Mold remediation

[Guest guest]

Hello all,

I  emailed this to another member of the group, and thought it might be

helpful

to others out there.  I am not affliated with this company, just writing f=

rom my

own experience as a mold victim.

http://www.allergybuyersclub.com/

I bought the BlueAir Purifier, which I love, and also three of the Air-Fre=

e

Sterilizers.  They have good descriptions of all the products, and since m=

y

industrial hygienist (PH.D) told me that they work, I decided to buy them.=

  She

said that all the air tests she did in homes with those air-purifiers sold=

on

Sharper Image or something, had very low mold counts.  You should also get=

a dehumidifier and use it in conjunction with the air-purifiers.  Keep the=

humidity at 45% and no more mold will grow, as the moisture makes the

spores multiply rapidly.  They also sell meters to check the humidity in y=

our

home, and they are fairly inexpensive.  Get rid of upholstered items,

mattresses,  and wash clothing in very hot water.  They say you can dry cl=

ean

some items.  You will have to wash down all the furniture (wood), I used

's oil soap, and then anti-bacterial wipes.  Also, if you have carpe=

ting,

it could be contaminated as well.  Wash floors using a mild bleach solutio=

n

(that is what my doctor told me).  Don't spend a fortune to remediate now,=

as

you can tell many ordinary cleaning companies what you want done, and

have it done yourself.  Have them wash down the walls as well.

[Guest guest]

Thanks ,

I have just a couple further questions (I can't wait to order the book)

So here are the steps I am taking over the next 5-7 days.

1) Have my current apartment tested (by independent lab) for LEVELS of mold and

identification of what TYPES of molds are present.

2) Regardless if these are toxic molds or not - I will move to the new apartment

within 48 hours, BUT wash down the few items I will be taking with me. (No

mattresses, only sheets, a new pillow I bought) and my toiletries. I'll sleep on

the floor. The rest of my belongings stay in the current apartment until tests

are complete.

3) Current apartment tested and depending on what type of mold is found (toxic /

non-toxic but allergic), I will insist that either

a) ALL my belongs be replaced or

washed down with the appropriate fungicide before moving them to new

apartment.

Either way I will replace non-hard surface items (like my couch, mattress etc.)

The complex has agreed to pay for items I must replace. Have my clothing washed

or dry-cleaned before moving them over also.

So..............

Is this a good tactic to take over the next week? Is there anything else I

should do /not do? My apartment complex is taking this seriously. BTW - they

know that certain buildings have water damage and are taking steps. So they know

that mold in some units is a very real possibility.

[] Re: Mold remediation

The short answer to both your questions is YES. The sooner you can

move of that toxic environment, the better....you will notice an

improvement in your health (once you've left), although the mycotoxins

doesn't easily leave the body & you may incur continued health

problems/symptoms.

The MD most mentioned & recommended by people on this Group is

Dr Ritchie Shoemaker in Pocomoke City, land. His office ph # is

410-957-1550 and website is http://www.chronicneurotoxins.com/ He

has recently published a book called " Mold Warrior " and you can order

it by calling his office. Cholestyramine (or Questran) taken 4 times

a day is typically the medication he prescribes for Sick Building,

Lyme, etc patients.

If you have further questions, feel free to post away.

> Hello all - I am new and have a serious question. It's been

confirmed

> (by doctors) that my year long (serious) healthy complaints are due

to

> mold exposure. Although my apartment complex is offering to move me

> for free - should I not be concerned with mold having gotten into

and

> onto my personal belongs? Wouldn't I just be moving mold with me??

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> 2) Regardless if these are toxic molds or not - I will move to the

new apartment within 48 hours, BUT wash down the few items I will be

taking with me. (No mattresses, only sheets, a new pillow I bought)

and my toiletries. I'll sleep on the floor. The rest of my belongings

stay in the current apartment until tests are complete.

>

The PILLOW is the absolute worst thing to take with you.

That means you will be trying to sleep with your face next to a known

contaminated article.

If you read Dr Joe Kleins Stachybotrys website, you'll see that spores

carried home in your hair and deposited in your pillow is one of the

MOST CRITICAL cross contamination issues.

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[Guest guest]

HI -

thanks for the reply - I bought the pillow NEW. Meaning I took it out of the bag

in the NEW place so that I wouldn't cross-contaminate

[] Re: Mold remediation

> 2) Regardless if these are toxic molds or not - I will move to the

new apartment within 48 hours, BUT wash down the few items I will be

taking with me. (No mattresses, only sheets, a new pillow I bought)

and my toiletries. I'll sleep on the floor. The rest of my belongings

stay in the current apartment until tests are complete.

>

The PILLOW is the absolute worst thing to take with you.

That means you will be trying to sleep with your face next to a known

contaminated article.

If you read Dr Joe Kleins Stachybotrys website, you'll see that spores

carried home in your hair and deposited in your pillow is one of the

MOST CRITICAL cross contamination issues.

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> If you read Dr Joe Kleins Stachybotrys website

Could you give the URL please? I couldn't find it by googling.

[Guest guest]

STACHYBOTRYS WEB SITE: Posts of ph P. Klein, Sr. M.D

http://www.stachy.5u.com/posts.html

--- In , " kl_clayton " <kl_clayton@y...>

wrote:

> > If you read Dr Joe Kleins Stachybotrys website

>

> Could you give the URL please? I couldn't find it by googling.

[Guest guest]

> HI -

> thanks for the reply - I bought the pillow NEW. Meaning I took it

out of the bag in the NEW place so that I wouldn't cross-

contaminate

I don't use a standard pillow, since they basically unwashable and

eventually they pick up contaminents despite the most stringent

precautions.

So I asked myself " Why fight it? "

I just use rolled up towel inside a pillow case and change it out

every few nights.

That way I know for sure that the place I lay my face is pristine.

-

[Guest guest]

Hi Angelika - sorry for just now replying. Sounds like the apartment

management is going the extra mile to keep you as a resident. :-)

Ideally, be careful if you sleep on a newly carpeted apartment. The

new carpet is emitting a toxin, something you don't want. Ideally,

move into an apartment with hardwood floors.

As far as clothes, I know I was re-exposed to mycotoxins when I moved

my clothes to another residence. Washing all my non-drycleanables

seemed to have help tremendously. I know a few people in this Group

use Borax, vinegar, etc for washing their clothes (I personally

haven't had to resort to doing that). Dry cleaning any contaminated

clothing would not be a good idea.

I'm curious...your apartment will be tested for mold levels...does

that mean your intentions are to continue living there? Would it be

possible for the testers to see if your temporary housing is okay so

you can make it your " new " residence? Going back to live in a

contaminated environment would be dangerous.

--- In , " angelika " <angelika@p...>

wrote:

> Thanks ,

> I have just a couple further questions (I can't wait to order the

book) So here are the steps I am taking over the next 5-7 days.

>

> 1) Have my current apartment tested (by independent lab) for LEVELS

of mold and identification of what TYPES of molds are present.

>

> 2) Regardless if these are toxic molds or not - I will move to the

new apartment within 48 hours, BUT wash down the few items I will be

taking with me. (No mattresses, only sheets, a new pillow I bought)

and my toiletries. I'll sleep on the floor. The rest of my belongings

stay in the current apartment until tests are complete.

>

> 3) Current apartment tested and depending on what type of mold is

found (toxic / non-toxic but allergic), I will insist that either

> a) ALL my belongs be replaced or

> washed down with the appropriate fungicide before moving them to

new apartment.

> Either way I will replace non-hard surface items (like my couch,

mattress etc.) The complex has agreed to pay for items I must

replace. Have my clothing washed or dry-cleaned before moving them

over also.

>

> So..............

> Is this a good tactic to take over the next week? Is there anything

else I should do /not do? My apartment complex is taking this

seriously. BTW - they know that certain buildings have water damage

and are taking steps. So they know that mold in some units is a very

real possibility.

[Guest guest]

>

> > HI -

> > thanks for the reply - I bought the pillow NEW. Meaning I took it

> out of the bag in the NEW place so that I wouldn't cross-

> contaminate

>

> I just use rolled up towel inside a pillow case and change it out

> every few nights.

> That way I know for sure that the place I lay my face is pristine.

> -

As has noted in the past, " New " does not mean " uncontaminated " .

I envision moldy warehouses in China staging all our commodity hardgoods.

I was using a small WalMart travel pillow in my sleeping bag last

year. They cost about $2.50, seem to be able to be thoroughly washable

(at least in a front loader), air dry quickly, and don't cruise around

in the night -- they stay tucked in the hood of a mummy bag just right.

[Guest guest]

,

I wanted to ask, how long did you sleep outdoors? Was it in your or

someone else's yard or park or what? What circumstances moved you

back inside? Excuse me if it is in book. I have skipped around book

in my reading.

Barb

--- In , " moldincolo " <jonathan1@a...>

wrote:

> I was using a small WalMart travel pillow in my sleeping bag last

> year. They cost about $2.50, seem to be able to be thoroughly

washable

> (at least in a front loader), air dry quickly, and don't cruise

around

> in the night -- they stay tucked in the hood of a mummy bag just

right.

>

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