesterol index, so an increase of the same by >about 100 points should not affect me too much. > >Which should I do first, the bowel cleanse or the liver cleanse? I >believe that cleaning out the liver first will free up the bile >ducts, which in turn will free up the mucosal plaque in the >intestines and thus make the bowel cleanse easier. What do you think? > >I like to eat beef with veggies, Chinese style. I guess doing a >cleansing fast for 5 days out of each month should cover me just >fine. > > > >>The liver cleanse will clear up a lot of issues, not just >> >> >cardiovascular > > >>problems. A toxic liver is the basis for many maladies and it is >> >> >always > > >>a complex situation. Don't bypass a liver cleanse for a >> >> >supplement. > > >>The results won't be the same. >> >>Diane> >> >> > >Now that I am beginning to understand the importance of the liver, I >am seriously considering a liver cleanse. Perhaps changing the >chemical environment within the liver will slow down the replication >of Hepatitis C viral particles. In Burroughs' book " The Master >Cleanse " , it is said viruses and bacteria are not harmful, so long >as they do not reproduce uncontrollably. Using this as the base of >my argument, I believe that changing the chemical environment in my >liver may result in the body eliminating the HCV particles, since >then the body will be able to handle the viral load. > >- Arian I. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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