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If you go to the main web page there is a lot of information about the

military manuals, additionally if you look at the first link on this page:

http://www.nbc-med.org/SiteContent/HomePage/WhatsNew/MedAspects/contents.htm

the main page is at:

http://www.nbc-med.org/

I hope this helps!

Brad Marsh

-----Original Message-----

From: Patilla DaHun [mailto:glypella@...]

Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 9:14 AM

Brad Marsh

Subject: Re[2]: [] RE: mold testing prior to purchase

Brad, do you have any references online for these manuals? I'd like to

be able to present them when I reopen my case.

Barth

TOXIC MOLD SURVEY: www.presenting.net/sbs/sbssurvey.html

---

BM> You know what really chaps my hide? Well, I will tell you anyway!

LOL!

BM> The Army has Biological warfare manuals that deal with Tricothecenes,

as

BM> well as other mycotoxins. They have had this information for years.

How

BM> can another Government agency make a statement like;

BM> " In vitro and in vivo research on Stachybotrys chartarum suggests

BM> that effects in humans may be biologically plausible; these

BM> observations require validation from more extensive research before

BM> conclusions can be drawn. " (page 143).

BM> without knowing about the Army documents? Please find attached *.pdf.

BM> Brad Marsh

BM> -----Original Message-----

BM> From: Carl E. Grimes [mailto:grimes@...]

BM> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 9:10 PM

BM>

BM> Subject: Re: [] RE: mold testing prior to purchase

BM> Gil, Janet others,

Gil wrote------->>A common misperception in most medical articles is

BM> that mold only affects those with a pre-existing sensitivity.

BM> The IOM report has a whole chapter on this:

BM> Chapter 4 -- Toxic Effects of Fungi and Bacteria

BM> " Although a great deal of attention has focused on the effects of

BM> bacteria and fungi mediated by allergic responses, these

BM> microorganisms also cause nonallergic responses. Studies of health

BM> effects associated with exposure to bacteria and fungi show that

BM> respiratory and other effects that resemble allergic responses occur

BM> in nonatopic persons. " (page 109)

BM> FINDINGS, RECOMMENDATIONS, AND RESEARCH NEEDS

BM> " On the basis of its review of the papers, reports, and other

BM> information presented in this chapter, the committee has reached

BM> several findings and recommendations and has identified several

BM> research needs regarding the nonallergic effects of molds and

BM> bacteria found in damp indoor environments. " (page 142)

BM> They then list a series of logical statements beginning with mold

and

BM> bacteria are know to produce toxins, there are animal studies but

not

BM> enough human studies to draw a conclusion. Among them:

BM> " in vitro and in vivo studies have demonstrated adverse

BM> effects—including immunotoxic, neurologic, respiratory, and dermal

BM> responses—after exposure to specific toxins, bacteria, molds, or

BM> their products. (page 143).

BM> " In vitro and in vivo research on Stachybotrys chartarum suggests

BM> that effects in humans may be biologically plausible; these

BM> observations require validation from more extensive research before

BM> conclusions can be drawn. " (page 143).

BM> They then suggest animal studies for inhalation of low level, long

BM> term exposures " in order to generate information for risk assessment

BM> that is not available from studies of acute, high-level exposures. "

BM> (page 143).

BM> ---------------------

BM> Carl E.Grimes

BM> Healthy Habitats LLC

BM> grimes@...

BM> 303-671-9653

BM> 303-751-0416 fax

BM> ==================

BM> FAIR USE NOTICE:

BM> This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not

always

BM> been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making

such

BM> material available in our efforts to advance understanding of

environmental,

BM> political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social

justice

BM> issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such

BM> copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US

Copyright Law.

BM> In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this

site is

BM> distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior

interest in

BM> receiving the included information for research and educational

purposes.

BM> For more information go to:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml.

BM> If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of

your

BM> own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the

copyright

BM> owner.

BM>

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If you go to the main web page there is a lot of information about the

military manuals, additionally if you look at the first link on this page:

http://www.nbc-med.org/SiteContent/HomePage/WhatsNew/MedAspects/contents.htm

the main page is at:

http://www.nbc-med.org/

I hope this helps!

Brad Marsh

-----Original Message-----

From: Patilla DaHun [mailto:glypella@...]

Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 9:14 AM

Brad Marsh

Subject: Re[2]: [] RE: mold testing prior to purchase

Brad, do you have any references online for these manuals? I'd like to

be able to present them when I reopen my case.

Barth

TOXIC MOLD SURVEY: www.presenting.net/sbs/sbssurvey.html

---

BM> You know what really chaps my hide? Well, I will tell you anyway!

LOL!

BM> The Army has Biological warfare manuals that deal with Tricothecenes,

as

BM> well as other mycotoxins. They have had this information for years.

How

BM> can another Government agency make a statement like;

BM> " In vitro and in vivo research on Stachybotrys chartarum suggests

BM> that effects in humans may be biologically plausible; these

BM> observations require validation from more extensive research before

BM> conclusions can be drawn. " (page 143).

BM> without knowing about the Army documents? Please find attached *.pdf.

BM> Brad Marsh

BM> -----Original Message-----

BM> From: Carl E. Grimes [mailto:grimes@...]

BM> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 9:10 PM

BM>

BM> Subject: Re: [] RE: mold testing prior to purchase

BM> Gil, Janet others,

Gil wrote------->>A common misperception in most medical articles is

BM> that mold only affects those with a pre-existing sensitivity.

BM> The IOM report has a whole chapter on this:

BM> Chapter 4 -- Toxic Effects of Fungi and Bacteria

BM> " Although a great deal of attention has focused on the effects of

BM> bacteria and fungi mediated by allergic responses, these

BM> microorganisms also cause nonallergic responses. Studies of health

BM> effects associated with exposure to bacteria and fungi show that

BM> respiratory and other effects that resemble allergic responses occur

BM> in nonatopic persons. " (page 109)

BM> FINDINGS, RECOMMENDATIONS, AND RESEARCH NEEDS

BM> " On the basis of its review of the papers, reports, and other

BM> information presented in this chapter, the committee has reached

BM> several findings and recommendations and has identified several

BM> research needs regarding the nonallergic effects of molds and

BM> bacteria found in damp indoor environments. " (page 142)

BM> They then list a series of logical statements beginning with mold

and

BM> bacteria are know to produce toxins, there are animal studies but

not

BM> enough human studies to draw a conclusion. Among them:

BM> " in vitro and in vivo studies have demonstrated adverse

BM> effects—including immunotoxic, neurologic, respiratory, and dermal

BM> responses—after exposure to specific toxins, bacteria, molds, or

BM> their products. (page 143).

BM> " In vitro and in vivo research on Stachybotrys chartarum suggests

BM> that effects in humans may be biologically plausible; these

BM> observations require validation from more extensive research before

BM> conclusions can be drawn. " (page 143).

BM> They then suggest animal studies for inhalation of low level, long

BM> term exposures " in order to generate information for risk assessment

BM> that is not available from studies of acute, high-level exposures. "

BM> (page 143).

BM> ---------------------

BM> Carl E.Grimes

BM> Healthy Habitats LLC

BM> grimes@...

BM> 303-671-9653

BM> 303-751-0416 fax

BM> ==================

BM> FAIR USE NOTICE:

BM> This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not

always

BM> been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making

such

BM> material available in our efforts to advance understanding of

environmental,

BM> political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social

justice

BM> issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such

BM> copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US

Copyright Law.

BM> In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this

site is

BM> distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior

interest in

BM> receiving the included information for research and educational

purposes.

BM> For more information go to:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml.

BM> If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of

your

BM> own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the

copyright

BM> owner.

BM>

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That link, although I read it this afternoon, does not seem up now.

-----Original Message-----

From: Brad Marsh [mailto:ebmarsh2003@...]

Sent: Tue 6/8/2004 6:02 PM

Cc:

Subject: RE: Re[2]: [] RE: mold testing prior to purchase

If you go to the main web page there is a lot of information about the

military manuals, additionally if you look at the first link on this page:

http://www.nbc-med.org/SiteContent/HomePage/WhatsNew/MedAspects/contents.htm

the main page is at:

http://www.nbc-med.org/

I hope this helps!

Brad Marsh

-----Original Message-----

From: Patilla DaHun [mailto:glypella@...]

Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 9:14 AM

Brad Marsh

Subject: Re[2]: [] RE: mold testing prior to purchase

Brad, do you have any references online for these manuals? I'd like to

be able to present them when I reopen my case.

Barth

TOXIC MOLD SURVEY: www.presenting.net/sbs/sbssurvey.html

---

BM> You know what really chaps my hide? Well, I will tell you anyway!

LOL!

BM> The Army has Biological warfare manuals that deal with Tricothecenes,

as

BM> well as other mycotoxins. They have had this information for years.

How

BM> can another Government agency make a statement like;

BM> " In vitro and in vivo research on Stachybotrys chartarum suggests

BM> that effects in humans may be biologically plausible; these

BM> observations require validation from more extensive research before

BM> conclusions can be drawn. " (page 143).

BM> without knowing about the Army documents? Please find attached *.pdf.

BM> Brad Marsh

BM> -----Original Message-----

BM> From: Carl E. Grimes [mailto:grimes@...]

BM> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 9:10 PM

BM>

BM> Subject: Re: [] RE: mold testing prior to purchase

BM> Gil, Janet others,

Gil wrote------->>A common misperception in most medical articles is

BM> that mold only affects those with a pre-existing sensitivity.

BM> The IOM report has a whole chapter on this:

BM> Chapter 4 -- Toxic Effects of Fungi and Bacteria

BM> " Although a great deal of attention has focused on the effects of

BM> bacteria and fungi mediated by allergic responses, these

BM> microorganisms also cause nonallergic responses. Studies of health

BM> effects associated with exposure to bacteria and fungi show that

BM> respiratory and other effects that resemble allergic responses occur

BM> in nonatopic persons. " (page 109)

BM> FINDINGS, RECOMMENDATIONS, AND RESEARCH NEEDS

BM> " On the basis of its review of the papers, reports, and other

BM> information presented in this chapter, the committee has reached

BM> several findings and recommendations and has identified several

BM> research needs regarding the nonallergic effects of molds and

BM> bacteria found in damp indoor environments. " (page 142)

BM> They then list a series of logical statements beginning with mold

and

BM> bacteria are know to produce toxins, there are animal studies but

not

BM> enough human studies to draw a conclusion. Among them:

BM> " in vitro and in vivo studies have demonstrated adverse

BM> effects—including immunotoxic, neurologic, respiratory, and dermal

BM> responses—after exposure to specific toxins, bacteria, molds, or

BM> their products. (page 143).

BM> " In vitro and in vivo research on Stachybotrys chartarum suggests

BM> that effects in humans may be biologically plausible; these

BM> observations require validation from more extensive research before

BM> conclusions can be drawn. " (page 143).

BM> They then suggest animal studies for inhalation of low level, long

BM> term exposures " in order to generate information for risk assessment

BM> that is not available from studies of acute, high-level exposures. "

BM> (page 143).

BM> ---------------------

BM> Carl E.Grimes

BM> Healthy Habitats LLC

BM> grimes@...

BM> 303-671-9653

BM> 303-751-0416 fax

BM> ==================

BM> FAIR USE NOTICE:

BM> This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not

always

BM> been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making

such

BM> material available in our efforts to advance understanding of

environmental,

BM> political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social

justice

BM> issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such

BM> copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US

Copyright Law.

BM> In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this

site is

BM> distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior

interest in

BM> receiving the included information for research and educational

purposes.

BM> For more information go to:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml.

BM> If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of

your

BM> own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the

copyright

BM> owner.

BM>

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That link, although I read it this afternoon, does not seem up now.

-----Original Message-----

From: Brad Marsh [mailto:ebmarsh2003@...]

Sent: Tue 6/8/2004 6:02 PM

Cc:

Subject: RE: Re[2]: [] RE: mold testing prior to purchase

If you go to the main web page there is a lot of information about the

military manuals, additionally if you look at the first link on this page:

http://www.nbc-med.org/SiteContent/HomePage/WhatsNew/MedAspects/contents.htm

the main page is at:

http://www.nbc-med.org/

I hope this helps!

Brad Marsh

-----Original Message-----

From: Patilla DaHun [mailto:glypella@...]

Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 9:14 AM

Brad Marsh

Subject: Re[2]: [] RE: mold testing prior to purchase

Brad, do you have any references online for these manuals? I'd like to

be able to present them when I reopen my case.

Barth

TOXIC MOLD SURVEY: www.presenting.net/sbs/sbssurvey.html

---

BM> You know what really chaps my hide? Well, I will tell you anyway!

LOL!

BM> The Army has Biological warfare manuals that deal with Tricothecenes,

as

BM> well as other mycotoxins. They have had this information for years.

How

BM> can another Government agency make a statement like;

BM> " In vitro and in vivo research on Stachybotrys chartarum suggests

BM> that effects in humans may be biologically plausible; these

BM> observations require validation from more extensive research before

BM> conclusions can be drawn. " (page 143).

BM> without knowing about the Army documents? Please find attached *.pdf.

BM> Brad Marsh

BM> -----Original Message-----

BM> From: Carl E. Grimes [mailto:grimes@...]

BM> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 9:10 PM

BM>

BM> Subject: Re: [] RE: mold testing prior to purchase

BM> Gil, Janet others,

Gil wrote------->>A common misperception in most medical articles is

BM> that mold only affects those with a pre-existing sensitivity.

BM> The IOM report has a whole chapter on this:

BM> Chapter 4 -- Toxic Effects of Fungi and Bacteria

BM> " Although a great deal of attention has focused on the effects of

BM> bacteria and fungi mediated by allergic responses, these

BM> microorganisms also cause nonallergic responses. Studies of health

BM> effects associated with exposure to bacteria and fungi show that

BM> respiratory and other effects that resemble allergic responses occur

BM> in nonatopic persons. " (page 109)

BM> FINDINGS, RECOMMENDATIONS, AND RESEARCH NEEDS

BM> " On the basis of its review of the papers, reports, and other

BM> information presented in this chapter, the committee has reached

BM> several findings and recommendations and has identified several

BM> research needs regarding the nonallergic effects of molds and

BM> bacteria found in damp indoor environments. " (page 142)

BM> They then list a series of logical statements beginning with mold

and

BM> bacteria are know to produce toxins, there are animal studies but

not

BM> enough human studies to draw a conclusion. Among them:

BM> " in vitro and in vivo studies have demonstrated adverse

BM> effects—including immunotoxic, neurologic, respiratory, and dermal

BM> responses—after exposure to specific toxins, bacteria, molds, or

BM> their products. (page 143).

BM> " In vitro and in vivo research on Stachybotrys chartarum suggests

BM> that effects in humans may be biologically plausible; these

BM> observations require validation from more extensive research before

BM> conclusions can be drawn. " (page 143).

BM> They then suggest animal studies for inhalation of low level, long

BM> term exposures " in order to generate information for risk assessment

BM> that is not available from studies of acute, high-level exposures. "

BM> (page 143).

BM> ---------------------

BM> Carl E.Grimes

BM> Healthy Habitats LLC

BM> grimes@...

BM> 303-671-9653

BM> 303-751-0416 fax

BM> ==================

BM> FAIR USE NOTICE:

BM> This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not

always

BM> been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making

such

BM> material available in our efforts to advance understanding of

environmental,

BM> political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social

justice

BM> issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such

BM> copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US

Copyright Law.

BM> In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this

site is

BM> distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior

interest in

BM> receiving the included information for research and educational

purposes.

BM> For more information go to:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml.

BM> If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of

your

BM> own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the

copyright

BM> owner.

BM>

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SORRY, you have to add a lowercase L to the end, it is an html page, didn't copy

completely.

http://www.nbc-med.org/SiteContent/HomePage/WhatsNew/MedAspects/contents.html

-----Original Message-----

From: Page, [mailto:pageang@...]

Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 5:07 PM

Subject: RE: Re[2]: [] RE: mold testing prior to purchase

That link, although I read it this afternoon, does not seem up now.

-----Original Message-----

From: Brad Marsh [mailto:ebmarsh2003@...]

Sent: Tue 6/8/2004 6:02 PM

Cc:

Subject: RE: Re[2]: [] RE: mold testing prior to purchase

If you go to the main web page there is a lot of information about the

military manuals, additionally if you look at the first link on this

page:

http://www.nbc-med.org/SiteContent/HomePage/WhatsNew/MedAspects/contents.htm

the main page is at:

http://www.nbc-med.org/

I hope this helps!

Brad Marsh

-----Original Message-----

From: Patilla DaHun [mailto:glypella@...]

Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 9:14 AM

Brad Marsh

Subject: Re[2]: [] RE: mold testing prior to purchase

Brad, do you have any references online for these manuals? I'd like to

be able to present them when I reopen my case.

Barth

TOXIC MOLD SURVEY: www.presenting.net/sbs/sbssurvey.html

---

BM> You know what really chaps my hide? Well, I will tell you anyway!

LOL!

BM> The Army has Biological warfare manuals that deal with

Tricothecenes,

as

BM> well as other mycotoxins. They have had this information for

years.

How

BM> can another Government agency make a statement like;

BM> " In vitro and in vivo research on Stachybotrys chartarum suggests

BM> that effects in humans may be biologically plausible; these

BM> observations require validation from more extensive research

before

BM> conclusions can be drawn. " (page 143).

BM> without knowing about the Army documents? Please find attached

*.pdf.

BM> Brad Marsh

BM> -----Original Message-----

BM> From: Carl E. Grimes [mailto:grimes@...]

BM> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 9:10 PM

BM>

BM> Subject: Re: [] RE: mold testing prior to purchase

BM> Gil, Janet others,

Gil wrote------->>A common misperception in most medical articles

is

BM> that mold only affects those with a pre-existing sensitivity.

BM> The IOM report has a whole chapter on this:

BM> Chapter 4 -- Toxic Effects of Fungi and Bacteria

BM> " Although a great deal of attention has focused on the effects

of

BM> bacteria and fungi mediated by allergic responses, these

BM> microorganisms also cause nonallergic responses. Studies of

health

BM> effects associated with exposure to bacteria and fungi show that

BM> respiratory and other effects that resemble allergic responses

occur

BM> in nonatopic persons. " (page 109)

BM> FINDINGS, RECOMMENDATIONS, AND RESEARCH NEEDS

BM> " On the basis of its review of the papers, reports, and other

BM> information presented in this chapter, the committee has reached

BM> several findings and recommendations and has identified several

BM> research needs regarding the nonallergic effects of molds and

BM> bacteria found in damp indoor environments. " (page 142)

BM> They then list a series of logical statements beginning with

mold

and

BM> bacteria are know to produce toxins, there are animal studies

but

not

BM> enough human studies to draw a conclusion. Among them:

BM> " in vitro and in vivo studies have demonstrated adverse

BM> effects—including immunotoxic, neurologic, respiratory, and

dermal

BM> responses—after exposure to specific toxins, bacteria, molds,

or

BM> their products. (page 143).

BM> " In vitro and in vivo research on Stachybotrys chartarum

suggests

BM> that effects in humans may be biologically plausible; these

BM> observations require validation from more extensive research

before

BM> conclusions can be drawn. " (page 143).

BM> They then suggest animal studies for inhalation of low level,

long

BM> term exposures " in order to generate information for risk

assessment

BM> that is not available from studies of acute, high-level

exposures. "

BM> (page 143).

BM> ---------------------

BM> Carl E.Grimes

BM> Healthy Habitats LLC

BM> grimes@...

BM> 303-671-9653

BM> 303-751-0416 fax

BM> ==================

BM> FAIR USE NOTICE:

BM> This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not

always

BM> been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making

such

BM> material available in our efforts to advance understanding of

environmental,

BM> political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and

social

justice

BM> issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such

BM> copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US

Copyright Law.

BM> In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on

this

site is

BM> distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior

interest in

BM> receiving the included information for research and educational

purposes.

BM> For more information go to:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml.

BM> If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for

purposes of

your

BM> own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the

copyright

BM> owner.

BM>

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SORRY, you have to add a lowercase L to the end, it is an html page, didn't copy

completely.

http://www.nbc-med.org/SiteContent/HomePage/WhatsNew/MedAspects/contents.html

-----Original Message-----

From: Page, [mailto:pageang@...]

Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 5:07 PM

Subject: RE: Re[2]: [] RE: mold testing prior to purchase

That link, although I read it this afternoon, does not seem up now.

-----Original Message-----

From: Brad Marsh [mailto:ebmarsh2003@...]

Sent: Tue 6/8/2004 6:02 PM

Cc:

Subject: RE: Re[2]: [] RE: mold testing prior to purchase

If you go to the main web page there is a lot of information about the

military manuals, additionally if you look at the first link on this

page:

http://www.nbc-med.org/SiteContent/HomePage/WhatsNew/MedAspects/contents.htm

the main page is at:

http://www.nbc-med.org/

I hope this helps!

Brad Marsh

-----Original Message-----

From: Patilla DaHun [mailto:glypella@...]

Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 9:14 AM

Brad Marsh

Subject: Re[2]: [] RE: mold testing prior to purchase

Brad, do you have any references online for these manuals? I'd like to

be able to present them when I reopen my case.

Barth

TOXIC MOLD SURVEY: www.presenting.net/sbs/sbssurvey.html

---

BM> You know what really chaps my hide? Well, I will tell you anyway!

LOL!

BM> The Army has Biological warfare manuals that deal with

Tricothecenes,

as

BM> well as other mycotoxins. They have had this information for

years.

How

BM> can another Government agency make a statement like;

BM> " In vitro and in vivo research on Stachybotrys chartarum suggests

BM> that effects in humans may be biologically plausible; these

BM> observations require validation from more extensive research

before

BM> conclusions can be drawn. " (page 143).

BM> without knowing about the Army documents? Please find attached

*.pdf.

BM> Brad Marsh

BM> -----Original Message-----

BM> From: Carl E. Grimes [mailto:grimes@...]

BM> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 9:10 PM

BM>

BM> Subject: Re: [] RE: mold testing prior to purchase

BM> Gil, Janet others,

Gil wrote------->>A common misperception in most medical articles

is

BM> that mold only affects those with a pre-existing sensitivity.

BM> The IOM report has a whole chapter on this:

BM> Chapter 4 -- Toxic Effects of Fungi and Bacteria

BM> " Although a great deal of attention has focused on the effects

of

BM> bacteria and fungi mediated by allergic responses, these

BM> microorganisms also cause nonallergic responses. Studies of

health

BM> effects associated with exposure to bacteria and fungi show that

BM> respiratory and other effects that resemble allergic responses

occur

BM> in nonatopic persons. " (page 109)

BM> FINDINGS, RECOMMENDATIONS, AND RESEARCH NEEDS

BM> " On the basis of its review of the papers, reports, and other

BM> information presented in this chapter, the committee has reached

BM> several findings and recommendations and has identified several

BM> research needs regarding the nonallergic effects of molds and

BM> bacteria found in damp indoor environments. " (page 142)

BM> They then list a series of logical statements beginning with

mold

and

BM> bacteria are know to produce toxins, there are animal studies

but

not

BM> enough human studies to draw a conclusion. Among them:

BM> " in vitro and in vivo studies have demonstrated adverse

BM> effects—including immunotoxic, neurologic, respiratory, and

dermal

BM> responses—after exposure to specific toxins, bacteria, molds,

or

BM> their products. (page 143).

BM> " In vitro and in vivo research on Stachybotrys chartarum

suggests

BM> that effects in humans may be biologically plausible; these

BM> observations require validation from more extensive research

before

BM> conclusions can be drawn. " (page 143).

BM> They then suggest animal studies for inhalation of low level,

long

BM> term exposures " in order to generate information for risk

assessment

BM> that is not available from studies of acute, high-level

exposures. "

BM> (page 143).

BM> ---------------------

BM> Carl E.Grimes

BM> Healthy Habitats LLC

BM> grimes@...

BM> 303-671-9653

BM> 303-751-0416 fax

BM> ==================

BM> FAIR USE NOTICE:

BM> This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not

always

BM> been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making

such

BM> material available in our efforts to advance understanding of

environmental,

BM> political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and

social

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