Guest guest Posted June 14, 2004 Report Share Posted June 14, 2004 y You are talking about the treatment by Dr. Devi, Dr Cutler was/is a student of hers. Dr. Devi when talked to DIRECTLY has stated that her treatment is for TRUE allergies and is INEFFECTIVE with MCS. One of the doctors I know has discussed this at length with Dr. Devi and she even agreed it is not effective and has REQUESTED that her practicitioners NOT claim it works for this segment of the population. Why doctors seem to think that they can feign efficacy with a treatment for traditional alleriges vs MCS is beyond me. THe only thing that seems logical is tht they think everything is an IgE mediated repsonse, which MCS is not part of. Also, this LONG DISTANCE treatment by phone is just pure FRAUD! There is no way someone can talk to you over the phone and viola cure you. Might as well just use the money to light up a cigarette! Everyone has an ANGLE! Those with MCS are NOT a revenue source for doctors who are trying to remodel their HOMES! Angel On Sun, 13 Jun 2004, Bryce H Ruddock wrote: > Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:44:37 -0400 > From: Bryce H Ruddock <brycervics@...> > Reply- > > Subject: [] Re treatment called NAET > > Have any of you out there had a treatment called NAET---I'm reading a > book now by a chiropractor named Cutler, in which that seems to be her > primary mode of treatment for allergies and MCS. I encourage all > responses on this one! > Ruth > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2004 Report Share Posted June 14, 2004 y You are talking about the treatment by Dr. Devi, Dr Cutler was/is a student of hers. Dr. Devi when talked to DIRECTLY has stated that her treatment is for TRUE allergies and is INEFFECTIVE with MCS. One of the doctors I know has discussed this at length with Dr. Devi and she even agreed it is not effective and has REQUESTED that her practicitioners NOT claim it works for this segment of the population. Why doctors seem to think that they can feign efficacy with a treatment for traditional alleriges vs MCS is beyond me. THe only thing that seems logical is tht they think everything is an IgE mediated repsonse, which MCS is not part of. Also, this LONG DISTANCE treatment by phone is just pure FRAUD! There is no way someone can talk to you over the phone and viola cure you. Might as well just use the money to light up a cigarette! Everyone has an ANGLE! Those with MCS are NOT a revenue source for doctors who are trying to remodel their HOMES! Angel On Sun, 13 Jun 2004, Bryce H Ruddock wrote: > Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:44:37 -0400 > From: Bryce H Ruddock <brycervics@...> > Reply- > > Subject: [] Re treatment called NAET > > Have any of you out there had a treatment called NAET---I'm reading a > book now by a chiropractor named Cutler, in which that seems to be her > primary mode of treatment for allergies and MCS. I encourage all > responses on this one! > Ruth > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2004 Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 Thanks for responding to my question, Angel---I also got feedback from a lady in our support group. She said that she spent two years in NAET treatment for food allergies and MCS. After that time she said her food allergies were better but it did nothing for the chemical problems. After a year or so, she began to get her food allergies back again due to leaky gut, etc. She does not recommend the treatment. It sure pays to ask around!! (Seek and you shall find!) Ruth ps: Have you ever heard of EI docs given patients Dextromethorphan to eradicate MCS symptoms (especially from perfume)??? On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:15:17 +0000 (UTC) Angel MCS <jap2bemc@...> writes: y You are talking about the treatment by Dr. Devi, Dr Cutler was/is a student of hers. Dr. Devi when talked to DIRECTLY has stated that her treatment is for TRUE allergies and is INEFFECTIVE with MCS. One of the doctors I know has discussed this at length with Dr. Devi and she even agreed it is not effective and has REQUESTED that her practicitioners NOT claim it works for this segment of the population. Why doctors seem to think that they can feign efficacy with a treatment for traditional alleriges vs MCS is beyond me. THe only thing that seems logical is tht they think everything is an IgE mediated repsonse, which MCS is not part of. Also, this LONG DISTANCE treatment by phone is just pure FRAUD! There is no way someone can talk to you over the phone and viola cure you. Might as well just use the money to light up a cigarette! Everyone has an ANGLE! Those with MCS are NOT a revenue source for doctors who are trying to remodel their HOMES! Angel On Sun, 13 Jun 2004, Bryce H Ruddock wrote: > Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:44:37 -0400 > From: Bryce H Ruddock <brycervics@...> > Reply- > > Subject: [] Re treatment called NAET > > Have any of you out there had a treatment called NAET---I'm reading a > book now by a chiropractor named Cutler, in which that seems to be her > primary mode of treatment for allergies and MCS. I encourage all > responses on this one! > Ruth > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2004 Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 Thanks for responding to my question, Angel---I also got feedback from a lady in our support group. She said that she spent two years in NAET treatment for food allergies and MCS. After that time she said her food allergies were better but it did nothing for the chemical problems. After a year or so, she began to get her food allergies back again due to leaky gut, etc. She does not recommend the treatment. It sure pays to ask around!! (Seek and you shall find!) Ruth ps: Have you ever heard of EI docs given patients Dextromethorphan to eradicate MCS symptoms (especially from perfume)??? On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:15:17 +0000 (UTC) Angel MCS <jap2bemc@...> writes: y You are talking about the treatment by Dr. Devi, Dr Cutler was/is a student of hers. Dr. Devi when talked to DIRECTLY has stated that her treatment is for TRUE allergies and is INEFFECTIVE with MCS. One of the doctors I know has discussed this at length with Dr. Devi and she even agreed it is not effective and has REQUESTED that her practicitioners NOT claim it works for this segment of the population. Why doctors seem to think that they can feign efficacy with a treatment for traditional alleriges vs MCS is beyond me. THe only thing that seems logical is tht they think everything is an IgE mediated repsonse, which MCS is not part of. Also, this LONG DISTANCE treatment by phone is just pure FRAUD! There is no way someone can talk to you over the phone and viola cure you. Might as well just use the money to light up a cigarette! Everyone has an ANGLE! Those with MCS are NOT a revenue source for doctors who are trying to remodel their HOMES! Angel On Sun, 13 Jun 2004, Bryce H Ruddock wrote: > Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:44:37 -0400 > From: Bryce H Ruddock <brycervics@...> > Reply- > > Subject: [] Re treatment called NAET > > Have any of you out there had a treatment called NAET---I'm reading a > book now by a chiropractor named Cutler, in which that seems to be her > primary mode of treatment for allergies and MCS. I encourage all > responses on this one! > Ruth > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2004 Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 There is one thing that the doctors keep missing....the MCS pt has an overload of chems in the body...the liver is not processing fast enough in phase 1 and now you want to add another chem into this chemical soup. THe only thing I have found to alleviate but NOT CURE MCS symptoms from perFUMEs is a homeopathic remedy called cosmetstat. Also, I do my own accupuncture when I really need to detox after a hard hit of a fragrance. Also, advise and heed this...I was in bed bath and beyond yeswterday. I walked in the place STUNK and I mean BAD...so, I went got a mask to go in. Even with the mask it was so bad I had to leave, as I never had really that much trouble in the store. I get into the car the first words out of my husbands mouth isw YOU REEK! He is not chemically senswitive but he said it was so bad he had to open the windows. I was so whacked it wasn't eve3n funny, I had to resort to the heavy duty homeopathics (higher doseage) and even that didn't work. Back to your question....I find hiomeopathic remedies counteract most exposwures. I have played around with enough now I know which ones work with whihc chem. YOu could try the acupuncture ppoints and use your fingernail to act as the *needle*...there are certain points in the ear that work wonderfully! You notice a decrease immediately. THere is no magic bullet/drug etc. ITs a long slow process that will allow you eventually...if you are lucky, to tolerate some that you dont react as violently too. Remember one thing...an allopathic doctor is used to using drugs to treat a symptom not a casue...aka ANTIfungal, ANTIbacterials, ANTIpyretic....then when you take the drug there are a long list of adverse effects...but don't worry they have yet ANOTHER drug to counteract those and it goes on and on. I was VERY ANTI homeopathics until I read a book and said what the hell can't hurt...now, I swear by them and they do work and no side effects. Check out the COmplete Book of Homeopathy by Weiner it converted me. Angel On Tue, 15 Jun 2004, Bryce H Ruddock wrote: > Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 07:46:13 -0400 > From: Bryce H Ruddock <brycervics@...> > Reply- > > Subject: Re: [] Re treatment called NAET > > Thanks for responding to my question, Angel---I also got feedback from a > lady in our support group. She said that she spent two years in NAET > treatment for food allergies and MCS. After that time she said her food > allergies were better but it did nothing for the chemical problems. After > a year or so, she began to get her food allergies back again due to leaky > gut, etc. She does not recommend the treatment. > It sure pays to ask around!! (Seek and you shall find!) > Ruth > ps: Have you ever heard of EI docs given patients Dextromethorphan to > eradicate MCS symptoms (especially from perfume)??? > > On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:15:17 +0000 (UTC) Angel MCS > <jap2bemc@...> writes: > y > > > You are talking about the treatment by Dr. Devi, Dr Cutler was/is a > student of hers. > > Dr. Devi when talked to DIRECTLY has stated that her treatment is for > TRUE > allergies and is INEFFECTIVE with MCS. > > One of the doctors I know has discussed this at length with Dr. Devi and > she even agreed it is not effective and has REQUESTED that her > practicitioners NOT claim it works for this segment of the population. > > Why doctors seem to think that they can feign efficacy with a treatment > for traditional alleriges vs MCS is beyond me. THe only thing that seems > > logical is tht they think everything is an IgE mediated repsonse, which > MCS is not part of. > > Also, this LONG DISTANCE treatment by phone is just pure FRAUD! There is > > no way someone can talk to you over the phone and viola cure you. Might > as well just use the money to light up a cigarette! > > Everyone has an ANGLE! Those with MCS are NOT a revenue source for > doctors who are trying to remodel their HOMES! > > Angel > > > On Sun, 13 Jun 2004, Bryce H Ruddock wrote: > >> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:44:37 -0400 >> From: Bryce H Ruddock <brycervics@...> >> Reply- >> >> Subject: [] Re treatment called NAET >> >> Have any of you out there had a treatment called NAET---I'm reading a >> book now by a chiropractor named Cutler, in which that seems to be her >> primary mode of treatment for allergies and MCS. I encourage all >> responses on this one! >> Ruth >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2004 Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 There is one thing that the doctors keep missing....the MCS pt has an overload of chems in the body...the liver is not processing fast enough in phase 1 and now you want to add another chem into this chemical soup. THe only thing I have found to alleviate but NOT CURE MCS symptoms from perFUMEs is a homeopathic remedy called cosmetstat. Also, I do my own accupuncture when I really need to detox after a hard hit of a fragrance. Also, advise and heed this...I was in bed bath and beyond yeswterday. I walked in the place STUNK and I mean BAD...so, I went got a mask to go in. Even with the mask it was so bad I had to leave, as I never had really that much trouble in the store. I get into the car the first words out of my husbands mouth isw YOU REEK! He is not chemically senswitive but he said it was so bad he had to open the windows. I was so whacked it wasn't eve3n funny, I had to resort to the heavy duty homeopathics (higher doseage) and even that didn't work. Back to your question....I find hiomeopathic remedies counteract most exposwures. I have played around with enough now I know which ones work with whihc chem. YOu could try the acupuncture ppoints and use your fingernail to act as the *needle*...there are certain points in the ear that work wonderfully! You notice a decrease immediately. THere is no magic bullet/drug etc. ITs a long slow process that will allow you eventually...if you are lucky, to tolerate some that you dont react as violently too. Remember one thing...an allopathic doctor is used to using drugs to treat a symptom not a casue...aka ANTIfungal, ANTIbacterials, ANTIpyretic....then when you take the drug there are a long list of adverse effects...but don't worry they have yet ANOTHER drug to counteract those and it goes on and on. I was VERY ANTI homeopathics until I read a book and said what the hell can't hurt...now, I swear by them and they do work and no side effects. Check out the COmplete Book of Homeopathy by Weiner it converted me. Angel On Tue, 15 Jun 2004, Bryce H Ruddock wrote: > Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 07:46:13 -0400 > From: Bryce H Ruddock <brycervics@...> > Reply- > > Subject: Re: [] Re treatment called NAET > > Thanks for responding to my question, Angel---I also got feedback from a > lady in our support group. She said that she spent two years in NAET > treatment for food allergies and MCS. After that time she said her food > allergies were better but it did nothing for the chemical problems. After > a year or so, she began to get her food allergies back again due to leaky > gut, etc. She does not recommend the treatment. > It sure pays to ask around!! (Seek and you shall find!) > Ruth > ps: Have you ever heard of EI docs given patients Dextromethorphan to > eradicate MCS symptoms (especially from perfume)??? > > On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:15:17 +0000 (UTC) Angel MCS > <jap2bemc@...> writes: > y > > > You are talking about the treatment by Dr. Devi, Dr Cutler was/is a > student of hers. > > Dr. Devi when talked to DIRECTLY has stated that her treatment is for > TRUE > allergies and is INEFFECTIVE with MCS. > > One of the doctors I know has discussed this at length with Dr. Devi and > she even agreed it is not effective and has REQUESTED that her > practicitioners NOT claim it works for this segment of the population. > > Why doctors seem to think that they can feign efficacy with a treatment > for traditional alleriges vs MCS is beyond me. THe only thing that seems > > logical is tht they think everything is an IgE mediated repsonse, which > MCS is not part of. > > Also, this LONG DISTANCE treatment by phone is just pure FRAUD! There is > > no way someone can talk to you over the phone and viola cure you. Might > as well just use the money to light up a cigarette! > > Everyone has an ANGLE! Those with MCS are NOT a revenue source for > doctors who are trying to remodel their HOMES! > > Angel > > > On Sun, 13 Jun 2004, Bryce H Ruddock wrote: > >> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:44:37 -0400 >> From: Bryce H Ruddock <brycervics@...> >> Reply- >> >> Subject: [] Re treatment called NAET >> >> Have any of you out there had a treatment called NAET---I'm reading a >> book now by a chiropractor named Cutler, in which that seems to be her >> primary mode of treatment for allergies and MCS. I encourage all >> responses on this one! >> Ruth >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 Angel, I apppreciate your info so much! Question: do you get the " cosmetstat " from a naturapathic doc or can we get it at EathFare health food stores , etc. Ruth On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 22:54:22 +0000 (UTC) Angel MCS <jap2bemc@...> writes: There is one thing that the doctors keep missing....the MCS pt has an overload of chems in the body...the liver is not processing fast enough in phase 1 and now you want to add another chem into this chemical soup. THe only thing I have found to alleviate but NOT CURE MCS symptoms from perFUMEs is a homeopathic remedy called cosmetstat. Also, I do my own accupuncture when I really need to detox after a hard hit of a fragrance. Also, advise and heed this...I was in bed bath and beyond yeswterday. I walked in the place STUNK and I mean BAD...so, I went got a mask to go in. Even with the mask it was so bad I had to leave, as I never had really that much trouble in the store. I get into the car the first words out of my husbands mouth isw YOU REEK! He is not chemically senswitive but he said it was so bad he had to open the windows. I was so whacked it wasn't eve3n funny, I had to resort to the heavy duty homeopathics (higher doseage) and even that didn't work. Back to your question....I find hiomeopathic remedies counteract most exposwures. I have played around with enough now I know which ones work with whihc chem. YOu could try the acupuncture ppoints and use your fingernail to act as the *needle*...there are certain points in the ear that work wonderfully! You notice a decrease immediately. THere is no magic bullet/drug etc. ITs a long slow process that will allow you eventually...if you are lucky, to tolerate some that you dont react as violently too. Remember one thing...an allopathic doctor is used to using drugs to treat a symptom not a casue...aka ANTIfungal, ANTIbacterials, ANTIpyretic....then when you take the drug there are a long list of adverse effects...but don't worry they have yet ANOTHER drug to counteract those and it goes on and on. I was VERY ANTI homeopathics until I read a book and said what the hell can't hurt...now, I swear by them and they do work and no side effects. Check out the COmplete Book of Homeopathy by Weiner it converted me. Angel On Tue, 15 Jun 2004, Bryce H Ruddock wrote: > Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 07:46:13 -0400 > From: Bryce H Ruddock <brycervics@...> > Reply- > > Subject: Re: [] Re treatment called NAET > > Thanks for responding to my question, Angel---I also got feedback from a > lady in our support group. She said that she spent two years in NAET > treatment for food allergies and MCS. After that time she said her food > allergies were better but it did nothing for the chemical problems. After > a year or so, she began to get her food allergies back again due to leaky > gut, etc. She does not recommend the treatment. > It sure pays to ask around!! (Seek and you shall find!) > Ruth > ps: Have you ever heard of EI docs given patients Dextromethorphan to > eradicate MCS symptoms (especially from perfume)??? > > On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:15:17 +0000 (UTC) Angel MCS > <jap2bemc@...> writes: > y > > > You are talking about the treatment by Dr. Devi, Dr Cutler was/is a > student of hers. > > Dr. Devi when talked to DIRECTLY has stated that her treatment is for > TRUE > allergies and is INEFFECTIVE with MCS. > > One of the doctors I know has discussed this at length with Dr. Devi and > she even agreed it is not effective and has REQUESTED that her > practicitioners NOT claim it works for this segment of the population. > > Why doctors seem to think that they can feign efficacy with a treatment > for traditional alleriges vs MCS is beyond me. THe only thing that seems > > logical is tht they think everything is an IgE mediated repsonse, which > MCS is not part of. > > Also, this LONG DISTANCE treatment by phone is just pure FRAUD! There is > > no way someone can talk to you over the phone and viola cure you. Might > as well just use the money to light up a cigarette! > > Everyone has an ANGLE! Those with MCS are NOT a revenue source for > doctors who are trying to remodel their HOMES! > > Angel > > > On Sun, 13 Jun 2004, Bryce H Ruddock wrote: > >> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:44:37 -0400 >> From: Bryce H Ruddock <brycervics@...> >> Reply- >> >> Subject: [] Re treatment called NAET >> >> Have any of you out there had a treatment called NAET---I'm reading a >> book now by a chiropractor named Cutler, in which that seems to be her >> primary mode of treatment for allergies and MCS. I encourage all >> responses on this one! >> Ruth >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 Angel, I apppreciate your info so much! Question: do you get the " cosmetstat " from a naturapathic doc or can we get it at EathFare health food stores , etc. Ruth On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 22:54:22 +0000 (UTC) Angel MCS <jap2bemc@...> writes: There is one thing that the doctors keep missing....the MCS pt has an overload of chems in the body...the liver is not processing fast enough in phase 1 and now you want to add another chem into this chemical soup. THe only thing I have found to alleviate but NOT CURE MCS symptoms from perFUMEs is a homeopathic remedy called cosmetstat. Also, I do my own accupuncture when I really need to detox after a hard hit of a fragrance. Also, advise and heed this...I was in bed bath and beyond yeswterday. I walked in the place STUNK and I mean BAD...so, I went got a mask to go in. Even with the mask it was so bad I had to leave, as I never had really that much trouble in the store. I get into the car the first words out of my husbands mouth isw YOU REEK! He is not chemically senswitive but he said it was so bad he had to open the windows. I was so whacked it wasn't eve3n funny, I had to resort to the heavy duty homeopathics (higher doseage) and even that didn't work. Back to your question....I find hiomeopathic remedies counteract most exposwures. I have played around with enough now I know which ones work with whihc chem. YOu could try the acupuncture ppoints and use your fingernail to act as the *needle*...there are certain points in the ear that work wonderfully! You notice a decrease immediately. THere is no magic bullet/drug etc. ITs a long slow process that will allow you eventually...if you are lucky, to tolerate some that you dont react as violently too. Remember one thing...an allopathic doctor is used to using drugs to treat a symptom not a casue...aka ANTIfungal, ANTIbacterials, ANTIpyretic....then when you take the drug there are a long list of adverse effects...but don't worry they have yet ANOTHER drug to counteract those and it goes on and on. I was VERY ANTI homeopathics until I read a book and said what the hell can't hurt...now, I swear by them and they do work and no side effects. Check out the COmplete Book of Homeopathy by Weiner it converted me. Angel On Tue, 15 Jun 2004, Bryce H Ruddock wrote: > Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 07:46:13 -0400 > From: Bryce H Ruddock <brycervics@...> > Reply- > > Subject: Re: [] Re treatment called NAET > > Thanks for responding to my question, Angel---I also got feedback from a > lady in our support group. She said that she spent two years in NAET > treatment for food allergies and MCS. After that time she said her food > allergies were better but it did nothing for the chemical problems. After > a year or so, she began to get her food allergies back again due to leaky > gut, etc. She does not recommend the treatment. > It sure pays to ask around!! (Seek and you shall find!) > Ruth > ps: Have you ever heard of EI docs given patients Dextromethorphan to > eradicate MCS symptoms (especially from perfume)??? > > On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:15:17 +0000 (UTC) Angel MCS > <jap2bemc@...> writes: > y > > > You are talking about the treatment by Dr. Devi, Dr Cutler was/is a > student of hers. > > Dr. Devi when talked to DIRECTLY has stated that her treatment is for > TRUE > allergies and is INEFFECTIVE with MCS. > > One of the doctors I know has discussed this at length with Dr. Devi and > she even agreed it is not effective and has REQUESTED that her > practicitioners NOT claim it works for this segment of the population. > > Why doctors seem to think that they can feign efficacy with a treatment > for traditional alleriges vs MCS is beyond me. THe only thing that seems > > logical is tht they think everything is an IgE mediated repsonse, which > MCS is not part of. > > Also, this LONG DISTANCE treatment by phone is just pure FRAUD! There is > > no way someone can talk to you over the phone and viola cure you. Might > as well just use the money to light up a cigarette! > > Everyone has an ANGLE! Those with MCS are NOT a revenue source for > doctors who are trying to remodel their HOMES! > > Angel > > > On Sun, 13 Jun 2004, Bryce H Ruddock wrote: > >> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:44:37 -0400 >> From: Bryce H Ruddock <brycervics@...> >> Reply- >> >> Subject: [] Re treatment called NAET >> >> Have any of you out there had a treatment called NAET---I'm reading a >> book now by a chiropractor named Cutler, in which that seems to be her >> primary mode of treatment for allergies and MCS. I encourage all >> responses on this one! >> Ruth >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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