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Some alternatives are mental health clinics or free clinics at universities

or colleges.Our HMO pays for my daughter's psychologist and psychiatrist and

we pay 10% of the cost of the visit.

Theresa in SC

Insurance Issues

> Our 2 1/2 year old was just diagnosed with OCD. I have him on an HMO

> and PSO plan. I can not afford the meds, and

> Psychiatrist/Psychologist even with insurance. I think we make too

> much to qualify for assistance, anyone else facing these issues?

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Theresa~

Thank you for the alternative ideas. We have just begun the process of

getting treatment for Ian. My head is still spinning from figuring out the

comprehensive benefits from the insurance companies. I hope you get some

good info. on changing meds for your daughter. I can't be of any help

since we just started Ian on Luvox a month ago.

Joy

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  • 1 year later...

I hope you have good luck with your insurance. Ours,

United Healthcare, has been great and covers just

about anything -- all we have to pay is our regular

deductible. I would have given anything for speech,

OT and early intervention for my daughter. We didn't

have any autism-specific therapies for her until she

was 10 years old. Are you getting your services

through First Steps? I think that is wonderful, but

it wasn't around when my daughter (now 15) was that

age. How things have changed over the years -- and I

hope they only get better and better.

Tamara

--- columbo1@... wrote:

> Hi,

> I just joined this group and will be taking my

> daughter to UCLA for

> formal diagnosis next week. I have also spent the

> majority of the

> afternoon being as pleasant as possible with my

> behavioral health

> provider and my medical provider to see how much of

> my appt. is

> covered. What does the future hold as far as autism

> goes in

> California if I get a diagnosis of Autism? Does

> anyone have any

> ideas how I can get the ABA or whatever treatment

> for my daughter. I

> now receive 1 hour of OT, 1 hour of Speech and 5.5

> hours of early

> intervention a week through the regional center.

>

> Any suggestions would be helpful.

>

> Thanks

>

> Judy

>

>

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Thanks for the reply. My luck has run out with the insurance

company. The medical insurance won't cover the visit because the

billing code is for a behavioral health consult. The doctor is not

an MD so she can't charge for a normal medical office consult and my

behavioral health insurance will only cover $35 since UCLA is not in

there network. I'll figure out something I guess. Anyway, I get to

use Baby Steps right now. It is a great help for my daughter. She

still has 7 months until she gets pushed into the school system at

age 3. How is your daughter doing? I think about the future and

wonder what it will hold. Are you in California?

Thanks Again for the info.

Judy

> > Hi,

> > I just joined this group and will be taking my

> > daughter to UCLA for

> > formal diagnosis next week. I have also spent the

> > majority of the

> > afternoon being as pleasant as possible with my

> > behavioral health

> > provider and my medical provider to see how much of

> > my appt. is

> > covered. What does the future hold as far as autism

> > goes in

> > California if I get a diagnosis of Autism? Does

> > anyone have any

> > ideas how I can get the ABA or whatever treatment

> > for my daughter. I

> > now receive 1 hour of OT, 1 hour of Speech and 5.5

> > hours of early

> > intervention a week through the regional center.

> >

> > Any suggestions would be helpful.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Judy

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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With early intervention your daughter's future should

be much more promising than my daughter's was. I work

in the field of developmental disabilities and have

seen a lot of progress from kids who had help from an

early age. But I am thankful that my daughter's life

is as normal as it is. She has some OCD along with

the autism, which complicates things, but she is very

smart. In fact, when we have her Individual Education

Plan next week I am going to see if she can't be

challenged a bit more. She was at home one day last

week but had her school work with her and got it all

finished in one hour! She is in the Special Ed.

program, mainly because she is the first child with

full-blown autism to go through our school system and

they just didn't know what to do with her. She has

typical teenage interests -- clothes, pop music,

makeup, etc. and when I walk into school with her she

walks a few feet ahead and acts like " Who IS this

woman and WHY is she following me? "

just like any other teenager. She speaks and her

speech is more fluent all the time. One of her

complications was that she had repeated low grade ear

infections during the time when her speech should have

been developing and that threw her way back.

Jan has a neat sense of humor and many endearing

qualities. I think that one of the compensatory gifts

that God gives to these children is a certain charm

which endears them to others. I wish both you and

your daughter much success in your fight against

autism.

Tamara

--- columbo1@... wrote:

> Thanks for the reply. My luck has run out with the

> insurance

> company. The medical insurance won't cover the visit

> because the

> billing code is for a behavioral health consult.

> The doctor is not

> an MD so she can't charge for a normal medical

> office consult and my

> behavioral health insurance will only cover $35

> since UCLA is not in

> there network. I'll figure out something I guess.

> Anyway, I get to

> use Baby Steps right now. It is a great help for my

> daughter. She

> still has 7 months until she gets pushed into the

> school system at

> age 3. How is your daughter doing? I think about

> the future and

> wonder what it will hold. Are you in California?

>

> Thanks Again for the info.

>

> Judy

>

>

> > > Hi,

> > > I just joined this group and will be taking my

> > > daughter to UCLA for

> > > formal diagnosis next week. I have also spent

> the

> > > majority of the

> > > afternoon being as pleasant as possible with my

> > > behavioral health

> > > provider and my medical provider to see how much

> of

> > > my appt. is

> > > covered. What does the future hold as far as

> autism

> > > goes in

> > > California if I get a diagnosis of Autism? Does

> > > anyone have any

> > > ideas how I can get the ABA or whatever

> treatment

> > > for my daughter. I

> > > now receive 1 hour of OT, 1 hour of Speech and

> 5.5

> > > hours of early

> > > intervention a week through the regional center.

>

> > >

> > > Any suggestions would be helpful.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > Judy

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

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, I have been meaning to thank you for the info below about

insurance. It will be an interesting summer studying for the bar and

getting ready for surgery (I didn't realize how overwhelmed I would

be because I naively thought I wouldn't have to study as much for

the bar as it now appears that I have to.)

I was/am just being a little paranoid that after my operation

August 4, I might have complications that require expensive doctor

visits in Sept/Oct which is after my insurance expires Aug. 31.

It does seem that as long as things go fairly well that I won't

have to see anyone in Sept./Oct. since my follow-up appointment

should be in Aug.

In case it is useful to anyone, I found a helpful site about

insurance http://www.dol.gov/ebsa/faqs/faq_consumer_hipaa.html.

It says that group insurance plans have to count your prior

insurance coverage towards any pre-existing condition waiting

periods as long as your gap between coverage was less than 63 days.

So, I should be fine in that respect for the group insurance I will

have when I start working.

I spoke to an insurance broker about individual coverage for

before I start working. She indicated that the companies she deals

with can either charge me more or refuse to cover me at all based on

my pre-existing conditions. Which is why I am concerned about

getting coverage for Sept./Oct.

However, I did read the following at the website I mentioned below

that implies I may qualify for some HIPAA guaranteed coverage (but I

don't know if this excludes coverage for pre-existing conditions).

" What if I am unable to obtain new group health plan coverage?

You may be able to purchase an individual insurance policy. HIPAA

guarantees access to individual policies to eligible individuals.

Eligible individuals:

Have had coverage for a least 18 months without a significant break

in coverage where the most recent period of coverage was under a

group health plan

Did not have their group coverage terminated because of fraud or

nonpayment of premiums

Are ineligible for COBRA continuation coverage or if offered COBRA

continuation coverage (or continuation coverage under a similar

state program), have both elected and exhausted their continuation

coverage "

Vicki

>

> >

> > My only slight concern is that my student insurance ends Aug 31,

> and

> > I won't have insurance through my new job until late Sept or mid

> > Oct. I have been looking into individual policies but am

worried

> > they will turn me down once they find out about my surgery. So,

> > I'll have to see.

>

> Hey Vicki - my understanding is that as long as you don't go more

> than 60 days (I think, it may actually be 61 days) without

coverage,

> they cannot turn you down based on a pre-existing condition. Even

if

> they do hit you with the pre-existing thing, it's generally a 12

> month waiting period. After your follow ups, you should be fine. I

> follow up every 2-3 years for a barium swallow and EGD.

> Make sure to ask but it's good to go in with some idea of the

> guidelines.

>

> Good luck on the exams and your surgery. Wow! What are you going

to

> do with yourself after all of these big stresses in your life are

> over?? lol

> You've got quite the summer planned.

>

> Happy Swallowing!

> - in Va.

>

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Hello Laurie,

I found myself in a very similar situation today. I am a graduate student

and I have two different insurances. One is Medicare Plan A (NOT Plan B)

and the other one doesn't cover pre-existing conditions (college student

insurance).

I am finding this frustrating. I don't know what to do either. If I apply

for Medicare Plan B then I won't be able to get coverage until June. That's

a long time to wait for a CI.

On Jan 23, 2008 11:13 PM, <ldpullins@...> wrote:

> Hello Everyone,

>

> I'm coming out of lurkdom to ask for some advice, help, or suggestions

> from

> you regarding health insurance. Has anyone on this list had to change

> insurance companies only to find out that cochlear implants are a

> pre-existing

> condition and not covered by the new policy? Or if you did change, and

> have

> benefits covered, how did you do it?

>

> My husband and I are recently self employed and our COBRA benefits run out

>

> soon. We are in the process of trying to find a new health insurance and

> it

> is mind boggling and confusing! We've always had a group policy where

> someone

> else did the work for us. I just found out today that Blue Cross/Blue

> Shield will not cover any of my expenses related to my cochlear implants

> if we get

> a policy through them because it is a pre-exisiting condition. They will

> not cover my batteries or my mapping sessions, etc. I've lived with a

> hearing

> loss for most of my life and have never run into this issue before. Or, is

>

> this something I should fight for? I'd be very interested in hearing about

>

> your expenses or getting some advice.

>

> Help!

>

> Laurie in TN

> Severe/Profound Hearing Loss since 1957

> Implanted with Freedom 8/30/05 (left ear)

> Activated 9/20/05

> Implanted with Freedom 1/30/07 (right ear)

> Activated 03/01/07

> _http://lauriescidance.blogspot.com_ (http://lauriescidance.blogspot.com/)

>

>

> **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.

> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

>

>

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In a message dated 1/24/2008 12:00:28 AM Eastern Standard Time,

ldpullins@... writes:

I'd be very interested in hearing about

your expenses or getting some advice.

Oops. I meant, " I would be very interested in hearing about your

experiences and would appreciate any help, comments, or advice. "

Thanks!

Laurie in TN

Severe/Profound Hearing Loss since 1957

Implanted with Freedom 8/30/05 (left ear)

Activated 9/20/05

Implanted with Freedom 1/30/07 (right ear)

Activated 03/01/07

_http://lauriescidance.blogspot.com_ (http://lauriescidance.blogspot.com/)

**************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.

http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

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Laurie,

I was employed by the corporate world until 2002, used COBRA till it expired in

early 2004 then switched to Anthem BCBS in CT as a self employed small business

owner. We never had problems with the switch and my son had been implanted back

in 2000. Anthem has always covered mappings and such and even covered his

bilateral surgery in 2005 and freedom upgrade in 2007. It's my understanding

that as long as you have continueous coverage (no gaps of even a few hours),

there is no such thing as a pre-existing condition. Can you contact your local

Chamber of Commerce and see who they recommend for health insurance? We got our

agent that way and he has been great working the insurance system to find out

the best carrier for us. He sort of does the job that the HR person in

corporate America did for us.

Regards,

Suzanne in CT

mom to Sam, 8yo

N24C 09/00 left

N24 double array 06/05 right

freedom both

-------------- Original message from ldpullins@...: --------------

> Hello Everyone,

>

> I'm coming out of lurkdom to ask for some advice, help, or suggestions from

> you regarding health insurance. Has anyone on this list had to change

> insurance companies only to find out that cochlear implants are a pre-existing

> condition and not covered by the new policy? Or if you did change, and have

> benefits covered, how did you do it?

>

> My husband and I are recently self employed and our COBRA benefits run out

> soon. We are in the process of trying to find a new health insurance and it

> is mind boggling and confusing! We've always had a group policy where someone

> else did the work for us. I just found out today that Blue Cross/Blue

> Shield will not cover any of my expenses related to my cochlear implants if we

> get

> a policy through them because it is a pre-exisiting condition. They will

> not cover my batteries or my mapping sessions, etc. I've lived with a hearing

> loss for most of my life and have never run into this issue before. Or, is

> this something I should fight for? I'd be very interested in hearing about

> your expenses or getting some advice.

>

> Help!

>

> Laurie in TN

> Severe/Profound Hearing Loss since 1957

> Implanted with Freedom 8/30/05 (left ear)

> Activated 9/20/05

> Implanted with Freedom 1/30/07 (right ear)

> Activated 03/01/07

> _http://lauriescidance.blogspot.com_ (http://lauriescidance.blogspot.com/)

>

>

>

>

> **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.

> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

>

>

>

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Hi Laurie,

I faced a similar problem. I am self-employed, but my

wife has always worked in companies with group plans,

so my insurance has been on those group plans. My

wife's last employer was going out of business at the

end of last year (mortgage industry meltdown) -- right

when my CI surgery was scheduled. I barely made it in

under the wire for the surgery under my HMO. Since the

company was terminating, COBRA was not an option, so

we had to apply for individual insurance to fill the gap until

my wife enters a new group plan. My initial application for

an individual HMO with Blue Shield was denied due to

my (at the time) pending CI surgery. My only option

was to get what is called a " Guaranteed Issue " plan.

These plans are required under the HIPAA act. In my

case, the GI plan was only available as a PPO and was

twice as expensive as a normal plan. But at least I am

covered, although now I pay more for mappings, etc.

My recommendation is to try to get into a group HMO

plan, since there will be no pre-existing condition limitation.

I think there are small business pools for this available.

Otherwise, look into a Guaranteed Issue plan, but be

aware that you must have continuous group or COBRA

insurance for a minimum time (18 or 24 months I believe).

If you need to do the GI plan, you will probably find it

cheaper to do an individual plan for yourself, separate

from husband and/or family. If at all possible, don't let

your insurance lapse.

Good luck, and be sure to report back what you find.

-Jeff

Insurance Issues

> Hello Everyone,

>

> I'm coming out of lurkdom to ask for some advice, help, or suggestions

> from

> you regarding health insurance. Has anyone on this list had to change

> insurance companies only to find out that cochlear implants are a

> pre-existing

> condition and not covered by the new policy? Or if you did change, and

> have

> benefits covered, how did you do it?

>

> My husband and I are recently self employed and our COBRA benefits run out

> soon. We are in the process of trying to find a new health insurance and

> it

> is mind boggling and confusing! We've always had a group policy where

> someone

> else did the work for us. I just found out today that Blue Cross/Blue

> Shield will not cover any of my expenses related to my cochlear implants

> if we get

> a policy through them because it is a pre-exisiting condition. They will

> not cover my batteries or my mapping sessions, etc. I've lived with a

> hearing

> loss for most of my life and have never run into this issue before. Or,

> is

> this something I should fight for? I'd be very interested in hearing

> about

> your expenses or getting some advice.

>

> Help!

>

> Laurie in TN

> Severe/Profound Hearing Loss since 1957

> Implanted with Freedom 8/30/05 (left ear)

> Activated 9/20/05

> Implanted with Freedom 1/30/07 (right ear)

> Activated 03/01/07

> _http://lauriescidance.blogspot.com_ (http://lauriescidance.blogspot.com/)

>

>

>

>

> **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.

> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

>

>

>

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Hi,

June is like 4 months away. that is NOT a long time to wait. YOu

need to meet with an implant team, make sure you are a candidate, and

then choose which implant you want. There are various tests that need to

be done, like CT scans and MRIs. None of these happen over night. So 4

months is not a long time to wait. Apply for the Part B NOW and get the

ball rolling.

I am finding this frustrating. I don't know what to do either. If I apply

for Medicare Plan B then I won't be able to get coverage until June.

That's

a long time to wait for a CI.

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  • 3 years later...

I agree with Sally.  We treat patients all the time who are immigrants and have had surgery elsewhere.  I've never heard of people having problems with insurance after that.  Fills and such for a band is a different story.  That's not a complication of the band, but a known follow-up procedure, and I know people with bands can have a heck of a time finding care here afterwords if their procedure was not done here. 

Danae (M.D.)

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