Guest guest Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 Again, Carl -- thank you for your continuing research. I think. Man! Why do we keep having to take responsibility for information that we are not allowed to have? I'm glad I now live in a tent for the most part. -- In , " Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@h...> wrote: > > Here is a good news, bad news, very bad news item. And another > example why those of us who have been victimzed often feel such > Anger! > > WARNING: You may therefore not want to read the rest of this post -- > unless you are considering buying HUD property. > > - HUD acknowledges the potential health effects of mold. Good. > > - HUD encourages buyers (in big bold type) to INSPECT. Good. > > - However, " Purchasers are hereby notified and agree that they are > solely responsible for any required remediation and/or resulting > damages, including, but not limited to, any effects on health, due to > radon or mold in, on or around the property. " Very Bad. > > See the May 28, 2004 HUDCLIPS notice at: > http://www.hudclips.org/cgi/index_cliphome.cgi > and click on 2004 Housing Notices, then click Radon Gas and Mold > Notice and Release Agreement. Read carefully, but here are some > excerpts: > > " ...important information to potential purchasers of HUD-acquired > single family properties that radon gas and some molds have the > potential to cause serious health problems. ... Mold is visibly > evident, but can also be found in areas that are not readily visible; > for example, mold can be found behind barriers such as shower tile > where the tile would have to be removed to expose the extent of the > mold. ... > " The Department is requiring that the attached agreement be included > with all sales contracts to ensure that all purchasers are aware that > radon gas and mold may cause health problems. " > > There is also a link to the required form. But please note that > although this notification acknowledges the potential for health > problems, the form is a full release of liability of all parties into > the future. > > So if you purchase a HUD property, make sure you have appropriate > inspections and assessments by ethical, qualified professionals. Not > for the purpose of identifying what HUD needs to correct, but solely > to determine whether or not to buy the house. In other words, if you > buy you are buying the house " as is. " Bad, because nothing has > changed despite the appearance to the contrary. > > What is so aggravating -- it took someone else pointing this out > before I " got it " -- is that the initial impression is that HUD is > protecting the health of buyers. In actuality and despite initial > impressions, it is protecting everyone but the buyer (potential > victim) by eliminating all recourse forever. Very, very bad. > > --------------------- > Carl E.Grimes > Healthy Habitats LLC > grimes@h... > 303-671-9653 > 303-751-0416 fax > ================== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 Again, Carl -- thank you for your continuing research. I think. Man! Why do we keep having to take responsibility for information that we are not allowed to have? I'm glad I now live in a tent for the most part. -- In , " Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@h...> wrote: > > Here is a good news, bad news, very bad news item. And another > example why those of us who have been victimzed often feel such > Anger! > > WARNING: You may therefore not want to read the rest of this post -- > unless you are considering buying HUD property. > > - HUD acknowledges the potential health effects of mold. Good. > > - HUD encourages buyers (in big bold type) to INSPECT. Good. > > - However, " Purchasers are hereby notified and agree that they are > solely responsible for any required remediation and/or resulting > damages, including, but not limited to, any effects on health, due to > radon or mold in, on or around the property. " Very Bad. > > See the May 28, 2004 HUDCLIPS notice at: > http://www.hudclips.org/cgi/index_cliphome.cgi > and click on 2004 Housing Notices, then click Radon Gas and Mold > Notice and Release Agreement. Read carefully, but here are some > excerpts: > > " ...important information to potential purchasers of HUD-acquired > single family properties that radon gas and some molds have the > potential to cause serious health problems. ... Mold is visibly > evident, but can also be found in areas that are not readily visible; > for example, mold can be found behind barriers such as shower tile > where the tile would have to be removed to expose the extent of the > mold. ... > " The Department is requiring that the attached agreement be included > with all sales contracts to ensure that all purchasers are aware that > radon gas and mold may cause health problems. " > > There is also a link to the required form. But please note that > although this notification acknowledges the potential for health > problems, the form is a full release of liability of all parties into > the future. > > So if you purchase a HUD property, make sure you have appropriate > inspections and assessments by ethical, qualified professionals. Not > for the purpose of identifying what HUD needs to correct, but solely > to determine whether or not to buy the house. In other words, if you > buy you are buying the house " as is. " Bad, because nothing has > changed despite the appearance to the contrary. > > What is so aggravating -- it took someone else pointing this out > before I " got it " -- is that the initial impression is that HUD is > protecting the health of buyers. In actuality and despite initial > impressions, it is protecting everyone but the buyer (potential > victim) by eliminating all recourse forever. Very, very bad. > > --------------------- > Carl E.Grimes > Healthy Habitats LLC > grimes@h... > 303-671-9653 > 303-751-0416 fax > ================== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 Carl, Thanks for the research and news. This seems very significant in that at least they are acknowledging negative health effects from mold, at least that will help at little, but you're right, where does this leave victims? Everyone is running from liability as usual, and the majority of buyers are not that educated on the subject of mold. I re-mediated and sold my condo, and my next place is going to be a RENTAL, so I can move out if I have to. Thx. Judi On Jun 9, 2004, at 10:22 PM, Carl E. Grimes wrote: > > Here is a good news, bad news, very bad news item. And another > example why those of us who have been victimzed often feel such > Anger! > > WARNING: You may therefore not want to read the rest of this post -- > unless you are considering buying HUD property. > > - HUD acknowledges the potential health effects of mold. Good. > > - HUD encourages buyers (in big bold type) to INSPECT. Good. > > - However, " Purchasers are hereby notified and agree that they are > solely responsible for any required remediation and/or resulting > damages, including, but not limited to, any effects on health, due to > radon or mold in, on or around the property. " Very Bad. > > See the May 28, 2004 HUDCLIPS notice at: > http://www.hudclips.org/cgi/index_cliphome.cgi > and click on 2004 Housing Notices, then click Radon Gas and Mold > Notice and Release Agreement. Read carefully, but here are some > excerpts: > > " ...important information to potential purchasers of HUD-acquired > single family properties that radon gas and some molds have the > potential to cause serious health problems. ... Mold is visibly > evident, but can also be found in areas that are not readily visible; > for example, mold can be found behind barriers such as shower tile > where the tile would have to be removed to expose the extent of the > mold. ... > " The Department is requiring that the attached agreement be > included > with all sales contracts to ensure that all purchasers are aware that > radon gas and mold may cause health problems. " > > There is also a link to the required form. But please note that > although this notification acknowledges the potential for health > problems, the form is a full release of liability of all parties into > the future. > > So if you purchase a HUD property, make sure you have appropriate > inspections and assessments by ethical, qualified professionals. Not > for the purpose of identifying what HUD needs to correct, but solely > to determine whether or not to buy the house. In other words, if you > buy you are buying the house " as is. " Bad, because nothing has > changed despite the appearance to the contrary. > > What is so aggravating -- it took someone else pointing this out > before I " got it " -- is that the initial impression is that HUD is > protecting the health of buyers. In actuality and despite initial > impressions, it is protecting everyone but the buyer (potential > victim) by eliminating all recourse forever. Very, very bad. > > --------------------- > Carl E.Grimes > Healthy Habitats LLC > grimes@... > 303-671-9653 > 303-751-0416 fax > ================== > > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not > always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are > making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding > of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, > scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this > constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided > for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title > 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed > without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in > receiving the included information for research and educational > purposes. For more information go to: > http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use > copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go > beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright > owner. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 Carl, Thanks for the research and news. This seems very significant in that at least they are acknowledging negative health effects from mold, at least that will help at little, but you're right, where does this leave victims? Everyone is running from liability as usual, and the majority of buyers are not that educated on the subject of mold. I re-mediated and sold my condo, and my next place is going to be a RENTAL, so I can move out if I have to. Thx. Judi On Jun 9, 2004, at 10:22 PM, Carl E. Grimes wrote: > > Here is a good news, bad news, very bad news item. And another > example why those of us who have been victimzed often feel such > Anger! > > WARNING: You may therefore not want to read the rest of this post -- > unless you are considering buying HUD property. > > - HUD acknowledges the potential health effects of mold. Good. > > - HUD encourages buyers (in big bold type) to INSPECT. Good. > > - However, " Purchasers are hereby notified and agree that they are > solely responsible for any required remediation and/or resulting > damages, including, but not limited to, any effects on health, due to > radon or mold in, on or around the property. " Very Bad. > > See the May 28, 2004 HUDCLIPS notice at: > http://www.hudclips.org/cgi/index_cliphome.cgi > and click on 2004 Housing Notices, then click Radon Gas and Mold > Notice and Release Agreement. Read carefully, but here are some > excerpts: > > " ...important information to potential purchasers of HUD-acquired > single family properties that radon gas and some molds have the > potential to cause serious health problems. ... Mold is visibly > evident, but can also be found in areas that are not readily visible; > for example, mold can be found behind barriers such as shower tile > where the tile would have to be removed to expose the extent of the > mold. ... > " The Department is requiring that the attached agreement be > included > with all sales contracts to ensure that all purchasers are aware that > radon gas and mold may cause health problems. " > > There is also a link to the required form. But please note that > although this notification acknowledges the potential for health > problems, the form is a full release of liability of all parties into > the future. > > So if you purchase a HUD property, make sure you have appropriate > inspections and assessments by ethical, qualified professionals. Not > for the purpose of identifying what HUD needs to correct, but solely > to determine whether or not to buy the house. In other words, if you > buy you are buying the house " as is. " Bad, because nothing has > changed despite the appearance to the contrary. > > What is so aggravating -- it took someone else pointing this out > before I " got it " -- is that the initial impression is that HUD is > protecting the health of buyers. In actuality and despite initial > impressions, it is protecting everyone but the buyer (potential > victim) by eliminating all recourse forever. Very, very bad. > > --------------------- > Carl E.Grimes > Healthy Habitats LLC > grimes@... > 303-671-9653 > 303-751-0416 fax > ================== > > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not > always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are > making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding > of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, > scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this > constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided > for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title > 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed > without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in > receiving the included information for research and educational > purposes. For more information go to: > http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use > copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go > beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright > owner. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 OK -- I've been able to think about this overnight. I'm not trying to be inflammatory and hysterical, but this is now getting to be at least amusing, so maybe I'll try for the other hysterical in the future. Al en says that the activist left has to be funnier than the current administration to win the swing... So my continuing concern here is what I percieve as inconsistant messaging coming from the government on the issue. Last week, we have a largely undecipherable release from the IoM on toxigenic effects of mold -- it took our resident expert witness here to be able to " tease this apart " and determine that the study was largely noncommital on the subject of nonallergenic effects. Fair enough. But the PR was structured so badly that the press ran with the conclusion that there were no serious health implications of mold. This is because they worked off the PR, and had neither the time or the experience to interpret the entire document correctly. Now we have the office of HUD releasing this document and associated public policy, based on the acknowledgment the certain molds CAN cause serious health effects, I'm assuming this means something other than allergic rhinitis. I think that this pretty obviously represents a gap in information between these two government offices, at the very least. I think someone at HUD is going to catch hell for this. Can consumers get a concise statement around what mold can and cannot do? How expert on the subject of pathological mycology is the general HUD buyer expected to be? We look to the government to protect our health and well-being, I think anyone here would disagree that this supercedes the need to protect insurance concerns. Sorry, I didn't say a single funny thing there. Maybe with the next press release! > > > > Here is a good news, bad news, very bad news item. And another > > example why those of us who have been victimzed often feel such > > Anger! > > > > WARNING: You may therefore not want to read the rest of this post -- > > unless you are considering buying HUD property. > > > > - HUD acknowledges the potential health effects of mold. Good. > > > > - HUD encourages buyers (in big bold type) to INSPECT. Good. > > > > - However, " Purchasers are hereby notified and agree that they are > > solely responsible for any required remediation and/or resulting > > damages, including, but not limited to, any effects on health, due to > > radon or mold in, on or around the property. " Very Bad. > > > > See the May 28, 2004 HUDCLIPS notice at: > > http://www.hudclips.org/cgi/index_cliphome.cgi > > and click on 2004 Housing Notices, then click Radon Gas and Mold > > Notice and Release Agreement. Read carefully, but here are some > > excerpts: > > > > " ...important information to potential purchasers of HUD-acquired > > single family properties that radon gas and some molds have the > > potential to cause serious health problems. ... Mold is visibly > > evident, but can also be found in areas that are not readily visible; > > for example, mold can be found behind barriers such as shower tile > > where the tile would have to be removed to expose the extent of the > > mold. ... > > " The Department is requiring that the attached agreement be included > > with all sales contracts to ensure that all purchasers are aware that > > radon gas and mold may cause health problems. " > > > > There is also a link to the required form. But please note that > > although this notification acknowledges the potential for health > > problems, the form is a full release of liability of all parties into > > the future. > > > > So if you purchase a HUD property, make sure you have appropriate > > inspections and assessments by ethical, qualified professionals. Not > > for the purpose of identifying what HUD needs to correct, but solely > > to determine whether or not to buy the house. In other words, if you > > buy you are buying the house " as is. " Bad, because nothing has > > changed despite the appearance to the contrary. > > > > What is so aggravating -- it took someone else pointing this out > > before I " got it " -- is that the initial impression is that HUD is > > protecting the health of buyers. In actuality and despite initial > > impressions, it is protecting everyone but the buyer (potential > > victim) by eliminating all recourse forever. Very, very bad. > > > > --------------------- > > Carl E.Grimes > > Healthy Habitats LLC > > grimes@h... > > 303-671-9653 > > 303-751-0416 fax > > ================== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 OK -- I've been able to think about this overnight. I'm not trying to be inflammatory and hysterical, but this is now getting to be at least amusing, so maybe I'll try for the other hysterical in the future. Al en says that the activist left has to be funnier than the current administration to win the swing... So my continuing concern here is what I percieve as inconsistant messaging coming from the government on the issue. Last week, we have a largely undecipherable release from the IoM on toxigenic effects of mold -- it took our resident expert witness here to be able to " tease this apart " and determine that the study was largely noncommital on the subject of nonallergenic effects. Fair enough. But the PR was structured so badly that the press ran with the conclusion that there were no serious health implications of mold. This is because they worked off the PR, and had neither the time or the experience to interpret the entire document correctly. Now we have the office of HUD releasing this document and associated public policy, based on the acknowledgment the certain molds CAN cause serious health effects, I'm assuming this means something other than allergic rhinitis. I think that this pretty obviously represents a gap in information between these two government offices, at the very least. I think someone at HUD is going to catch hell for this. Can consumers get a concise statement around what mold can and cannot do? How expert on the subject of pathological mycology is the general HUD buyer expected to be? We look to the government to protect our health and well-being, I think anyone here would disagree that this supercedes the need to protect insurance concerns. Sorry, I didn't say a single funny thing there. Maybe with the next press release! > > > > Here is a good news, bad news, very bad news item. And another > > example why those of us who have been victimzed often feel such > > Anger! > > > > WARNING: You may therefore not want to read the rest of this post -- > > unless you are considering buying HUD property. > > > > - HUD acknowledges the potential health effects of mold. Good. > > > > - HUD encourages buyers (in big bold type) to INSPECT. Good. > > > > - However, " Purchasers are hereby notified and agree that they are > > solely responsible for any required remediation and/or resulting > > damages, including, but not limited to, any effects on health, due to > > radon or mold in, on or around the property. " Very Bad. > > > > See the May 28, 2004 HUDCLIPS notice at: > > http://www.hudclips.org/cgi/index_cliphome.cgi > > and click on 2004 Housing Notices, then click Radon Gas and Mold > > Notice and Release Agreement. Read carefully, but here are some > > excerpts: > > > > " ...important information to potential purchasers of HUD-acquired > > single family properties that radon gas and some molds have the > > potential to cause serious health problems. ... Mold is visibly > > evident, but can also be found in areas that are not readily visible; > > for example, mold can be found behind barriers such as shower tile > > where the tile would have to be removed to expose the extent of the > > mold. ... > > " The Department is requiring that the attached agreement be included > > with all sales contracts to ensure that all purchasers are aware that > > radon gas and mold may cause health problems. " > > > > There is also a link to the required form. But please note that > > although this notification acknowledges the potential for health > > problems, the form is a full release of liability of all parties into > > the future. > > > > So if you purchase a HUD property, make sure you have appropriate > > inspections and assessments by ethical, qualified professionals. Not > > for the purpose of identifying what HUD needs to correct, but solely > > to determine whether or not to buy the house. In other words, if you > > buy you are buying the house " as is. " Bad, because nothing has > > changed despite the appearance to the contrary. > > > > What is so aggravating -- it took someone else pointing this out > > before I " got it " -- is that the initial impression is that HUD is > > protecting the health of buyers. In actuality and despite initial > > impressions, it is protecting everyone but the buyer (potential > > victim) by eliminating all recourse forever. Very, very bad. > > > > --------------------- > > Carl E.Grimes > > Healthy Habitats LLC > > grimes@h... > > 303-671-9653 > > 303-751-0416 fax > > ================== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 Hi Judi -- Well, this group is one form of media, and has the advantage of being exclu= ded from any protective controls, as you inferred. There is going to be a big splash upcoming in July, however, I'll advise th= is group in the near future, your participation will be needed. I've been in a tent or hammock about 50% of the time in the last six months= , but I do get driven inside to shop, use the web, etc. I use a cell phone = and a wireless card on my laptop -- you'd be surprised where you can get br= oadcast connections. However, it seems that I can't tolerate many buildings, especially residential homes, for more than short periods. This= last week, I've been hanging with a new fishing buddy, who has a brand new house -- I seem to be doing ok, despite the fact that it's filled with = furniture from who knows what warehouses. I just have to try places, and limit what I bring in until I have a handle on things. I've cleaned everyt= hing I have left multiple times this spring, including just detailing my car= twice after I mistakenly parked it near a huge compost pile. has writ= ten extensively here about this kind of reactivity, and Carl has documented = it in his research. All I can say is it's very real. Summers's here, thank goodness, I had at least a dozen nights this year in = the teens. River's don't seem to bother me either, I'm going fishing this weekend! > > > > > > > > Here is a good news, bad news, very bad news item. And another > > > > example why those of us who have been victimzed often feel such > > > > Anger! > > > > > > > > WARNING: You may therefore not want to read the rest of this post = > > -- > > > > unless you are considering buying HUD property. > > > > > > > > - HUD acknowledges the potential health effects of mold. Good. > > > > > > > > - HUD encourages buyers (in big bold type) to INSPECT. Good. > > > > > > > > - However, " Purchasers are hereby notified and agree that they are= > > > > solely responsible for any required remediation and/or resulting > > > > damages, including, but not limited to, any effects on health, > > due to > > > > radon or mold in, on or around the property. " Very Bad. > > > > > > > > See the May 28, 2004 HUDCLIPS notice at: > > > > http://www.hudclips.org/cgi/index_cliphome.cgi > > > > and click on 2004 Housing Notices, then click Radon Gas and Mold > > > > Notice and Release Agreement. Read carefully, but here are some > > > > excerpts: > > > > > > > > " ...important information to potential purchasers of HUD-acquired > > > > single family properties that radon gas and some molds have the > > > > potential to cause serious health problems. ... Mold is visibly > > > > evident, but can also be found in areas that are not readily > > visible; > > > > for example, mold can be found behind barriers such as shower tile= > > > > where the tile would have to be removed to expose the extent of > > the > > > > mold. ... > > > > " The Department is requiring that the attached agreement be = > > included > > > > with all sales contracts to ensure that all purchasers are aware > > that > > > > radon gas and mold may cause health problems. " > > > > > > > > There is also a link to the required form. But please note that > > > > although this notification acknowledges the potential for health > > > > problems, the form is a full release of liability of all parties > > into > > > > the future. > > > > > > > > So if you purchase a HUD property, make sure you have appropriate > > > > inspections and assessments by ethical, qualified professionals. > > Not > > > > for the purpose of identifying what HUD needs to correct, but > > solely > > > > to determine whether or not to buy the house. In other words, if > > you > > > > buy you are buying the house " as is. " Bad, because nothing has > > > > changed despite the appearance to the contrary. > > > > > > > > What is so aggravating -- it took someone else pointing this out > > > > before I " got it " -- is that the initial impression is that HUD > > is > > > > protecting the health of buyers. In actuality and despite initial > > > > impressions, it is protecting everyone but the buyer (potential > > > > victim) by eliminating all recourse forever. Very, very bad. > > > > > > > > --------------------- > > > > Carl E.Grimes > > > > Healthy Habitats LLC > > > > grimes@h... > > > > 303-671-9653 > > > > 303-751-0416 fax > > > > ================== > > > > > > > > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > > > This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not > > always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are > > making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding = > > of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, > > scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this > > constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided > > for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title > > 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed > > without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in > > receiving the included information for research and educational > > purposes. For more information go to: > > http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use > > copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go > > beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright > > owner. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 Hi Judi -- Well, this group is one form of media, and has the advantage of being exclu= ded from any protective controls, as you inferred. There is going to be a big splash upcoming in July, however, I'll advise th= is group in the near future, your participation will be needed. I've been in a tent or hammock about 50% of the time in the last six months= , but I do get driven inside to shop, use the web, etc. I use a cell phone = and a wireless card on my laptop -- you'd be surprised where you can get br= oadcast connections. However, it seems that I can't tolerate many buildings, especially residential homes, for more than short periods. This= last week, I've been hanging with a new fishing buddy, who has a brand new house -- I seem to be doing ok, despite the fact that it's filled with = furniture from who knows what warehouses. I just have to try places, and limit what I bring in until I have a handle on things. I've cleaned everyt= hing I have left multiple times this spring, including just detailing my car= twice after I mistakenly parked it near a huge compost pile. has writ= ten extensively here about this kind of reactivity, and Carl has documented = it in his research. All I can say is it's very real. Summers's here, thank goodness, I had at least a dozen nights this year in = the teens. River's don't seem to bother me either, I'm going fishing this weekend! > > > > > > > > Here is a good news, bad news, very bad news item. And another > > > > example why those of us who have been victimzed often feel such > > > > Anger! > > > > > > > > WARNING: You may therefore not want to read the rest of this post = > > -- > > > > unless you are considering buying HUD property. > > > > > > > > - HUD acknowledges the potential health effects of mold. Good. > > > > > > > > - HUD encourages buyers (in big bold type) to INSPECT. Good. > > > > > > > > - However, " Purchasers are hereby notified and agree that they are= > > > > solely responsible for any required remediation and/or resulting > > > > damages, including, but not limited to, any effects on health, > > due to > > > > radon or mold in, on or around the property. " Very Bad. > > > > > > > > See the May 28, 2004 HUDCLIPS notice at: > > > > http://www.hudclips.org/cgi/index_cliphome.cgi > > > > and click on 2004 Housing Notices, then click Radon Gas and Mold > > > > Notice and Release Agreement. Read carefully, but here are some > > > > excerpts: > > > > > > > > " ...important information to potential purchasers of HUD-acquired > > > > single family properties that radon gas and some molds have the > > > > potential to cause serious health problems. ... Mold is visibly > > > > evident, but can also be found in areas that are not readily > > visible; > > > > for example, mold can be found behind barriers such as shower tile= > > > > where the tile would have to be removed to expose the extent of > > the > > > > mold. ... > > > > " The Department is requiring that the attached agreement be = > > included > > > > with all sales contracts to ensure that all purchasers are aware > > that > > > > radon gas and mold may cause health problems. " > > > > > > > > There is also a link to the required form. But please note that > > > > although this notification acknowledges the potential for health > > > > problems, the form is a full release of liability of all parties > > into > > > > the future. > > > > > > > > So if you purchase a HUD property, make sure you have appropriate > > > > inspections and assessments by ethical, qualified professionals. > > Not > > > > for the purpose of identifying what HUD needs to correct, but > > solely > > > > to determine whether or not to buy the house. In other words, if > > you > > > > buy you are buying the house " as is. " Bad, because nothing has > > > > changed despite the appearance to the contrary. > > > > > > > > What is so aggravating -- it took someone else pointing this out > > > > before I " got it " -- is that the initial impression is that HUD > > is > > > > protecting the health of buyers. In actuality and despite initial > > > > impressions, it is protecting everyone but the buyer (potential > > > > victim) by eliminating all recourse forever. Very, very bad. > > > > > > > > --------------------- > > > > Carl E.Grimes > > > > Healthy Habitats LLC > > > > grimes@h... > > > > 303-671-9653 > > > > 303-751-0416 fax > > > > ================== > > > > > > > > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > > > This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not > > always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are > > making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding = > > of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, > > scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this > > constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided > > for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title > > 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed > > without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in > > receiving the included information for research and educational > > purposes. For more information go to: > > http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use > > copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go > > beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright > > owner. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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