Re: In Mexico...Viva La Sleeva!

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Very smart to stay at the hotel for some post-op recovery. Congratulations on your surgery and this journey in your life! Lois le <Sky_of_Gin@...> wrote: Hi everyone! I'm here at the hotel Lucerna on my third night out post op, recovering slowly but surely. First night was fan-taaastic! I had a spinal blocker and could have done all but danced on the nurses's station I felt so great. Then there was day two.....Not so good. Lots of gas pain, lots of discomfort. The doctor and another patient warned me about this, however I felt for sure I'd fart it up and feel just fiiiine. This was not to come to pass. It took me about 36hrs out from surgery before I was able to fart. Since then I've felt much better. Unlike some people I have had the urge to

eat, but it's all head hunger. The idea of swallowing causes me to flinch in pain. I'll stick to my broth, thankyouverymuch. Hotel Lucerna is really great, they're used to having the patients here, and are very helpful and nice. In fact, everyone has been helpful and nice. There are some nurses at the hospital that don't speak english, but with some hand gestures and very minimal spanish skills will try to help you to the best that they can understand your needs. I'll keep you posted! le aka The Fox Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search.

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Hi le,

What a beautiful name. So glad to hear you are doing well.

Wanted to ask you why the ideal of swallowing causes you to

flinch in pain? Also do they put a mesh over your stomach to

in sure that it heals in place and doesn't stretch out over time?

Sorry just wanting to understand the sleeve...Don't ever get to

hear too much about it. Please keep up posted as I know every-

one is so interested. Wishing you pain free days and much weight

loss and happiness.

Deb

Life with the Band is Grand

> Unlike some people I have had the urge to eat, but it's all head

hunger. The idea of swallowing causes me to flinch in pain. I'll stick

to my broth, thankyouverymuch.

>

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Hi le

My name is LaDonna

Im looking to have the sleeve or band done the end of

the month. I would really like to talk to you about

your surgery and how you came to choose the Dr and

place you did. Would you be willing or are you up for

a call. You can email me here or

grandmadonno@...

--- le <Sky_of_Gin@...> wrote:

> Hi everyone! I'm here at the hotel Lucerna on my

> third night out post op, recovering slowly but

> surely.

>

> First night was fan-taaastic! I had a spinal blocker

> and could have done all but danced on the nurses's

> station I felt so great.

>

> Then there was day two.....Not so good. Lots of gas

> pain, lots of discomfort. The doctor and another

> patient warned me about this, however I felt for

> sure I'd fart it up and feel just fiiiine. This was

> not to come to pass. It took me about 36hrs out from

> surgery before I was able to fart. Since then I've

> felt much better.

>

> Unlike some people I have had the urge to eat, but

> it's all head hunger. The idea of swallowing causes

> me to flinch in pain. I'll stick to my broth,

> thankyouverymuch.

>

> Hotel Lucerna is really great, they're used to

> having the patients here, and are very helpful and

> nice. In fact, everyone has been helpful and nice.

> There are some nurses at the hospital that don't

> speak english, but with some hand gestures and very

> minimal spanish skills will try to help you to the

> best that they can understand your needs.

>

>

> I'll keep you posted!

> le

> aka

> The Fox

>

>

>

>

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hello gabrielle. good to hear from a sleevey. Am going

to be one myself in a few days. please let me know if

you took gas-ex pills or strips to control the gas

pain. Also did the tylenol gel caps come into action

or did you not need them Also did you take some

bouillon instant with you to have a broth whenever

needed.A lot of questions, but i would be soo grateful

if you did answer them soon.am leaving for mexico

1/15. Thanks Christa(gnaedigunde)

--- lois hansen <ljhans5@...> wrote:

> Very smart to stay at the hotel for some post-op

> recovery. Congratulations on your surgery and this

> journey in your life! Lois

>

> le <Sky_of_Gin@...> wrote:

> Hi everyone! I'm here at the hotel

> Lucerna on my third night out post op, recovering

> slowly but surely.

>

> First night was fan-taaastic! I had a spinal

> blocker and could have done all but danced on the

> nurses's station I felt so great.

>

> Then there was day two.....Not so good. Lots of

> gas pain, lots of discomfort. The doctor and another

> patient warned me about this, however I felt for

> sure I'd fart it up and feel just fiiiine. This was

> not to come to pass. It took me about 36hrs out from

> surgery before I was able to fart. Since then I've

> felt much better.

>

> Unlike some people I have had the urge to eat, but

> it's all head hunger. The idea of swallowing causes

> me to flinch in pain. I'll stick to my broth,

> thankyouverymuch.

>

> Hotel Lucerna is really great, they're used to

> having the patients here, and are very helpful and

> nice. In fact, everyone has been helpful and nice.

> There are some nurses at the hospital that don't

> speak english, but with some hand gestures and very

> minimal spanish skills will try to help you to the

> best that they can understand your needs.

>

>

> I'll keep you posted!

> le

> aka

> The Fox

>

>

>

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Hello! I'll try to answer everyone's questions as best as I can. If not, feel free to send me an email. I left Hotel Lucerna yesterday, and drove with my Mom to her place near Lake Arrowhead, CA. I'm flying back to the Philadelphia area on Monday so I'm SURE I'll have something to say about my flying experience on the way home.

Deb- Thank you for the compliment! My name was one of the first and last things my parents ever agreed on, thank goodness

LaDonna & Christa- I'm sending you each an email off list

The Sleeve Itself

The sleeve is performed by removing about 80% of the stomach, it's actually the first part of the Duodenal Switch. The stomach is secured shut by a double line of staples, and a line of hand sewn sutures. They remove the stomach but do not remove or re-route your intestines. This way there is no mal-absorption. However, like all WLS there are some nutritional elements that need to be replenished at a higher level than we can eat. Most VSG'ers that I have spoken to take a multi, a calcium, and a B12 supplement. One of the things I liked about this surgery is that most patients can eat almost anything they did before, but in smaller portions. Also, versions of this surgery have been done for decades to resolve stomach ulcers and stomach cancer.

Pain

This is long, but I'm trying to break it down into segments as much as I can, becuase I had pain at different levels for different reasons.

Like I said, I had a spinal blocker so for 20hrs I thought I was doing GREAT! I was going to dance on the nurses station! Pah, this surgery was a piece of cake! Uhm, then hour 24 or so hit, and I still hadn't passed gas, the spinal blocker wore off, and I became pretty bloomin' miserable. The gas pain is not what I had imagined it would be like. Unlike normal, low in the belly, gas pain I felt mine at the top of my stomach across the bottom of my ribcage. The best thing I can compare it to is a side stitch, that awful cramp you get from walking/jogging too far/hard. Only it wasn't on one side, it was all across the bottom of my chest and made it hard to take a deep breath.

I know that I made things worse unconsciously because I was in so much discomfort I was trying to walk more and more to make myself pass gas, but I wasn't, so I was getting more and more tense, which in turn made me more bound up then I was before. Finally Dr. Aceves came into the room, examined me, told me to relax, and I got another round of pain killers. I felt better, but not great until the next day when I started to pass gas.

I did have a problem with my IV that caused me quite a bit of discomfort on the 2nd night in the hospital. My vein had become very inflamed, and they had to switch the hand that the IV was on. I was already in a lot of discomfort, so this was very painful for me. However once the nurses switch the IV's and gave me more painkillers, I relaxed again and feel asleep. I actually believe that this experience is what helped me to finally pass gas, as later on when the nurse came back to check on my new IV I was relaxed enough to finally, ah, let go.

I had a hard time sleeping on the third night in the hotel, because I wasn't able to get comfortable. I think I got about 4 hours of sleep between 8pm and 10am. In my case, I really believe it was the drain causing irritation. I have felt a *LOT* better since I had it removed yesterday. However other folk I met had no problem with the drain and slept quite fitfully.

Coughing is also painful still, I kinda have to brace myself or I can't get a fully productive cough. Burping takes some getting used to, and at firt was kinda painful. Also, I have stopped talking to my boyfriend till I get back home as he is trying to kill me by making me laugh too hard. Jerk.

Gas-X

I took the gas-x strips, and they didin't help me one bit becauce I left them in the car on the OTHERSIDE of the border like a jackass! A very nice lady who was nextdoor to me in the hospital gave me some of hers. I honestly don't know if they helped or not, because I had a lot post op gas pain, but I can't say it wouldn't have been worse without them. I say bring two boxes along, and take the reccomended dosage til they're gone, it can't hurt and maybe it'll help. Plus you can always share with other patients if you don't like them for some reason. I personally thought they tasted like Andes Mints too.

Tylenol

I did not take the gelcaps, but I am currently on Liquid Tylenol. I am taking at regular dosing times as I'm a damn wuss for pain. For me, pain causes me to spike in anxiety, and that makes everything worse. Pain levels shot down once I started to pass gas and again once the drain was removed. I had a lot of discomfort from the drain, once it was removed my mobility and sleeping greatly improved.

Instant Bullion

I didn't take any with me, although this sounds like a great idea. I'd also reccomend taking some of your favorite decaff tea bags with you. I didn't start drinking again untill about 48 hrs post op.

Hunger

I've been head hungry, or more accurately mouth hungry since my surgery. I wanted to get a piece of chocolate cake the night before as a "last hurrah" but didn't get it. Consequently, I came out of ANESTHSIA dreaming about eating cake. The thought of food and the smell of food is greatly appealing, but my stomach is still so new and healing that I couldn't imagine trying to actually eat something solid at this point. It's not that eating broth/jello is painful, it's that I'm still trying to re-train myself to sip slowly rather than gulp and to eat my jello slowly rather than hoover it down. I have no doubt that in 7 days when I can have full liquids (V8, pudding, yogurt, cream soups) that I will be ready for them, and I'm practically GIDDY for when I get to move onto mushie foods. From what I have seen, Dr. Aceves has a conservative

post op diet, but it's the safest option.

-le

aka, The Fox

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I to had the sleeve done on Dec 20th, 23 days ago and have lost

26lbs! I went through the same experiences discribed below. MY only

advise is to be sure and take your vitiams. This last week I have

beem slacking and boy do I sure feel it. But everything else is

great...no problems!

Ash in Tx

>

> Hello! I'll try to answer everyone's questions as best as I can. If

not, feel free to send me an email. I left Hotel Lucerna yesterday,

and drove with my Mom to her place near Lake Arrowhead, CA. I'm

flying back to the Philadelphia area on Monday so I'm SURE I'll have

something to say about my flying experience on the way home.

>

> Deb- Thank you for the compliment! My name was one of the first and

last things my parents ever agreed on, thank goodness

> LaDonna & Christa- I'm sending you each an email off list

>

> The Sleeve Itself

> The sleeve is performed by removing about 80% of the stomach, it's

actually the first part of the Duodenal Switch. The stomach is

secured shut by a double line of staples, and a line of hand sewn

sutures. They remove the stomach but do not remove or re-route your

intestines. This way there is no mal-absorption. However, like all

WLS there are some nutritional elements that need to be replenished

at a higher level than we can eat. Most VSG'ers that I have spoken to

take a multi, a calcium, and a B12 supplement. One of the things I

liked about this surgery is that most patients can eat almost

anything they did before, but in smaller portions. Also, versions of

this surgery have been done for decades to resolve stomach ulcers and

stomach cancer.

>

> Pain

> This is long, but I'm trying to break it down into segments as much

as I can, becuase I had pain at different levels for different

reasons.

>

> Like I said, I had a spinal blocker so for 20hrs I thought I was

doing GREAT! I was going to dance on the nurses station! Pah, this

surgery was a piece of cake! Uhm, then hour 24 or so hit, and I still

hadn't passed gas, the spinal blocker wore off, and I became pretty

bloomin' miserable. The gas pain is not what I had imagined it would

be like. Unlike normal, low in the belly, gas pain I felt mine at the

top of my stomach across the bottom of my ribcage. The best thing I

can compare it to is a side stitch, that awful cramp you get from

walking/jogging too far/hard. Only it wasn't on one side, it was all

across the bottom of my chest and made it hard to take a deep breath.

>

> I know that I made things worse unconsciously because I was in so

much discomfort I was trying to walk more and more to make myself

pass gas, but I wasn't, so I was getting more and more tense, which

in turn made me more bound up then I was before. Finally Dr. Aceves

came into the room, examined me, told me to relax, and I got another

round of pain killers. I felt better, but not great until the next

day when I started to pass gas.

>

> I did have a problem with my IV that caused me quite a bit of

discomfort on the 2nd night in the hospital. My vein had become very

inflamed, and they had to switch the hand that the IV was on. I was

already in a lot of discomfort, so this was very painful for me.

However once the nurses switch the IV's and gave me more painkillers,

I relaxed again and feel asleep. I actually believe that this

experience is what helped me to finally pass gas, as later on when

the nurse came back to check on my new IV I was relaxed enough to

finally, ah, let go.

>

> I had a hard time sleeping on the third night in the hotel, because

I wasn't able to get comfortable. I think I got about 4 hours of

sleep between 8pm and 10am. In my case, I really believe it was the

drain causing irritation. I have felt a *LOT* better since I had it

removed yesterday. However other folk I met had no problem with the

drain and slept quite fitfully.

>

> Coughing is also painful still, I kinda have to brace myself or I

can't get a fully productive cough. Burping takes some getting used

to, and at firt was kinda painful. Also, I have stopped talking to

my boyfriend till I get back home as he is trying to kill me by

making me laugh too hard. Jerk.

>

>

> Gas-X

> I took the gas-x strips, and they didin't help me one bit becauce I

left them in the car on the OTHERSIDE of the border like a jackass! A

very nice lady who was nextdoor to me in the hospital gave me some of

hers. I honestly don't know if they helped or not, because I had a

lot post op gas pain, but I can't say it wouldn't have been worse

without them. I say bring two boxes along, and take the reccomended

dosage til they're gone, it can't hurt and maybe it'll help. Plus you

can always share with other patients if you don't like them for some

reason. I personally thought they tasted like Andes Mints too.

>

> Tylenol

> I did not take the gelcaps, but I am currently on Liquid Tylenol. I

am taking at regular dosing times as I'm a damn wuss for pain. For

me, pain causes me to spike in anxiety, and that makes everything

worse. Pain levels shot down once I started to pass gas and again

once the drain was removed. I had a lot of discomfort from the drain,

once it was removed my mobility and sleeping greatly improved.

>

> Instant Bullion

> I didn't take any with me, although this sounds like a great idea.

I'd also reccomend taking some of your favorite decaff tea bags with

you. I didn't start drinking again untill about 48 hrs post op.

>

> Hunger

> I've been head hungry, or more accurately mouth hungry since my

surgery. I wanted to get a piece of chocolate cake the night before

as a " last hurrah " but didn't get it. Consequently, I came out of

ANESTHSIA dreaming about eating cake. The thought of food and the

smell of food is greatly appealing, but my stomach is still so new

and healing that I couldn't imagine trying to actually eat something

solid at this point. It's not that eating broth/jello is painful,

it's that I'm still trying to re-train myself to sip slowly rather

than gulp and to eat my jello slowly rather than hoover it down. I

have no doubt that in 7 days when I can have full liquids (V8,

pudding, yogurt, cream soups) that I will be ready for them, and I'm

practically GIDDY for when I get to move onto mushie foods. From what

I have seen, Dr. Aceves has a conservative post op diet, but it's the

safest option.

>

>

> -le

> aka, The Fox

>

>

>

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Wow! The sleeve sounds great. I have never heardof this. Do you know if bandsters are candidates for the sleeve as well?From: crashly24grl <ashleighqualey@...>Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 3:32 PM Subject: Re: In Mexico...Viva La Sleeva!I to had the sleeve done on Dec 20th, 23 days ago and have lost 26lbs! I went through the same experiences discribed below. MY only advise is to be sure and take your vitiams. This last week I have beem slacking and boy do I sure feel it. But everything else is great...no problems! Ash in Tx > > Hello! I'll try to answer everyone's questions as best as I can. If not, feel free to send me an email. I left Hotel Lucerna yesterday, and drove with my Mom to her place near Lake Arrowhead, CA. I'm flying back to the Philadelphia area on Monday so I'm SURE I'll have something to say about my flying experience on the way home. > > Deb- Thank you for the compliment! My name was one of the first and last things my parents ever agreed on, thank goodness > LaDonna & Christa- I'm sending you each an email off list > > The Sleeve Itself > The sleeve is performed by removing about 80% of the stomach, it's actually the first part of the Duodenal Switch. The stomach is secured shut by a double line of staples, and a line of hand sewn sutures. They remove the stomach but do not remove or re-route your intestines. This way there is no mal-absorption. However, like all WLS there are some nutritional elements that need to be replenished at a higher level than we can eat. Most VSG'ers that I have spoken to take a multi, a calcium, and a B12 supplement. One of the things I liked about this surgery is that most patients can eat almost anything they did before, but in smaller portions. Also, versions of this surgery have been done for decades to resolve stomach ulcers and stomach cancer. > > Pain > This is long, but I'm trying to break it down into segments as much as I can, becuase I had pain at different levels for different reasons. > > Like I said, I had a spinal blocker so for 20hrs I thought I was doing GREAT! I was going to dance on the nurses station! Pah, this surgery was a piece of cake! Uhm, then hour 24 or so hit, and I still hadn't passed gas, the spinal blocker wore off, and I became pretty bloomin' miserable. The gas pain is not what I had imagined it would be like. Unlike normal, low in the belly, gas pain I felt mine at the top of my stomach across the bottom of my ribcage. The best thing I can compare it to is a side stitch, that awful cramp you get from walking/jogging too far/hard. Only it wasn't on one side, it was all across the bottom of my chest and made it hard to take a deep breath. > > I know that I made things worse unconsciously because I was in so much discomfort I was trying to walk more and more to make myself pass gas, but I wasn't, so I was getting more and more tense, which in turn made me more bound up then I was before. Finally Dr. Aceves came into the room, examined me, told me to relax, and I got another round of pain killers. I felt better, but not great until the next day when I started to pass gas. > > I did have a problem with my IV that caused me quite a bit of discomfort on the 2nd night in the hospital. My vein had become very inflamed, and they had to switch the hand that the IV was on. I was already in a lot of discomfort, so this was very painful for me. However once the nurses switch the IV's and gave me more painkillers, I relaxed again and feel asleep. I actually believe that this experience is what helped me to finally pass gas, as later on when the nurse came back to check on my new IV I was relaxed enough to finally, ah, let go. > > I had a hard time sleeping on the third night in the hotel, because I wasn't able to get comfortable. I think I got about 4 hours of sleep between 8pm and 10am. In my case, I really believe it was the drain causing irritation. I have felt a *LOT* better since I had it removed yesterday. However other folk I met had no problem with the drain and slept quite fitfully. > > Coughing is also painful still, I kinda have to brace myself or I can't get a fully productive cough. Burping takes some getting used to, and at firt was kinda painful. Also, I have stopped talking to my boyfriend till I get back home as he is trying to kill me by making me laugh too hard. Jerk. > > > Gas-X > I took the gas-x strips, and they didin't help me one bit becauce I left them in the car on the OTHERSIDE of the border like a jackass! A very nice lady who was nextdoor to me in the hospital gave me some of hers. I honestly don't know if they helped or not, because I had a lot post op gas pain, but I can't say it wouldn't have been worse without them. I say bring two boxes along, and take the reccomended dosage til they're gone, it can't hurt and maybe it'll help. Plus you can always share with other patients if you don't like them for some reason. I personally thought they tasted like Andes Mints too. > > Tylenol > I did not take the gelcaps, but I am currently on Liquid Tylenol. I am taking at regular dosing times as I'm a damn wuss for pain. For me, pain causes me to spike in anxiety, and that makes everything worse. Pain levels shot down once I started to pass gas and again once the drain was removed. I had a lot of discomfort from the drain, once it was removed my mobility and sleeping greatly improved. > > Instant Bullion > I didn't take any with me, although this sounds like a great idea. I'd also reccomend taking some of your favorite decaff tea bags with you. I didn't start drinking again untill about 48 hrs post op. > > Hunger > I've been head hungry, or more accurately mouth hungry since my surgery I wanted to get a piece of chocolate cake the night before as a "last hurrah" but didn't get it. Consequently, I came out of ANESTHSIA dreaming about eating cake. The thought of food and the smell of food is greatly appealing, but my stomach is still so new and healing that I couldn't imagine trying to actually eat something solid at this point. It's not that eating broth/jello is painful, it's that I'm still trying to re-train myself to sip slowly rather than gulp and to eat my jello slowly rather than hoover it down. I have no doubt that in 7 days when I can have full liquids (V8, pudding, yogurt, cream soups) that I will be ready for them, and I'm practically GIDDY for when I get to move onto mushie foods. From what I have seen, Dr. Aceves has a conservative post op diet, but it's the safest option. > > > -le > aka, The Fox > > > __________________________________________________________ ______________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ >

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Ash and le: Congratulations on your surgery. Glad you are both doing so well and wish you the very best for a speedy recovery and a great loss of weight!

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> > From: ashleighqualey@...> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 20:32:33 +0000> Subject: Re: In Mexico...Viva La Sleeva!> > I to had the sleeve done on Dec 20th, 23 days ago and have lost > 26lbs! I went through the same experiences discribed below. MY only > advise is to be sure and take your vitiams. This last week I have > beem slacking and boy do I sure feel it. But everything else is > great...no problems!> > Ash in Tx> > > > > >> > Hello! I'll try to answer everyone's questions as best as I can. If > not, feel free to send me an email. I left Hotel Lucerna yesterday, > and drove with my Mom to her place near Lake Arrowhead, CA. I'm > flying back to the Philadelphia area on Monday so I'm SURE I'll have > something to say about my flying experience on the way home. > > > > Deb- Thank you for the compliment! My name was one of the first and > last things my parents ever agreed on, thank goodness > > LaDonna & Christa- I'm sending you each an email off list> > > > The Sleeve Itself> > The sleeve is performed by removing about 80% of the stomach, it's > actually the first part of the Duodenal Switch. The stomach is > secured shut by a double line of staples, and a line of hand sewn > sutures. They remove the stomach but do not remove or re-route your > intestines. This way there is no mal-absorption. However, like all > WLS there are some nutritional elements that need to be replenished > at a higher level than we can eat. Most VSG'ers that I have spoken to > take a multi, a calcium, and a B12 supplement. One of the things I > liked about this surgery is that most patients can eat almost > anything they did before, but in smaller portions. Also, versions of > this surgery have been done for decades to resolve stomach ulcers and > stomach cancer.> > > > Pain> > This is long, but I'm trying to break it down into segments as much > as I can, becuase I had pain at different levels for different > reasons.> > > > Like I said, I had a spinal blocker so for 20hrs I thought I was > doing GREAT! I was going to dance on the nurses station! Pah, this > surgery was a piece of cake! Uhm, then hour 24 or so hit, and I still > hadn't passed gas, the spinal blocker wore off, and I became pretty > bloomin' miserable. The gas pain is not what I had imagined it would > be like. Unlike normal, low in the belly, gas pain I felt mine at the > top of my stomach across the bottom of my ribcage. The best thing I > can compare it to is a side stitch, that awful cramp you get from > walking/jogging too far/hard. Only it wasn't on one side, it was all > across the bottom of my chest and made it hard to take a deep breath. > > > > I know that I made things worse unconsciously because I was in so > much discomfort I was trying to walk more and more to make myself > pass gas, but I wasn't, so I was getting more and more tense, which > in turn made me more bound up then I was before. Finally Dr. Aceves > came into the room, examined me, told me to relax, and I got another > round of pain killers. I felt better, but not great until the next > day when I started to pass gas. > > > > I did have a problem with my IV that caused me quite a bit of > discomfort on the 2nd night in the hospital. My vein had become very > inflamed, and they had to switch the hand that the IV was on. I was > already in a lot of discomfort, so this was very painful for me. > However once the nurses switch the IV's and gave me more painkillers, > I relaxed again and feel asleep. I actually believe that this > experience is what helped me to finally pass gas, as later on when > the nurse came back to check on my new IV I was relaxed enough to > finally, ah, let go.> > > > I had a hard time sleeping on the third night in the hotel, because > I wasn't able to get comfortable. I think I got about 4 hours of > sleep between 8pm and 10am. In my case, I really believe it was the > drain causing irritation. I have felt a *LOT* better since I had it > removed yesterday. However other folk I met had no problem with the > drain and slept quite fitfully. > > > > Coughing is also painful still, I kinda have to brace myself or I > can't get a fully productive cough. Burping takes some getting used > to, and at firt was kinda painful. Also, I have stopped talking to > my boyfriend till I get back home as he is trying to kill me by > making me laugh too hard. Jerk.> > > > > > Gas-X> > I took the gas-x strips, and they didin't help me one bit becauce I > left them in the car on the OTHERSIDE of the border like a jackass! A > very nice lady who was nextdoor to me in the hospital gave me some of > hers. I honestly don't know if they helped or not, because I had a > lot post op gas pain, but I can't say it wouldn't have been worse > without them. I say bring two boxes along, and take the reccomended > dosage til they're gone, it can't hurt and maybe it'll help. Plus you > can always share with other patients if you don't like them for some > reason. I personally thought they tasted like Andes Mints too. > > > > Tylenol> > I did not take the gelcaps, but I am currently on Liquid Tylenol. I > am taking at regular dosing times as I'm a damn wuss for pain. For > me, pain causes me to spike in anxiety, and that makes everything > worse. Pain levels shot down once I started to pass gas and again > once the drain was removed. I had a lot of discomfort from the drain, > once it was removed my mobility and sleeping greatly improved. > > > > Instant Bullion> > I didn't take any with me, although this sounds like a great idea. > I'd also reccomend taking some of your favorite decaff tea bags with > you. I didn't start drinking again untill about 48 hrs post op.> > > > Hunger> > I've been head hungry, or more accurately mouth hungry since my > surgery. I wanted to get a piece of chocolate cake the night before > as a "last hurrah" but didn't get it. Consequently, I came out of > ANESTHSIA dreaming about eating cake. The thought of food and the > smell of food is greatly appealing, but my stomach is still so new > and healing that I couldn't imagine trying to actually eat something > solid at this point. It's not that eating broth/jello is painful, > it's that I'm still trying to re-train myself to sip slowly rather > than gulp and to eat my jello slowly rather than hoover it down. I > have no doubt that in 7 days when I can have full liquids (V8, > pudding, yogurt, cream soups) that I will be ready for them, and I'm > practically GIDDY for when I get to move onto mushie foods. From what > I have seen, Dr. Aceves has a conservative post op diet, but it's the > safest option. > > > > > > -le> > aka, The Fox> > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________> ______________> > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ> >> > > > > >

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...Might want to check out this link:http://www.lapsf.com/weight-loss-surgeries.htmlOne would not want both surgeries, band and sleeve. It would be one or the other.

On Jan 12, 2008 7:24 PM, LISA...a.k.a.PRETTYEYEZ!!! <sxyteacha@...> wrote:

Wow! The sleeve sounds great. I have never heardof this. Do you know if bandsters are candidates for the sleeve as well?

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ldccox@... wrote: Ash and le: Congratulations on your surgery. Glad you are both doing so well and wish you the very best for a speedy recovery and a great loss of weight! C Tampale: Thank you for taking the time to answer all these questions, I greatly appreciate your time. I hope this finds you well on your way and losing all your weight.LaDonna > > From: ashleighqualey > Date:

Sat, 12 Jan 2008 20:32:33 +0000> Subject: Re: In Mexico...Viva La Sleeva!> > I to had the sleeve done on Dec 20th, 23 days ago and have lost > 26lbs! I went through the same experiences discribed below. MY only > advise is to be sure and take your vitiams. This last week I have > beem slacking and boy do I sure feel it. But everything else is > great...no problems!> > Ash in Tx> > > > > >> > Hello! I'll try to answer everyone's questions as best as I can. If > not, feel free to send me an email. I left Hotel Lucerna yesterday, > and drove with my Mom to her place near Lake Arrowhead, CA. I'm > flying back to the Philadelphia area on Monday so I'm SURE I'll have > something to say about my flying

experience on the way home. > > > > Deb- Thank you for the compliment! My name was one of the first and > last things my parents ever agreed on, thank goodness > > LaDonna & Christa- I'm sending you each an email off list> > > > The Sleeve Itself> > The sleeve is performed by removing about 80% of the stomach, it's > actually the first part of the Duodenal Switch. The stomach is > secured shut by a double line of staples, and a line of hand sewn > sutures. They remove the stomach but do not remove or re-route your > intestines. This way there is no mal-absorption. However, like all > WLS there are some nutritional elements that need to be replenished > at a higher level than we can eat. Most VSG'ers that I have spoken to > take a multi, a calcium, and a B12 supplement. One of the things I > liked about this surgery is that most patients can eat

almost > anything they did before, but in smaller portions. Also, versions of > this surgery have been done for decades to resolve stomach ulcers and > stomach cancer.> > > > Pain> > This is long, but I'm trying to break it down into segments as much > as I can, becuase I had pain at different levels for different > reasons.> > > > Like I said, I had a spinal blocker so for 20hrs I thought I was > doing GREAT! I was going to dance on the nurses station! Pah, this > surgery was a piece of cake! Uhm, then hour 24 or so hit, and I still > hadn't passed gas, the spinal blocker wore off, and I became pretty > bloomin' miserable. The gas pain is not what I had imagined it would > be like. Unlike normal, low in the belly, gas pain I felt mine at the > top of my stomach across the bottom of my ribcage. The best thing I > can compare it to is a side

stitch, that awful cramp you get from > walking/jogging too far/hard. Only it wasn't on one side, it was all > across the bottom of my chest and made it hard to take a deep breath. > > > > I know that I made things worse unconsciously because I was in so > much discomfort I was trying to walk more and more to make myself > pass gas, but I wasn't, so I was getting more and more tense, which > in turn made me more bound up then I was before. Finally Dr. Aceves > came into the room, examined me, told me to relax, and I got another > round of pain killers. I felt better, but not great until the next > day when I started to pass gas. > > > > I did have a problem with my IV that caused me quite a bit of > discomfort on the 2nd night in the hospital. My vein had become very > inflamed, and they had to switch the hand that the IV was on. I was > already in a lot of

discomfort, so this was very painful for me. > However once the nurses switch the IV's and gave me more painkillers, > I relaxed again and feel asleep. I actually believe that this > experience is what helped me to finally pass gas, as later on when > the nurse came back to check on my new IV I was relaxed enough to > finally, ah, let go.> > > > I had a hard time sleeping on the third night in the hotel, because > I wasn't able to get comfortable. I think I got about 4 hours of > sleep between 8pm and 10am. In my case, I really believe it was the > drain causing irritation. I have felt a *LOT* better since I had it > removed yesterday. However other folk I met had no problem with the > drain and slept quite fitfully. > > > > Coughing is also painful still, I kinda have to brace myself or I > can't get a fully productive cough. Burping takes some getting used

> to, and at firt was kinda painful. Also, I have stopped talking to > my boyfriend till I get back home as he is trying to kill me by > making me laugh too hard. Jerk.> > > > > > Gas-X> > I took the gas-x strips, and they didin't help me one bit becauce I > left them in the car on the OTHERSIDE of the border like a jackass! A > very nice lady who was nextdoor to me in the hospital gave me some of > hers. I honestly don't know if they helped or not, because I had a > lot post op gas pain, but I can't say it wouldn't have been worse > without them. I say bring two boxes along, and take the reccomended > dosage til they're gone, it can't hurt and maybe it'll help. Plus you > can always share with other patients if you don't like them for some > reason. I personally thought they tasted like Andes Mints too. > > > > Tylenol> > I did

not take the gelcaps, but I am currently on Liquid Tylenol. I > am taking at regular dosing times as I'm a damn wuss for pain. For > me, pain causes me to spike in anxiety, and that makes everything > worse. Pain levels shot down once I started to pass gas and again > once the drain was removed. I had a lot of discomfort from the drain, > once it was removed my mobility and sleeping greatly improved. > > > > Instant Bullion> > I didn't take any with me, although this sounds like a great idea. > I'd also reccomend taking some of your favorite decaff tea bags with > you. I didn't start drinking again untill about 48 hrs post op.> > > > Hunger> > I've been head hungry, or more accurately mouth hungry since my > surgery. I wanted to get a piece of chocolate cake the night before > as a "last hurrah" but didn't get it. Consequently, I came out of >

ANESTHSIA dreaming about eating cake. The thought of food and the > smell of food is greatly appealing, but my stomach is still so new > and healing that I couldn't imagine trying to actually eat something > solid at this point. It's not that eating broth/jello is painful, > it's that I'm still trying to re-train myself to sip slowly rather > than gulp and to eat my jello slowly rather than hoover it down. I > have no doubt that in 7 days when I can have full liquids (V8, > pudding, yogurt, cream soups) that I will be ready for them, and I'm > practically GIDDY for when I get to move onto mushie foods. From what > I have seen, Dr. Aceves has a conservative post op diet, but it's the > safest option. > > > > > > -le> > aka, The Fox> > > > > > >

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Bipley <Bipley@...> wrote: ...Might want to check out this link:http://www.lapsf.com/weight-loss-surgeries.htmlOne would not want both surgeries, band and sleeve. It would be one or the other. On Jan 12, 2008 7:24 PM, LISA...a.k.a.PRETTYEYEZ!!! <sxyteacha > wrote: Wow! The sleeve sounds great. I have never heardof this. Do you know if bandsters are candidates for the sleeve as well?

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Sure, most who medically qualify for banding do well with sleeves as well. As I have written before, while my band has done the job well and I'm at goal, if I had to do it over again it would be a sleeve without a doubt. It's just easier with no follow up care. Get your sleeve and go on to lose weight. The technique has improved a great deal so it's a good procedure.

Everyone has to choose what is right for them. The weight loss is the same with sleeves or banding for the most part. They really pretty well require the same commitment. While you can eat around a band you can eat around a sleeve. If you won't do well with one, you won't likely do well with the other. Both take work and lifestyle change but with the surgery it's totally possible and doable.

If you are currently banded and not having problems there is little reason to change to a sleeve. But for those with severe slips or any reason that the band needs to be removed, sleeves are trickier to do after banding but with the right surgeon it is totally doable.

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Bipley <Bipley@...> wrote: ...

Might want to check out this link:http://www.lapsf.com/weight-loss-surgeries.htmlOne would not want both surgeries, band and sleeve. It would be one or the other.

On Jan 12, 2008 7:24 PM, LISA...a.k.a.PRETTYEYEZ!!! <sxyteacha@...> wrote:

Wow! The sleeve sounds great. I have never heardof this. Do you know if bandsters are candidates for the sleeve as well?

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