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Why not try iced tea? I buy the Lipton Cold Brew and have one teabag

in a tall glass of ice water & splenda every day w/ my lunch. I gave

up sodas all together and don't miss it at all! But I still need my

caffine!

>

> I am new to the group. I belong to a Body for Life community on

> LiveJournal and saw this club mentioned in a post there.

>

> I am . I am 32 years old. I am married with a six year old

> son. I am doing the Body for Life program for the fourth time. I

> have yet to complete the entire 12 weeks. This time I will.

>

> I am a Coca-Cola addict. In the second challenge I gave up Coke

> cold-turkey and lost 15 pounds in two weeks. I hope to do the same

> this time. I work for a software company that provides free soda so

> this will prove difficult. Not to mention the fact that I am

> beginning a caffeine headache ( I hate these things!).

>

> Anyway, I hope to hear your suggestions and recipes. Here's to our

> success!

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That is a thought. I love the Cold Brew tea. I have a fear of

Splenda, however. I don't trust anything with aspartame in it. I

feel like it should be safe if Bill recommends it, but it is

still not 100% natural. That frightens me.

How much sugar is too much sugar, if I decided to sweeten my tea?

> >

> > I am new to the group. I belong to a Body for Life community on

> > LiveJournal and saw this club mentioned in a post there.

> >

> > I am . I am 32 years old. I am married with a six year old

> > son. I am doing the Body for Life program for the fourth time. I

> > have yet to complete the entire 12 weeks. This time I will.

> >

> > I am a Coca-Cola addict. In the second challenge I gave up Coke

> > cold-turkey and lost 15 pounds in two weeks. I hope to do the same

> > this time. I work for a software company that provides free soda so

> > this will prove difficult. Not to mention the fact that I am

> > beginning a caffeine headache ( I hate these things!).

> >

> > Anyway, I hope to hear your suggestions and recipes. Here's to our

> > success!

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The ingred in Splenda is: Maltodextrin & sucralose. No aspartame!

We've all gone back and forth on here on the goods/bads of

sweenteners. I think IN MODERATION is the key. I only have 2pks per

day in my tea and 1tsb on my cottage cheese & fruit. I personally

stay FAR AWAY from real sugar.

> > >

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Hi Noreen!

Welcome... from a slacker who's just come back!

Don't forget... chefs can cook up healthy fare as easily as anything else...

; )

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Hello everyone!

Hello everyone

Newbie here, just started my BFL program today. I've tried it before but

wasn't in abyss-crossing mode like I am now, been doing my homework and

gearing up for this challenge for weeks. And I just watched " Supersize Me " ,

if nothing else will change me, that will, *shudder*.

I'm 27, married [to of all things a chef] (j/k, I love him) and we have a

great 8 year old son. I start college classes on Monday and I'm really

excited about that, making a couple different transformations here!

I really look forward to taking part in discussion and support here (I found

it through Skwiggs excellent website, which I've read front to back in

recent days).

Noreen

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Hi Noreen and welcome!

I can identify as my husband is an Executive Chef. We started our challenge

together but it is so difficult keeping him on track because of his occupation.

I am having to teach him portion and moderation here at home.

What a job that is.

Hello everyone!

Hello everyone

Newbie here, just started my BFL program today. I've tried it before but

wasn't in abyss-crossing mode like I am now, been doing my homework and

gearing up for this challenge for weeks. And I just watched " Supersize Me " ,

if nothing else will change me, that will, *shudder*.

I'm 27, married [to of all things a chef] (j/k, I love him) and we have a

great 8 year old son. I start college classes on Monday and I'm really

excited about that, making a couple different transformations here!

I really look forward to taking part in discussion and support here (I found

it through Skwiggs excellent website, which I've read front to back in

recent days).

Noreen

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Welcome Noreen! We're glad to have you, feel free to post anytime. I

have yet see Supersize Me...I really need to see it, I think it

would cure my Mcs addiction.

> Hello everyone

>

> Newbie here, just started my BFL program today. I've tried it

before but

> wasn't in abyss-crossing mode like I am now, been doing my

homework and

> gearing up for this challenge for weeks. And I just

watched " Supersize Me " ,

> if nothing else will change me, that will, *shudder*.

>

> I'm 27, married [to of all things a chef] (j/k, I love him) and we

have a

> great 8 year old son. I start college classes on Monday and I'm

really

> excited about that, making a couple different transformations here!

>

> I really look forward to taking part in discussion and support

here (I found

> it through Skwiggs excellent website, which I've read front to

back in

> recent days).

>

> Noreen

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I have yet see Supersize Me...I really need to see it, I think it

> would cure my Mcs addiction.

Yeah, I saw SuperSize...it did nothing but make me want to go out

and get a Big Mac and Fries. It wasn't that convincing to me. But,

everyone is different!

Good luck and have a great week!

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When Shane complains of eye pain, he says his eyes hurt and that he has

shooting pain. His eyes are also very light sensitive. He does, however,

complain of his " hair hurting " . Not quite sure what that means.

Beverly

hello everyone!

>

> Nature

>

> when your kids get the eye pain is it between the two eyes?? Kiara is

> fevering again and complaining of pain there and ive never seen this

> before with her!? thanks !

> Mom of Kiara 4

>

>

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Glad you are doing better. The humidifier should help alot. It

does at our house. We ended up buying a big whole house model.

Good luck with your workouts!

>

> Hello ladies, hope you all are doing well! Thanks again for the

> prayers and support for my nosebleeds. Since I got my sinuses

> lasered by my chiropractor for the second time, I haven't had

anymore

> nosebleeds the past few days, but a few bloody boogers (sorry,

it's

> gross, I know!) here and there, so I keep thinking I'm going to

have

> another one any day. I sure hope not, though! My sweet fiancee

> bought me a humidifier, so I hope that helps. :)

>

> Anyway, on a happier note my mom called me and told me my LL

> Reflexology and Stretch Band Workouts arrived today! I'm so

excited,

> and I can't wait to try them out this week!

>

> Have a wonderful week, everyone!!!

>

> Love and Prayers,

> Becky

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Hi Becky,

I'm glad you're feeling better!!!! I know that you'll love your new tapes,

especially the reflexology one.

Love, Liz

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Hello ladies, hope you all are doing well! Thanks again for the

prayers and support for my nosebleeds. Since I got my sinuses

lasered by my chiropractor for the second time, I haven't had anymore

nosebleeds the past few days, but a few bloody boogers (sorry, it's

gross, I know!) here and there, so I keep thinking I'm going to have

another one any day. I sure hope not, though! My sweet fiancee

bought me a humidifier, so I hope that helps. :)

Anyway, on a happier note my mom called me and told me my LL

Reflexology and Stretch Band Workouts arrived today! I'm so excited,

and I can't wait to try them out this week!

Have a wonderful week, everyone!!!

Love and Prayers,

Becky

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Welcome to the group. BFL can seem a little overwhelming at first. My

advice is to dive right in and start doing it. There's definitely a

learning curve but it's best to learn as you go instead of waiting

until you have it all perfectly sorted out. Some people get stuck in

that waiting/planning stage and never really go for it. It's better to

jump in and muddle around. :-) Expect to make some mistakes, and to

learn, and to keep going and going!

Let us know if you have any questions. Everybody is happy to help

On 6/28/05, Anji <chapeski@...> wrote:

> I'm new here and just bought the BFL book, and just am a bit ... timid

> about whether or not I can do it or not! I guess I'm just lacking

> confidence but I know this will disapear once I get " into it " ...

>

> I'll go take a look at some past messages and I will try to write

> again in a day or so once I get caught up, etc... :)

>

> Can't wait to meet everyone!

>

> angela

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Thank you !

That sounds like great advice... mistakes are something I hate

making but I suppose it's inevitable, a part of life I have to

accept, hehe...

Bye for now!

angela

> > I'm new here and just bought the BFL book, and just am a bit ...

timid

> > about whether or not I can do it or not! I guess I'm just lacking

> > confidence but I know this will disapear once I get " into it " ...

> >

> > I'll go take a look at some past messages and I will try to write

> > again in a day or so once I get caught up, etc... :)

> >

> > Can't wait to meet everyone!

> >

> > angela

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Good for you for deciding to just jump back on the wagon! There's

no sense beating yourself up for anything because you can't go back,

but you can move ahead, just like you're doing.

As far as the smoking, don't beat yourself up there, either. Like

Mark Twain said, " Quitting smoking is easy. I've done it hundreds of

times. " Just pick a date and quit again!

> Wow time passes quickly!

>

> I decided to take a break while I was away(last thursday to last

> tuesday in Nova Scotia) The break lead to binge eatting and last

> Thursday I started smoking again.

>

> Weird it's like starting all over again and I've gained some weight

> back ( to afraid to get back on the scale).

>

> I re-read the whole bFL book and I am prepared to get back on the

boat!

>

> I 'm doing that 8 week challenge if I like it or not cause i sent

my

> pic... So that leaves 6 weeks left!

>

>

>

> Well back to square one!

>

>

> K.

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In a message dated 2/19/06 6:19:19 AM Eastern Standard Time,

faith_2_heal@... writes:

> I am using

> alternative means to fight the cancer and it seems to work very well!

>

what are you using?

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Hi Faith,

Welcome! below is a brief story of my son. If you have any questions please

feel free to ask. this is a very caring and knowledgeable group of people.

Again, welcome!

Virginia Hauf, whose son was cured of inoperable brain cancer by means of an

alternative and controversial treatment that remains unavailable in the United

States. Ms. Hauf tells her courageous story in her new book, Saving My Son:

Surviving Cancer.

In 1991, Virginia’s son, Steve, is diagnosed with brain cancer. His doctors in

the U.S. cannot offer any help or hope, and they estimate that he has just three

months to live. Determined to leave no stone unturned in seeking help for her

son, Virginia eventually finds a specialist in Mexico who has successfully

treated thousands of cancer patients using modalities not recognized in the U.S.

Her friends and family worry; the American doctors warn against the alternative

methods; a single mother, she has limited financial resources. But Virginia

presses on, deciding to take Steve to Mexico.

Within six months of receiving therapy at the Mexican clinic, Steve is given

an MRI; the exam shows that his tumor is clearly shrinking. Doctors in the U.S.

are amazed: they think it’s a miracle and urge Virginia to “keep doing whatever

you’re doing for Steve.” However, some authorities are outraged; shortly

afterward, Virginia is arrested, charged with child abuse and endangerment and

mail and wire fraud. The trouble has just started, however; she loses her job,

holds a disastrous fundraiser, then learns that the doctor in Mexico has been

arrested and the clinic forced underground to evade the U.S. Food and Drug

Administration.

Virginia’s story is one of resolute hope and courage. Finding the faith that

Steve will survive, she encourages him throughout their ordeal, despite little

support from anyone around her.

I am happy to tell you that Steve is a very healthy, happy, successfull, young

man and has been cancer free for almost 14 years without having been subjected

to chemo or radiation.

by the way, I am virginia!

faith_2_heal <faith_2_heal@...> wrote:

I just joined the group and I am very happy to be one of your members.

I have cancer in the lungs which mets to my bones. I am using

alternative means to fight the cancer and it seems to work very well!

I hope to learn of many other alternative ways and to get inspired by

your stories.

Also, I am look for stories of people who have cured themselves and

are now cancer free. The stories will be posted here:

http://cancer-life.blogspot.com/

If you want to inspire other people who are fighting cancer with your

stories please email at faith_2_heal@... your story with a

picture attachment and I will gladly post it! I am asking a picture so

that people who visit the blog will know the person behind the story

and will encourage them more.

Thank you so much for this group! God Bless!

Visit http://cures for cancer.ws.

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What type of alternative treatment(s) were used in Mexico. Also, where in

Mexico can these treatments be obtained?

Thanks,

Stan &

Re: Hello Everyone!

Hi Faith,

Welcome! below is a brief story of my son. If you have any questions

please feel free to ask. this is a very caring and knowledgeable group of

people. Again, welcome!

Virginia Hauf, whose son was cured of inoperable brain cancer by means of an

alternative and controversial treatment that remains unavailable in the United

States. Ms. Hauf tells her courageous story in her new book, Saving My Son:

Surviving Cancer.

In 1991, Virginia's son, Steve, is diagnosed with brain cancer. His doctors

in the U.S. cannot offer any help or hope, and they estimate that he has just

three months to live. Determined to leave no stone unturned in seeking help for

her son, Virginia eventually finds a specialist in Mexico who has successfully

treated thousands of cancer patients using modalities not recognized in the U.S.

Her friends and family worry; the American doctors warn against the alternative

methods; a single mother, she has limited financial resources. But Virginia

presses on, deciding to take Steve to Mexico.

Within six months of receiving therapy at the Mexican clinic, Steve is given

an MRI; the exam shows that his tumor is clearly shrinking. Doctors in the U.S.

are amazed: they think it's a miracle and urge Virginia to " keep doing whatever

you're doing for Steve. " However, some authorities are outraged; shortly

afterward, Virginia is arrested, charged with child abuse and endangerment and

mail and wire fraud. The trouble has just started, however; she loses her job,

holds a disastrous fundraiser, then learns that the doctor in Mexico has been

arrested and the clinic forced underground to evade the U.S. Food and Drug

Administration.

Virginia's story is one of resolute hope and courage. Finding the faith that

Steve will survive, she encourages him throughout their ordeal, despite little

support from anyone around her.

I am happy to tell you that Steve is a very healthy, happy, successfull,

young man and has been cancer free for almost 14 years without having been

subjected to chemo or radiation.

by the way, I am virginia!

faith_2_heal <faith_2_heal@...> wrote:

I just joined the group and I am very happy to be one of your members.

I have cancer in the lungs which mets to my bones. I am using

alternative means to fight the cancer and it seems to work very well!

I hope to learn of many other alternative ways and to get inspired by

your stories.

Also, I am look for stories of people who have cured themselves and

are now cancer free. The stories will be posted here:

http://cancer-life.blogspot.com/

If you want to inspire other people who are fighting cancer with your

stories please email at faith_2_heal@... your story with a

picture attachment and I will gladly post it! I am asking a picture so

that people who visit the blog will know the person behind the story

and will encourage them more.

Thank you so much for this group! God Bless!

Visit http://cures for cancer.ws.

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In a message dated 2/20/06 9:28:03 AM Eastern Standard Time,

msfitnes01@... writes:

> Virginia Hauf, whose son was cured of inoperable brain cancer by means of

> an alternative and controversial treatment that remains unavailable in the

> United States

Hi Virginia..please tell us all about the treatment you used for your son and

where you got it...many on the list might want to go the same route.

Thanks,

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Welcome to CancerCure Faith. I am a survivor of colo-rectal cancer who was given

6 months to live. That was 4 years ago. I've been cancer free for 3 years. I'll

be happy to share my story with you, although I don't know how to get a picture

to you. I'm sure my kids must know though!

I think you'll like us here. You will definitely find a wealth of knowledge and

information here. Congratulations on taking control of your treatment. I wish

you continued success. And like everyone else here who is fighting the battle, I

will keep you in my prayers.

Blessings,

faith_2_heal <faith_2_heal@...> wrote: I just joined the group and I

am very happy to be one of your members.

I have cancer in the lungs which mets to my bones. I am using

alternative means to fight the cancer and it seems to work very well!

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Hi , The more I hear of your story, the more amazed I am with both your

son and YOU! I so admire your courage and strength, especially being a single

mom myself who has fought many battles on behalf of my kids. You are just

amazing!

Where can I get a copy of your book? I would really love to read the whole

story. You are an inspiration to both cancer patients and single parents

everywhere! Congratulations for all you have accomplished (and suffered) for

your child!

Blessings,

Hauf <jennyhauf@...> wrote: Hi Faith,

Welcome! below is a brief story of my son.

Virginia Hauf, whose son was cured of inoperable brain cancer by means of an

alternative and controversial treatment that remains unavailable in the United

States. Ms. Hauf tells her courageous story in her new book, Saving My Son:

Surviving Cancer.

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Deborah,

I have no clue what you must be dealing with, I cant imagine having to wait like that for such a life altering determination....but please hear this ....I am here if you need an ear or anything else.....God is with you honey and I know no matter what happens he will take good care of you....I do not understand why the docs can not make a decision as to what the problem is after so many months...have you gotten other opinions or are you able to due to insurance? It makes you wonder about doctors...wether they really have a clue or not sometimes....I hope you receive nothing but GREAT news and I pray for your health to improve and good things to come your way....you take good care of yourself......Liz

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Hi Deb! Welcome to the group! I am new myself, I'm Dekoker. :) Please feel to vent away! We all need to! Being sick etc all the time is VERY frustrating and depressing! I'm sooo very sorry that you may possibly have brain cancer! I prayed for you and pray that you will be fine! I wish they'd hurry up with your tests! Waiting is exasperating! Please let us know as soon as you do so we can help you! I too have ptsd from (MAY TRIGGER/BE UPSETTING!) severe childhood abuse, which I blocked out until about 10 years ago (I'm 51) and am sooo very sorry about the robbery! How horrid for you! Are you ok?! I can just imagine the stress you are under! Are you on meds for your ptsd? Not having any made mine worse when I had to go off xanax and switch to seroquel! Meds and just doing 'nothing' mental, like just physical work like housework and having quiet help my ptsd to calm down. I can tell right away if it starts to act up so

I have to stop doing what I'm doing. There are some great ptsd support groups online too, I used to belong to one but had to switch from dsl to dial up and lost the address so am just mostly e-mailing 2 gals from the group now. I hope you feel a LOT better and am sending you healing hugs! D. :) Deborah Tome <d.tome@...> wrote: I have just joined this group as I need somewhere to vent my frustrations and you sounded like a great group from what I have read. Thanks for being here! I am awaiting a decision on whether I have brain cancer (glioma) or brain cyst located in the hypothalmus. I have been waiting for about 5 months now and they are saying wait another month and a half until the next MRI. I also have PTSD, as I was robbed at gun point on December 28th. The stress from not knowing is crazy to say the

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Deborah,

Im so so very sorry to hear the news, I can not begin to imagine what you are dealing with emotionally. My heart goes out to you. I pray that only good news will come your way now and I pray you stay well...take good care of you....Liz

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Thank you for the wonderful email! It has been a difficult time, but your email made me feel much better. Sorry, I have not written anyone for a while, but I had to do a destructive restore on my computer and have had a lot of issues with my health. I finally found out yesterday that I do have a brain tumor. Luckily, against what the specialists here were saying, I decided to send my films and records to a world-renown cancer hospital. Within hours of receiving them, they called and said I had a brain tumore. I have an appointment next Monday to find out more about it. Thank you once again for your kind thoughts...they mean alot to me. Deborahitsliz31@... wrote: Deborah,

I have no clue what you must be dealing with, I cant imagine having to wait like that for such a life altering determination....but please hear this ....I am here if you need an ear or anything else.....God is with you honey and I know no matter what happens he will take good care of you....I do not understand why the docs can not make a decision as to what the problem is after so many months...have you gotten other opinions or are you able to due to insurance? It makes you wonder about doctors...wether they really have a clue or not sometimes....I hope you receive nothing but GREAT news and I pray for your health to improve and good things to come your way....you take good care of yourself......Liz

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Thank you, , for your kind words, your hugs, and your prayers. Yes, it has been very rough. Trying to sort out what is PTSD, what is concussion, and what is the brain tumor, and of course, now add depression. They have me on meds now for the PTSD and depression-Zoloft and Xanax XR. Please feel free to write to me and share your experiences, just I am heading off to the hospital for more info. and will be out of town a few days...plus I have to try to find all my income tax stuff. Seem to have put it some where and can't remember where. Oh, well!!!! Dekoker <laura.dekoker@...> wrote: Hi Deb! Welcome to the group! I am new myself, I'm Dekoker. :) Please feel to vent away! We all need to! Being sick etc all the time is VERY frustrating and depressing! I'm sooo very sorry that you may possibly have brain cancer! I prayed for you and pray that you will be fine! I wish they'd hurry up with your tests! Waiting is exasperating! Please let us know as soon as you do so we can help you! I too have ptsd from (MAY TRIGGER/BE UPSETTING!) severe childhood abuse, which I blocked out until about 10 years ago (I'm 51) and am sooo very sorry about the robbery! How horrid for you! Are you ok?! I can just imagine the stress you are under! Are you on meds for your ptsd? Not having any made mine worse when I had to go off xanax and switch to seroquel! Meds and just doing 'nothing' mental, like just physical work like housework and having quiet help my ptsd to calm down. I can tell right away if it starts to act up so I have to stop doing what

I'm doing. There are some great ptsd support groups online too, I used to belong to one but had to switch from dsl to dial up and lost the address so am just mostly e-mailing 2 gals from the group now. I hope you feel a LOT better and am sending you healing hugs! D. :) Deborah Tome <d.tome@...> wrote: I have just joined this group as I need somewhere to vent my frustrations and you sounded like a great group from what I have read. Thanks for being here! I am awaiting a decision on whether I have brain cancer (glioma) or brain cyst located in the hypothalmus. I have been waiting for about 5 months now and they are saying wait another month and a half until the next MRI. I also have PTSD, as I was robbed at gun point on December 28th. The stress from not knowing is crazy to say the least. If

anyone has had this experience and think they can relate to this, I would love to talk with you. God bless you all and hopefully, I might be able to help someone in the process. Thanks again.~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~The Being Sick CommunityMessage Archives-/messagesChat:- Scheduled Chats at /chatBookmarks:-Add a website URL you have found useful./linksPersonal Complaints or problems:-Please contact a moderator email: -owner Subscription Details:-1) Individual email - means that every email sent to the list you receive.2) Daily Digest - sends you 25 messages in one single email for you to browse. This is an excellent option if you receive alot of email.3) Web only/No mail - means that you can pop into

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I'll keep you in my prayers, if you keep me in yours. I hope they will beable to do something for you. SueDEBORAH TOME <d.tome@...> wrote: Thank you for the wonderful email! It has been a difficult time, but your email made me feel much better. Sorry, I have not written anyone for a while, but I had to do a destructive restore on my computer and have had a lot of issues with my health. I finally found out yesterday that I do have a brain tumor. Luckily, against what the specialists here were saying, I decided to send my films and records to a world-renown cancer hospital. Within hours of receiving them, they called and said I had a brain tumore. I have an appointment next Monday to find out more about it. Thank you once again for your kind thoughts...they mean alot to

me. Deborahitsliz31@... wrote: Deborah, I have no clue what you must be dealing with, I cant imagine having to wait like that for such a life altering determination....but please hear this ....I am here if you need an ear or anything else.....God is with you honey and I know no matter what happens he will take good care of you....I do not understand why the docs can not make a decision as to what the problem is after so many months...have you gotten other opinions or are you able to due to insurance? It makes you wonder about doctors...wether they really have a clue or not sometimes....I hope you receive nothing but GREAT news and I pray for your health to

improve and good things to come your way....you take good care of yourself......Liz For a REALLY HOT time check out http://www.peternoone.com and http://www.mikesmith1964.com

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