Re[2]: RE: mold testing prior to purchase

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Thanks so much Brad!

Barth

TOXIC MOLD SURVEY: www.presenting.net/sbs/sbssurvey.html

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BM> Well, since I can't attach the file, here is the link to all the military

BM> NBC (nuclear biological and chemical warfare) documentation.

BM> http://www.nbc-med.org/SiteContent/HomePage/WhatsNew/MedAspects/contents.htm

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BM>   -----Original Message-----

BM>   From: Brad Marsh [mailto:ebmarsh2003@...]

BM>   Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 7:19 AM

BM>  

BM>   Subject: RE: [] RE: mold testing prior to purchase

BM>   Trying again with the attachment.

BM>     -----Original Message-----

BM>     From: Brad Marsh [mailto:ebmarsh2003@...]

BM>     Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 6:51 AM

BM>    

BM>     Subject: RE: [] RE: mold testing prior to purchase

BM>     You know what really chaps my hide?  Well, I will tell you anyway!  LOL!

BM>     The Army has Biological warfare manuals that deal with Tricothecenes, as

BM>     well as other mycotoxins.  They have had this information for years.

BM> How

BM>     can another Government agency make a statement like;

BM>     " In vitro and in vivo research on Stachybotrys chartarum suggests

BM>     that effects in humans may be biologically plausible; these

BM>     observations require validation from more extensive research before

BM>     conclusions can be drawn. " (page 143).

BM>     without knowing about the Army documents?  Please find attached *.pdf.

BM>     Brad Marsh

BM>       -----Original Message-----

BM>       From: Carl E. Grimes [mailto:grimes@...]

BM>       Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 9:10 PM

BM>      

BM>       Subject: Re: [] RE: mold testing prior to purchase

BM>       Gil, Janet others,

BM>       Gil wrote------->A common  misperception in most medical articles is

BM>       that mold only affects those with a pre-existing sensitivity.

BM>       The IOM report has a whole chapter on this:

BM>       Chapter 4 -- Toxic Effects of Fungi and Bacteria

BM>       " Although a great deal of attention has focused on the effects of

BM>       bacteria and fungi mediated by allergic responses, these

BM>       microorganisms also cause nonallergic responses. Studies of health

BM>       effects associated with exposure to bacteria and fungi show that

BM>       respiratory and other effects that resemble allergic responses occur

BM>       in nonatopic persons. " (page 109)

BM>       FINDINGS, RECOMMENDATIONS, AND RESEARCH NEEDS

BM>       " On the basis of its review of the papers, reports, and other

BM>       information presented in this chapter, the committee has reached

BM>       several findings and recommendations and has identified several

BM>       research needs regarding the nonallergic effects of molds and

BM>       bacteria found in damp indoor environments. " (page 142)

BM>       They then list a series of logical statements beginning with mold and

BM>       bacteria are know to produce toxins, there are animal studies but not

BM>       enough human studies to draw a conclusion. Among them:

BM>       " in vitro and in vivo studies have demonstrated adverse

BM>       effects—including immunotoxic, neurologic, respiratory, and dermal

BM>       responses—after exposure to specific toxins, bacteria, molds, or

BM>       their products. (page 143).

BM>       " In vitro and in vivo research on Stachybotrys chartarum suggests

BM>       that effects in humans may be biologically plausible; these

BM>       observations require validation from more extensive research before

BM>       conclusions can be drawn. " (page 143).

BM>       They then suggest animal studies for inhalation of low level, long

BM>       term exposures " in order to generate information for risk assessment

BM>       that is not available from studies of acute, high-level exposures. "

BM>       (page 143).

BM>       ---------------------

BM>       Carl E.Grimes

BM>       Healthy Habitats LLC

BM>       grimes@...

BM>       303-671-9653

BM>       303-751-0416 fax

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