Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 The ENT doesnt want to see me. She wants me to go to this Infectious Disdease doctor. Can anyone tell me what kind of doctor that is and what they do ? Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 The ENT doesnt want to see me. She wants me to go to this Infectious Disdease doctor. Can anyone tell me what kind of doctor that is and what they do ? Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 How did you find a 'clean' place to live?? How did you determine it to be safe? Thanks >> From: " winslake " <winslake@...> Subject: Re: File - Question Infectious Disease We got out of the environment causing it and saw an ENT who is educated on the effects of mold and fungus (yeast). We __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 How did you find a 'clean' place to live?? How did you determine it to be safe? Thanks >> From: " winslake " <winslake@...> Subject: Re: File - Question Infectious Disease We got out of the environment causing it and saw an ENT who is educated on the effects of mold and fungus (yeast). We __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Barb, We didn't find it - we remediated the one we were in. Removed all carpet - it's a mold and dust trap no matter how good your vacuum is or how often you vacuum. Installed tile in the baths and kitchen areas and wood floors in the rest of the house. We finished the wood with nontoxic stains and finishes from AFM (American Formulating and Manufacturing). They have very good non- toxic products. We use their paints as well. We also installed air systems that purify the air that pass through it. We also use standalone air purifiers in the bedrooms and main living areas. We also run two dehumidifiers and have humidistats that tell us the humidity in the house (around 50% or less is best). We clean the dehumidifiers regularly. We also test, using inexpensive mold plates, the house monthly for any mold growth (mold spore count consistently below 4 is good for us). We also have ionizers that prevent particles from floating in the air. No live plants are allowed in the house (they harbor mold). All shoes have a place by the outside doors - no " outside " shoes allowed to be worn in the house. We clean regularly with unscented basic cleaning products (Seventh Generation products, BonAmi, water). Purchased a real good HEPA vacuum cleaner. All beds are encased in mattress covers that do not allow dust mites through. Similar products for all pillows. We're chemically sensitive, so we do not allow anything that smells chemical to come into the house. We only use fragrance-free personal products. We do not spray our lawn with any chemicals. It sounds like a lot but all of this could be done over time in any place. I hope this helps. We've learned a lot - happy to share what we've learned. winslake > How did you find a 'clean' place to live?? How did you determine it to be safe? > Thanks > >> > From: " winslake " <winslake@y...> > Subject: Re: File - Question Infectious Disease > > We got out of the environment > causing it and saw > an ENT who is educated on the effects of mold and > fungus (yeast). We > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Barb, We didn't find it - we remediated the one we were in. Removed all carpet - it's a mold and dust trap no matter how good your vacuum is or how often you vacuum. Installed tile in the baths and kitchen areas and wood floors in the rest of the house. We finished the wood with nontoxic stains and finishes from AFM (American Formulating and Manufacturing). They have very good non- toxic products. We use their paints as well. We also installed air systems that purify the air that pass through it. We also use standalone air purifiers in the bedrooms and main living areas. We also run two dehumidifiers and have humidistats that tell us the humidity in the house (around 50% or less is best). We clean the dehumidifiers regularly. We also test, using inexpensive mold plates, the house monthly for any mold growth (mold spore count consistently below 4 is good for us). We also have ionizers that prevent particles from floating in the air. No live plants are allowed in the house (they harbor mold). All shoes have a place by the outside doors - no " outside " shoes allowed to be worn in the house. We clean regularly with unscented basic cleaning products (Seventh Generation products, BonAmi, water). Purchased a real good HEPA vacuum cleaner. All beds are encased in mattress covers that do not allow dust mites through. Similar products for all pillows. We're chemically sensitive, so we do not allow anything that smells chemical to come into the house. We only use fragrance-free personal products. We do not spray our lawn with any chemicals. It sounds like a lot but all of this could be done over time in any place. I hope this helps. We've learned a lot - happy to share what we've learned. winslake > How did you find a 'clean' place to live?? How did you determine it to be safe? > Thanks > >> > From: " winslake " <winslake@y...> > Subject: Re: File - Question Infectious Disease > > We got out of the environment > causing it and saw > an ENT who is educated on the effects of mold and > fungus (yeast). We > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 white vinagar kills mold....so I am told and I have used it on the wood on my balcony Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 white vinagar kills mold....so I am told and I have used it on the wood on my balcony Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 So glad we're on this topic! What chemical product kills mold? Thought 1:1 bleach & water would do it, but apparently not. Need some suggestions please! > > How did you find a 'clean' place to live?? How did you determine > it to be safe? > > Thanks > > >> > > From: " winslake " <winslake@y...> > > Subject: Re: File - Question Infectious Disease > > > > We got out of the environment > > causing it and saw > > an ENT who is educated on the effects of mold and > > fungus (yeast). We > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 So glad we're on this topic! What chemical product kills mold? Thought 1:1 bleach & water would do it, but apparently not. Need some suggestions please! > > How did you find a 'clean' place to live?? How did you determine > it to be safe? > > Thanks > > >> > > From: " winslake " <winslake@y...> > > Subject: Re: File - Question Infectious Disease > > > > We got out of the environment > > causing it and saw > > an ENT who is educated on the effects of mold and > > fungus (yeast). We > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2004 Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 Grapefruit Seed Extract kills mold. You can find it in health food stores (white bottle with big red " GSE " on the front). Use it in cleaning solutions and in the laundry. winslake > > > How did you find a 'clean' place to live?? How did you determine > > it to be safe? > > > Thanks > > > >> > > > From: " winslake " <winslake@y...> > > > Subject: Re: File - Question Infectious Disease > > > > > > We got out of the environment > > > causing it and saw > > > an ENT who is educated on the effects of mold and > > > fungus (yeast). We > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2004 Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 Grapefruit Seed Extract kills mold. You can find it in health food stores (white bottle with big red " GSE " on the front). Use it in cleaning solutions and in the laundry. winslake > > > How did you find a 'clean' place to live?? How did you determine > > it to be safe? > > > Thanks > > > >> > > > From: " winslake " <winslake@y...> > > > Subject: Re: File - Question Infectious Disease > > > > > > We got out of the environment > > > causing it and saw > > > an ENT who is educated on the effects of mold and > > > fungus (yeast). We > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2004 Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 Straight vinegar. Just don't know if that works on stachy, though. Barth TOXIC MOLD SURVEY: www.presenting.net/sbs/sbssurvey.html --- x> So glad we're on this topic! What chemical product kills mold? x> Thought 1:1 bleach water would do it, but apparently not. Need x> some suggestions please! x> x> >> > How did you find a 'clean' place to live?? How did you determine >> it to be safe? >> > Thanks >> > >> >> >   From: " winslake " <winslake@y...> >> > Subject: Re: File - Question Infectious Disease >> > >> > We got out of the environment >> > causing it and saw >> > an ENT who is educated on the effects of mold and >> > fungus (yeast). We >> > >> > >> > __________________________________________________ >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2004 Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 Straight vinegar. Just don't know if that works on stachy, though. Barth TOXIC MOLD SURVEY: www.presenting.net/sbs/sbssurvey.html --- x> So glad we're on this topic! What chemical product kills mold? x> Thought 1:1 bleach water would do it, but apparently not. Need x> some suggestions please! x> x> >> > How did you find a 'clean' place to live?? How did you determine >> it to be safe? >> > Thanks >> > >> >> >   From: " winslake " <winslake@y...> >> > Subject: Re: File - Question Infectious Disease >> > >> > We got out of the environment >> > causing it and saw >> > an ENT who is educated on the effects of mold and >> > fungus (yeast). We >> > >> > >> > __________________________________________________ >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Thanks for info. I have used Home Depot kits too and used them to test different parts of the house, found three areas they said unusual conditions existed. Two we suspected (basement and garage) and other was our porch and we were using the porch to go out onto to get some 'fresh air' so were very surprised. We are thinking it might have something to do with fact that we have compost pile on hill too close to house. I am arranging to get it cleaned of hill soon to see if that takes care of it. Also every summer we clean mildew off of porch upholstery but perhaps we are just getting the surfaces clean and still mold but look clean. It was good to know we were going out on to it for some 'fresh air' and was worse than typical room inside so O have found them handy. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Thanks for info. I have used Home Depot kits too and used them to test different parts of the house, found three areas they said unusual conditions existed. Two we suspected (basement and garage) and other was our porch and we were using the porch to go out onto to get some 'fresh air' so were very surprised. We are thinking it might have something to do with fact that we have compost pile on hill too close to house. I am arranging to get it cleaned of hill soon to see if that takes care of it. Also every summer we clean mildew off of porch upholstery but perhaps we are just getting the surfaces clean and still mold but look clean. It was good to know we were going out on to it for some 'fresh air' and was worse than typical room inside so O have found them handy. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 In my case, there was no airborne Stachy and nothing showed up on any of the surface sampling yet I was still sick. It was just like the housing complex in Sweden that Dr Marinkovich desribed to me in which everyone was sick but the colony was sealed so tightly within the walls that no spores escaped - just the toxic gasses. So I warn people that just because the mold plates detect nothing, it doesn't really rule out a mold problem. And sometimes water leaks can occur in the damndest places, like if a nail through sheetrock creates a trickle that isn't enough to completely soak the wall but is enough to feed Stachy on the interior. My advice is, if you feel sick in your house and somewhat better when you are away - hire an experienced Environmental Specialist who knows the tricks and don't rely on the mold plates. It could save your life. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 In my case, there was no airborne Stachy and nothing showed up on any of the surface sampling yet I was still sick. It was just like the housing complex in Sweden that Dr Marinkovich desribed to me in which everyone was sick but the colony was sealed so tightly within the walls that no spores escaped - just the toxic gasses. So I warn people that just because the mold plates detect nothing, it doesn't really rule out a mold problem. And sometimes water leaks can occur in the damndest places, like if a nail through sheetrock creates a trickle that isn't enough to completely soak the wall but is enough to feed Stachy on the interior. My advice is, if you feel sick in your house and somewhat better when you are away - hire an experienced Environmental Specialist who knows the tricks and don't rely on the mold plates. It could save your life. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Yes! , I see where you are coming from. If there's a doubt hire someone to verify. We did. An industrial hygienist. He did a thourough job of testing in the living space as well as in the walls, etc. My point on the plates was as an initial " screen " that's inexpensive and can be done by the homeowner. Sounds like from another post on here that's exactly what someone did. Very smart. As for the Rx plates vs. another source. They were available this way - I can buy them for testing myself ($5) or to send off ($25). At least there's an option. I guess you could not send off the home depot plate but you spent money to have it tested. Another reason - we generally test 5-6 areas of the house - it can add up. winslake. > > In my case, there was no airborne Stachy and nothing showed up on any > of the surface sampling yet I was still sick. > It was just like the housing complex in Sweden that Dr Marinkovich > desribed to me in which everyone was sick but the colony was sealed > so tightly within the walls that no spores escaped - just the toxic > gasses. > So I warn people that just because the mold plates detect nothing, it > doesn't really rule out a mold problem. > And sometimes water leaks can occur in the damndest places, like if a > nail through sheetrock creates a trickle that isn't enough to > completely soak the wall but is enough to feed Stachy on the interior. > > My advice is, if you feel sick in your house and somewhat better when > you are away - hire an experienced Environmental Specialist who > knows the tricks and don't rely on the mold plates. > It could save your life. > - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Yes! , I see where you are coming from. If there's a doubt hire someone to verify. We did. An industrial hygienist. He did a thourough job of testing in the living space as well as in the walls, etc. My point on the plates was as an initial " screen " that's inexpensive and can be done by the homeowner. Sounds like from another post on here that's exactly what someone did. Very smart. As for the Rx plates vs. another source. They were available this way - I can buy them for testing myself ($5) or to send off ($25). At least there's an option. I guess you could not send off the home depot plate but you spent money to have it tested. Another reason - we generally test 5-6 areas of the house - it can add up. winslake. > > In my case, there was no airborne Stachy and nothing showed up on any > of the surface sampling yet I was still sick. > It was just like the housing complex in Sweden that Dr Marinkovich > desribed to me in which everyone was sick but the colony was sealed > so tightly within the walls that no spores escaped - just the toxic > gasses. > So I warn people that just because the mold plates detect nothing, it > doesn't really rule out a mold problem. > And sometimes water leaks can occur in the damndest places, like if a > nail through sheetrock creates a trickle that isn't enough to > completely soak the wall but is enough to feed Stachy on the interior. > > My advice is, if you feel sick in your house and somewhat better when > you are away - hire an experienced Environmental Specialist who > knows the tricks and don't rely on the mold plates. > It could save your life. > - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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