Guest guest Posted July 13, 2004 Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 , I have taken hundreds of samples of dust from air conditioning systems. The particulates are identical to the house dust: mostly skin scales and fibers from clothing, carpets, pet dander (if animals have ever been present), etc. If blowers are operating with open windows, there would also be pollen and other plant materials. NIn general, nearly all the biodegradable material is from WITHIN the home. In homes where the HVAC system was (foolishly) operating during construction or renovation (particularly floor sanding) much of the dust consists of sawdust (cellulose) and /or inorganic crystals from drywall/joint compound. There is quite an ecology in the bioslime that eventually forms on an AC coil or in a condensate pan. First bacteria flourish, then yeast. (This is the " sweat-sock " associated with the initial operation of the blower.) Conditions are often too wet in the pan for mold, but mold may infiltrate the damp dust layer on a soiled AC coil. (I have photos of this in " The Mold Survival Guide. " ) The most common species on coils is Cladosporium cladosporiodes. There are often significant patches of Penicillium and/or Aspergillus species in the fiberglass lining material if it has been damp from pan overflow or splash from the coil. The only way to avoid all this mess is to install media filters (MERV 6 or better, MERV 12) from day one of system operation and NEVER operate the system during very dusty work. May May Indoor Air Investigations LLC wrote: > > There are 4 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Substrates > From: " moldincolo " <jonathan1@...> > 2. Re: All cancer cells are \ " fermented\ " cells > From: " gordon bobson " <gordonb1964@...> > 3. Tsunami > From: " moldincolo " <jonathan1@...> > 4. Re: Tsunami > From: nomoreschoolmold@... > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:01:15 -0000 > From: " moldincolo " <jonathan1@...> > Subject: Substrates > > I have a question. > > There is a lot of evidence of mold infestations in building cooling systems like air conditioners and swamp coolers. However, there is also a fair > amount of speculation that the substrate growth material, such as drywall and plywood, is contributory to degree of toxicicity in secondary > metabolites. In the case of HVAC system contamination only, (such as the recent Governors mansion in South Carolina). if it is assumed that the > orginating spores come from the ambient environment, then this raises two possibilities. > > A: If the dust in a HVAC system is largely comprised of material from the interior of the structure, such as bleached paper, carpet fibers, plywood/ > glue particles, or even human oils, then this would indicate that the substrate material is the offending agent in promoting toxicity. > > B: If the dust in the HVAC is primarily from the outside of the building, then this would suggest that the concentration of exposure is the primary > factor in causing mycotoxicity in susceptable individuals. > > As I have found organic mulch piles that caused my reactivity, and others here have made similar references, I am leaning towards the second > scenario. Does anyone have any information on the composition of dusts in air handling systems that have been taken from contaminated > environments? > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:45:21 -0000 > From: " gordon bobson " <gordonb1964@...> > Subject: Re: All cancer cells are \ " fermented\ " cells > > Has anyone looked into ALKALINE diets? It is moreso about finding a > BALANCE between acidity & alkalinity, really. > > This not only works to detox the body, but gives molds, fungi, yeast, > cancer cells, a rather hostile environment in which to live - > therefore, they do not. It is also a safe, effective way to lose > weight (20lbs in 6 weeks - which I beleive was the result of cutting > out sugar & fruit juice). It corrolates to what I have read in " The > Yeast Connection " . > > Check it out, you may find the info below useful. I found the > information in another group that I belong to, I tried it and > although I was skeptical at first, seeing is beleiving! > > GordonB > > PDF chart of Alkaline vs. Acidic foods: > > http://www.betterbones.com/alkaline/articles/chart%20p12.pdf > > --------------------------- > > Info on the importance of alkaline balance in our bodies: > > http://www.betterbones.com/alkaline/index.htm > > (The site is about osteoporosis, but there is a lot of good info – > surf around to their articles page: > http://www.betterbones.com/alkaline/abstracts.htm ) > > ---------------------------- > > Good deals on PH strips & KETO strips as well: > > http://www.ph-ion.com > > I got the 3 pack for 19.95 - 80 strips in each bottle, very good > deal, and easy to use) > > ----------------------------- > > > > > Hi KC, > > > This is not referring to the fermented cells thing, but do want > to ask > > > you something. > > > My nephew, Jim, lives in Tucson, AZ--we spoke recently and I > mentioned > > > your knowledge of molds--to which he asked if I would check on > something > > > for him. Here is Jim's question: Do you know the composite of > molds by > > > region of the country---in other words, are the molds the same > composite > > > in his area as they are here in the south, etc.? > > > Will wait for your answer...hope things are going well for you. > > > Take care, > > > Ruth > > > PS: we saw the oncologist today---he said that he conferred with > other > > > doctors he knows and that they will not be doing any chemo on > Bryce > > > now---maybe later if tumors begin to show up again. he will have > a chest > > > CT scan done when we see the sarcoma specialist on Tuesday the > 13th. So > > > that is a bit of a relief for now. > > > We asked about using natural therapies, and he said that he does > not > > > promote it, but neither does he discount it as a help for the > cancer. > > > Bryce is getting fresh carrot juice mixed with apple and greens > at least > > > 4 times a day now, plus lots of grains, fresh fruit and > vegetables and > > > filtered water. He sees a Naturapath doc (Kight) in Winder every > 2 weeks > > > also. > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > > > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > > > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 20:41:44 -0000 > From: " moldincolo " <jonathan1@...> > Subject: Tsunami > > This group owes thanks to rainbowcarebearstitch10 for ongoing research and the posting of relevant studies that clearly illustrate the effects and > implications of mold exposure.. > > While the current defensive position of the medical community, insurance industry and public administrators is to claim a lack of evidence of mycotic > disease, the flood of information is becoming undeniable. > > America is not, and never has been, a nation that needs to be spoon fed information in order to make up it's mind about anything. This country > handled World War II, and countless other crises -- the truth about pathogenic molds needs to come to a national awareness, and will be dealt with > however it needs to be. > > > > " Truth is the ultimate power. When the truth comes around, all the lies have to run and hide " - Ice Cube > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 00:34:41 EDT > From: nomoreschoolmold@... > Subject: Re: Tsunami > > Some additional links - some from this site is incorporated into the links > below - many thanks to you all, who are helping keep a watch on the political > world of mold untruths > > http://www.schoolmoldhelp.org/research.html > > http://www.schoolmoldhelp.org/links.html > > http://www.schoolmoldhelp.org/law.html > > http://www.schoolmoldhelp.org/index.html > > So many of the poorly designed/constructed buildings are making us sick - at > home, at the office, at school - whether our government wishes to admit it or > not. We must insist that they do admit it and that our physicians recognize > these building related illnesses. > > As a teacher sickened in two buildings, after working in many leaky and old > schools, I can tell you that it is more common than not to have unabated leaks > and crumbling buildings in your public schools. Parents, please inspect your > local schools and force them to be fixed, before these become a cause of your > child's lifelong illness! > > Thanks to all of you on this dynamic site - I learn so much from you all! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2004 Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 , I have taken hundreds of samples of dust from air conditioning systems. The particulates are identical to the house dust: mostly skin scales and fibers from clothing, carpets, pet dander (if animals have ever been present), etc. If blowers are operating with open windows, there would also be pollen and other plant materials. NIn general, nearly all the biodegradable material is from WITHIN the home. In homes where the HVAC system was (foolishly) operating during construction or renovation (particularly floor sanding) much of the dust consists of sawdust (cellulose) and /or inorganic crystals from drywall/joint compound. There is quite an ecology in the bioslime that eventually forms on an AC coil or in a condensate pan. First bacteria flourish, then yeast. (This is the " sweat-sock " associated with the initial operation of the blower.) Conditions are often too wet in the pan for mold, but mold may infiltrate the damp dust layer on a soiled AC coil. (I have photos of this in " The Mold Survival Guide. " ) The most common species on coils is Cladosporium cladosporiodes. There are often significant patches of Penicillium and/or Aspergillus species in the fiberglass lining material if it has been damp from pan overflow or splash from the coil. The only way to avoid all this mess is to install media filters (MERV 6 or better, MERV 12) from day one of system operation and NEVER operate the system during very dusty work. May May Indoor Air Investigations LLC wrote: > > There are 4 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Substrates > From: " moldincolo " <jonathan1@...> > 2. Re: All cancer cells are \ " fermented\ " cells > From: " gordon bobson " <gordonb1964@...> > 3. Tsunami > From: " moldincolo " <jonathan1@...> > 4. Re: Tsunami > From: nomoreschoolmold@... > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:01:15 -0000 > From: " moldincolo " <jonathan1@...> > Subject: Substrates > > I have a question. > > There is a lot of evidence of mold infestations in building cooling systems like air conditioners and swamp coolers. However, there is also a fair > amount of speculation that the substrate growth material, such as drywall and plywood, is contributory to degree of toxicicity in secondary > metabolites. In the case of HVAC system contamination only, (such as the recent Governors mansion in South Carolina). if it is assumed that the > orginating spores come from the ambient environment, then this raises two possibilities. > > A: If the dust in a HVAC system is largely comprised of material from the interior of the structure, such as bleached paper, carpet fibers, plywood/ > glue particles, or even human oils, then this would indicate that the substrate material is the offending agent in promoting toxicity. > > B: If the dust in the HVAC is primarily from the outside of the building, then this would suggest that the concentration of exposure is the primary > factor in causing mycotoxicity in susceptable individuals. > > As I have found organic mulch piles that caused my reactivity, and others here have made similar references, I am leaning towards the second > scenario. Does anyone have any information on the composition of dusts in air handling systems that have been taken from contaminated > environments? > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:45:21 -0000 > From: " gordon bobson " <gordonb1964@...> > Subject: Re: All cancer cells are \ " fermented\ " cells > > Has anyone looked into ALKALINE diets? It is moreso about finding a > BALANCE between acidity & alkalinity, really. > > This not only works to detox the body, but gives molds, fungi, yeast, > cancer cells, a rather hostile environment in which to live - > therefore, they do not. It is also a safe, effective way to lose > weight (20lbs in 6 weeks - which I beleive was the result of cutting > out sugar & fruit juice). It corrolates to what I have read in " The > Yeast Connection " . > > Check it out, you may find the info below useful. I found the > information in another group that I belong to, I tried it and > although I was skeptical at first, seeing is beleiving! > > GordonB > > PDF chart of Alkaline vs. Acidic foods: > > http://www.betterbones.com/alkaline/articles/chart%20p12.pdf > > --------------------------- > > Info on the importance of alkaline balance in our bodies: > > http://www.betterbones.com/alkaline/index.htm > > (The site is about osteoporosis, but there is a lot of good info – > surf around to their articles page: > http://www.betterbones.com/alkaline/abstracts.htm ) > > ---------------------------- > > Good deals on PH strips & KETO strips as well: > > http://www.ph-ion.com > > I got the 3 pack for 19.95 - 80 strips in each bottle, very good > deal, and easy to use) > > ----------------------------- > > > > > Hi KC, > > > This is not referring to the fermented cells thing, but do want > to ask > > > you something. > > > My nephew, Jim, lives in Tucson, AZ--we spoke recently and I > mentioned > > > your knowledge of molds--to which he asked if I would check on > something > > > for him. Here is Jim's question: Do you know the composite of > molds by > > > region of the country---in other words, are the molds the same > composite > > > in his area as they are here in the south, etc.? > > > Will wait for your answer...hope things are going well for you. > > > Take care, > > > Ruth > > > PS: we saw the oncologist today---he said that he conferred with > other > > > doctors he knows and that they will not be doing any chemo on > Bryce > > > now---maybe later if tumors begin to show up again. he will have > a chest > > > CT scan done when we see the sarcoma specialist on Tuesday the > 13th. So > > > that is a bit of a relief for now. > > > We asked about using natural therapies, and he said that he does > not > > > promote it, but neither does he discount it as a help for the > cancer. > > > Bryce is getting fresh carrot juice mixed with apple and greens > at least > > > 4 times a day now, plus lots of grains, fresh fruit and > vegetables and > > > filtered water. He sees a Naturapath doc (Kight) in Winder every > 2 weeks > > > also. > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > > > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > > > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 20:41:44 -0000 > From: " moldincolo " <jonathan1@...> > Subject: Tsunami > > This group owes thanks to rainbowcarebearstitch10 for ongoing research and the posting of relevant studies that clearly illustrate the effects and > implications of mold exposure.. > > While the current defensive position of the medical community, insurance industry and public administrators is to claim a lack of evidence of mycotic > disease, the flood of information is becoming undeniable. > > America is not, and never has been, a nation that needs to be spoon fed information in order to make up it's mind about anything. This country > handled World War II, and countless other crises -- the truth about pathogenic molds needs to come to a national awareness, and will be dealt with > however it needs to be. > > > > " Truth is the ultimate power. When the truth comes around, all the lies have to run and hide " - Ice Cube > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 00:34:41 EDT > From: nomoreschoolmold@... > Subject: Re: Tsunami > > Some additional links - some from this site is incorporated into the links > below - many thanks to you all, who are helping keep a watch on the political > world of mold untruths > > http://www.schoolmoldhelp.org/research.html > > http://www.schoolmoldhelp.org/links.html > > http://www.schoolmoldhelp.org/law.html > > http://www.schoolmoldhelp.org/index.html > > So many of the poorly designed/constructed buildings are making us sick - at > home, at the office, at school - whether our government wishes to admit it or > not. We must insist that they do admit it and that our physicians recognize > these building related illnesses. > > As a teacher sickened in two buildings, after working in many leaky and old > schools, I can tell you that it is more common than not to have unabated leaks > and crumbling buildings in your public schools. Parents, please inspect your > local schools and force them to be fixed, before these become a cause of your > child's lifelong illness! > > Thanks to all of you on this dynamic site - I learn so much from you all! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2004 Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 Jeff -- This is very interesting, and not what I expected. But it does present some additional questions. I said that if the dusts were primarily from the interior of the building, then this might suggest that the substrate material is to blame for any " enhanced " toxicity, if this is even a potential. I'm assuming the mold spores representing the specie present come from the outdoor, ambient envrionment, where they are generally not a problem. What is your opinion here? That overall exposure levels are the primary cause of mycotoxicity? This has precedent in agricultural exposures, like grain elevators. However, there has been some discussion of pathogenic specie of molds requiring certain substrates in oder to produce toxic metabolites. Notable that you found human skin scales, makes you wonder if there is a keying relative to that particular food source. Thanks! In , Jeff May <Jeff@j...> wrote: > , > > I have taken hundreds of samples of dust from air conditioning systems. The particulates are identical to the house dust: mostly skin scales and fibers from clothing, carpets, pet dander (if animals have ever been present), etc. If blowers are operating with open windows, there would also be pollen and other plant materials. NIn general, nearly all the biodegradable material is from WITHIN the home. In homes where the HVAC system was (foolishly) operating during construction or renovation (particularly floor sanding) much of the dust consists of sawdust (cellulose) and /or inorganic crystals from drywall/joint compound. > > There is quite an ecology in the bioslime that eventually forms on an AC coil or in a condensate pan. First bacteria flourish, then yeast. (This is the " sweat-sock " associated with the initial operation of the blower.) Conditions are often too wet in the pan for mold, but mold may infiltrate the damp dust layer on a soiled AC coil. (I have photos of this in " The Mold Survival Guide. " ) > > The most common species on coils is Cladosporium cladosporiodes. There are often significant patches of Penicillium and/or Aspergillus species in the fiberglass lining material if it has been damp from pan overflow or splash from the coil. > > The only way to avoid all this mess is to install media filters (MERV 6 or better, MERV 12) from day one of system operation and NEVER operate the system during very dusty work. > > May > May Indoor Air Investigations LLC > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2004 Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 Jeff -- This is very interesting, and not what I expected. But it does present some additional questions. I said that if the dusts were primarily from the interior of the building, then this might suggest that the substrate material is to blame for any " enhanced " toxicity, if this is even a potential. I'm assuming the mold spores representing the specie present come from the outdoor, ambient envrionment, where they are generally not a problem. What is your opinion here? That overall exposure levels are the primary cause of mycotoxicity? This has precedent in agricultural exposures, like grain elevators. However, there has been some discussion of pathogenic specie of molds requiring certain substrates in oder to produce toxic metabolites. Notable that you found human skin scales, makes you wonder if there is a keying relative to that particular food source. Thanks! In , Jeff May <Jeff@j...> wrote: > , > > I have taken hundreds of samples of dust from air conditioning systems. The particulates are identical to the house dust: mostly skin scales and fibers from clothing, carpets, pet dander (if animals have ever been present), etc. If blowers are operating with open windows, there would also be pollen and other plant materials. NIn general, nearly all the biodegradable material is from WITHIN the home. In homes where the HVAC system was (foolishly) operating during construction or renovation (particularly floor sanding) much of the dust consists of sawdust (cellulose) and /or inorganic crystals from drywall/joint compound. > > There is quite an ecology in the bioslime that eventually forms on an AC coil or in a condensate pan. First bacteria flourish, then yeast. (This is the " sweat-sock " associated with the initial operation of the blower.) Conditions are often too wet in the pan for mold, but mold may infiltrate the damp dust layer on a soiled AC coil. (I have photos of this in " The Mold Survival Guide. " ) > > The most common species on coils is Cladosporium cladosporiodes. There are often significant patches of Penicillium and/or Aspergillus species in the fiberglass lining material if it has been damp from pan overflow or splash from the coil. > > The only way to avoid all this mess is to install media filters (MERV 6 or better, MERV 12) from day one of system operation and NEVER operate the system during very dusty work. > > May > May Indoor Air Investigations LLC > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 In a message dated 3/16/05 7:55:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, writes: > Would it then be best to freeze the flax seeds and then grind them just > before eating? > > > .. ..>>> The flaxseed before grinding are shelf stable and need neither refrigeration nor freezing. Just store where you store your other grains like brown rice, millet and quinoa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 , A lot of doctors refer to damage to the cilia in the cochlea as " nerve damage " even though it has nothing to do with the auditory nerve. Is your doctor referring to " nerve damage " or actual damage to the auditory nerve? Damage to the auditory nerve would interfere in a major way with a CI. Beth Now the Lord is that Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is Liberty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 " Nerve damage " can be a major misnomer because it incorrectly implies that damage to the auditory nerve and not the cilia in the cochlea is responsible for much of hearing loss. I'm not sure, but I think the pretesting before CI surgery determines whether the auditory nerve is capable of carrying messages to the brain. Would someone with credentials please verify - or not? Harriet Quiet Corner SHHH On Aug 19, 2005, at 11:54 AM, Beth Ward wrote: > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Harriet and all, While I don't have any credentials to verify this, my family's experience with sensorineural hearing loss/or nerve deafness as it's often been called,was this: For the family members who had some residual hearing prior to being implanted (younger sister and I).. we didn't need any testing to see if the auditory nerve was working, obviously if we were hearing some, it was working. My mother and older sister, however, had to have what is called a Prom Stim.. promontory stimulation test where a needle was inserted in the ear to see if it responds to sound.. Not sure exactly how it is done, but this is how they check the auditory nerve with those who have no hearing whatsoever. Hope this helps Hugs, Silly MI In , Harriet <arnold.johnson@s...> wrote: > " Nerve damage " can be a major misnomer because it incorrectly implies > that damage to the auditory nerve and not the cilia in the cochlea is > responsible for much of hearing loss. I'm not sure, but I think the > pretesting before CI surgery determines whether the auditory nerve is > capable of carrying messages to the brain. Would someone with > credentials please verify - or not? > > Harriet > Quiet Corner SHHH > On Aug 19, 2005, at 11:54 AM, Beth Ward wrote: > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 For years, researchers are still debating the nerve damages versus cilia hair loss due to various types of hearing loss related diseases such as diabetes, German Measles, autoimmune disorder . Finally , recent research study has found that the " better ear " or remaining cillia does not make any difference for " bad ear " on CI. They concluded that there is no such thing as auditory nerve damages except cochlea ossifications(sp) etc. I am so relieved that I dont seem to have any " nerve damage " since birth. The longer we dont have a CI since birth, the harder for me to understand speech. Rick Freeman Prelingual Former CID student age 42. " Nerve damage " can be a major misnomer because it incorrectly implies > that damage to the auditory nerve and not the cilia in the cochlea is > responsible for much of hearing loss. I'm not sure, but I think the > pretesting before CI surgery determines whether the auditory nerve is > capable of carrying messages to the brain. Would someone with > credentials please verify - or not? > > Harriet > Quiet Corner SHHH > On Aug 19, 2005, at 11:54 AM, Beth Ward wrote: > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 For years, researchers are still debating the nerve damages versus cilia hair loss due to various types of hearing loss related diseases such as diabetes, German Measles, autoimmune disorder . Finally , recent research study has found that the " better ear " or remaining cillia does not make any difference for " bad ear " on CI. They concluded that there is no such thing as auditory nerve damages except cochlea ossifications(sp) etc. I am so relieved that I dont seem to have any " nerve damage " since birth. The longer we dont have a CI since birth, the harder for me to understand speech. Rick Freeman Prelingual Former CID student age 42. " Nerve damage " can be a major misnomer because it incorrectly implies > that damage to the auditory nerve and not the cilia in the cochlea is > responsible for much of hearing loss. I'm not sure, but I think the > pretesting before CI surgery determines whether the auditory nerve is > capable of carrying messages to the brain. Would someone with > credentials please verify - or not? > > Harriet > Quiet Corner SHHH > On Aug 19, 2005, at 11:54 AM, Beth Ward wrote: > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Thanks, , wondered about that needle! On Aug 19, 2005, at 1:10 PM, wrote: > Harriet and all, > While I don't have any credentials to verify this, my family's > experience with sensorineural hearing loss/or nerve deafness as it's > often been called,was this: > For the family members who had some residual hearing prior to being > implanted (younger sister and I).. we didn't need any testing to see > if the auditory nerve was working, obviously if we were hearing some, > it was working. > My mother and older sister, however, had to have what is called a Prom > Stim.. promontory stimulation test where a needle was inserted in the > ear to see if it responds to sound.. Not sure exactly how it is done, > but this is how they check the auditory nerve with those who have no > hearing whatsoever. > > Hope this helps > Hugs, > Silly MI > > > > In , Harriet <arnold.johnson@s...> wrote: >> " Nerve damage " can be a major misnomer because it incorrectly > implies >> that damage to the auditory nerve and not the cilia in the cochlea > is >> responsible for much of hearing loss. I'm not sure, but I think the >> pretesting before CI surgery determines whether the auditory nerve > is >> capable of carrying messages to the brain. Would someone with >> credentials please verify - or not? >> >> Harriet >> Quiet Corner SHHH >> On Aug 19, 2005, at 11:54 AM, Beth Ward wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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