Re: Cross-contamination Experiences

[Guest guest]

Hey I just started with Marinkovich. He reckons I'll be alright

eventually - like a year + from now. He seems like a good enough

doctor - certainly better than the nit-wits I had the whole of last

year. Any opinons from those that have been seeing him long-term?

On another note: I notice the same thing. I stay away from mold 100%

and have rid myself of old belongings - however, I am wondering if

there isn't a deeper effect of these molds - like the " out gassing "

I've been reading about.

Secondly, If I stay away from the Bay Area peninsula specifically, I

do pretty good. It's as if whatever I am reacting to is like a cloud

over this area. I do fine in San Francisco and other areas away from

here - especially staying away from City which is a big mold

pit in the center of waterways that never really get flushed out by

tides.

Thirdly, I wonder if it is a combination of mold and it reacting to

the toxic exhaust of SFO (our local international airport) planes.

They fly right over our area to land. Wonder if man-made chemicals

increase / alter the toxicity of mold and its effects.

Any opinions??

Angelika

--- In , " julesblucky " <julesblucky@y...>

wrote:

> Hey ,

> I've been seeing Dr. Marinkovich for a year now, following his azole

> anti-fungal protocol. I'm interested in what you discovered regarding

> the azole-resistant fungus. Is this in relation to stachy/other molds?

> How did you finally identify the species? Or did you just try a

> different medication and it worked for you?

>

> Jules

>

> > It's a shame that Dr Marinkovich's actions force me say say anything

> > bad about him. He seemed like a great and caring doctor.

> > But his treatment, or lack thereof, of my situation was almost

> > beyond belief. Among other things, he flat out refused to help me

> > identify a fungal infection. When I found a veterinary lab that

> > finally did, I contacted him to explain why it was important to

> > identify the species, that I had, and that its lack of response to

> > generalized treatment was that it was inherently azole resistant and

> > required a different approach. Dr Marinkovich still refused to do

> > anything beyond his standard approach despite the demonstrable need.

[Guest guest]

Hey Angelika,

I've been seeing Marinkovich for about a year. We'll see what my 1

year IGg levels are in a couple weeks. I'm not feeling as good as I

had hoped, but my levels to mold were were pretty high (3-4 stars

out of 4 stars). How were your test results? Did he put you on

antifungal therapy?

I've had a number of setbacks, experiencing a big one currently,

mostly relating to cross-contamination issues. Usually involve me

going back and bringing something from my past forward...just not

thinking about what I'm doing (partly because of brain fog), feeling

better and thinking I can get away with it, and thinking the old

rules still apply (not making the emotional/mental mind shift - - -

denial? maybe.).

Amazing how sick you can become from a piece of paper contaminated

with mycotoxins once you're " sensitized " . Think I read somewhere

that a piece of paper contaminated with mycotoxins from stachy can

make a " man " sick for 3 days....assuming a one-time exposure. How

does that translate for those of us who were exposed over a period

of time? I don't think we know.

I think you're absolutely right about mycotoxins interacting with

other elements, and the environment, and it all being very complex.

First of all, we don't know what happens when you're exposed to a

variety of molds, how they interact with each other.

Also, usually when there are molds, there are also bacteria, and

some of these include proteins which can also bring hypersensitivity

issues, as I understand it.

Then there's the general toxic load that, we, as human beings, are

exposed to on a daily basis. Whether in the city or the country

doesn't seem to matter. I've read stories of people who moved to

the country to get away from the pollution and the rat race, only to

discover they were being contaminated by some chemical that was

being sprayed on the crops.

What are you gonna do? Especially if there are no determined

acceptable safe limits, no laws, etc. It seems that Canada is

pretty ahead of the times, based on the previously posted article.

Jules

[Guest guest]

My IGg levels were off the chart on one mold in particular. Also determined

that my lung capacity is now 10% below normal. Great. Never was before.

Yes, I am on anti-fungal treatment. The second day after beginning treatment

I blew my nose and noticed grayish color and tiny black bits in it. (dying

colonies?) Thoroughly grossed out. Then I cleared my throat and hacked up

gray mucous. Equally gross. I expect set-backs but I can't wait to move the

H*** out of here. (two weeks and counting). I've set myself a goal to be out

of the area, far away from this complex, in two weeks.

Angelika

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> Hey Angelika,

> I've been seeing Marinkovich for about a year. We'll see what my 1

> year IGg levels are in a couple weeks. I'm not feeling as good as I

> had hoped, but my levels to mold were were pretty high (3-4 stars

> out of 4 stars). How were your test results? Did he put you on

> antifungal therapy?

>

[Guest guest]

Yeah. Non-allergy, but high sensitivitiy to molds after work/home

exposure.

I had elevated IGg levels to about 8 different molds. Most of them

were lowering after 6 months so I'm curious to see what it will show

after a year. I think there were a couple that stayed about the

same.

Wow! That's interesting that you're experiencing your body trying to

get out the mold. Hopefully it's a good sign of your body clearing

the stuff out, and not that you're still being exposed. I think

people generally know their own bodies better than any Dr. so just

do whatever you have to do.

Did you suffer from the Herxheimer reaction when you began on the

antifungals? I initially felt like I had the flu, which I guess is

a good sign, killing the mold. Over time I don't feel sick anymore.

Jules

> My IGg levels were off the chart on one mold in particular. Also

determined

> that my lung capacity is now 10% below normal. Great. Never was

before.

> Yes, I am on anti-fungal treatment. The second day after beginning

treatment

> I blew my nose and noticed grayish color and tiny black bits in

it. (dying

> colonies?) Thoroughly grossed out. Then I cleared my throat and

hacked up

> gray mucous. Equally gross. I expect set-backs but I can't wait to

move the

> H*** out of here. (two weeks and counting). I've set myself a goal

to be out

> of the area, far away from this complex, in two weeks.

>

> Angelika

>

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> > Hey Angelika,

> > I've been seeing Marinkovich for about a year. We'll see what my

1

> > year IGg levels are in a couple weeks. I'm not feeling as good

as I

> > had hoped, but my levels to mold were were pretty high (3-4 stars

> > out of 4 stars). How were your test results? Did he put you on

> > antifungal therapy?

> >

[Guest guest]

HI Jules -

RE: Herxheimer effect....

Oh yeah - day two was horrific. Weird aches, sweating, flu-ish, dizzy, slept

nearly non-stop and I cried a lot.

I took a de-tox bath Sunday morning (cried all through that too) and then

felt better. LOTS of distilled water helped. But I had to back off the meds

and try again in a week - this time more slowly. Ugh.

Angelika

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> >

> > > Hey Angelika,

> > > I've been seeing Marinkovich for about a year. We'll see what my

> 1

> > > year IGg levels are in a couple weeks. I'm not feeling as good

> as I

> > > had hoped, but my levels to mold were were pretty high (3-4 stars

> > > out of 4 stars). How were your test results? Did he put you on

> > > antifungal therapy?

> > >

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[Guest guest]

Yep. Sounds very familiar.

> > > My IGg levels were off the chart on one mold in particular.

Also

> > determined

> > > that my lung capacity is now 10% below normal. Great. Never was

> > before.

> > > Yes, I am on anti-fungal treatment. The second day after

beginning

> > treatment

> > > I blew my nose and noticed grayish color and tiny black bits in

> > it. (dying

> > > colonies?) Thoroughly grossed out. Then I cleared my throat and

> > hacked up

> > > gray mucous. Equally gross. I expect set-backs but I can't

wait to

> > move the

> > > H*** out of here. (two weeks and counting). I've set myself a

goal

> > to be out

> > > of the area, far away from this complex, in two weeks.

> > >

> > > Angelika

> > >

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> > >

> > >

> > > > Hey Angelika,

> > > > I've been seeing Marinkovich for about a year. We'll see

what my

> > 1

> > > > year IGg levels are in a couple weeks. I'm not feeling as

good

> > as I

> > > > had hoped, but my levels to mold were were pretty high (3-4

stars

> > > > out of 4 stars). How were your test results? Did he put you

on

> > > > antifungal therapy?

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