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What band do you have? If you have a VG band just 1/2 cc each time is CRAZY.

My first fill was 4cc in my VG band and that only gave me a small amount of

restriction as a lot of that simply filled the tube. I now have 9cc in my VG

and have good restriction. You could either request more at your fills (1cc

would be better at a time) or go to another surgeon! Sometimes being a

loser is a GOOD thing! 5'11 " 306 / 229 / 180 PreOp / Now/ Goal Banded 09/14/06

@...: ginnee25@...: Sun, 14 Oct

2007 23:33:04 +0000Subject: Fills

Hello, this is my first post. My name is Ginny. I got the lapband done at

Riverside Hospital in Columbus Ohio on May 29, 2007. This group of people...I

could brag on forever. They made the whole process comfortable and wonderful.I

lost 10 lbs before surgeryI lost 10 lbs the two weeks after surgeryI lost 1 lb

in augustI lost 1 lb in septemberI gained 3 lbs in OctoberNeedless to say, I am

a little frustrated which is why I have sought out this group. " Glad you are

here! " Support, well, I lack that but who really helps you lose weight but

yourself anyway...?Fills...this is where I am wondering what everyone else is

doing. My doctor only gives 1/2 cc fill each month. It took 4 fills for me to

finally feel slightly what everyone else has been talking about. How much fill

do you guys get??I think I only get 12 free fills with my aftercare that is

included in the program. I feel like I should have more say in how much I get. I

understand he is the doctor and only wants me to lose 1.5 lbs a week but I dont

think 2-3 lbs a week is an unrealistic goal either. " GIMMMEEE MY FILL!! " Tell me

what you do??

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Hello Ginnee,

Sunday, October 14, 2007, 5:33:04 PM, you wrote:

> Fills...this is where I am wondering what everyone else is doing. My

> doctor only gives 1/2 cc fill each month. It took 4 fills for me to

> finally feel slightly what everyone else has been talking about.

He's slower than most on fills, but each doc does his/her own thing.

> How much fill do you guys get??

Who knows? Who cares? All depends on the band and the individual.

There are only 3 fill amounts: too much, too little, and just right.

> I think I only get 12 free fills with my aftercare that is included

> in the program. I feel like I should have more say in how much I

> get. I understand he is the doctor and only wants me to lose 1.5 lbs

> a week but I dont think 2-3 lbs a week is an unrealistic goal either.

You're not the doctor and you have NO idea how much you need. Even if

this doc is slower on fills than some, stick with it.

Your goals are unrealistic. Average is 1--2 pounds a week, and losing

more than 2 a week is unhealthy. You didn't put the fat on overnight,

did you?

How much do you weigh, how tall, bmi, etc? And age? All of that

makes a big difference.

Even if you don't have good restriction yet, practice eating like a

bandster. Do so and you'll lose. And what about your exercise?

dan

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Hi Ginny. My name is . I was banded 7/24 had first fill 8/24 -

2nd fill 9/17 and am getting my third fill today 10/15

Let me say I am NOT as optimal restriction. Most of my weight loss

has been on my own (ie I stop at 1 to 1 1/2 cups of food per meal)

I lost 10 pounds prior to surgery

approx 30 pounds in first 2 weeks

and 12 pounds over the last 2 months

That sounds like awesome weight loss however, for the past 6 weeks I

have lost an average of 1 pound per week (4 pounds per month). My

weight loss has slowed considerable. And of course these are only

the losses - lots of times I GAINED. Think of it as a traditional

scale where the left side goes up as the right side goes down. The

scale with facilate until it 'evens' out. That is how I understand

the body works. The plateaus are the bodies way of 'balancing' out.

Your weight loss is awesome too! The most important thing is

patience. Be patient (I KNOW IT IS HARD - I AM WITH YOU) and follow

the band rules you were given. You trusted your surgeon to operate -

trust him to manage your fills. Talk to him about your concerns.

Also, alot of weight loss depends on starting weight too. I started

at 326 and am now 272. The larger you are the more 'initial' weight

you lose.

The number of cc's they fill - really means nothing. It is just a

number - more important is that they fill you slowly so as not to

cause complications. It takes many people 3-5 fills to get to decent

restriction.

I am shooting for 8-10 pounds per month. My surgeon recomends 1-2

pounds per week. 3 pounds per week is kinda unrealistic. Review what

you are doing - analyze what you are eating and talk to your surgeon

and dietician.

Remember losing this weight is more than just numbers.....it is

lifestyle changes and emotional/physcological evaluations. To lose

weight and keep it off - we must first understand how we put it there.

You are NOT alone. Yes you have to do the 'work' yourself...but we

are all here for you.

>

> Hello, this is my first post. My name is Ginny. I got the lapband

> done at Riverside Hospital in Columbus Ohio on May 29, 2007. This

> group of people...I could brag on forever. They made the whole

> process comfortable and wonderful.

>

> I lost 10 lbs before surgery

> I lost 10 lbs the two weeks after surgery

> I lost 1 lb in august

> I lost 1 lb in september

> I gained 3 lbs in October

>

> Needless to say, I am a little frustrated which is why I have

sought

> out this group. " Glad you are here! "

>

> Support, well, I lack that but who really helps you lose weight but

> yourself anyway...?

>

> Fills...this is where I am wondering what everyone else is doing.

My

> doctor only gives 1/2 cc fill each month. It took 4 fills for me

to

> finally feel slightly what everyone else has been talking about.

>

> How much fill do you guys get??

>

> I think I only get 12 free fills with my aftercare that is included

> in the program. I feel like I should have more say in how much I

> get. I understand he is the doctor and only wants me to lose 1.5

lbs

> a week but I dont think 2-3 lbs a week is an unrealistic goal

either.

>

> " GIMMMEEE MY FILL!! "

>

> Tell me what you do??

>

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Hello cindywebb1667,

Monday, October 15, 2007, 10:35:05 AM, you wrote:

> That sounds like awesome weight loss however, for the past 6 weeks I

> have lost an average of 1 pound per week (4 pounds per month). My

> weight loss has slowed considerable. And of course these are only

> the losses - lots of times I GAINED.

We all vary from day to day, and that's why, unless you graph it or in

some other way look at the long term, will go crazy from daily

weighing. Think of how all of us (and particularly women) change from

day to day. Water retention. I can go up 3 pounds in a day from

eating a bunch of salty food (even good salty food like beef jerky or

a veggie stirfry). And then there's constipation and its alternative.

Hey, I lost five pounds when I got a colonoscopy. Guess what, it came

back.

As to patience, most of us indeed are NOT patient. If we were, we

wouldn't have been as likely to become obese.

--

Best regards,

Dan mailto:honu@...

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> Hello, this is my first post. My name is Ginny. ...

> Support, well, I lack that but who really helps you lose weight but

> yourself anyway...

> Fills...this is where I am wondering what everyone else is doing.

My doctor only gives 1/2 cc fill each month. It took 4 fills for me

to finally feel slightly what everyone else has been talking about.

How much fill do you guys get??

> I think I only get 12 free fills with my aftercare that is included

> in the program. I feel like I should have more say in how much I

> get. I understand he is the doctor and only wants me to lose 1.5

lbs a week but I dont think 2-3 lbs a week is an unrealistic goal

either.

> " GIMMMEEE MY FILL!! "

> Tell me what you do??

****

Hello Ginny. here. Well, we can't tell you what to do. But we

can make suggestions. Being Banded is a unique journey for each of

us. It can be dificult when your Band Dr. gives limited cc's for

your fills. But, he must have a plan for his torture. LOL! As I said

before, this is a unique journey for each of us. The Band sizes are

similar but how our bodys react to them are quite different. I have

encountered Bandster who have had no fills and are doing very well

and others who have had countless fills and unfills and struggle to

get to that so called 'Sweet Spot' of a fill for great restriction.

The learning curve for each of us is different also. Changing bad

habits for good habits can be a struggle. Keeping to the Bandster

Guidelines can be a struggle. MY own example is that I have a VG

band that can hold up to 11cc's. I am at 8.2cc now and have great

restriction in the AM and moderate restriction till late afternoon.

It is in the evenings that I have to control my myself with will

power because I have the least restriction at that time. It is a

gravity thing for me. The band seems to irritate my stomach when I

move from laying down to standing in the AM and it takes most of the

day for the inflamation to go down. Stress can cause more

inflamation on the Band. Emotions also. And for you Ladys, that

Monthly cycle is and additional pain in the Band. LOL! Sorry!

Getting back to Band sizes, Do you know which Band was inplanted in

you? 9.5cm? 10cm? 11cm? The 1st two can hold up to 4.5cc of fill

but most of the Bandster get good restriction at 2.2cc -2.6cc. In

the VG band(11cm), some start to feel restiction at 5cc. Several

fellow Bandsters with the VG Band have 5.2cc, 5.7cc,7.9cc,and 8.5cc

and have varying amounts of restriction. As i said, it is a unique

journey for each of us. My suggestion to you is to follow your Band

Dr's rules of a .5cc a month. Take that time between fills to live

the Bandster guidelines, change bad habits for good habits, exercise

3-4 times a week fo 30-60 minutes, and believe in yourself. The Band

is a tool. Learn to work the Band and then learn to use the Band.

God Bless!

Dr. Spiegel

05/17/2006

367/255/245

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Ginny

//I understand he is the doctor and only wants me to lose 1.5

lbs a week but I dont think 2-3 lbs a week is an unrealistic goal

either.//

I have been losing 3lb a week for a little while now. but the only reason that

happens is because I'm the calorie Nazi and I walk 10 miles a day. Went to see

my doc today. guess what? he said to cut that crap out or I'll hurt myself (ok

those weren't exactly his words but its what he meant) Since I've lost so much

so fast, he wants me to take about 6 months to lose the next 10-20. I'm having

a really hard time dealing with that concept, the idea of going so much slower

kinda freaks me out, but I'm really don't want to hurt myself so I'm going to

comply. Apparently you just don't get to lose more than 1-2lb per week, even

then it should be 1 some weeks & 2 others (in other words 1.5lb/wk ). its just

not healthy to go any faster, you'll end up losing lean mass instead of fat and

screwing up you're organs. in the beginning, its not as much of an issue, but

even if you make it happen, don't expect to be able to do it forever.

- Ada

5'6 " Age 26

364 / 285 / 194

Consult/Band Day/Now

7.20.06/3.19.07/10.15.07

Lap Band by Dr. Greene in Rockville, MD

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Hey, Im also flying in on the 25th.But having my fill that day and leaving the 26th morning. DOB 12/6/07 229/207/?terrinabell <terrinabell@...> wrote: hello everyone,Is there anyone going for a fill on the 26th of this month. I'm flying in on the 25th and staying in san diego that night meeting ernesto on the 26th at 10 to ride to mexico get a fill and then go back to the airport and leave that same day. This will be my

2nd fill and I am very excited. Haven't lost any weight since my first fill.DOB8/20/2007257/235/145

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Ok. That info was great but most of that is known by most .Doc.A is great.We all know this but there are also other good Doctors that treat bandsters out there for fills so constant flying/traveling doesn't have to take place.From: renoalaska <renoalaska@...>Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 7:58 PM Subject: FillsI will always go back to Mexicali for fills as I found out even the doctors here that do lapbands & charge $18,000 for it do fills on patients without flouro. They only do flouro if there is a problem after they have tried to do it without a couple of times. They do a fill, see if you can swallow water & send you home. If you want it done with flouro the first time they want $400. Reno Messages in this topic (65) Reply (via web post) | Start[The entire original message is not included]

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Thank you for sharing that. I think you have made my mind up to continue on with

only seeing dr. A. Also, thank you for not being condesending or sarcastic like

few on this sight and not getting so personally intwined with your own opinions

and feelings about other's.

RE: Fills

You are right....there are other good doctors out there who will treat

bandsters. However, after going to a doctor in Atlanta at a very well-known

facility with a great reputation, I learned my lesson the hard way.  Months

later, 10-12 rounds of antibiotics later, I had to have a severly damaged,

infected port removed with a new one to be placed at a later date.  Yes, I'm

sure there are other doctors out there but WHY TAKE THE CHANCE????  No one other

than Dr. Aceves will EVER touch my band again!

 

Jenni

" LISA...a.k.a.PRETTYEYEZ!!! " <sxyteacha@...> wrote:

Ok. That info was great but most of that is known by most .Doc.A is great.We all

know this but there are also other good Doctors that treat bandsters out there

for fills so constant flying/traveling doesn't have to take place

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No attitude on my behalf sweeety. I am a young woman just struggling from losing

her very young mother recently after taking care of her and watching her

deteriorate from cancer as well as having to pull the plug and ultimately have

her die in my arms. Any one who has taken time to respond has my appreciation.

My joureney with the band was slowed down momentarily but I am back on track. I

will no longer be on this site to judge anyone nor be falsely judged. God bless.

RE: Fills

You seem to have a little " attitude " my dear.  Doubt if you'll get much more

help here with a " tude " like that.  We are all here to learn and to help others

in the way or ways we know how.  Each time a message is seen, it may be the

first time for some and a refresher for others. I thank each and every one of

the bansters for taking their precious time to respond to challenges or posting

their progress and life happenings.  We are all here to support each other. 

Hope you get my drift. Reno deserves a thank you, so I will say it for you,

" Thank you Reno for your reply! "  

" LISA...a.k.a.PRETTYEYEZ!!! " <sxyteacha@...> wrote:

Ok. That info was great but most of that is known by most .Doc.A is great.We all

know this but there are also other good Doctors that treat bandsters out there

for fills so constant flying/traveling doesn't have to take place

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Clear liquids.. broths.. think of it like the day after surgery if you want. Some people can do protein shakes.. others cant. I like those soup at hand by Campells after fills. THen do mushies after. GOOD LUCK from my experience the 2nd fill is when things start to kick in!!!!!terrinabell <terrinabell@...> wrote: Can anyone tell me what I am suppose to have after I have a fill and for how many days am I suppose to be on liquids and what kind of liquids. I go for my 2nd fill this saturday and I know I will have

more restriction than I had the first time, and I don't want to have any complications or cause my band any harm. So any advice you guys could give me would be greatly appreciated.

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First of all.... follow your DOCTOR's orders.. they usually will tell you what diet plan to follow. As a general rule, many doctors will tell you to do clear fluids for 24 hours, pureed liquids the next 24 hours and soft foods the third day. After that you can add in solid protein cut into small bites and chewed well. Again.. it's VERY important to follow YOUR doctor's plan and not rely on advice from a forum exclusively. terrinabell <terrinabell@...> wrote: Can

anyone tell me what I am suppose to have after I have a fill and for how many days am I suppose to be on liquids and what kind of liquids. I go for my 2nd fill this saturday and I know I will have more restriction than I had the first time, and I don't want to have any complications or cause my band any harm. So any advice you guys could give me would be greatly appreciated.

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It IS a little cavalier, but in reality the only thing that matters is if the

fill is too little, too much or " just right. " The actual exact # of cc doesn't

really doesn't matter at ll, unless there is something wrong, like a possible

leak. then, at that point, things need to be carefully measured.

We're all really too concerned with the # of cc, when that doesn't tell us a

single thing.

Fills are never an exact science, and if the fill people do not use a stopcock

and small syringe - and most do not - fills are mostly a guess. This is one

reason why fills are so tough to get to a good level.

Sandy r.

>

> re: Fills may not fully kick in for 2-3 weeks, so wait at least that

> long between fills. Sounds like YOU nees to keep track of amts if

> they are not. This is a good idea anyway. Sandy

>

> thanks sandy. i had been keeping track of them and will continue. it

> amazes me that they are so cavalier about it.

> thre fill was friday march 19th -- so its about 3 weeks and it will

> be some time before i can get an appointment. i am a bit disappointed

> from this experience. but i will persevere! thanks for your help as

> usual. i was glad to have done the flouro to make sure that all was well...

>

> Diane B

>

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