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when was your surgery date?About 4-6 weeks out a stall is normal.Also remember, we are living creatures with thousands of years of built-in automatic survival skills. If you drop the calories to much, your body will think a famine has started and lower your metabolic rate...or worse, it will cannibalize muscle for energy. Also, did you get your measurements before surgery? Sometimes when we are not dropping pounds, we lose inches instead.-dp Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From: "Sponaugle" <csponaugle@...>Sender: Date: Mon, 09 May 2011 00:51:32 -0000< >Reply Subject: Stalled already? So I know I shouldn't be weighing myself every day but let's say I was. And I was consistently losing weight every day. But since I started full liquids I haven't lost anything. I took a hard look at what I was eating and wow it was way too many carbs. I still feel that eating 600 calories a day I should have been losing SOME weight so I am confused about that. But also how people are keeping the carbs to such a minimum. I mean if you do the calculations to keep it below 20% carbs on an 800 calorie diet you are looking at something like 62 net grams of carbs per day. And there are 13 in a cup of skim milk! So what tips and tricks and secrets do people use. Do I need to be more realistic and just be drinking protein powder mixed with water?

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Hi,

It is normal to stall and I stalled for 9 days in the 1st month. Here is what I see that you are doing wrong. It has to do with the amount of carbs. You said 20% of you calories is carbs. You should try to keep your carbs and NO more than 20 total carbs a day NOT 20 % It takes time and effort to keep your carbs low and the other thing you can do it increase you exercise such as more walking. I was also someone who weighed myself everyday. There is good and bad in that, but that is who I am. This is the site that I kept track of all the foods I was putting into my body.

Try keeping track at this site. http://www.livestrong.com/thedailyplate/

I know it is difficult when you stall and feel like you are doing everything right. But the one thing I can see is that you are eating too many carbs. Don't give up, just keep doing what you are doing and cut the carbs. And you did the right thing by coming here and asking for help. It will get better I promise you. I speak from experience.

Hugs,

Suzanne

In a message dated 5/9/2011 7:57:20 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, csponaugle@... writes:

So I know I shouldn't be weighing myself every day but let's say I was. And I was consistently losing weight every day. But since I started full liquids I haven't lost anything. I took a hard look at what I was eating and wow it was way too many carbs. I still feel that eating 600 calories a day I should have been losing SOME weight so I am confused about that. But also how people are keeping the carbs to such a minimum. I mean if you do the calculations to keep it below 20% carbs on an 800 calorie diet you are looking at something like 62 net grams of carbs per day. And there are 13 in a cup of skim milk! So what tips and tricks and secrets do people use. Do I need to be more realistic and just be drinking protein powder mixed with water?

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Hey :)

I don't know where you are in your journey, I'm only two months in, but I always eat my meat first. By the time I've finished a few ounces of that, I usually don't have room for anything else. When I get hungry inbetween meals, I usually drink something and that takes care of the problem. I also do not weigh myself every day. I did that for the first week and it completely freaked me out, so every Monday morning, I weigh myself. Maybe you could get more whole wheats in your diet instead of other carbs? I'm just rambling. I hope that some of this helps :)

From: Sponaugle <csponaugle@...> Sent: Sun, May 8, 2011 7:51:32 PMSubject: Stalled already?

So I know I shouldn't be weighing myself every day but let's say I was. And I was consistently losing weight every day. But since I started full liquids I haven't lost anything. I took a hard look at what I was eating and wow it was way too many carbs. I still feel that eating 600 calories a day I should have been losing SOME weight so I am confused about that. But also how people are keeping the carbs to such a minimum. I mean if you do the calculations to keep it below 20% carbs on an 800 calorie diet you are looking at something like 62 net grams of carbs per day. And there are 13 in a cup of skim milk! So what tips and tricks and secrets do people use. Do I need to be more realistic and just be drinking protein powder mixed with water?

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Your body can only do so much, so fast. It is unrealistic to expect the scale

to drop every single day until you hit goal - even at the beginning of our

journeys. Maybe some people will see a daily loss for a long time, but most

people don't. The scale does not reflect what's really going on regarding fat -

it is only a weight measure, not a fat measure. Most daily weight fluctuations

are due to fluids being retained/released, and bowel contents. In the beginning

very little is getting in, so we are losing a lot of fluid weight everyday.

Then it is virtually impossible not to lose muscle on such a restricted calorie

diet, and muscle weighs more than fat, and takes up less volume. So at the

beginning a lot of the accelerated weightloss people see is fluid and muscle

mass. Once a balance is reached things usually slow down dramatically, or stop

altogether for a time.

Bear in mind that muscle mass = metabolism - so as muscle mass decreases, so

does metabolism. Also, as muscle mass decreases, so does weight, so we actually

do less work when we move than we did prior with more weight. So the body

weight exercise that we do naturally (walking, getting up, sitting down,

climbing stairs, etc.) becomes less challenging the less weight we are carrying.

So if you are not doing weight exercises with dumbells or weight machines, the

muscle you have left is not being worked as hard as before.

I'm no sort of expert on building muscle, but I suspect most body building

experts would find it very challenging to build muscle on someone who is only

consuming 600 calories a day. It goes against everything they've been taught.

Obviously it's possible, I'm just saying that WLS brings in some additional

challenges that aren't experienced by " normal " folk.

You will start losing again - it will come in fits and starts. Don't let the

scale rule how you feel about your journey, and don't rely it soley as an

indication of your success. Make sure you're taking measurements as well, and

noting the " non-scale victories " (NSV), which are really the whole point of WLS

anyway. The reduction in medication, the way our clothes fit, the activities we

are now able to do, not needing seatbelt extenders on planes, being able to sit

in plastic chairs and not have the legs flatten out underneath you... Those are

the most important parts of getting healthier.

Donali

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> So I know I shouldn't be weighing myself every day but let's say I was. And I

was consistently losing weight every day. But since I started full liquids I

haven't lost anything. I took a hard look at what I was eating and wow it was

way too many carbs. I still feel that eating 600 calories a day I should have

been losing SOME weight so I am confused about that. But also how people are

keeping the carbs to such a minimum. I mean if you do the calculations to keep

it below 20% carbs on an 800 calorie diet you are looking at something like 62

net grams of carbs per day. And there are 13 in a cup of skim milk! So what tips

and tricks and secrets do people use. Do I need to be more realistic and just be

drinking protein powder mixed with water?

>

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