Re: All cancer cells are \fermented\ cells

[Guest guest]

God bless Doug Haney for his research and brilliance on this topic.

He's right on. The medical establishment refuses to see the forest for

the trees because it would be financially devastating to their " bottom

line " .

Barth

TOXIC MOLD SURVEY: www.presenting.net/sbs/sbssurvey.html

---

t> Author: Doug Haney (---.rev.o1.com)

t> Date:   07-04-04 03:44

t> RESPONSE JEFFERY L. ALITZ, ESQ

t> By R. Haney, EnviroHealth Research Consulting, Inc.

t> Many people are aware that I would avidly promote bypassing

t> litigation in mold exposure personal injury (toxic tort) cases, if

t> possible, all together. It is a profoundly nasty process that further

t> victimizes alledged victims. However, until the alledged victims of

t> such exposures begin to find fiscal, emotional, and medical treatment

t> relief from continuously \ " doubting\ " personnel in the medical and

t> governmental health professions, litigation seems a viable solution

t> to the many personal losses suffered.

t> There are literally thousands of medical documents all over the

t> Internet and even in the medical literature that identify the methods

t> micro fungi (molds and yeasts) use to decompose dead and decaying

t> materials in our environment. Yet, when when these same microbes are

t> placed into a human body and clearly demonstrate clear and precise

t> adversity directly related to their suppression of the human immune

t> system, the medical field and scientists thereof, recklessly proclaim

t> that these pesky little creatures of nature cause little more than

t> the sniffs or asthma- \ " respiratory- not serious health problems\ "

t> (National Academy of Sciences, 2004, funded no-less by the Centers

t> for Disease Control)!

t> We need far more study they declare! And, even though animals have

t> been dying for decades from such exposures, farmers and folks in

t> other agricultural industries have been medically stricken from

t> exposures, smokers and drinkers have demonstrated \ " extremely

t> similar\ " neurological and pathological effects as their indoor-

t> exposed counterparts, hospital patients pathogenically-exposed as

t> \ " nosocomial\ " (hospital related/caused) in highly-controlled and

t> supposedly \ " sterile\ " environments demonstrate similar health effects

t> and even death as patients with similar health profiles are sent home

t> into their controlled environments, clever defense lawyers boastfully

t> submit that \ " there is not substantial \'epidemiological data\' or

t> \ " American peer-reviewed documentation\ " to implicate micro fungi as

t> influential in disease causation in an office or private home

t> environment.

t> After all that has been written just in the last century on the

t> subject of such exposures, one would have to be completely ignorant

t> of the fact (and many certainly are), that micro fungi (merely being

t> the microbial \ " decomposers\ " that they are), include humans as their

t> prey. To test this theory, the next time you observe something die

t> (heaven forbid), get out your microscope and observe for yourself

t> which \ " bugs\ " arrive on the job first! When you observe the \ " rot\ "

t> that takes place in cancer, what do you suppose that is? Hint! For

t> all medical students of pathology 101. It is \ " decomposers\ " at work-

t> especially the most-studied \ " Aspergillus\ " species-- check it out!

t> When the human body suffers \ " alcohol poisoning,\ " what do you

t> suppose metabolically that \ " mycotoxin\ " - \ " alcohol\ " produced

t> mainly by yeasts (in conjunction with chemical warfare [endotoxins,

t> exotoxins, and mycotoxins] produced by competing bacteria, yeasts,

t> and molds at war with one another) is doing to your body? Well, as

t> proven by the \ " death certificate\ " in many cases annually, the

t> alcohol is attempting to break down the metabolic structure of cells

t> by robbing the human cell of precious oxygen, and genetically

t> mutating protective properties of the cell. Did you know that \ " all\ "

t> cancer cells are \ " fermented\ " cells. Fermentation means that oxygen

t> becomes depleted and the cell begins starving for critical \ " sugar\ "

t> fuel which cannot be sustained. Eventually the cell gives way to

t> DNA/RNA mutative exchanges that can no longer be controlled

t> genetically and uncontrolled proliferation (unbalanced cell growth).

t> When a human dies, what happens in the undertaker\'s lab? He or she

t> embalms the body before it can be destroyed by \ " decomposing\ " fungi

t> and bacteria. Therefore, it is preserved for its final showing for

t> just a few days until the chemicals involved too, begin to weaken and

t> eventually break down (just as bleach products do) and become fungal

t> nutrients (food sources). Then again, try to tell me that the medical

t> establishment did not begin to understand micro fungi and the toxic

t> powers of their mycotoxins until just recent.

t> My work as a professional consult and expert witness is not to

t> criticize anyone\'s knowledge base of background of experience. My

t> job is to explain how and why microbes do their natural job as

t> accurately as possible. This is why it is hard for me to understand

t> how the medical field and many governmental entities simply cannot

t> see the \ " forest behind the trees!\ " It simply boggles my mind that

t> we would allow fellow humans to suffer and die from something as

t> simple as a \ " brilliant flash of the obvious!\ " In a court of law

t> everything is based on evidence broken down into its simplist

t> components. It is my responsibility to demonstrate this clearly as to

t> micro fungi, human intake of molds, and why the two eventually lead

t> to health problems and death. After 18 years in following the studes

t> of the \ " new frontier of molecular science\ " (i.e., neurology,

t> genetics, and immunology), and other sciences of probiotics,

t> environment, and cellular evolution, I believe that the facts are

t> certainly there for the taking.

t> Recently, I was infomed by a well-respected medical doctor and highly

t> respected personal friend, that my 60-page Senior Thesis as written

t> and approved (and given a straight \ " A\ " ) at Chapman University,

t> titled \ " Microbial Influence of Alcoholism: A Qualitative Study\ "

t> (May 2004) should not be presented right away until micro fungi

t> research begins to support it more directly. I was perplexed, because

t> I greatly value this person\'s opinion. However, what this doctor

t> fails to realize, is that the scientific \ " theory\ " behind the thesis

t> \ " hypothesis\ " has literally thousands of years of documentation

t> behind it. It was not based on any guesswork!

t> God Bless you and your continuing good health.

t> Doug Haney,

t> EnviroHealth Research Consulting, Inc.

t> E- doughaney@...

t> FAIR USE NOTICE:

t> This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been

specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material

available in our efforts to advance

t> understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy,

scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair

use' of any such copyrighted material

t> as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with

Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without

profit to those who have expressed a prior

t> interest in receiving the included information for research and educational

purposes. For more information go to:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted

t> material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use',

you must obtain permission from the copyright owner.

t>

[Guest guest]

God bless Doug Haney for his research and brilliance on this topic.

He's right on. The medical establishment refuses to see the forest for

the trees because it would be financially devastating to their " bottom

line " .

Barth

TOXIC MOLD SURVEY: www.presenting.net/sbs/sbssurvey.html

---

t> Author: Doug Haney (---.rev.o1.com)

t> Date:   07-04-04 03:44

t> RESPONSE JEFFERY L. ALITZ, ESQ

t> By R. Haney, EnviroHealth Research Consulting, Inc.

t> Many people are aware that I would avidly promote bypassing

t> litigation in mold exposure personal injury (toxic tort) cases, if

t> possible, all together. It is a profoundly nasty process that further

t> victimizes alledged victims. However, until the alledged victims of

t> such exposures begin to find fiscal, emotional, and medical treatment

t> relief from continuously \ " doubting\ " personnel in the medical and

t> governmental health professions, litigation seems a viable solution

t> to the many personal losses suffered.

t> There are literally thousands of medical documents all over the

t> Internet and even in the medical literature that identify the methods

t> micro fungi (molds and yeasts) use to decompose dead and decaying

t> materials in our environment. Yet, when when these same microbes are

t> placed into a human body and clearly demonstrate clear and precise

t> adversity directly related to their suppression of the human immune

t> system, the medical field and scientists thereof, recklessly proclaim

t> that these pesky little creatures of nature cause little more than

t> the sniffs or asthma- \ " respiratory- not serious health problems\ "

t> (National Academy of Sciences, 2004, funded no-less by the Centers

t> for Disease Control)!

t> We need far more study they declare! And, even though animals have

t> been dying for decades from such exposures, farmers and folks in

t> other agricultural industries have been medically stricken from

t> exposures, smokers and drinkers have demonstrated \ " extremely

t> similar\ " neurological and pathological effects as their indoor-

t> exposed counterparts, hospital patients pathogenically-exposed as

t> \ " nosocomial\ " (hospital related/caused) in highly-controlled and

t> supposedly \ " sterile\ " environments demonstrate similar health effects

t> and even death as patients with similar health profiles are sent home

t> into their controlled environments, clever defense lawyers boastfully

t> submit that \ " there is not substantial \'epidemiological data\' or

t> \ " American peer-reviewed documentation\ " to implicate micro fungi as

t> influential in disease causation in an office or private home

t> environment.

t> After all that has been written just in the last century on the

t> subject of such exposures, one would have to be completely ignorant

t> of the fact (and many certainly are), that micro fungi (merely being

t> the microbial \ " decomposers\ " that they are), include humans as their

t> prey. To test this theory, the next time you observe something die

t> (heaven forbid), get out your microscope and observe for yourself

t> which \ " bugs\ " arrive on the job first! When you observe the \ " rot\ "

t> that takes place in cancer, what do you suppose that is? Hint! For

t> all medical students of pathology 101. It is \ " decomposers\ " at work-

t> especially the most-studied \ " Aspergillus\ " species-- check it out!

t> When the human body suffers \ " alcohol poisoning,\ " what do you

t> suppose metabolically that \ " mycotoxin\ " - \ " alcohol\ " produced

t> mainly by yeasts (in conjunction with chemical warfare [endotoxins,

t> exotoxins, and mycotoxins] produced by competing bacteria, yeasts,

t> and molds at war with one another) is doing to your body? Well, as

t> proven by the \ " death certificate\ " in many cases annually, the

t> alcohol is attempting to break down the metabolic structure of cells

t> by robbing the human cell of precious oxygen, and genetically

t> mutating protective properties of the cell. Did you know that \ " all\ "

t> cancer cells are \ " fermented\ " cells. Fermentation means that oxygen

t> becomes depleted and the cell begins starving for critical \ " sugar\ "

t> fuel which cannot be sustained. Eventually the cell gives way to

t> DNA/RNA mutative exchanges that can no longer be controlled

t> genetically and uncontrolled proliferation (unbalanced cell growth).

t> When a human dies, what happens in the undertaker\'s lab? He or she

t> embalms the body before it can be destroyed by \ " decomposing\ " fungi

t> and bacteria. Therefore, it is preserved for its final showing for

t> just a few days until the chemicals involved too, begin to weaken and

t> eventually break down (just as bleach products do) and become fungal

t> nutrients (food sources). Then again, try to tell me that the medical

t> establishment did not begin to understand micro fungi and the toxic

t> powers of their mycotoxins until just recent.

t> My work as a professional consult and expert witness is not to

t> criticize anyone\'s knowledge base of background of experience. My

t> job is to explain how and why microbes do their natural job as

t> accurately as possible. This is why it is hard for me to understand

t> how the medical field and many governmental entities simply cannot

t> see the \ " forest behind the trees!\ " It simply boggles my mind that

t> we would allow fellow humans to suffer and die from something as

t> simple as a \ " brilliant flash of the obvious!\ " In a court of law

t> everything is based on evidence broken down into its simplist

t> components. It is my responsibility to demonstrate this clearly as to

t> micro fungi, human intake of molds, and why the two eventually lead

t> to health problems and death. After 18 years in following the studes

t> of the \ " new frontier of molecular science\ " (i.e., neurology,

t> genetics, and immunology), and other sciences of probiotics,

t> environment, and cellular evolution, I believe that the facts are

t> certainly there for the taking.

t> Recently, I was infomed by a well-respected medical doctor and highly

t> respected personal friend, that my 60-page Senior Thesis as written

t> and approved (and given a straight \ " A\ " ) at Chapman University,

t> titled \ " Microbial Influence of Alcoholism: A Qualitative Study\ "

t> (May 2004) should not be presented right away until micro fungi

t> research begins to support it more directly. I was perplexed, because

t> I greatly value this person\'s opinion. However, what this doctor

t> fails to realize, is that the scientific \ " theory\ " behind the thesis

t> \ " hypothesis\ " has literally thousands of years of documentation

t> behind it. It was not based on any guesswork!

t> God Bless you and your continuing good health.

t> Doug Haney,

t> EnviroHealth Research Consulting, Inc.

t> E- doughaney@...

t> FAIR USE NOTICE:

t> This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been

specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material

available in our efforts to advance

t> understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy,

scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair

use' of any such copyrighted material

t> as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with

Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without

profit to those who have expressed a prior

t> interest in receiving the included information for research and educational

purposes. For more information go to:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted

t> material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use',

you must obtain permission from the copyright owner.

t>

[Guest guest]

,

Here is another Toxic Mold Survey I have found:

http://www.moldacrossamerica.org/test/mold1.html

GordonB

Alaska

--- In , Patilla DaHun <glypella@p...>

wrote:

> God bless Doug Haney for his research and brilliance on this topic.

> He's right on. The medical establishment refuses to see the forest

for

> the trees because it would be financially devastating to

their " bottom

> line " .

>

> Barth

>

> TOXIC MOLD SURVEY: www.presenting.net/sbs/sbssurvey.html

>

> ---

>

> t> Author: Doug Haney (---.rev.o1.com)

> t> Date:   07-04-04 03:44

>

>

> t> RESPONSE JEFFERY L. ALITZ, ESQ

> t> By R. Haney, EnviroHealth Research Consulting, Inc.

>

>

>

> t> Many people are aware that I would avidly promote bypassing

> t> litigation in mold exposure personal injury (toxic tort) cases,

if

> t> possible, all together. It is a profoundly nasty process that

further

> t> victimizes alledged victims. However, until the alledged victims

of

> t> such exposures begin to find fiscal, emotional, and medical

treatment

> t> relief from continuously \ " doubting\ " personnel in the medical

and

> t> governmental health professions, litigation seems a viable

solution

> t> to the many personal losses suffered.

>

> t> There are literally thousands of medical documents all over the

> t> Internet and even in the medical literature that identify the

methods

> t> micro fungi (molds and yeasts) use to decompose dead and

decaying

> t> materials in our environment. Yet, when when these same microbes

are

> t> placed into a human body and clearly demonstrate clear and

precise

> t> adversity directly related to their suppression of the human

immune

> t> system, the medical field and scientists thereof, recklessly

proclaim

> t> that these pesky little creatures of nature cause little more

than

> t> the sniffs or asthma- \ " respiratory- not serious health

problems\ "

> t> (National Academy of Sciences, 2004, funded no-less by the

Centers

> t> for Disease Control)!

>

> t> We need far more study they declare! And, even though animals

have

> t> been dying for decades from such exposures, farmers and folks in

> t> other agricultural industries have been medically stricken from

> t> exposures, smokers and drinkers have demonstrated \ " extremely

> t> similar\ " neurological and pathological effects as their indoor-

> t> exposed counterparts, hospital patients pathogenically-exposed

as

> t> \ " nosocomial\ " (hospital related/caused) in highly-controlled

and

> t> supposedly \ " sterile\ " environments demonstrate similar health

effects

> t> and even death as patients with similar health profiles are sent

home

> t> into their controlled environments, clever defense lawyers

boastfully

> t> submit that \ " there is not substantial \'epidemiological data\'

or

> t> \ " American peer-reviewed documentation\ " to implicate micro

fungi as

> t> influential in disease causation in an office or private home

> t> environment.

>

> t> After all that has been written just in the last century on the

> t> subject of such exposures, one would have to be completely

ignorant

> t> of the fact (and many certainly are), that micro fungi (merely

being

> t> the microbial \ " decomposers\ " that they are), include humans as

their

> t> prey. To test this theory, the next time you observe something

die

> t> (heaven forbid), get out your microscope and observe for

yourself

> t> which \ " bugs\ " arrive on the job first! When you observe the

\ " rot\ "

> t> that takes place in cancer, what do you suppose that is? Hint!

For

> t> all medical students of pathology 101. It is \ " decomposers\ " at

work-

> t> especially the most-studied \ " Aspergillus\ " species-- check it

out!

> t> When the human body suffers \ " alcohol poisoning,\ " what do you

> t> suppose metabolically that \ " mycotoxin\ " - \ " alcohol\ " produced

> t> mainly by yeasts (in conjunction with chemical warfare

[endotoxins,

> t> exotoxins, and mycotoxins] produced by competing bacteria,

yeasts,

> t> and molds at war with one another) is doing to your body? Well,

as

> t> proven by the \ " death certificate\ " in many cases annually, the

> t> alcohol is attempting to break down the metabolic structure of

cells

> t> by robbing the human cell of precious oxygen, and genetically

> t> mutating protective properties of the cell. Did you know that

\ " all\ "

> t> cancer cells are \ " fermented\ " cells. Fermentation means that

oxygen

> t> becomes depleted and the cell begins starving for critical

\ " sugar\ "

> t> fuel which cannot be sustained. Eventually the cell gives way to

> t> DNA/RNA mutative exchanges that can no longer be controlled

> t> genetically and uncontrolled proliferation (unbalanced cell

growth).

> t> When a human dies, what happens in the undertaker\'s lab? He or

she

> t> embalms the body before it can be destroyed by \ " decomposing\ "

fungi

> t> and bacteria. Therefore, it is preserved for its final showing

for

> t> just a few days until the chemicals involved too, begin to

weaken and

> t> eventually break down (just as bleach products do) and become

fungal

> t> nutrients (food sources). Then again, try to tell me that the

medical

> t> establishment did not begin to understand micro fungi and the

toxic

> t> powers of their mycotoxins until just recent.

>

> t> My work as a professional consult and expert witness is not to

> t> criticize anyone\'s knowledge base of background of experience.

My

> t> job is to explain how and why microbes do their natural job as

> t> accurately as possible. This is why it is hard for me to

understand

> t> how the medical field and many governmental entities simply

cannot

> t> see the \ " forest behind the trees!\ " It simply boggles my mind

that

> t> we would allow fellow humans to suffer and die from something as

> t> simple as a \ " brilliant flash of the obvious!\ " In a court of

law

> t> everything is based on evidence broken down into its simplist

> t> components. It is my responsibility to demonstrate this clearly

as to

> t> micro fungi, human intake of molds, and why the two eventually

lead

> t> to health problems and death. After 18 years in following the

studes

> t> of the \ " new frontier of molecular science\ " (i.e., neurology,

> t> genetics, and immunology), and other sciences of probiotics,

> t> environment, and cellular evolution, I believe that the facts

are

> t> certainly there for the taking.

>

> t> Recently, I was infomed by a well-respected medical doctor and

highly

> t> respected personal friend, that my 60-page Senior Thesis as

written

> t> and approved (and given a straight \ " A\ " ) at Chapman University,

> t> titled \ " Microbial Influence of Alcoholism: A Qualitative

Study\ "

> t> (May 2004) should not be presented right away until micro fungi

> t> research begins to support it more directly. I was perplexed,

because

> t> I greatly value this person\'s opinion. However, what this

doctor

> t> fails to realize, is that the scientific \ " theory\ " behind the

thesis

> t> \ " hypothesis\ " has literally thousands of years of documentation

> t> behind it. It was not based on any guesswork!

>

> t> God Bless you and your continuing good health.

>

> t> Doug Haney,

> t> EnviroHealth Research Consulting, Inc.

> t> E- doughaney@o...

>

>

>

>

>

> t> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>

> t> This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not

always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are

making such material available in our efforts to advance

> t> understanding of environmental, political, human rights,

economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We

believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material

> t> as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In

accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this

site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior

> t> interest in receiving the included information for research and

educational purposes. For more information go to:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use

copyrighted

> t> material from this site for purposes of your own that go

beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright

owner.

>

>

> t>

[Guest guest]

,

Here is another Toxic Mold Survey I have found:

http://www.moldacrossamerica.org/test/mold1.html

GordonB

Alaska

--- In , Patilla DaHun <glypella@p...>

wrote:

> God bless Doug Haney for his research and brilliance on this topic.

> He's right on. The medical establishment refuses to see the forest

for

> the trees because it would be financially devastating to

their " bottom

> line " .

>

> Barth

>

> TOXIC MOLD SURVEY: www.presenting.net/sbs/sbssurvey.html

>

> ---

>

> t> Author: Doug Haney (---.rev.o1.com)

> t> Date:   07-04-04 03:44

>

>

> t> RESPONSE JEFFERY L. ALITZ, ESQ

> t> By R. Haney, EnviroHealth Research Consulting, Inc.

>

>

>

> t> Many people are aware that I would avidly promote bypassing

> t> litigation in mold exposure personal injury (toxic tort) cases,

if

> t> possible, all together. It is a profoundly nasty process that

further

> t> victimizes alledged victims. However, until the alledged victims

of

> t> such exposures begin to find fiscal, emotional, and medical

treatment

> t> relief from continuously \ " doubting\ " personnel in the medical

and

> t> governmental health professions, litigation seems a viable

solution

> t> to the many personal losses suffered.

>

> t> There are literally thousands of medical documents all over the

> t> Internet and even in the medical literature that identify the

methods

> t> micro fungi (molds and yeasts) use to decompose dead and

decaying

> t> materials in our environment. Yet, when when these same microbes

are

> t> placed into a human body and clearly demonstrate clear and

precise

> t> adversity directly related to their suppression of the human

immune

> t> system, the medical field and scientists thereof, recklessly

proclaim

> t> that these pesky little creatures of nature cause little more

than

> t> the sniffs or asthma- \ " respiratory- not serious health

problems\ "

> t> (National Academy of Sciences, 2004, funded no-less by the

Centers

> t> for Disease Control)!

>

> t> We need far more study they declare! And, even though animals

have

> t> been dying for decades from such exposures, farmers and folks in

> t> other agricultural industries have been medically stricken from

> t> exposures, smokers and drinkers have demonstrated \ " extremely

> t> similar\ " neurological and pathological effects as their indoor-

> t> exposed counterparts, hospital patients pathogenically-exposed

as

> t> \ " nosocomial\ " (hospital related/caused) in highly-controlled

and

> t> supposedly \ " sterile\ " environments demonstrate similar health

effects

> t> and even death as patients with similar health profiles are sent

home

> t> into their controlled environments, clever defense lawyers

boastfully

> t> submit that \ " there is not substantial \'epidemiological data\'

or

> t> \ " American peer-reviewed documentation\ " to implicate micro

fungi as

> t> influential in disease causation in an office or private home

> t> environment.

>

> t> After all that has been written just in the last century on the

> t> subject of such exposures, one would have to be completely

ignorant

> t> of the fact (and many certainly are), that micro fungi (merely

being

> t> the microbial \ " decomposers\ " that they are), include humans as

their

> t> prey. To test this theory, the next time you observe something

die

> t> (heaven forbid), get out your microscope and observe for

yourself

> t> which \ " bugs\ " arrive on the job first! When you observe the

\ " rot\ "

> t> that takes place in cancer, what do you suppose that is? Hint!

For

> t> all medical students of pathology 101. It is \ " decomposers\ " at

work-

> t> especially the most-studied \ " Aspergillus\ " species-- check it

out!

> t> When the human body suffers \ " alcohol poisoning,\ " what do you

> t> suppose metabolically that \ " mycotoxin\ " - \ " alcohol\ " produced

> t> mainly by yeasts (in conjunction with chemical warfare

[endotoxins,

> t> exotoxins, and mycotoxins] produced by competing bacteria,

yeasts,

> t> and molds at war with one another) is doing to your body? Well,

as

> t> proven by the \ " death certificate\ " in many cases annually, the

> t> alcohol is attempting to break down the metabolic structure of

cells

> t> by robbing the human cell of precious oxygen, and genetically

> t> mutating protective properties of the cell. Did you know that

\ " all\ "

> t> cancer cells are \ " fermented\ " cells. Fermentation means that

oxygen

> t> becomes depleted and the cell begins starving for critical

\ " sugar\ "

> t> fuel which cannot be sustained. Eventually the cell gives way to

> t> DNA/RNA mutative exchanges that can no longer be controlled

> t> genetically and uncontrolled proliferation (unbalanced cell

growth).

> t> When a human dies, what happens in the undertaker\'s lab? He or

she

> t> embalms the body before it can be destroyed by \ " decomposing\ "

fungi

> t> and bacteria. Therefore, it is preserved for its final showing

for

> t> just a few days until the chemicals involved too, begin to

weaken and

> t> eventually break down (just as bleach products do) and become

fungal

> t> nutrients (food sources). Then again, try to tell me that the

medical

> t> establishment did not begin to understand micro fungi and the

toxic

> t> powers of their mycotoxins until just recent.

>

> t> My work as a professional consult and expert witness is not to

> t> criticize anyone\'s knowledge base of background of experience.

My

> t> job is to explain how and why microbes do their natural job as

> t> accurately as possible. This is why it is hard for me to

understand

> t> how the medical field and many governmental entities simply

cannot

> t> see the \ " forest behind the trees!\ " It simply boggles my mind

that

> t> we would allow fellow humans to suffer and die from something as

> t> simple as a \ " brilliant flash of the obvious!\ " In a court of

law

> t> everything is based on evidence broken down into its simplist

> t> components. It is my responsibility to demonstrate this clearly

as to

> t> micro fungi, human intake of molds, and why the two eventually

lead

> t> to health problems and death. After 18 years in following the

studes

> t> of the \ " new frontier of molecular science\ " (i.e., neurology,

> t> genetics, and immunology), and other sciences of probiotics,

> t> environment, and cellular evolution, I believe that the facts

are

> t> certainly there for the taking.

>

> t> Recently, I was infomed by a well-respected medical doctor and

highly

> t> respected personal friend, that my 60-page Senior Thesis as

written

> t> and approved (and given a straight \ " A\ " ) at Chapman University,

> t> titled \ " Microbial Influence of Alcoholism: A Qualitative

Study\ "

> t> (May 2004) should not be presented right away until micro fungi

> t> research begins to support it more directly. I was perplexed,

because

> t> I greatly value this person\'s opinion. However, what this

doctor

> t> fails to realize, is that the scientific \ " theory\ " behind the

thesis

> t> \ " hypothesis\ " has literally thousands of years of documentation

> t> behind it. It was not based on any guesswork!

>

> t> God Bless you and your continuing good health.

>

> t> Doug Haney,

> t> EnviroHealth Research Consulting, Inc.

> t> E- doughaney@o...

>

>

>

>

>

> t> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>

> t> This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not

always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are

making such material available in our efforts to advance

> t> understanding of environmental, political, human rights,

economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We

believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material

> t> as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In

accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this

site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior

> t> interest in receiving the included information for research and

educational purposes. For more information go to:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use

copyrighted

> t> material from this site for purposes of your own that go

beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright

owner.

>

>

> t>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Gordon. It looks like a more comprehensive one. I hope to be

able to take the time to redo mine. The graphic instant results became

corrupted when I switched servers.

Barth

TOXIC MOLD SURVEY: www.presenting.net/sbs/sbssurvey.html

---

gb> ,

gb> Here is another Toxic Mold Survey I have found:

gb> http://www.moldacrossamerica.org/test/mold1.html

gb> GordonB

gb> Alaska

gb>

>> God bless Doug Haney for his research and brilliance on this topic.

>> He's right on. The medical establishment refuses to see the forest

gb> for

>> the trees because it would be financially devastating to

gb> their " bottom

>> line " .

>>

>> Barth

>>

>> TOXIC MOLD SURVEY: www.presenting.net/sbs/sbssurvey.html

>>

>> ---

>>

>> t> Author: Doug Haney (---.rev.o1.com)

>> t> Date:   07-04-04 03:44

>>

>>

>> t> RESPONSE JEFFERY L. ALITZ, ESQ

>> t> By R. Haney, EnviroHealth Research   Consulting, Inc.

>>

>>

>>

>> t> Many people are aware that I would avidly promote bypassing

>> t> litigation in mold exposure personal injury (toxic tort) cases,

gb> if

>> t> possible, all together. It is a profoundly nasty process that

gb> further

>> t> victimizes alledged victims. However, until the alledged victims

gb> of

>> t> such exposures begin to find fiscal, emotional, and medical

gb> treatment

>> t> relief from continuously \ " doubting\ " personnel in the medical

gb> and

>> t> governmental health professions, litigation seems a viable

gb> solution

>> t> to the many personal losses suffered.

>>

>> t> There are literally thousands of medical documents all over the

>> t> Internet and even in the medical literature that identify the

gb> methods

>> t> micro fungi (molds and yeasts) use to decompose dead and

gb> decaying

>> t> materials in our environment. Yet, when when these same microbes

gb> are

>> t> placed into a human body and clearly demonstrate clear and

gb> precise

>> t> adversity directly related to their suppression of the human

gb> immune

>> t> system, the medical field and scientists thereof, recklessly

gb> proclaim

>> t> that these pesky little creatures of nature cause little more

gb> than

>> t> the sniffs or asthma- \ " respiratory- not serious health

gb> problems\ "

>> t> (National Academy of Sciences, 2004, funded no-less by the

gb> Centers

>> t> for Disease Control)!

>>

>> t> We need far more study they declare! And, even though animals

gb> have

>> t> been dying for decades from such exposures, farmers and folks in

>> t> other agricultural industries have been medically stricken from

>> t> exposures, smokers and drinkers have demonstrated \ " extremely

>> t> similar\ " neurological and pathological effects as their indoor-

>> t> exposed counterparts, hospital patients pathogenically-exposed

gb> as

>> t> \ " nosocomial\ " (hospital related/caused) in highly-controlled

gb> and

>> t> supposedly \ " sterile\ " environments demonstrate similar health

gb> effects

>> t> and even death as patients with similar health profiles are sent

gb> home

>> t> into their controlled environments, clever defense lawyers

gb> boastfully

>> t> submit that \ " there is not substantial \'epidemiological data\'

gb> or

>> t> \ " American peer-reviewed documentation\ " to implicate micro

gb> fungi as

>> t> influential in disease causation in an office or private home

>> t> environment.

>>

>> t> After all that has been written just in the last century on the

>> t> subject of such exposures, one would have to be completely

gb> ignorant

>> t> of the fact (and many certainly are), that micro fungi (merely

gb> being

>> t> the microbial \ " decomposers\ " that they are), include humans as

gb> their

>> t> prey. To test this theory, the next time you observe something

gb> die

>> t> (heaven forbid), get out your microscope and observe for

gb> yourself

>> t> which \ " bugs\ " arrive on the job first! When you observe the

gb> \ " rot\ "

>> t> that takes place in cancer, what do you suppose that is? Hint!

gb> For

>> t> all medical students of pathology 101. It is \ " decomposers\ " at

gb> work-

>> t> especially the most-studied \ " Aspergillus\ " species-- check it

gb> out!

>> t> When the human body suffers \ " alcohol poisoning,\ " what do you

>> t> suppose metabolically that \ " mycotoxin\ " - \ " alcohol\ " produced

>> t> mainly by yeasts (in conjunction with chemical warfare

gb> [endotoxins,

>> t> exotoxins, and mycotoxins] produced by competing bacteria,

gb> yeasts,

>> t> and molds at war with one another) is doing to your body? Well,

gb> as

>> t> proven by the \ " death certificate\ " in many cases annually, the

>> t> alcohol is attempting to break down the metabolic structure of

gb> cells

>> t> by robbing the human cell of precious oxygen, and genetically

>> t> mutating protective properties of the cell. Did you know that

gb> \ " all\ "

>> t> cancer cells are \ " fermented\ " cells. Fermentation means that

gb> oxygen

>> t> becomes depleted and the cell begins starving for critical

gb> \ " sugar\ "

>> t> fuel which cannot be sustained. Eventually the cell gives way to

>> t> DNA/RNA mutative exchanges that can no longer be controlled

>> t> genetically and uncontrolled proliferation (unbalanced cell

gb> growth).

>> t> When a human dies, what happens in the undertaker\'s lab? He or

gb> she

>> t> embalms the body before it can be destroyed by \ " decomposing\ "

gb> fungi

>> t> and bacteria. Therefore, it is preserved for its final showing

gb> for

>> t> just a few days until the chemicals involved too, begin to

gb> weaken and

>> t> eventually break down (just as bleach products do) and become

gb> fungal

>> t> nutrients (food sources). Then again, try to tell me that the

gb> medical

>> t> establishment did not begin to understand micro fungi and the

gb> toxic

>> t> powers of their mycotoxins until just recent.

>>

>> t> My work as a professional consult and expert witness is not to

>> t> criticize anyone\'s knowledge base of background of experience.

gb> My

>> t> job is to explain how and why microbes do their natural job as

>> t> accurately as possible. This is why it is hard for me to

gb> understand

>> t> how the medical field and many governmental entities simply

gb> cannot

>> t> see the \ " forest behind the trees!\ " It simply boggles my mind

gb> that

>> t> we would allow fellow humans to suffer and die from something as

>> t> simple as a \ " brilliant flash of the obvious!\ " In a court of

gb> law

>> t> everything is based on evidence broken down into its simplist

>> t> components. It is my responsibility to demonstrate this clearly

gb> as to

>> t> micro fungi, human intake of molds, and why the two eventually

gb> lead

>> t> to health problems and death. After 18 years in following the

gb> studes

>> t> of the \ " new frontier of molecular science\ " (i.e., neurology,

>> t> genetics, and immunology), and other sciences of probiotics,

>> t> environment, and cellular evolution, I believe that the facts

gb> are

>> t> certainly there for the taking.

>>

>> t> Recently, I was infomed by a well-respected medical doctor and

gb> highly

>> t> respected personal friend, that my 60-page Senior Thesis as

gb> written

>> t> and approved (and given a straight \ " A\ " ) at Chapman University,

>> t> titled \ " Microbial Influence of Alcoholism: A Qualitative

gb> Study\ "

>> t> (May 2004) should not be presented right away until micro fungi

>> t> research begins to support it more directly. I was perplexed,

gb> because

>> t> I greatly value this person\'s opinion. However, what this

gb> doctor

>> t> fails to realize, is that the scientific \ " theory\ " behind the

gb> thesis

>> t> \ " hypothesis\ " has literally thousands of years of documentation

>> t> behind it. It was not based on any guesswork!

>>

>> t> God Bless you and your continuing good health.

>>

>> t> Doug Haney,

>> t> EnviroHealth Research   Consulting, Inc.

>> t> E- doughaney@o...

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> t> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>> 

>> t> This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not

gb> always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are

gb> making such material available in our efforts to advance

>> t> understanding of environmental, political, human rights,

gb> economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We

gb> believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material

>> t> as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In

gb> accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this

gb> site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior

>> t> interest in receiving the included information for research and

gb> educational purposes. For more information go to:

gb> http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use

gb> copyrighted

>> t> material from this site for purposes of your own that go

gb> beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright

gb> owner.

>>

>>

>> t>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Gordon. It looks like a more comprehensive one. I hope to be

able to take the time to redo mine. The graphic instant results became

corrupted when I switched servers.

Barth

TOXIC MOLD SURVEY: www.presenting.net/sbs/sbssurvey.html

---

gb> ,

gb> Here is another Toxic Mold Survey I have found:

gb> http://www.moldacrossamerica.org/test/mold1.html

gb> GordonB

gb> Alaska

gb>

>> God bless Doug Haney for his research and brilliance on this topic.

>> He's right on. The medical establishment refuses to see the forest

gb> for

>> the trees because it would be financially devastating to

gb> their " bottom

>> line " .

>>

>> Barth

>>

>> TOXIC MOLD SURVEY: www.presenting.net/sbs/sbssurvey.html

>>

>> ---

>>

>> t> Author: Doug Haney (---.rev.o1.com)

>> t> Date:   07-04-04 03:44

>>

>>

>> t> RESPONSE JEFFERY L. ALITZ, ESQ

>> t> By R. Haney, EnviroHealth Research   Consulting, Inc.

>>

>>

>>

>> t> Many people are aware that I would avidly promote bypassing

>> t> litigation in mold exposure personal injury (toxic tort) cases,

gb> if

>> t> possible, all together. It is a profoundly nasty process that

gb> further

>> t> victimizes alledged victims. However, until the alledged victims

gb> of

>> t> such exposures begin to find fiscal, emotional, and medical

gb> treatment

>> t> relief from continuously \ " doubting\ " personnel in the medical

gb> and

>> t> governmental health professions, litigation seems a viable

gb> solution

>> t> to the many personal losses suffered.

>>

>> t> There are literally thousands of medical documents all over the

>> t> Internet and even in the medical literature that identify the

gb> methods

>> t> micro fungi (molds and yeasts) use to decompose dead and

gb> decaying

>> t> materials in our environment. Yet, when when these same microbes

gb> are

>> t> placed into a human body and clearly demonstrate clear and

gb> precise

>> t> adversity directly related to their suppression of the human

gb> immune

>> t> system, the medical field and scientists thereof, recklessly

gb> proclaim

>> t> that these pesky little creatures of nature cause little more

gb> than

>> t> the sniffs or asthma- \ " respiratory- not serious health

gb> problems\ "

>> t> (National Academy of Sciences, 2004, funded no-less by the

gb> Centers

>> t> for Disease Control)!

>>

>> t> We need far more study they declare! And, even though animals

gb> have

>> t> been dying for decades from such exposures, farmers and folks in

>> t> other agricultural industries have been medically stricken from

>> t> exposures, smokers and drinkers have demonstrated \ " extremely

>> t> similar\ " neurological and pathological effects as their indoor-

>> t> exposed counterparts, hospital patients pathogenically-exposed

gb> as

>> t> \ " nosocomial\ " (hospital related/caused) in highly-controlled

gb> and

>> t> supposedly \ " sterile\ " environments demonstrate similar health

gb> effects

>> t> and even death as patients with similar health profiles are sent

gb> home

>> t> into their controlled environments, clever defense lawyers

gb> boastfully

>> t> submit that \ " there is not substantial \'epidemiological data\'

gb> or

>> t> \ " American peer-reviewed documentation\ " to implicate micro

gb> fungi as

>> t> influential in disease causation in an office or private home

>> t> environment.

>>

>> t> After all that has been written just in the last century on the

>> t> subject of such exposures, one would have to be completely

gb> ignorant

>> t> of the fact (and many certainly are), that micro fungi (merely

gb> being

>> t> the microbial \ " decomposers\ " that they are), include humans as

gb> their

>> t> prey. To test this theory, the next time you observe something

gb> die

>> t> (heaven forbid), get out your microscope and observe for

gb> yourself

>> t> which \ " bugs\ " arrive on the job first! When you observe the

gb> \ " rot\ "

>> t> that takes place in cancer, what do you suppose that is? Hint!

gb> For

>> t> all medical students of pathology 101. It is \ " decomposers\ " at

gb> work-

>> t> especially the most-studied \ " Aspergillus\ " species-- check it

gb> out!

>> t> When the human body suffers \ " alcohol poisoning,\ " what do you

>> t> suppose metabolically that \ " mycotoxin\ " - \ " alcohol\ " produced

>> t> mainly by yeasts (in conjunction with chemical warfare

gb> [endotoxins,

>> t> exotoxins, and mycotoxins] produced by competing bacteria,

gb> yeasts,

>> t> and molds at war with one another) is doing to your body? Well,

gb> as

>> t> proven by the \ " death certificate\ " in many cases annually, the

>> t> alcohol is attempting to break down the metabolic structure of

gb> cells

>> t> by robbing the human cell of precious oxygen, and genetically

>> t> mutating protective properties of the cell. Did you know that

gb> \ " all\ "

>> t> cancer cells are \ " fermented\ " cells. Fermentation means that

gb> oxygen

>> t> becomes depleted and the cell begins starving for critical

gb> \ " sugar\ "

>> t> fuel which cannot be sustained. Eventually the cell gives way to

>> t> DNA/RNA mutative exchanges that can no longer be controlled

>> t> genetically and uncontrolled proliferation (unbalanced cell

gb> growth).

>> t> When a human dies, what happens in the undertaker\'s lab? He or

gb> she

>> t> embalms the body before it can be destroyed by \ " decomposing\ "

gb> fungi

>> t> and bacteria. Therefore, it is preserved for its final showing

gb> for

>> t> just a few days until the chemicals involved too, begin to

gb> weaken and

>> t> eventually break down (just as bleach products do) and become

gb> fungal

>> t> nutrients (food sources). Then again, try to tell me that the

gb> medical

>> t> establishment did not begin to understand micro fungi and the

gb> toxic

>> t> powers of their mycotoxins until just recent.

>>

>> t> My work as a professional consult and expert witness is not to

>> t> criticize anyone\'s knowledge base of background of experience.

gb> My

>> t> job is to explain how and why microbes do their natural job as

>> t> accurately as possible. This is why it is hard for me to

gb> understand

>> t> how the medical field and many governmental entities simply

gb> cannot

>> t> see the \ " forest behind the trees!\ " It simply boggles my mind

gb> that

>> t> we would allow fellow humans to suffer and die from something as

>> t> simple as a \ " brilliant flash of the obvious!\ " In a court of

gb> law

>> t> everything is based on evidence broken down into its simplist

>> t> components. It is my responsibility to demonstrate this clearly

gb> as to

>> t> micro fungi, human intake of molds, and why the two eventually

gb> lead

>> t> to health problems and death. After 18 years in following the

gb> studes

>> t> of the \ " new frontier of molecular science\ " (i.e., neurology,

>> t> genetics, and immunology), and other sciences of probiotics,

>> t> environment, and cellular evolution, I believe that the facts

gb> are

>> t> certainly there for the taking.

>>

>> t> Recently, I was infomed by a well-respected medical doctor and

gb> highly

>> t> respected personal friend, that my 60-page Senior Thesis as

gb> written

>> t> and approved (and given a straight \ " A\ " ) at Chapman University,

>> t> titled \ " Microbial Influence of Alcoholism: A Qualitative

gb> Study\ "

>> t> (May 2004) should not be presented right away until micro fungi

>> t> research begins to support it more directly. I was perplexed,

gb> because

>> t> I greatly value this person\'s opinion. However, what this

gb> doctor

>> t> fails to realize, is that the scientific \ " theory\ " behind the

gb> thesis

>> t> \ " hypothesis\ " has literally thousands of years of documentation

>> t> behind it. It was not based on any guesswork!

>>

>> t> God Bless you and your continuing good health.

>>

>> t> Doug Haney,

>> t> EnviroHealth Research   Consulting, Inc.

>> t> E- doughaney@o...

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> t> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>> 

>> t> This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not

gb> always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are

gb> making such material available in our efforts to advance

>> t> understanding of environmental, political, human rights,

gb> economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We

gb> believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material

>> t> as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In

gb> accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this

gb> site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior

>> t> interest in receiving the included information for research and

gb> educational purposes. For more information go to:

gb> http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use

gb> copyrighted

>> t> material from this site for purposes of your own that go

gb> beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright

gb> owner.

>>

>>

>> t>

[Guest guest]

,

You are very welcome, I hope you find some answers there! Glad I

could help!

GordonB

Alaska

--- In , Patilla DaHun <glypella@p...>

wrote:

> Thank you Gordon. It looks like a more comprehensive one. I hope to

be

> able to take the time to redo mine. The graphic instant results

became

> corrupted when I switched servers.

>

> Barth

>

> TOXIC MOLD SURVEY: www.presenting.net/sbs/sbssurvey.html

[Guest guest]

,

You are very welcome, I hope you find some answers there! Glad I

could help!

GordonB

Alaska

--- In , Patilla DaHun <glypella@p...>

wrote:

> Thank you Gordon. It looks like a more comprehensive one. I hope to

be

> able to take the time to redo mine. The graphic instant results

became

> corrupted when I switched servers.

>

> Barth

>

> TOXIC MOLD SURVEY: www.presenting.net/sbs/sbssurvey.html

[Guest guest]

Hi KC,

This is not referring to the fermented cells thing, but do want to ask

you something.

My nephew, Jim, lives in Tucson, AZ--we spoke recently and I mentioned

your knowledge of molds--to which he asked if I would check on something

for him. Here is Jim's question: Do you know the composite of molds by

region of the country---in other words, are the molds the same composite

in his area as they are here in the south, etc.?

Will wait for your answer...hope things are going well for you.

Take care,

Ruth

PS: we saw the oncologist today---he said that he conferred with other

doctors he knows and that they will not be doing any chemo on Bryce

now---maybe later if tumors begin to show up again. he will have a chest

CT scan done when we see the sarcoma specialist on Tuesday the 13th. So

that is a bit of a relief for now.

We asked about using natural therapies, and he said that he does not

promote it, but neither does he discount it as a help for the cancer.

Bryce is getting fresh carrot juice mixed with apple and greens at least

4 times a day now, plus lots of grains, fresh fruit and vegetables and

filtered water. He sees a Naturapath doc (Kight) in Winder every 2 weeks

also.

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[Guest guest]

Hi KC,

This is not referring to the fermented cells thing, but do want to ask

you something.

My nephew, Jim, lives in Tucson, AZ--we spoke recently and I mentioned

your knowledge of molds--to which he asked if I would check on something

for him. Here is Jim's question: Do you know the composite of molds by

region of the country---in other words, are the molds the same composite

in his area as they are here in the south, etc.?

Will wait for your answer...hope things are going well for you.

Take care,

Ruth

PS: we saw the oncologist today---he said that he conferred with other

doctors he knows and that they will not be doing any chemo on Bryce

now---maybe later if tumors begin to show up again. he will have a chest

CT scan done when we see the sarcoma specialist on Tuesday the 13th. So

that is a bit of a relief for now.

We asked about using natural therapies, and he said that he does not

promote it, but neither does he discount it as a help for the cancer.

Bryce is getting fresh carrot juice mixed with apple and greens at least

4 times a day now, plus lots of grains, fresh fruit and vegetables and

filtered water. He sees a Naturapath doc (Kight) in Winder every 2 weeks

also.

________________________________________________________________

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[Guest guest]

Hi Ruth --

I don't mean to presume on KC's response, his depth is far grater than mine

here. I too am interested in the regional composite profiles by specie, as

I experienced some good symptom remissions in travel I took over the winter.

The NAB monitoring sites are somewhat helpful, but not very

specific.

http://www.aaaai.org/nab/index.cfm?p=allergenreport & stationid=5

I did spend some time in Tucson during this time, and found only a few indoor

envoronments that caused me to be reactive. In Colorado, where my

overexposure occured, I seem to find many more. I think that specific specie

exposure is key to reactivity -- I believe that has commented that

he is primarily only reactive to Stachybotris.

The new ls of Environmental Medicine have a number of articles with the

subject of " Mixed Mold Mycotoxicosis " . This suggests that numerous

specie are usually involved in a contaminated environment, but I have seen

information stating that Stachy is known to ultimately overgrow other

specie, resulting in uniform colonization. I'm an Aspergillis/Pennicilium kind

of guy myself, which is unfortunate owing to their ubiquitousness.

Regarding juices, I am beginning to believe that organic foods are going to be

helpful in normalizing my response. The persistence of antibiotics in

the food chain could nudge certain individuals towards intolerance, as it

basically constitutes ongoing low level mycotic exposure. I certainly have

eaten my share of junk food. I've been on Organics for several weeks now,

drinking nothing but RO water, and taking a specific herb protocol

reccommended by another affected person, and am doing very well.

There is lots of dietary information that has good precedence for results here:

http://www.mold-survivor.com/dietcopyright.htm

Best wishes for Bryce.

> Hi KC,

> This is not referring to the fermented cells thing, but do want to ask

> you something.

> My nephew, Jim, lives in Tucson, AZ--we spoke recently and I mentioned

> your knowledge of molds--to which he asked if I would check on something

> for him. Here is Jim's question: Do you know the composite of molds by

> region of the country---in other words, are the molds the same composite

> in his area as they are here in the south, etc.?

> Will wait for your answer...hope things are going well for you.

> Take care,

> Ruth

> PS: we saw the oncologist today---he said that he conferred with other

> doctors he knows and that they will not be doing any chemo on Bryce

> now---maybe later if tumors begin to show up again. he will have a chest

> CT scan done when we see the sarcoma specialist on Tuesday the 13th. So

> that is a bit of a relief for now.

> We asked about using natural therapies, and he said that he does not

> promote it, but neither does he discount it as a help for the cancer.

> Bryce is getting fresh carrot juice mixed with apple and greens at least

> 4 times a day now, plus lots of grains, fresh fruit and vegetables and

> filtered water. He sees a Naturapath doc (Kight) in Winder every 2 weeks

> also.

>

> ________________________________________________________________

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[Guest guest]

Hi Ruth --

I don't mean to presume on KC's response, his depth is far grater than mine

here. I too am interested in the regional composite profiles by specie, as

I experienced some good symptom remissions in travel I took over the winter.

The NAB monitoring sites are somewhat helpful, but not very

specific.

http://www.aaaai.org/nab/index.cfm?p=allergenreport & stationid=5

I did spend some time in Tucson during this time, and found only a few indoor

envoronments that caused me to be reactive. In Colorado, where my

overexposure occured, I seem to find many more. I think that specific specie

exposure is key to reactivity -- I believe that has commented that

he is primarily only reactive to Stachybotris.

The new ls of Environmental Medicine have a number of articles with the

subject of " Mixed Mold Mycotoxicosis " . This suggests that numerous

specie are usually involved in a contaminated environment, but I have seen

information stating that Stachy is known to ultimately overgrow other

specie, resulting in uniform colonization. I'm an Aspergillis/Pennicilium kind

of guy myself, which is unfortunate owing to their ubiquitousness.

Regarding juices, I am beginning to believe that organic foods are going to be

helpful in normalizing my response. The persistence of antibiotics in

the food chain could nudge certain individuals towards intolerance, as it

basically constitutes ongoing low level mycotic exposure. I certainly have

eaten my share of junk food. I've been on Organics for several weeks now,

drinking nothing but RO water, and taking a specific herb protocol

reccommended by another affected person, and am doing very well.

There is lots of dietary information that has good precedence for results here:

http://www.mold-survivor.com/dietcopyright.htm

Best wishes for Bryce.

> Hi KC,

> This is not referring to the fermented cells thing, but do want to ask

> you something.

> My nephew, Jim, lives in Tucson, AZ--we spoke recently and I mentioned

> your knowledge of molds--to which he asked if I would check on something

> for him. Here is Jim's question: Do you know the composite of molds by

> region of the country---in other words, are the molds the same composite

> in his area as they are here in the south, etc.?

> Will wait for your answer...hope things are going well for you.

> Take care,

> Ruth

> PS: we saw the oncologist today---he said that he conferred with other

> doctors he knows and that they will not be doing any chemo on Bryce

> now---maybe later if tumors begin to show up again. he will have a chest

> CT scan done when we see the sarcoma specialist on Tuesday the 13th. So

> that is a bit of a relief for now.

> We asked about using natural therapies, and he said that he does not

> promote it, but neither does he discount it as a help for the cancer.

> Bryce is getting fresh carrot juice mixed with apple and greens at least

> 4 times a day now, plus lots of grains, fresh fruit and vegetables and

> filtered water. He sees a Naturapath doc (Kight) in Winder every 2 weeks

> also.

>

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[Guest guest]

Has anyone looked into ALKALINE diets? It is moreso about finding a

BALANCE between acidity & alkalinity, really.

This not only works to detox the body, but gives molds, fungi, yeast,

cancer cells, a rather hostile environment in which to live -

therefore, they do not. It is also a safe, effective way to lose

weight (20lbs in 6 weeks - which I beleive was the result of cutting

out sugar & fruit juice). It corrolates to what I have read in " The

Yeast Connection " .

Check it out, you may find the info below useful. I found the

information in another group that I belong to, I tried it and

although I was skeptical at first, seeing is beleiving!

GordonB

PDF chart of Alkaline vs. Acidic foods:

http://www.betterbones.com/alkaline/articles/chart%20p12.pdf

---------------------------

Info on the importance of alkaline balance in our bodies:

http://www.betterbones.com/alkaline/index.htm

(The site is about osteoporosis, but there is a lot of good info –

surf around to their articles page:

http://www.betterbones.com/alkaline/abstracts.htm )

----------------------------

Good deals on PH strips & KETO strips as well:

http://www.ph-ion.com

I got the 3 pack for 19.95 - 80 strips in each bottle, very good

deal, and easy to use)

-----------------------------

> > Hi KC,

> > This is not referring to the fermented cells thing, but do want

to ask

> > you something.

> > My nephew, Jim, lives in Tucson, AZ--we spoke recently and I

mentioned

> > your knowledge of molds--to which he asked if I would check on

something

> > for him. Here is Jim's question: Do you know the composite of

molds by

> > region of the country---in other words, are the molds the same

composite

> > in his area as they are here in the south, etc.?

> > Will wait for your answer...hope things are going well for you.

> > Take care,

> > Ruth

> > PS: we saw the oncologist today---he said that he conferred with

other

> > doctors he knows and that they will not be doing any chemo on

Bryce

> > now---maybe later if tumors begin to show up again. he will have

a chest

> > CT scan done when we see the sarcoma specialist on Tuesday the

13th. So

> > that is a bit of a relief for now.

> > We asked about using natural therapies, and he said that he does

not

> > promote it, but neither does he discount it as a help for the

cancer.

> > Bryce is getting fresh carrot juice mixed with apple and greens

at least

> > 4 times a day now, plus lots of grains, fresh fruit and

vegetables and

> > filtered water. He sees a Naturapath doc (Kight) in Winder every

2 weeks

> > also.

> >

> > ________________________________________________________________

> > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!

> > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!

> > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

[Guest guest]

Has anyone looked into ALKALINE diets? It is moreso about finding a

BALANCE between acidity & alkalinity, really.

This not only works to detox the body, but gives molds, fungi, yeast,

cancer cells, a rather hostile environment in which to live -

therefore, they do not. It is also a safe, effective way to lose

weight (20lbs in 6 weeks - which I beleive was the result of cutting

out sugar & fruit juice). It corrolates to what I have read in " The

Yeast Connection " .

Check it out, you may find the info below useful. I found the

information in another group that I belong to, I tried it and

although I was skeptical at first, seeing is beleiving!

GordonB

PDF chart of Alkaline vs. Acidic foods:

http://www.betterbones.com/alkaline/articles/chart%20p12.pdf

---------------------------

Info on the importance of alkaline balance in our bodies:

http://www.betterbones.com/alkaline/index.htm

(The site is about osteoporosis, but there is a lot of good info –

surf around to their articles page:

http://www.betterbones.com/alkaline/abstracts.htm )

----------------------------

Good deals on PH strips & KETO strips as well:

http://www.ph-ion.com

I got the 3 pack for 19.95 - 80 strips in each bottle, very good

deal, and easy to use)

-----------------------------

> > Hi KC,

> > This is not referring to the fermented cells thing, but do want

to ask

> > you something.

> > My nephew, Jim, lives in Tucson, AZ--we spoke recently and I

mentioned

> > your knowledge of molds--to which he asked if I would check on

something

> > for him. Here is Jim's question: Do you know the composite of

molds by

> > region of the country---in other words, are the molds the same

composite

> > in his area as they are here in the south, etc.?

> > Will wait for your answer...hope things are going well for you.

> > Take care,

> > Ruth

> > PS: we saw the oncologist today---he said that he conferred with

other

> > doctors he knows and that they will not be doing any chemo on

Bryce

> > now---maybe later if tumors begin to show up again. he will have

a chest

> > CT scan done when we see the sarcoma specialist on Tuesday the

13th. So

> > that is a bit of a relief for now.

> > We asked about using natural therapies, and he said that he does

not

> > promote it, but neither does he discount it as a help for the

cancer.

> > Bryce is getting fresh carrot juice mixed with apple and greens

at least

> > 4 times a day now, plus lots of grains, fresh fruit and

vegetables and

> > filtered water. He sees a Naturapath doc (Kight) in Winder every

2 weeks

> > also.

> >

> > ________________________________________________________________

> > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!

> > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!

> > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!